Dunno about that, condition stacking thieves aren’t a big threat, well at least when they try it against my necro, the conditions only tickle. Seeing the thief dance back and forth makes me laugh.
Guardian is my least interested class, mine is just taking up a character slot gathering dust and I might dump it and reroll an engineer or elementalist one day. I play my necro the most (pvp, dungeon, events) and my mesmer when I want to farm mats and loot in the Orr, and then there’s the thief and warrior but I hardly ever play the thief and I like the hammer and dual axe setup on warrior.
There’s nothing to discuss anymore. Like I said before the class was outright killed by the 10/7 patch. And now they’re just kicking this already cold, rotting corpse.
PvE-wise mesmer was a joke even before 10/7. Now it’s not even funny. I still see mesmers trying to PvE sometimes and it’s just sad. They spend like 30 sec on every mob. Even on my thief I kill stuff faster.
It’s pretty obvious you’re after burst damage, since the Oct 7 patch nerfed the berserker and such so that must be the reason why you retired it, does things have to die fast for you?
The Warlock was already slow to begin with (6 second delay between attacks?). With the staff I use shatters more than illusions, but I mainly use scepter/focus which works like a dream on mobs in the Orr.
Why are they not addressing issues like the portal which is getting heavily abused in pvp.
everyone reporting “cpu bottleneck” seems to be using an nvida card.
Are there any reports of people getting poor fps on an AMD card actually?
Because there was one dood claiming he uses a Q6600 and AMD card and had great performance..
Well the most common one from the complainers on this forum are using a 660, 680 and 690 and most often SLI, but there’s also ATI users having problems. I wasn’t having problems with my 560Ti until the October patches, gonna see how it pans out with today’s patch, I upgraded from 285.62 to 306.97 and almost no real improvement (but in Battlefield 3 the driver is giving me problems, I can’t play with ultra settings anymore without the game crashing).
The score I looked at last night was ridiculous, 230K to 23K and 22K? This ended real early this week. I have no reason to go into WvW this week, just gonna run around Orr and do some dungeons.
Amd cpus are the best value for your money. But you also get what you pay for.
The Phenom II X4 and X6’s are great and even some of the Athlon II X4’s are good, the FX Bulldozers are terrible although some people has gotten good results from an 8120 or 6100. The APUs are proving to be worth the price ($120 for A10 5800K as I built a microITX system with that last week, amazing piece) and the Piledriver 8350 should be much better.
The FX 4170 is mediocre, but man it overclocks to 4.8GHz without issues but the power consumption is its biggest problem (as is with the Bulldozer series).
Ummm, how is the fx line terrible?? again look at the price and the performance. And the fx line is more power efficient than the x4’s and x6’s, and are more flexible.
I am getting completely acceptable performance from my little $109 cpu
Well the Phenom II X4’s still beats the FX 4100/4170. most of the FX’s consume OVER 200 watts, the listed 125W isn’t accurate. The Piledrivers don’t even breatk 120W consumption, the A10 5800K rates at 113W under load from benchmarks.
Amd cpus are the best value for your money. But you also get what you pay for.
The Phenom II X4 and X6’s are great and even some of the Athlon II X4’s are good, the FX Bulldozers are terrible although some people has gotten good results from an 8120 or 6100. The APUs are proving to be worth the price ($120 for A10 5800K as I built a microITX system with that last week, amazing piece) and the Piledriver 8350 should be much better.
The FX 4170 is mediocre, but man it overclocks to 4.8GHz without issues but the power consumption is its biggest problem (as is with the Bulldozer series).
0/20/30/20/0 serves me well, blood is power + epidemic with scepter/dagger and staff. Pick up the well location trait (focused rituals), mostly toughness/vitality gear (soldier or earth) with condition/power in trinklets.
Curses: IV, IX
Death Magic IV, V, VIII
Blood Magic III, VIII
Lol. Yak’s numbers are too insane. Makes me question how balanced this is -.-. They seem to have wayyy more people even when the borderland is full.
I wouldn’t call it insane, it’s obvious we do have more than the other 2 servers, but we couldn’t even match Sanctum of Rall’s numbers last week- now THEIR numbers were insane.
No surprise there, I found a pack of them before yesterday’s reset and to my surprise there were actual SoR players guarding them and attempting to kill me while I try and kill the bots.
We’re right back to what happened 3 weeks ago against Darkhaven and Anvil Rock- that’s by dropping back down a tier. We seem to dominate this tier.
I asked to let up on the territory so we can get some fights, but most insist on owning all the maps, no point in sitting in WvW when there’s almost no one around to fight.
We STILL have yet to be able to have people create videos of any other class rolling into pvp (whether it be spvp or tourney play) and randomly smash their fist on the keyboard and collect kills. This can and has been done with the thief class and THAT is really where the problem lies imo.
When I get my western digital harddrive I will make video’s. I get kills just as easy on my mesmer and warrior as I do on my Thief. Necromancer is a little bit harder, but still quite easy.
Oh yes, warrior, mesmer, thief are easy but elementalist, engineer, ranger, etc. aren’t easy right? In pvp necromancer usually has a time sometimes due to broken traits a d a couple buggy utilities- despite that, necro is my favorite class to pvp with, screw the easy mode kitten. the minion master build doesn’t work jack squat, condition build works only against bunker guardians, so that leaves necro with a power/crit build.
I ran lots of sPVP/tPVP in the first 3.5 weeks and occasionally throughout september and it was mostly fun. But I can’t even bother to anymore, everytime I went into one the past couple weeks it was nothing but thieves. A couple matches I couldn’t leave the spawn zone without a thief waiting near the door to 1-3 shot me.
As for tPVP, it’s all bunkers now too, bunker guardian and elementalists.
There is no future in esport, until Anet does something.
A necro can completely negate that little move, I do it all the time especially in WvW when I see 10 boons pop up on the guardian, I yank some of those boons off him and he goes down easier. There’s also a debuff (forget the name) that drops his regen/healing by 50% (but also affects yourself too).
I’m normally pistol/pistol on my thief, but I’ve done dodge(drop caltrop on dodge trait) blossom, blossom, steal, CnD, backstab /end. But I think that warrior I killed was a nub.
if u go over every class section, u will see all of them have bugs and necro is not the most one.
u just live with it or quit . that’s it
Necro does have the MOST bugs of all classes, before a recent patch there were 140 bugs? Now it’s down to 97 bugs, I don’t think the next buggiest class even exceeds 80 bugs.
Anyways, necro is the most fun class I play, I got my mesmer to 80 before necro and now my mesmer sees more dust than playtime. But classes like guardian, ranger and thief are just way more effective in the game than necromancer is, despite that, I continue to play necro because of how fun it is.
Timing the shroud stomp/revive is a bit tricky at times, I just drop the blind well ontop of the guy i’m gonna stomp. On revive sometimes I hit spectral armor, lets me take less damage until the guy is up.
Pre/tough/cond for me, trinklets I toss in vitality, power and extra condition. Geomancy seems best for one of the weapons, and then add condition damage upon killing foes.
I was 0/0/30/30/10 for a while, experimenting with 0/20/30/20/0 right now, but in Heart of the Mists I’ve been rolling 30/20/10/0/10 with power/prec gear and condition trinklet. Spectral Grasp is good for LOL’s on pulling bunker guardians out of point holds in s/tPVP and I use it often against runners in WvWvW.
Bunkers are fine man, stop complaining. I can take them on my Thief, Necromancer and Warrior. 50% of the time I lose eventually but still, they are fine.
A condition necromancer can take out bunkers (and strip their warm cozy boons).
AFAIK players from JQ jumped to SoR for lower queues, and some from Yak’s jumped to SoR as well to be on the winning side, problem is those from JQ will end up in the same position with SoR in a few weeks if they keep winning and then they’ll probably want to go elsewhere again.
Maybe you should read a little closer to what was said about the staff :p I said it only has low damage in fast fights, overall its our highest damaging weapon but you have to build up to it.
Well staff does better direct damage, scepter does better condition damage, scepter attack #1 part 2 & 3 adds bleed & poison over and over, grasping dead sticks another bleed then feast of corruption scales on the amount of conditions the target has. Staff can still add condition but isn’t as effective as the scepter is, with the staff I can hit ~700 damage (or ~1800 crit) per autoattack and putrid mark can hit pretty hard too, I’m lucky if I can hit 350 with the scepter, but feast of corruption has hit as hard as 4500 for me a few times.
Staff and low damage don’t belong in the same sentence. Yes it is hard to hit dodgers or runners with a staff but I still do it. But the scepter/dagger is my weapon of choice.
SPVP ganking is bad enough as it is with the high burst builds and zergs
Now you will get kids sitting in spvp all day ganking ppl not doing objs
its a PVP GAME…… the problem with the game NOW is that with all the players from WoW comming here and playing with us pvpers, you guys are AVOIDING COMBAT to score “points”
Didn’t even realize there are still WoW players here, they a want dangling carrot to chase (gear progress) and MoP.
KITTEN “team play” and “POINTZ”
thats for wow children
I come from NWN UO DAoC and WARHAMMER. nothing but a pvp background. the ONLY stat that ever matters is me killing you and me not dying. any zerg scrub can dive bomb in and kill someone and die… pop quickness charge adn hundred bladez… then die after getting your kill.
you can be jerome bettis and be bad for a very long time and compile a boat load of lifetime yards and lifetime touchdowns. but everyone knows Barry sanders was the best, he had the most yards per game and most yards per run. dont be jerome.. be barry.
KDR is the only thing that matters to REAL pvp’ers
emphasis on REAL.
LOL I get it, you’re a pro with a deathmatch mentality, I wonder how you fare in objective based matches. Do you ever do clan or guild matches?
how happy u guys are with bunkers builds holding 3 players off the point and thus ruining balance , instead of whinning about thief , fix the glarring issues with tpvp , one example bunkers builds
I’ve been facing premades with 3 or more bunker guardians with water elementalists and we completely wasted our time in those match, this must be why fewer people are queuing for tPVP now.
I was in Eternal Borderlands last night trying to take one of the keeps, then I picked a waypoint to hop to and ended up stuck in the loading screen, I had to alt+F4 and load the game up again and ended up back in the zone I was in outside of WvW.
Yup I noticed some unorthodox FPS rates while in WvW last night and in one of the events, it dropped down to 11fps. The Oct 1 and Oct 7 patches lowered my fps while in WvW but remained fine in the rest of the game, but last night it was the worst.
PS- someone mentioned a couple weeks ago that the game performed better when the trading post was offline (down for maint or so), I wonder if that has something to do with it. When I attempted to open the TP las tnight, it took about 45 seconds before it finally came up.
I remember when Battlefield: Bad Company 2 came out, there was no K/D ratio on the scoreboard then DICE patched it in and it changed how players played. Still a fun game, but annoying when people ignores the objective.
So yes, as a long time pvper and FPS gamer, I say K/D changes the mentality of players in a team, K/D encourages the “every man for himself”.
On my necromancer with almost 30K health and 2300 toughness, I sometimes still get taken down by backstab in a blink of an eye- it’s extremely frustrating. Thief is the only class I’ve had trouble with.
Volrath, 100b may hit hard, but they have to stand still to cast it, you’re braindead if you’re just standing there. While thief can move around (and have a permanent 15% movement speed with signet), it’s harder to see a backstab coming because you can steal+CnD+backstab before you finish renderring to the target you’re hitting.
Congrats. you died from a very difficult combo to pull off. That is if you didn’t stop moving when the theif stealthed. Oherwise you had a big bullseye on your back that says “STAB HERE”
I find that in a thread with 130+ posts, screenshots from multiple people clearly showing the problem and their frustration to be very disheartening that ANet hasn’t made a post yet
Well there’s a thief sticky in this section, there must be a reason devs/mods stickied that.
I have both a 80 mesmer and 80 necromancer, honestly I prefer wells over null field.
With null field you have to be in range and the enemy has to be in range.
With wells (especially if you pick up placement wells trait) you can drop one on your allies and drop one on the enemies without having to run up in range like you do with null field. This lets me and my team stay back when needed.
SOR will get hit hard next week, and we will lose some players. I think we will get balanced out as a result.
There is something fishy with the queue system. Yaks should not have any queues base on the numbers I saw last night. Let’s hope that anet looks into the queue system. If its broken, it’s bad for the game.
Yaks – you fought us very well for a few weeks. I wish transfers were more difficult, but I can’t trash those who joined our community.
Well there’s a name I haven’t seen in a good while. Hello to you, good sir!
I agree with most of them, the top 4 are exactly the top 4, the outnumbered buff gives ZERO benefit to the outnumbered server, why the F would I want to go and farm karma/xp when there’s enemy players all around me while the enemy has too many NPCs and creatures to kill and caravans to protect while they control the zone? Giving a stat boost to the outnumbered team would make sense and give a chance to fight against a large mob.
As for the mesmer portal, it’s severely abused and the results isn’t even funny. On the bridge between the south and north, a mesmer can drop a portal on the bridge and run back to the group while a thief or guardian can go and pull players towards the bridge and the team would portal through and gank the chasers (not to mention stay invisiable for as long as 4-5 seconds after going through the portal due to renderring issues), this exact scenario happened a few days ago. There’s also mesmers getting into keeps with the portal without breaking down doors/walls.
The thief perma invis even while attacking is extremely annoying, and you know what, in the first 3 weeks of GW2 launch, it wasn’t a problem but a patch seemed to have introduced it.
I think it’s because players on SoR ran out of players to kill so they’re prowling to find some roamers, just like a bear prowling into a nearby town looking for food because there’s no food left in the forest/mountains.
I’ll use the EB for example, we have 166, Yaks has 60, GoM has 50. You guys can still reach 166, but you don’t chose to, leaving us outnumbering you completely. We all can have even numbers, just Yaks and GoM don’t show up.
Well I wish it worked like what you described, but when I try to get into WvW I end up in a queue and when I finally get in, we’re outnumbered.
I wouldn’t mind seeing a dev explain what the queue system is like.
I have to say all of last week was absolutely awesome and last Friday before the reset was the cherry on top.
But when Yak’s ended the week with 490K vs 95K vs 77K a few weeks ago, even Darkhaven still came out and played and we had some tremendous fights and Yak’s didn’t severely outnumber anyone. Why is this not happening this week? Because SoR has about triple the amount of players both Yak’s and GoM has and that results nobody wanting to show up.
As far as I know the queue system works like 500 player slots in the WvW zone but one server can have 350 players while another server has 84 players and the third server with 66 players and that would kick everyone else into queue. Would be nice if the queue system was even across 3 servers like 200 slots per server instead of favoring the server with the most players in the zone.
Oh and the outnumbered buff sucks hard, it’s more of a pve buff than anything to benefit the losing team in pvp.
indicates that FOTM rerolling was occurring, however the observation that Mesmer remained in second place could either be interpreted as FOTM rerolling is not as influential on stats as we thought OR Mesmer is still pretty powerful.
Mesmer is the only class that showed a big drop, thief actually went up. And in nearly every sPVP I join more than half of each side are thief, let alone rarely I land in a full 8 vs 8 match anymore, people are getting sick of thief flooding.
I still play my 80 mesmer, the berserker nerf doesn’t affect me since I often use a staff and scepter/focus, the warden is still fantastic when used right- the 1.5s delay between attacks from the warden was easily an oversight by the devs.
YES, that particular cave is a menace to my FPS as well, same goes for the NW corner of Fireheart Rise. It’s not my system in this case, I get 80+ now after the -umbra gpu tweak, even 110+ in the Orr!
PS- don’t bother with Bulldozer, wait for the FX 8350 when the price drops (it’s listed $250 atm).
