Guild Wars 2

Shadowwarrior.7159:

Thorwyn.8469:

Shadowwarrior.7159:

To me it looks like, that all symbols are counting – not only those from the guardians in the group.

You dont say.
That’s why it is that broken and everyone wants the fix.

1) Opening Post – Group of five Guardians …
2) Something constructive? Would it be enough for you to limit the stacking to only the symbols from a group? I don’t think so. In my opinion only the symbols put down by that guardian should be counting – if that would make the skill to weak for Arenanet, well there is always the possibility to change the factors…

There already enough threads about this as well as reddit topics, kinda surprised that you could miss them.

Yes it counts for every symbol on the ground and yes it shouldnt. According to the trait description it should give you only 10% more dmg, no matter how many symbols there are.

Shadowwarrior.7159:

To me it looks like, that all symbols are counting – not only those from the guardians in the group.

You dont say.
That’s why it is that broken and everyone wants the fix.

UltraTown.5683:

Here is a demonstration of how badly this bug harms the wvw environment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nAIZpVcguY&feature=youtu.be

Reminds me on the necro signet back when it was a thing.

Looks funny, but they really should fix it. Sadly it looks like they aint doing anything til next patchday. And you can only hope, that they will fix it there.

NikeEU.7690:

Even if they fix the symbol trait bug the build will be really quite viable. Perma-protection, perma-quickness, significant passive healing, good might stacking etc make it rather easy mode even still.

Funfact, I played a build like this 2- 2,5 years ago. No regret! Kappa

Back there the symbol heal + perma protection was really strong, could carry everything with 2 guards like this in fractals. Now with the quickness it’s even stronger. So even if they fix SA, for easy mode fractals and stuff, you can still run it.

Taku.6352:

Even 30 seconds is laughably short time for a boss fight. I wouldn’t min at all if most bosses got their hp increased by tenfold so we’d actually have face the mechanics and bring utility according to that instead of just IB #4,5 and move on.

Something like dis. http://youtu.be/OCDrOYF_JAM

The thing is, when they would do something like this, the rewards have to be better, otherwise noone would do it.
I’d not fight a boss for 10min at the end of a dungeon to just get 1g. Having fun is one thing, but doing it without getting rewarded another.

And now to this guard thingy. Even with SA getting fixed, 5 guard stuff will still be strong. Nearly perma quickness and the fact that you literally cant die, will let you faceroll every encounter. Not as fast as it is now, but who cares when hitting the auto attack is enough.

Are you sure, that you are not using Amplified Wrath and burn the target whose attack you blocked?

Because you dont get in combat when blocking an attack otherwise.

I’ll quote myself from the bug forum, where someone linked Gokus video.

That Symbolic Avenger is bugged is something we know for some days already, what happened there is the end of some testing.
While talking on TS about this bug, the thought came up, if there is a cap for it. So I gathered up all the SC Member who were online on that golem.
We started with two symbols mace+staff/gs and then swapped to hammer. Together with quickness we got 50k+ auto attacks on hammer.
So yeah, the result was, there is no cap for this, the more guards and symbol, the higher the dmg.
It gets a bit the feeling of the old “Ursanway” from GW1. Just spam #1 or let the auto attack run by itself and you melt down everything.
Something I want to mention as well. This trait by itself is fine, as long as there is only 1 guard. But at the point you start stacking them, it gets insane.

According to this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlU76B50hvs

You did not even disable Aldus with a Sanctuary, Im disappointed! (insert weird looking smiley aka Kappa)

Just dont allow more than one guardian and everything is fine. ( ?° ?? ?°)

Purple Miku.7032:

To be honest considering how OP damage is now since the update, it would be inappropriate for them to revert his autoattack at this point.

^ this

Even with the auto attack hitting in melee range you can cheeze down Lupi with 2+ ppl. If they would change this, Lupi would be a complete joke for groups.

Solo stuff is something different, but dont you want some kind of challange, when you do solo stuff?!

That’s not a bug.

Sanctuary is a small bubble which absorbs projectiles, dont let unfriendly ppl cross it and heals friendly ppl.
This does not mean, that you cant get killed in there. People can still hit you with ground target skills as well as melee attacks. It isnt that easy to hit in melee cause you might get knocked back, but its possible. And you can cross sanctuary with stability.

So nope, there is no bug, you just dont understand the mechanic around that skill.

AzureSky.3175:

Your inventory is full. Just in case you haven’t noticed.

It’s not his video.

That Symbolic Avenger is bugged is something we know for some days already, what happened there is the end of some testing.

While talking on TS about this bug, the thought came up, if there is a cap for it. So I gathered up all the SC Member who were online on that golem.
We started with two symbols mace+staff/gs and then swapped to hammer. Together with quickness we got 50k+ auto attacks on hammer.

So yeah, the result was, there is no cap for this, the more guards and symbol, the higher the dmg.

It gets a bit the feeling of the old “Ursanway” from GW1. Just spam #1 or let the auto attack run by itself and you melt down everything.

Something I want to mention as well. This trait by itself is fine, as long as there is only 1 guard. But at the point you start stacking them, it gets insane.

Miku kinda said everything, just to sum it up with my point of view.

If you want to have fast runs, mesmer was always better than a guard, but the mesmer himself has to skip quite some loot.
For your daily dungeon runs, the loot and rewards are the things why you do them, so why should you skip them?
So here comes the guardian. He can replace the mesmer quite well, with higher self-dps and better support to get smooth runs. And now with the quickness shout, the difference isnt that huge anymore. Ofcourse, one or two portals will save up more time, but you will miss out the aegies carrier.

As a result, you can run mesmer in dungeons, but unless you preskip stuff and use portals, guardian is better, when you want to be fast.

so you gonna approve it or not? ^^

Rising Dusk.2408:

So did you use a different tag than your normal guild tags just to make life difficult on the approvers? :P

We didnt meant to do that. ^^

But the guildname kinda reflects the issue we had.

And there we go again..

Purple Miku.7032:

Thorwyn.8469:

And for the next time, try a bit harder, you cant hit me with stuff I dont care about.

Dunno, don’t think someone who actually didn’t care would have bothered to reply.

I find it pointless but oh well. Guess this is how some people operate.

Same why ppl troll Nike on his stream all the time.

It’s always fun to see the salt from you and tom, when someone scratch on your ego. As well as you most likely start insulting right after, cause you cant come up with good arguements.

The best thing on it is, that I dont even have to do much for it, didnt even say, that you are a bad player or something like that, just that you aren’t one of the top eles. When I compare you with Abe, there is a huge different, even you should notice that.

And about your Lupi thingy, wouldnt it be bad for you, if I’d come up with better Lupi kills than you? You kinda live in Arah, I do it from time to time.

Purple Miku.7032:

Thorwyn.8469:

fracture.9754:

Miku is easily one of the best eles in GW2.

Had a good laugh on this.

And I absolutely dont get it, how you can discuss that much about this topic. Lupi is fine as he is now, it’s not that kind of a faceroll like it was before.
Solo him is still not that hard, getting a good time is something different.

You can laugh at me all you want, but can you send the video of that 11 minute pre-bugged Lupicus solo with guardian from December in 2014 so that we can all heartily laugh at something too?

Yeah sure, why not?

I’m sorry that I didnt even try to get a good time, or used a proper build, food.

I promise, next time I will spend a bit more than this 10min, to get a decent kill, so you guys can be pleased!

And for the next time, try a bit harder, you cant hit me with stuff I dont care about.

fracture.9754:

Yea, because energy sigils and traiting for vigor is fun \o/ Also, get over yourself, you’re playing a video game, one that almost nobody cares about, a game mode of it that only a handful of people care about. What’s with the kitten contests in this community?

The definition of fun might be different for each person.

@Tom
imagine that, even my first kill was faster than that

fracture.9754:

Miku is easily one of the best eles in GW2.

Had a good laugh on this.

And I absolutely dont get it, how you can discuss that much about this topic. Lupi is fine as he is now, it’s not that kind of a faceroll like it was before.
Solo him is still not that hard, getting a good time is something different.

Windsagio.1340:

Thorwyn.8469:

NikeEU.7690:

If/when higher level fractals ever get opened up ghost pepper poppers and skale venom will be much more in demand. As would Necromancer if Wither Precision ever got un-nerfed.

So where is the difference?

As a low HP class in a lvl 50 Fractal you kinda get one hitted by everything already. Even with weakness the dmg numbers are high.
In higher Fractals, stuff might kill you even with weakness on them, so where is the point of it?

And yeah, it often feels like NA is way behind the EU meta. Skale Venom was nice back then, when you could use it beside a dungeon potion or sharpening stone/oil. Now you only use it, if there is nothing else to use.

with weakness + protection that’s a lot less true “LOL EVERYTHING 1 HITS ANYWAYS” is one of those myths that needs to die.

We were talking about Skale Venom, didnt we?

With the upcoming trait-changes for example, the hammer guard might come back and with perma protection plus this passive heal and regen, you should be able to facetank kinda everything. But that’s not the point of the Skale Venom discussion.

As Abe said, you are not supposed to facetank stuff right now, at least not in the way of getting damage. And then still, you cant rely on weakness, cause of the 50% chance.

NikeEU.7690:

If/when higher level fractals ever get opened up ghost pepper poppers and skale venom will be much more in demand. As would Necromancer if Wither Precision ever got un-nerfed.

So where is the difference?

As a low HP class in a lvl 50 Fractal you kinda get one hitted by everything already. Even with weakness the dmg numbers are high.
In higher Fractals, stuff might kill you even with weakness on them, so where is the point of it?

And yeah, it often feels like NA is way behind the EU meta. Skale Venom was nice back then, when you could use it beside a dungeon potion or sharpening stone/oil. Now you only use it, if there is nothing else to use.

Does anyone besides DnT use them anyway?

I’m not starting to correct all the stuff.

But what I can tell you is, that you can keep Bane Signet for every dungeon path as well as you dont really want to have stability that often. Aegis is most of the time doing a better job cause you wont lose your scholar buff.

Then for example Arah P1 Tar, you went for “try hard” with focus → torch. You can basically do this everywhere.

Another thing is, that I dont really understand what audiance you are talking too. For kinda good people your “role” stuff might be fine, but you advice them bad utility skills.
Beginners on the other hand wont even understand the skill thingy. You should better tell them why you use Skill xy.
For example: Nokk and his Gravity Distortion. First, you can reflect this, you should mention it. Then if you have this debuff on you, when it runs out, you should bring up stability cause it will launch back your teammates and they might fall of the plattform.

I tbh dont need a “guide” like this, when I have to open another “guide” or page like gw2dungeons to look up the skills and why I use skill xy for this.

And at the end, why the hell did you even comment like that on my troll comment, that’s not how it works!

So this guide is for bad PvE PuGs?!

But still, some of the skills are just wrong and not only this, it over all isn’t that usefull.

Telling people what skills to bring is one thing, but if you dont tell them why you dont really help them.

~ The most arrogant Guard and Master of the Bane Signet

Man Abe, you said already that you didnt like your Seaweed Salad, but why didnt you like your focus as well.
Maybe do this earlier next time. :p

I like this idea, tomes were never that handy to use.

I might have to agree with the things Nike said about guardian.

The 25% critchance while hitting a burning target might look nice, but do you really need that amount of critchance after the changes? Additional, how will the new burning be? Can you keep up burning long enough?
So, whats left worth picking in this Traitline, the 10% dmg buff while under the effect of retal? With the Virtue Traitline and an opening F1, you should be able to keep retal til you place the GS Symbol, so for short fights you should be fine.
The torch trait, didnt hear the thing, that you can throw it all the time, if it is like this it might be interesting, otherwise it will be “just” for burning uptime.

Now to compare it with Honor. Like people already said. Mace CD and longer Symbols make it worth picking. Master Traits are maeh.
So, for longer fights, you might really want to have the longer symbols to keep up the 20% dmg buff.

Virtues, you sadly cant use UC and Master of Consecrations together anymore.
Supreme Justice might be interesting, according how burning will be. And for the GM slot, as long as you dont need some stability, Battle Presence is a nice joice for more group support, together with the minor trait in Honor, a bit more endurance for everyone.

At the end, we still have to wait, til we see the final changes, but guard might change from GS + S/F to GS + M/F or will it even be hammer? At least for longer fights, hammer might be really strong.
Im fine with dropping the sword for the mace, never liked the 3rd AA. Sadly scepter will be dead as well, without symbols, both weapons arent worth to pick.

Uhm, another thing I missed out. If it really will be, that you wont go for radiance, I might miss the recharge on F1. It’s not only about the blind/vuln spamm, it’s more like having a blind ready all the time, for every encounter you join, same with the burning you apply this, dont underestimate that.

dboylolz.3916:

Guardian running nomad’s?

Fractals cant be done sub 20min without nomads!

Hey guys,

just wanted to share one of our FotM 50 runs, which was quite decent.
For the fact, that we were slacking around at some point, you can easily save up some min. Exact time of this run might be something with 19:57.

Because there is no F11 in it, it’s an export from twitch -> http://www.twitch.tv/thorwyntj/b/634712411 at around 1:30:00

People including:
Rumpo.7832 – Thief
Perry.9645 – Ele
Thyend.3692 (Leks) – Ele
MasterBlaster.6827 (Tobi) – War
Me – Guard

kittening Jerem getting all the fame of my idea using the rifles on something else than the oozes ._.

Depends where you are standing. Had this sometimes on thief with the Shortbow #5. You might want to stay on the edge of the plattform afair.

24 pages already and zero kittens given, that’s how it works!

“Und täglich grüßt das Murmeltier!”

It was fine for 1 or 2 weeks, but then we are bag to the lags. Can it really be that hard to fix this? I never had any lag issues like that in another game, it’s only GW2, so what the hell are you doing wrong or different?!

And so you get your infos you’d like to have but dont know cause you already know it.

Germany
Telekom
5-10pm

Hey guys,

yeah I know, Anet kinda doesnt like suggestions and all the stuff, and not sure if there was already a topic about this. The search function kittened me up too many times to even try to use it.

It’s just about 2 kinda small things I’d like to have.
Ok, those arrows above the utility skills are nice to see when you are out of combat but on the other hand, they are kinda bad to click on it.

My idea, instead of clicking on this small arrows, why not just right clicking on the skill slot to open this skill selection so you wont missclick and activate the skill.

The next thing is, I’m pretty sure there are many people who are used to certain skills on certain slots, so if you swap in something differently you kinda have to change the order. It’s an annoying thing to do, if you only want to swap places. So why no track and drop thingy to swap the order of the utility skills? It would be really nice.

Just two small things that would make stuff much easier.

What is the excuse for all those non zerker players and stuff?

Ah yeah, “play how you want”, there we go.

I duo’d it together with a guildmate as well as I did it with three people.

If you know what to do, it is easy, so there is no reason to change it.

Oxidia.8103:

Wellcome to the internet dear.

That’s true. But what must you have done to people, that they get so mad at you?

I’d be proud if someone would be that mad at me, after I succefully trolled them. But I cant imagine that Iris did something like this.

Fix this kitten already!

Is it really necessary that you always wait some weeks/months til you fix the lag issue?!
It is so kitten annoying, every f.. day.

And so you got your infos about the stuff you know anyways:

Germany, Telekom, 7-9pm gmt +1.

f.. off

Hey,

with your new dungeon system people can kick you out and take the instance when you wanne sell it.

My question, how do you act with those guys? At the moment, I wont take the risk of being kicked and giving them a free dungeon path. But if you say, you will perma ban those people, maybe not the first time, but the second time they do that, then I’d take the risk on selling dungeons again.

skoezi.9472:

…, just play and have fun and you will see what the future brings for gw.

I’m doing this, I like the game, but it’s getting really boring.

And waiting to see what the future brings, believe me, I’m doing this for a long time but as I mentioned, 2 years. Get this on your mind, 2 years and nothing really happend for people like me.

well, Illuminati kinda brings it to the point.

I built 9 legendaries. I got >700 repeats on my hobby dungeon explorer. I like doing pve and I rly played alot.

BUT, after TWO YEARS, there is nothing, NOTHING new in part of pve endcontent. It’s getting rly boring running the same dungeons day after day.

WvW can be fun, but mostly it’s boring.

sPvP is upper crap. I rly enjoyed playing GW1 GvG, I played Top 100 til Top 20, so yeah I’d say I’m kind of a pvp player. But this GW2 “PvP” stuff, it’s just kitten.

Yes, you cant say, there’s no content, but you cant say there is, as well. It’s depending on the ppl and how they like to play the game/a game.
And for me, it should be clear. There is nothing, 2 years and nothing.
The only thing, why I’m still playing, there’s no other game that fits to my needs, but give me one and I’ll not stay for a second longer.

Well designed!

I talked to all 7 npc’s and didnt get the achievement. Isn’t it enough, that u have to do those boring storys twice?!

Well the best way to avoid this, and I guess some people already mentioned it, is to join a guild.

In my guild, we dont care that much about what ppl gonne play. Ok, mostly we run the standard stuff and we flame everyone who wanne play something different, but at least, as I said, we dont care if someone joins with an engi or ranger. Ok, depending on the dungeon. ^^

But necro, yeah, there is absolutely no reason to take a necro in a dungeon.

My Guild and I are doing aetherpath quite every day, for a very long time.
It takes us something less than 20min, so I’d say we’re not bad doing this.

At the ooze part, when you enter the room, the guard and another player (mostly a war or since we are running it with 2 ele’s, an ele) go to the right. The other three people go to the left.

On the right side, kill all elementals. On the left side the same plus kill the ooze.

Right side: If a war is running, just run through. The guard first uses his Wall of Reflection, then using Shield #5 and at the end jump behind the ooze to catch up the projectiles.

Left side: normaly you should have something which can absorp projectiles e.g. ele, thief. First use your projectile absorptions and then let the 2 guys jump behind the ooze to block the projectiles.

Sometimes the spawn can kitten you up and then it can be inconvenient. Just dont give up.

Side note: (when entering the room) the left side is faster than the right one.

Another thing for my own: I stream quite every day doing dungeons and as I said, we are doing aetherpath quite every day. At the moment I’ve got exams till next week, so I might not be streaming that much, but after that I should be online every day.

So if you’d like some different tactis or other tactis, feel free to watch it.

http://www.twitch.tv/thorwyntj/

RSLongK.8961:

Thorwyn.8469:

CM Fullrun takes about 17-20min.

The people just dont know how easy and lucrative this dungeon is.

Yeah i know, done with a good group is super fast. plusi am rolling thief with extra skips, still… man, they u can get ppl running COE, AC, and even doding troll in HotW why CM becomes so frustrating? >.<

Well, I guess most ppl tried this dungeon quite early after starting the game. Crap builds, no reflects and co. They died and died and died..
Everyone is scared of this dungeons with this old reminders and dont wanne go there again.

CM Fullrun takes about 17-20min.

The people just dont know how easy and lucrative this dungeon is.

Draugl.8079:

The Holy Eldar.3624:

They promised to move everything “LA-exclusive” to the Vigil keep which they did. There are retrainers in every major city, every starter zone, every WvW map. Shouldn’t be too hard to click enter the mists, leave the mists right?

I seriously don’t get why some people defend this like that.
Yes, it is still possible to do crafting and retraiting.
Yes, it is no big deal to go to other maps to do so, at least for most people.
But still, it is a change for the worse and a little more inconvenient for some people than it was before. So why do you defend that? Because it doesn’t affect you and therefore there is no need for it to be changed?

Well, I guess most people giving dumb comments like “you can get it on an other location bla” are casual players or just ppl, dont doing that much stuff.

If I dont need something every day or more than one time per day, I wouldn’t really care. So that might be the situation for most of the people, but not for me.

I’d like to punch those peoples face, every day when the wake up, just for posting such comments.
And yeah, I’m not talking about your comment Draugl, but thanks for your appreciation.

Morfedel.4165:

Oh, and like crafting stations, there’s one in each home city too.

Well, as I mentioned before, I dont care about the crafting station.
That’s something I dont use every day.

Dear Anet,

I really dont care, that there are no crafting stations in the Vigil Keep, but I really care, that there is no Trait Retrainer.

I change my traits every day, depending on the dungeon/fractal or WvW (ok, this one I can do on the borderlands, but I prefer to do it earlier cause of queue or something else).
I always did this in LA, cause LA is in the center of the map, perfect location. I’m fine with the location of the Vigil Keep but please, please add a god kitten Trait Retrainer.

This is my idle location, I dont wanne travel maps only to retrain my traits. Please just add this retrainer near the waypoint or somewhere in this area.
It shouldn’t be hard to accomplish that.