i will say this tho i have made 100g just from pvp becz of gaining 11 pips every game
That makes me wonder, would it be more profitable starting in a lower division during the 10 initial fight and climbing up with win streaks?
I’m so kittening done with the league, the MM is a kittening joke. Started in silver now half way through bronze, and going down.
10 matches at the beginning are not enough to evalue where you truly belong….
Ty, that means i can do it “quick” when i see i am on the losing side
Does it make a difference on the mmr score how close the match is?
Do i lose less when i lose 400:500 instead of 100:500? Or in the other case, do i win more with a bigger gap?
admins already said in here, it is a bug that will be fixed
The system is designed that everyone stucks a certain tier, their skill tier – right now it is a bit flawed, because the system needs to register all players, but i guess in around a weak it should be done and raising/falling should be even slower, because the system placed everyone in their tier – when the system works how it is intedned to do.
Shards are wothless anyway. Don’t care….
It’s still 2016 – technicaly speaking…
The first assment is always flawed, because the hardcore (and probably good) players accomulate on that day and the causal (bronce?) players come in later – therefore if you rush in on the first day, don#t be suprised if you get a not as well rating, because the average skill is higher as normaly during the season
Lets all agree that 2 man queue is the worst decision ever. Its pure gamble, and your skill doesn’t mean ANYTHING if you get complete randoms in the team who only got 500 -1000 games. What’s point of this? I don’t see any competition in that. No pre mades, no voice chat, no nothing. Where’s fun in that? You are destined to gamble every single game.
if they would have solved the stacking issue, i would disagree with you,… however…
…we talk once they solved the class stacking
First, great work, the Que is sometimes even under 10 seconds, grerat work, secondly, i won’t mind a longer que, if that would avoid class stacking!
I know that class changes can still create class stacking, but when the initial team got already multiple player with the same class, it’s a bit annyoing – specially since every game counts and there are no savepoints anymore.
P.S. it feels wrong, when i win, because of class stacking as well…
You will have some outlier matches every so often. Either you would play teams that you could easily smoke or you would play vs. better teams. Your performance in those matches will affect your MMR the most.
That last bit isn’t true though. There is no in game performance measurement (not even a smidge) so even if I do get those matches that tests me, i’m still entirely dependant on my team; whether or not that 1 player on my team is running some yoloQ glasscannon psycho build, it’ll be impossible to win when the going gets tough.
So is everyone else, the removal of groups makes it fair for all players, because all got the same disadvantage and have to deal with the same randoms.
I guess that means, this season it will be true… ‘learn to carry’ seems to be the way raising your MMR, until you end in an MMR where you can’t carry anymore, because all got roughly the same skill
Bug or just bad matchmaking?
Neither. This is how MMR works. The more accurate it gets, the less it moves.
Question, if we generally have a 60% win rate but happen to have a sheer run of bad luck in our placement matches, our mmr wouldn’t settle until we’re at a level closer to 50% win rate correct?
So if I generally lose 4 games out of 10, my mmr wont “settle” until it’s closer to 5/5?
Depends on the mmr of the othe team, but once the system got enough players around your mmr group, yes
I will wait a couple days before raging. I’ll be spending that time fixing bugs anyways.
Can’t you just say they would be features?
I’m actually getting nervous about the lack of bugs.
The bugs have gained sentience and are actively hiding from you.
…Ever see ‘Them!’? It’s gonna end up like that.
We need bug-themed skins, i beed to hide – maybe if they think i am one of them, they won’t harm me… i need my karaka helm skin!
You could have gotten it from a Halloween bag.
I got mine from it this year
I sold my halloween bags and bought one
I will wait a couple days before raging. I’ll be spending that time fixing bugs anyways.
Can’t you just say they would be features?
I’m actually getting nervous about the lack of bugs.
The bugs have gained sentience and are actively hiding from you.
…Ever see ‘Them!’? It’s gonna end up like that.
We need bug-themed skins, i beed to hide – maybe if they think i am one of them, they won’t harm me… i need my karaka helm skin!
Yes, 2 games, great sample size, specially if the system itself hasn’t compleated gathering the MMR of your opponents
The skin is as much worth, as it tortures, there is no happyness without pain, everytime i take a look at that skin, i feel rewarded because i know how much i suffered for it.
But if suddenly everyone get’s that easily – they won’t value it and i (together with those who gained it as well) would feel cheated, lose – lose situation
We play the game to be challanged, not for getting everything the easy way…
10 games are for determining your MMR, that means you had just 2 games that used the rating.
Furthermore, most other Players haven’t done the 10 rating games, therefore the possible playerbase with MMR is low, if this continues in 2-4 days, we got a problem, but right now, it’s a designflaw that can’t be solved, without magic
Oh those rerolls are my favs
- Guys can any of you reroll?
- Sure!
- Rerolls to engineer
- Cant do kitten with it dies in seconds etc….There is a reason someone qued up witha certain class, why not just make an mm without class stackin?
That’s why i reroll from my condy mesmer to my power mesmer -^_^-
I am envious to some story-line mesmers and i would love sinilar skills, and here is my wishlist;
Self transformation in an animal/multiple animals
- could be defense/offense/healing
Making the enemy think you are his friend
- either make me unattackable in PvE and switch team in PvP for a limited time – or better, make an PvE monster my pet and in PvP the enemy switches teams for a limited time (if it is a good player, he does nothing, in case of a bad, attacking it’s own team)
Evil clones! Why can i clone just myself? Cloning the enemy and watching fight themself is way more fun!
- there are even some achiefments, featuring evil clones, just copy those
Hypnosis! Maybe using a weapon like a clock for hypnosis
- great for conditions, or gaining boons, or invisibility (longer as the options we got right now)
Faking my own death
- easy in PvE, difficult in PvP, no idea how – but any option would be cool
More clones!
- do you know the pokemon move double team? (Or attack of son goku/naruto, that works the same way?) Adding 5 extra clones (total possible of 8) that don’t attack, span in random positions, i can’t attack and my attack moves become position switches with the other clones, until i click 6 and all illusions shatter and i stay at the position i choosen
Enemy-portal
A portal that pulls in enemys and spits them out whereever i placed the exit (will be a lot of fun, PvE and specially PvP) – maybe the animation not on the ground but floating in the air, like a black hole/worm hole
A heal shatterer – the clones run towards allys and heal them – but they look like me for around 10 seconds, fun in PvE, strategical ibteresting in PvP
A position switch, either with allys or with enemys depending on your target
-either with an portal opening animation or just a shatter animation
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Maybe this way;
If you duo – DC coubts for both (win or lose)
If solo or duo without the DC, only a win counts (maybe even more) and a lose doesn’t count (or not as strong)
I will wait a couple days before raging. I’ll be spending that time fixing bugs anyways.
Can’t you just say they would be features?
I’m actually getting nervous about the lack of bugs.
Everybody is either complaining or farming wintersday stuff – don’t worry, we will find some bugs! When we wash some Charr, we should get enough…. luckiy i am vine lice free
I will wait a couple days before raging. I’ll be spending that time fixing bugs anyways.
Can’t you just say they would be features?
…not sure if sarcasm?
Helseth will definitely want that rank 1 title.
And then he’ll brag about it over and over hahaha. Though I think he’d prefer “King/Queen of PvP” or “Lord of PvP”.
“Overlord of PvP”
Hmm, I suppose it would still count up games played, but ratings are not adjust on forfeits. I suppose they shouldn’t count as a placement game either.
Be carefull, it has to count for the DC – otherwise everybody DC’s when they lose during the rating match.
Also sometimes i win even with a DC on my team (rarely) it was always bad when i got no pip, when we won but had a DC… (rare case, but happens)
I don’t see the problem, i love double thief, specially on the enemy team
I am pretty confused about this. Before it was said that after Year of Ascension it would become significantly harder to get the backpiece. But instead it got easier now because you can farm an unlimited amount of pvp tickets per season now and you no longer have to cross divisions.
So instead of a minimum of 2 seasons where you need legendary+ diamond you can do it in one season just grinding along even if you have 100% loss rate.So everyone should have access to AP but not the legendary according to your logic that spans a few threads?
Short; Yes!
Long; nobody cares about a few AP, after all you get 10 AP for free every day – but have to grind hard for the real achiefments and get nearly nothing – but a skin, that skin was the reason we tortured us, dealt with that horrible pip/division system – if it is now easy to get instead of more difficult, why did i torture myself? I could have waited…
That also means for future skins, i don’t need to care, just wait and i get that all for free
New cultural skins – when you got them all, you also earn the title “Millionaire” – and all skins together should also commulate to a million.
That way nobody could complain about the price, since the title even says that in the description
In case it costs to much development time, creating all those cultural skins, make cultural gliders for gold (price of those gliders as mentioned above with the same title and gliders only usable by that race)
@OP
You can get a lot of Transmutation charges for absolutely free just pop into PvP or WvW and boom after a few reward tracks you can always change without worrying if you do that every so often, I change my look almost weekly between 4-5 characters and never have to worry about charges I think I am still around 190ish and never spent a single copper. Just play the game and you will get them also the daily log in rewards or you can always leave a chat slot free for a charge farmer crest toon clear all the easy starter cities delete character repeat
Heh… Nice trollin there BlaqueFyre!
And no they are not free. Anything that costs you time is not free. Not using gold does not equal free contrary to common misconception.
Thank you sir and I will see you in PvP with my troll mortar engineer.
Sure it is not free, but they are the only trash (shards of glory, thombs of knowledge) that’s at least usefull and i won’t mind getting more
“Jungle Faren” Outfit
“Southsun Faren” Outfit.
I second this!
Also if you log in daily you get free transmutations as well, without PvP or exploring….
This is incorrect. You have a very small chance of getting them with black lion packages, but mostly you will get merchant charges, zommoros stones.
Uhm i didn’t say anything about black lion chests at all, it’s the daily revard – you know, that stuff you get when you log in once per day…
Also if you log in daily you get free transmutations as well, without PvP or exploring….
The new system sounds promissing and as far as i understood, our MMR will raise/fall when we lost/won matches we wheren’t supposed to win/lose
Therefore will we be notified when we beat fate and won a game we wheren’t supposed to win? (No extra revard or something, just knowing we did it)
Or in a further extend, maybe even gain achiefmemts when we won games we where supposed to lose big time?
The complain about being all pve and no pvp just really isn’t true.
Play it with organized groups. It’s about dumping healing into the doorbreakers so they don’t die until the gates are down. It was easily done in the past with Tempest and Chronomancer. Once both doors are down, you don’t have to worry about anything but your lord and theirs. Whoever kills lord fastest wins.
Don’t forget spamming CC on the NPC’s after the first door, so you can kill them before they kill the doorbreakers – it’s all about PvE
Everytime i am in a team of 3 class stacked – i switch and make it 4 class stacked
Stronghold was a PvE race – who is faster? That’s it!
If stronghold would give 5 points per kill, it would be different, or if there would be one shared main lane (and the 5 points per kill) it would be a different answer…
Since skyhammer will become one of the chosen ones, any chance it will be the old fun skyhammer? Or a third so far unknown version? (Maybe with gliders) or will it be this boring, babyproof map that requires no skill moving around – may it be the idiotproof jumpers or the missing breaking floors – they had great strategic oportunities.
Pleas tell me it is an other version, pleas!
Also concerning the practice dummies, who dropped a giant boulder and killed the Thief and Warrior practice targets?
Probably the same dev that left a wall floating in the air.
That’s clearly the start of a new jumping puzzle, they just released it unfinished….
See a guardian on point, let him place his traps, make 3 clones, continuumsplit and run into the traps
As main mesmer i disagree; i don’t want to become a zerg transporter that just places portal – blink – blink – open portal – shatter for quickness – place portal – blink – blink – open portal – repeat
Just a small idea for a gold sink;
Once a player has at least one character with map compleation, every new character can buy an ‘unlock all waypoints’ system from a shady asura for an unethical high price (placing a few NPCs around him, that complain about those prices and rather walk, would give it a nice finishing, the typical phrases used when you buy black marked stuff in shady allys)
Once the player bought that extremly (!) Expensive unlock, he got all wayspoints
Or
The unlock is not as expensive – but a very clear warning says “you know, once i hack you into the system, traveling becomes way more expensive!”
Meaning that character has to pay 10 times the price of a normal teleport every single time he teleports
Either way, it should be a bad deal, only the lazyest of us would do – or those with way to much gold
Play ranked like rest of us who are fed up with it
This guy here gives a solid advice, you should listen to him!
Or make them account bound and introduce a npc that trades them for karma, that way pvp players get a nice acces to karma
Would be nice if they make them worth. However you still can sell them at least. But what about Tomes of Knowledge? They keep stacking and wasting space in my bank, there is nothing we can use them for. I have 2k of them
Make a new character, level it up to 60, solve the personal story, get 3 black lion chest keys, repeat each weak and delte that character afterwards…
Maybe transform 100 shards of glory into one tome of knowledge!
I am sure soon there will be the next wings and thetefore motivation
