It was a popular feature, so I’m pretty sure they will.
How do you know what changes were planned, or what they wanted to do before people complained.
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The developers themselves post in their own forums on a semi-regular basis, often discussing player feedback. These changes make it into the game. They have a PTR where they encourage players to play and post their two cents about what’s being done right and what could be improved before the final version of the patch rolls out. And they love to brag that they listen to what their playerbase is saying, even if they are slowpokes in reality.
And, again, are we really arguing this? It’s common sense. If the community responds negatively to a feature en masse, it becomes something the developers have to deal with in order to retain active players.
Common. Sense.
Common sense is uncommon. Of COURSE devs are going to brag they listen to their fans. Why wouldn’t they? The problem is, you still don’t know how much stuff would have been done anyway. So of a company says, we listen to our fans because their fans said something they had in mind, why would they say otherwise.
Common sense includes not believing everything a company says. I don’t believe everything Anet says. Companies use spin. You should check out a television program called The Gruen Transfer and the sequel series Gruen Planet. It’s all about how companies use spin and PR to make themselves look awesome. They’re all businesses. They’re all out to sell copies of their game. They’re going to try to present themselves in the best light possible.
Note, Anet is a small company and pretty bad at this. lol
Aside from that, saying if no one complained things wouldn’t change is unprovable, since there was never a time when no one complained. You’re assuming Anet is happy with the state of balance. I don’t think they are.
That’s ridiculous. I don’t need to prove it, it’s common sense. If nobody ever brought up an issue, the development team would focus on churning out content to retain players instead of wasting time and effort (and money) reworking mechanics.
So yes, talking about what is less than stellar is absolutely essential. Look at Blizzard’s Diablo 3. They move at a snail’s pace, but over the course of a year they have improved the game, and nearly every change was brought about by the rabid forum community.
You don’t know what brought about changes. You see cause and effect. People complain, a change is made. You see one causing the other.
How do you know what changes were planned, or what they wanted to do before people complained.
The LFG tool in Guild Wars 2 is a perfect example. Do you really think Anet is working on an LFG tool because people complained? You don’t think it was already on their list of things to do? I’m pretty sure it was because they did talk about it back in the old days. They hadn’t gotten to it.
It’s easy to see cause and effect, but without being privy to inside discussions no one really knows.
I’m not 100% sure, but I think the price of the mystic kit is probably cheaper than the master over the long haul. yes, you need 3 forge stones, but then the kit has 250 uses.
Maybe Sylvari haven’t been around long enough to really have cultural weapons of their own, so they are borrowing from the closest race to them geographically.
Good deal…glad it worked out for you!
Lol at people with the idea that “if its doable with all classes its fine”.
@Katai.6240 Yes its doable but if people know he have a mesmer then give the group a reason as to why they would take a necro over a mesmer?
All classes must have something uniqe thats wanted in groups no matter settings tpvp / wvw / pve / dungeons etc, right now this isnt even close to how it works.
Lets say his guild is being all awesome and is fine with any class, all are happy except while playing his necro he still knows he could have helped the group better by swapping to his mesmer.
See, I take people in my group who I enjoy playing with. It’s much rather have fun in a dungeon and enjoy myself, then get it done quicker. In fact, if I’m enjoying myself, getting it done quicker is no longer an advantage.
And I’ve found that people playing what they enjoy playing actually makes them happier, which means in a better mood, which means more fun in the run.
Speed isn’t everything. In some cases at least there should be other considerations.
tldr; What’s reasonable to you when you’re having fun, is completely different than what’s reasonable to you when you feel betrayed or let down.
Sounds like we agree!
More or less. I just think the group that is really disenfranchised is probably smaller as a percentage of the playerbase than most people think.
The biggest problem in gw2 right now are whiners that are never happy and will always complain in the forums.
Complaining is what gets you better content than Lost Shores. Is this a serious post? Do you lay down at work when your boss is berating you mercilessly for something that wasn’t your fault and just accept it as the will of the world?
I really don’t understand the mentality of some of the people on this forum.
As said in other threads, it’s not really complaining that’s the problem. It’s the exaageration, the hyperbole, the negativity, and the stuff said in such a way that makes everything seem like the end of the world.
Saying “this game is dying” is not constructive, not provable, and not helping anyone. Saying that most MMORPGs launch with LFG tools is simply incorrect. It’s one thing to say this game needs an LFG tool, it’s another to imply this is the only game in the world that launched without one.
You can dislike the hyperbole, i learn to take it as a display of passion or emotion rather than an annoyance. It could also be said that some “fanboys” (NOT REFERRING TO YOU) need to stop getting in the way of constructive criticism, but that goes both ways.
I didn’t peg you, i just simply said that i don’t understand the mentality that seems to want nothing else but to invalidate the claims raised against the game regardless of how they are phrased.
A, however, agree with you that it’s all in the delivery, but im not perfect enough to deny that i haven’t used hyperbole when i felt irate about something. As always, there’s two sides to this problem that is about an equal balance.
If those “whiners and complainers” didn’t feel like they were being tuned out simply because their negative views didn’t coincide with what the fanboys thought, i’d wager that we’d see a lot less passionate quarreling around here and vice versa, stonewalling against “the whiners.”
I refuse to break this down into Philosophy 101, ill just say that i apologize if you perceived that there was any personal animosity directed at you in my post.
No need to apologize, mate. I’ve never had much problem with any of your posts. I just think complaints would actually be more effective if they were factual and maybe less emotional.
I see things wrong with this game all the time. I send in bug reports. If I see something I don’t like (rng for new skins and dyes, too much rng for precursors, the whole F&F story thing), I’ll certainliy say I don’t like it. But I won’t try to make this stuff out to be worse than it is either, that’s all.
I think that constructive criticism not only should be allowed, but is vital to the creative process. The problem is, so much constructive criticism is lost in how it’s delivered.
I salvage with the mystic salvage kit. If there has been a nerf, it’s a really small 1. I average over the long haul just under an ecto per rare salvaged.
Maybe if I salvage 20 rares, I get 18 or 19 ecots…maybe even 17. I haven’t noticed a huge difference. Of course, that has nothing to do with the master salvage kit.
I think that a small percentage of people view Anet negatively. Far more people probably view Blizzard negatively than Anet for example. As a company gets bigger, they often become a target for people.
It’s true some people, perhaps a great number, feel disenfranchised because they didn’t get the game they thought they were getting. There are a couple of people who feel they’re not listening to the community, however, I feel that many of these people, if not most, are the same people in the first group. You see, you feel disenfranchised, you complain, and then you feel not listened to. So it’s like both point 1 and point 2 of the above post seem to cover the same people.
As for slow with bug fixes, they’re probably not much slower than any other new MMO, and again, most of the people complaining are probably the people who feel disenfranchised. Do you see where this is going? lol
A few people are really angry at Anet for not getting the game they thought they were buying and that anger spills out into other areas. If you’re happy with the game, you’re more likely to accept bugs, much like the Skyrim players mostly were. If you’re not happy with the game, then the bugs are just another nail in the coffin.
I wasn’t surprised at all by what I got with this game, with the possibile exception of ascended gear, though I realized before it came out that there was too much of a gap between exotics and legendaries.
Because I don’t feel betrayed, I can look at the other things the company is doing, and be realistic about how long it takes to get that stuff done. Blizzard has a whole lot more money than Anet and they don’t necessarily fix bugs or balance things faster.
tldr; What’s reasonable to you when you’re having fun, is completely different than what’s reasonable to you when you feel betrayed or let down.
SOME complaint threads talk about stuff that’s relevant to the game. Not all of them. Constructive and civils posts are quite different from whining posts. I mean if someone posted a thread that said Guardians need a buff, that wouldn’t particularly be relevant to the game, but it would still be a complaint thread.
What about if someone mentioned that the game needs a LFG tool, for example?
Then it’s a valid request. However saying that every game launches with one, and that it’s amazing that a game doesn’t have one is simply incorrect, since most MMO don’t launch with LFG tools. Very few of them actually do.
See I don’t mind when people honestly ask for something. I mind when they make stuff up to try to sell their point.
As much as I appreciate the stab, I’d suggest you go re-read what I said about MMO’s and launching with LFG tools. Just to refresh your memory…
Back on topic, though…
So what you are saying is, if someone (lets say, you) makes a post about the lack of a LFG tool in game (because, lets say you were trolled on gw2lfg) then that’s considered a valid request?
Whereas, if someone else (lets say anyone not on your friends list, for example) makes a post asking why there still isn’t a LFG in the game after x months, its just another complaint from some random idiot who obviously has no clue what he/she is talking about as it is obviously not relevant to the game?
Nope, let’s try this again, carefully this time.
Saying there’s no looking for group tool in the game and I like one is fair game. Saying that most MMOs launch with a lfg tool is simply a lie. It’s untrue.
I’m not saying you said it…it doesn’t mean it hasn’t been said, and every time it is, I reply with a list of games that didn’t have an LFG tool at launch.
You can complain about stuff in a constructive way without making stuff up (you being the plural you, not you specifically).
Anyway, I made my post as much to talk about the LFG tool as I did to show the people who thought they were trolling me that it doesn’t matter at all.
Nice! Glad it worked out for you!
PEOPLE! i made this as a positive post. You guys really don’t need to fill this with your whining. I wonder, if you are so against everything that’s being released why play? That’s all i read on the forums nowadays “omg temporary content. they need 2 b fixing OP clases that liek 1shot u and never die QQ”
You’re right. I can only have 1 of 2 views on the game. Either Everything is perfect & Anet can do no wrong, or I Hate it with a seething passion & wish for Anet to go out of business.. yup, sorry about that, I forgot I had to stick with 1 of the 2.
no, the truth is I like the game a lot, I’ve been super supportive of it, but there are some major things that are starting to grind on me now. The whole “we’re not working on an expansion even though we said we were before launch” & “you’re gonna get an expansion worth of content!” to “we’re gonna revamp the dungeons to make them not bland” “we’re gonna add guild halls after launch” “all new rewards are very grindy”.. I dunno… I’m starting to get this picture now that they find it good policy to way over-hype. They didn’t do this before.
the F&F stuff didn’t really help the “living world” It would have been more of a “living world” if they made the Dragon Bosses actually start walking around & have interesting mechanics & fights. Make them move around the whole zone & stop being so predictable & simplistic.
I dunno.. I’m a bit confused how 300 people are required to do what they’ve done in the past 4 months. If they created the game at the same rate, it would have taken 15 years. I dunno.. I’m usually REALLY positive about the game, but F&F has really left a bad bad taste in my mouth. SAB was amazing, but it honestly was a whole different game. why was THAT so good & the F&F stuff so bleh.
Because it’s harder to fix stuff that’s not working than it is to program it in the first place. That’s where all the time is going.
You know this game launched with lots fo bugs. Lots of bugs have been fixed, and it STILL has lots of bugs. Apparently the culling issue was much worse than anyone thought it would be. People were tied up in that problem for months, trying to get it to work.
I’m not saying you should be 100 positive or 100% negative, but be realistic. I’ve yet to see ANY MMORPG launch with the amount of content this game launched with. Whether you like the updates or not, there has been more content since launch, including the fractals. The Halloween and Christmas things, not everyone’s cup of tea, were well received by many.
The living story thing is underwhelming I agree completely. I also think it’s a slow start for some very cool stuff they plan to do. And I really like stuff like the Guild missions, even if the bounties are hit and miss. My guild has succeeded most of the times. We just unlocked guild rushes, which we’re going to do this week. My wife did one with another guild and said it was great fun.
I liked SAB. A lot of people didn’t, but a lot of people did too. There’s plenty of content here…but it’s never enough. There hasn’t been enough time yet for people to do what needs to be done.
And new programmers and artist are being hired, but they still have to be trained. Throwing more bodies at stuff doesn’t necessarily make it faster.
I think its pretty obvious that GW2 was rushed out the door unfinished just like 99% of MMORPGs. I’m sure they thought they would get the resources needed to add the lacking features to spvp rather quickly but they never materialized due to the popularity of PVE and especially WvWvW.
It’s obvious by where they target for sales.
-Introduce PvE content
-Introduce grind or new currency
-Introduce RNG gamble for skins in the cash shop
-Introduce new gear skins in the cash shop, only available in the cash shop, for limited amount of time.When the money is this good by targeting the casual / fanboy PvE demographic that floods them with cash over quaggan backpacks, what incentive do you have as a company to actually do anything else but?
If they can generate more than enough revenue doing this type of stuff, especially when not enough people are putting their foot down, why would they fix class imbalances? Why would they make the combat deeper? Why would they expand skill options or improve the trait system?
Why will they? Because they’re artists. They really do want to make a good game. They simply are doing it on their schedule, not anyone elses.
There are a lot of things that are being done now that would normally be done prelaunch. They ran out of time, as most MMOs seem to. They never said they wouldn’t be balancing the professions. They had other things they worked on too. Stuff like the culling in WvW which appearently was a larger problem than they thought it would be.
Now they’re moving onto other things.
I’ve never been to a game forum for any MMORPG that didn’t have complaints about balance. Not one. Not ever. And eventually devs do get around to balancing things. It’s not fast, and it’s not easy, but they do. Slowly over time.
Other people on this forum have talked about balance issues that lasted in WoW for years until they were fixed and that’s a much bigger company with a pay to play game.
It’ll happen..but not on our schedule.
Need for longer-term more progressive types of content, other than something like the personal story (and no not another dungeon).
SOME complaint threads talk about stuff that’s relevant to the game. Not all of them. Constructive and civils posts are quite different from whining posts. I mean if someone posted a thread that said Guardians need a buff, that wouldn’t particularly be relevant to the game, but it would still be a complaint thread.
What about if someone mentioned that the game needs a LFG tool, for example?
Then it’s a valid request. However saying that every game launches with one, and that it’s amazing that a game doesn’t have one is simply incorrect, since most MMO don’t launch with LFG tools. Very few of them actually do.
See I don’t mind when people honestly ask for something. I mind when they make stuff up to try to sell their point.
We have necros in my guild and I run dungeons and fractals with them all the time. One necro in my guild has the dungeon master title. Find a guild of people who’ll let you play the way you want, and ditch the guys that are trying to stop you.
Randomness doesn’t favor. It’s not predictable and actual outcome vs odds are only true with very large sampling numbers. I’m sure for instance the percentage of fused skins vs the number of BLTC Keys uses since the skins introductions are very, very close to the designed percentage. Of course that is little consolation if you bought 200 keys and still didn’t get any.
Same thing is true of legendary precursors. First, it’s legendary or ultra rare as a better description. If EVERYBODY gets one, then it’s no longer special. Sorry everyone can’t have a +5 Holy Avenger. We are all not special snowflakes even though are personal stories say we are.
Sorry I failed to get the point you are trying to make. Has the OP asked that a precursor be handed to him? Cause I thought the point was that RNG is no true measure of dedication or player skill, exactly the two things that should be associated with a “legendary” grade item.
I actually agree with you. (shudder). I think Legendaries should have a whole lot less RNG to them.
Not when there are members of the Anet defence force around, that’s for sure.
Do you think name calling and making fun of other people’s opinions simply because they don’t disagree with you is “constructive feedback?”
I’ve never called anyone any names other than a fanboy from time to time but if the shoe fits wear it as they say.
As you’ve pointed out, you don’t have to actually call someone names to be offensive, or to attack them.
Are you talking about how you twist people’s words around and try to belittle them when they don’t agree with you or are you talking about how you have talked to clay?
And this is something Clay doesn’t do. He’s never offensive to anyone? Honestly, the tint of your prejudice is showing. You agree with him, so his choice of language is fine, but you disagree with me so my choice of language is bad. He admitted publicly that he enjoy’s trolling me. Your personal attacks simply highlight your bias.
Not when there are members of the Anet defence force around, that’s for sure.
Do you think name calling and making fun of other people’s opinions simply because they don’t disagree with you is “constructive feedback?”
I’ve never called anyone any names other than a fanboy from time to time but if the shoe fits wear it as they say.
As you’ve pointed out, you don’t have to actually call someone names to be offensive, or to attack them.
Oh gawd not another one of these threads again… I didnt read OP or any of it, but let me guess:
“mmo’s take time to be good”
“if you dont like the game stop playing”At leaste complaint threads talk about something relevant to the game which make the forums worth reading. Unlike complaints about complainers threads that dont discuss the game, or ad anything to the dicussion other than useless complaints aimed at people. These threads are garbage and should be locked instantly.
SOME complaint threads talk about stuff that’s relevant to the game. Not all of them. Constructive and civils posts are quite different from whining posts. I mean if someone posted a thread that said Guardians need a buff, that wouldn’t particularly be relevant to the game, but it would still be a complaint thread.
One guy made a complaint thread that said he wants full on gear progression in this game. I’m not sure how that’s relevant.
It’s only relevant if you approve of or agree with it.
Nope. It’s only relevant if it’s not completely misguided. If someone complains this game doesn’t have enough prancing ponies, not really relevant to the game. Some people want to turn this game into a full on gear grind, and that’s simply not going to happen. That’s a different game.
They may think it’s relevant but it’s not.
This is an awesome post. +1 OP.
Oh gawd not another one of these threads again… I didnt read OP or any of it, but let me guess:
“mmo’s take time to be good”
“if you dont like the game stop playing”At leaste complaint threads talk about something relevant to the game which make the forums worth reading. Unlike complaints about complainers threads that dont discuss the game, or ad anything to the dicussion other than useless complaints aimed at people. These threads are garbage and should be locked instantly.
SOME complaint threads talk about stuff that’s relevant to the game. Not all of them. Constructive and civils posts are quite different from whining posts. I mean if someone posted a thread that said Guardians need a buff, that wouldn’t particularly be relevant to the game, but it would still be a complaint thread.
One guy made a complaint thread that said he wants full on gear progression in this game. I’m not sure how that’s relevant.
Re-read. I never said it was forum members that annoyed you. But thanks for displaying your absolute mastery of turning a conversation away from the actual point.
Edit: In case you need help…I think, you and the rest of Vayne’s world are just a little bit annoyed because you never wanted to admit that a “proper” LFG tool is a more important addition to this game than, lets say HKO style, 8-Bit, limited duration ‘content’…
And I’ve said all along that a proper LFG tool should be in the game and they’re working on it. I never said it shouldn’t be in the game. Maybe you should actually listen to what’s being said, instead of making it up.
I’m saying lots of games have launched without an LFG tool and then those tools were put in. We know Anet is working on one and when it’s done they’ll put it in. I’m not sure how you can manage to say that I don’t think there should be one in the game. I’m simply saying that repeating in threads over and over that one doesn’t exist isn’t going to get it in the game faster. And particularly I object to people saying things like, in this day and age every game should/must have….when that hasn’t been the case at all.
Misrepresent me all you want, it won’t change what I’ve said.
A receipt is the first thought. He should have registered an email address that was his as well. But if he doesn’t have the access code and he doesn’t have a receipt, those are the two proofs you’d normally need to get access to a game that you’ve purchased.
I’d open another ticket and take it higher.
Whats it like trolling a forum of a game you no longer like/play?
Anyone who purchased the game is allowed on the forums, at any time, for the lifetime of the game, or, until such time as Arenanet sees fit to change it.
You, and the rest of the Arenanet defence force may not like this, or the opinions of the people who lost their blinders… but no amount of crying, name-calling or condescension will change this. (Edit: yeah, I know, it works both ways…)I think, you and the rest of Vayne’s world are just a little bit annoyed because you never wanted to admit that a “proper” LFG tool is a more important addition to this game than, lets say HKO style, 8-Bit, limited duration ‘content’…
Let’s see. So we like the game and so we have blinders on, but you don’t like the game and so you’re a visionary. I get that. I have another theory however.
We like the game, so we’re having fun. You don’t like the game, and because you don’t like it, you need to feel superior so you put everyone down who does like it.
I don’t have blinders on. The game has faults. But the faults don’t affect my enjoyment of the game. If they affect yours, I feel for you. But the tendency of the haters to continually put down people, call them blind, fan bois, say they have blinders on is just another way of trying to sound superior.
It doesn’t really work.
Yup, annoyed. I can tell.
And no, lol, this theory of yours… just no :-)
I can’t actually think of anyone on this forum that annoys me. I can really only be annoyed by friends and family. Those who disagree with me tend not to annoy me because everything they say is circumspect, including all insults.
We have it down to the point where we almost never have any deaths doing it the way I outlined.
It’s not broken, that’s the mechanic. It’s doable.
Admittedly I never tried it the other way, which also might be doable.
Is it a great mechanic? I don’t think so. But you shouldn’t be dying, or at least you should have little chance of dying at that point.
Now the difference is, I don’t pug. I run with a guild and we’re all communicating on mumble. So maybe that makes the coordination much easier.
But I’m not thinking that content that requires some coordination is necessarily bad. Like I said, usually in two passes, two bomb drops, we have the door down without anyone dying. The whole thing takes two minutes or so.
I didn’t see it as that big a deal.
If you make a raid where the gear you get from it can only be worn or seen in the raid, most people wouldn’t raid. While a lot of people did raid for challenge, just as many, or more, raided for reward.
Whats it like trolling a forum of a game you no longer like/play?
Anyone who purchased the game is allowed on the forums, at any time, for the lifetime of the game, or, until such time as Arenanet sees fit to change it.
You, and the rest of the Arenanet defence force may not like this, or the opinions of the people who lost their blinders… but no amount of crying, name-calling or condescension will change this. (Edit: yeah, I know, it works both ways…)I think, you and the rest of Vayne’s world are just a little bit annoyed because you never wanted to admit that a “proper” LFG tool is a more important addition to this game than, lets say HKO style, 8-Bit, limited duration ‘content’…
Let’s see. So we like the game and so we have blinders on, but you don’t like the game and so you’re a visionary. I get that. I have another theory however.
We like the game, so we’re having fun. You don’t like the game, and because you don’t like it, you need to feel superior so you put everyone down who does like it.
I don’t have blinders on. The game has faults. But the faults don’t affect my enjoyment of the game. If they affect yours, I feel for you. But the tendency of the haters to continually put down people, call them blind, fan bois, say they have blinders on is just another way of trying to sound superior.
It doesn’t really work.
It’s not as hard as it sounds…though you might die a couple of times when practicing it. This is how we do it.
The bombs always spawn in exactly the same place. We all know which bomb we’re going for. We run through, and place our bombs by the door, wait till they blow and run all the way back. Wait for the bombs to respawn. It can’t hurt to have either a mesmer portal or some sort of invisibility on the way as well, but you can do it without it.
Remember you only have to stand there long enough for the bombs to blow and some damage to be done on the door, then you hightail it out of there far enough to break aggro.
The second part, the boss room is much easier. Once you get by the bomb part, just stand outside the door in the corner. The boss never comes outside the room. Well he gets to the edge and dives under the ground and disappears.
Have one guy run into the room and pull with range a group of guys, then duck around the edge of the door, so you’re LOSing the guys in the room. A handful of dredge run out on top of you, and you AOE them down, or kill them any way you want. It’s not hard.
Repeat until they’re all dead and the bar on the right of the screen is full. Then you go and take out the boss. If you leave one vet alive with him they don’t respawn.
Hope this helps.
I am going to wait until I see Vayne’s plaque of approval.
Have you noticed I haven’t approved Flame and Frost? Just curious.
You lost 90% of this forum with the words we need gear progression. That’s all I’ll say on the subject. Good luck, mate. The kittenstorm approaches.
The problem is the game is waning, and the players on the forums don’t represent the players in the game. Who do feel like there’s nothing to do, for a guild, and there isn’t.
Well, if there’s nothing to do for a guild, what is my guild doing? We must have made a mistake.
Aside from WvW, which is obviously something some guilds do, there are different reasons why people join guilds. Some guilds run events. Together. For fun.
Oh, I get it. You mean Anet hasn’t spoon fed you something to do with a guild, and your guild leaders lack the imagination to find stuff to do. I understand. My advice is find a better guild.
People play games for different reasons. They join guilds for different reasons. The kind of stuff you’re looking for, probably something like raids, is not here, so there’s nothing for “you” to do.
My guild has at least 2 events a week plus a couple of guild missions a week. We find stuff to do, because we enjoy the game. It really is that simple. We do fun stuff. We show each other cool stuff we’ve discovered. We do jumping puzzles together as a guild. Those better at dungeons help some of those who aren’t as good through dungeons. Not everyone has their dungeon master title yet. We run around in WvW. Sometimes was SPvP. We’ve even gone and played Keg Brawl together and had a blast.
There’s a ton of stuff to do here for certain types of players and not a ton of stuff to do here for other types.
And most new MMOs don’t have enough stuff to do the first year or two that they’re out. People played SWToR and said there was no end game. People played Rift and said there wasn’t enough content. People played TSW and said there wasn’t enough content. People play Guild Wars 2 and they say there’s not enough content.
And they’re all right. There’s not enough content….because no one can produce content faster than people can play through it. The only way to do it is to make it either unreasonably hard, or time gate is, the way that WoW used to (and may still for all I know) have raid lockouts, so you could only a attempt and finish a raid once per week. Then you get together or your two or three raid nights with your guild, and you bang your head against the wall and if you happened to finish that raid, only one of the guys maybe got the piece of gear he needed, so he had to do it again next week…to maybe get the piece of gear he needed. Is that the kind of stuff you’re talking about?
While I usually defend Anet and Guild Wars 2, and while I’ve had a precursor drop for me, I agree that precusors are too hard to get. I think there needs to be a way other than RNG to get them.
That said, if I never had a precusor or a legendary, this game wouldn’t be ruined for me. That’s because I personally don’t play for loot. It’s just not my game.
Those who focus mostly or solely on loot and progression are the people who like this game the least. Those who like loot and progression but don’t focus on it tend to like this game more.
I play this game like Guild Wars 1 or Skyrim. Eventually I had everything there was to have in Guild Wars 1. Every skill, every item I wanted. Maybe a rare mini or a rare EL tonic was out of my range, but that was it. I’d done all the content. But I still enjoyed the game. I liked the world. I liked to explore. I enjoyed it.
I never farmed in Guild Wars 1 and I never farmed here. I play games like Skyrim and Dragon Age. I never worried about loot or progression in those games either. I like being out on the world and discovering stuff. Getting the occasional achievement. Help guildies get their achievements.
As long as you’re focused on loot, legendaries and progression, all of which are limited or artificial in every single game, this is not the best game for you. Not for another year or two when more stuff is made available along those lines.
If you focus on immersion, exploration, RP, having fun, hanging out with your guildies, it’s likely this is a better game for you. This is all of course, my opinion.
I think I know why Anet went overboard with the RNG in this game. It’s because they became insecure about how many people would leave once they got what they wanted. There are plenty of people who will leave because they haven’t got their precusor or legendary. But I think Anet thinks even more people will leave once they get it.
I’m not 100% sure they’re wrong but I don’t think it matters. It should not be the driving factor for whether or not you get a precusor.
Wasn’t me, I resubbed wow 15.00, xfered servers 25.00, faction switched 30.00 and bought MoP 39.99…
I mean Anet could have had that money, but diminishing returns are a kitten.
Don’t worry, I spent 5x that much yesterday on the game. For every quitter there is a supporter :P
Yes I know, even 5x times what I spent, still money went to competition and lets not forget about the masses who refuse to spend any money at all on the game other than purchasing it.
It’s not the competition. It’s another game that has a different audience. I don’t like and wouldn’t play WoW. To me, it’s not competing for you. This game is offering me what I want. That game is offering you what you want.
I guess that’s why some people eat at one restaurant and some people eat at another.
What’s it like being oblivious?
LMAO! I suppose I could ask you the same question.
There are tons of people out there who don’t like WoW. I mean a lot, not just two or three. It’s entirely possible that there are more people who don’t like WoW than like it. WoW appeals to enough people to keep going.
Guild Wars 2 has a similar situation. There are people who don’t like it because it’s not particularly aimed at them. It’s aimed a different audience. If that’s oblivious so be it.
Frankly, I think I’d rather be oblivious that be completely fixated on something as minor as DR.
You could ask me the same thing, but I asked you first, what are going to play the shadowgame now?
It’s funny you say you don’t like WoW but yet you love GW2, is it because WoW is P2P? Is it because GW2 offers you BiS for little to no work?
Really there isn’t to much different between the games.
There’s a TON of difference between the two games, or at least, there was when I played it. I can’t really say about now.
When I played WoW, people would run up and steal your ore nodes while you were fighting. It was stupid and annoying. I don’t have that in Guild Wars 2. When I played WoW, everything felt very static to me. I’d go up to a guy, get a quest from him, stuff wasn’t really happening around me. When I played WoW, the game motivated me to do stuff, but it never motivated my character. WoW doesn’t have a personal story. Every human warrior has the same story. I know you don’t like the personal story in Guild Wars 2, but I did…at least most of it.
Guild Wars 2 doesn’t have people competing for tags on mobs. Hell, I didn’t even like the WoW graphic style. It felt too cartoony for me. I prefer fast travel to flight paths. There’s so many differences between these games.
Oh, and if I never see a game with an elf again, I’ll be very happy.
It’s open relatively regularly during peak hours on TC. Not right now though.
Wasn’t me, I resubbed wow 15.00, xfered servers 25.00, faction switched 30.00 and bought MoP 39.99…
I mean Anet could have had that money, but diminishing returns are a kitten.
Don’t worry, I spent 5x that much yesterday on the game. For every quitter there is a supporter :P
Yes I know, even 5x times what I spent, still money went to competition and lets not forget about the masses who refuse to spend any money at all on the game other than purchasing it.
It’s not the competition. It’s another game that has a different audience. I don’t like and wouldn’t play WoW. To me, it’s not competing for you. This game is offering me what I want. That game is offering you what you want.
I guess that’s why some people eat at one restaurant and some people eat at another.
What’s it like being oblivious?
LMAO! I suppose I could ask you the same question.
There are tons of people out there who don’t like WoW. I mean a lot, not just two or three. It’s entirely possible that there are more people who don’t like WoW than like it. WoW appeals to enough people to keep going.
Guild Wars 2 has a similar situation. There are people who don’t like it because it’s not particularly aimed at them. It’s aimed a different audience. If that’s oblivious so be it.
Frankly, I think I’d rather be oblivious that be completely fixated on something as minor as DR.
You can farm for two hours, just not in one place. Switch it up a bit. Farm for part of the time in say Orr and part of the time in Frost Gorge.
I play this game all day sometimes, and I’m killing stuff and getting drops all day. But because I’m moving around so much, DR doesn’t seem to kick in.
I suspect a lot of guilds will set up a Custom Arena for their players. I know mine will be doing it. It’s really like any other service. My mumble isn’t free. We pay for webspace. And I’ll pay for a private place to try different strategies with each other and yes, duel if we want.
Wasn’t me, I resubbed wow 15.00, xfered servers 25.00, faction switched 30.00 and bought MoP 39.99…
I mean Anet could have had that money, but diminishing returns are a kitten.
Don’t worry, I spent 5x that much yesterday on the game. For every quitter there is a supporter :P
Yes I know, even 5x times what I spent, still money went to competition and lets not forget about the masses who refuse to spend any money at all on the game other than purchasing it.
It’s not the competition. It’s another game that has a different audience. I don’t like and wouldn’t play WoW. To me, it’s not competing for you. This game is offering me what I want. That game is offering you what you want.
I guess that’s why some people eat at one restaurant and some people eat at another.
Without a large statistical sample, it’s hard to say anything, really. Is it possible you have an unlucky account? Maybe. It’s also possibly just bad RNG.
I go through phases where I’ll have really good luck and then really bad luck for extended periods of time. Same with my wife.
I even think that some of my characters might be luckier than others (but it’s probably just in my head). lol
Kraitkin will be the second legendary I go for…I’m very close now to getting the Predator. Honestly, I think it looks AWESOME. I’m not sure I want them to change it.
And the living story has been around for months now and you can still do ALL of it. You probably haven’t missed it for another month. So if you want to do it you can.
Wasn’t me, I resubbed wow 15.00, xfered servers 25.00, faction switched 30.00 and bought MoP 39.99…
I mean Anet could have had that money, but diminishing returns are a kitten.
Actually, I like the DR. Have fun in Pandaland though. There’s more to games than farming.
Rift did the same thing, though. There weren’t enough content so they just kept throwing events at us, while the worked on content. Each event ran just long enough till the next event started.
Unfortunately, all the events were basically daily quests with a currency for special rewards for that content. It wasn’t exactly thrilling stuff.
A week into it made me want to tear my eyes out. But eventually they did go on to release actual content…it just took time. I suspect the same will happen here. Busy stuff until they can actually produce new content.
Whoever’s doing it is inconveniencing complete strangers, in an attempt to troll me. Not much of a troll, since I’ll talk to anyone. One of the guys suggested I make myself invisible, I was like, why would I do that? I like talking to people. lol
“Temporary content needs to stop”
The fact that the content “stops” is what makes it temporary :P
Wow that made me laugh. hahahaha
Doesn’t look like the LFG tool is coming out this month after all. And my friend has been at it again, signing me up on gw2lfg.com for dungeons. I’m notoriously hard to troll. I just make friends out of it, and win people over. It’s no sweat of my back at all.
At any rate, this is probably the best guild recruitment tool I’ve seen to date. lol
Do we repair signs and collect memento’s while getting knocked down every time we try to walk down a path in the dungeon? Because so far that’s the F&F experience :P
To be fair the two new instances that came out last time are okay, but not for the build up they got. I enjoyed them, but you know…I’d have enjoyed them more if I hadn’t expected them to be there. I didn’t enjoy them enough to repeat them. It’s not like I need more karma.