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I think I was asked sometime last week for it, This is for you MYA I hope you guys enjoy and can’t wait to see yours from this week’s

Highly Recommend Part I or III <3

I think Gandara might also enjoy it…

Maybe Abbadons might too I don’t know

we’re looking forward to fighting the pvp servers in this match up again sometime soon

A gift to gunners hold players in particular on their borderland on reset night

thanks for the fights

I think I know what fight he his referring too Twink

At the ne tower Where 60+ DZ guys finally run over about 15 of us… when the other 15 showed up(they run from bay to ne tower) the first 15+ were pretty much dead… now if the 15+ 15 stuck together I think the outcome would of been different imo So yeah I don’t know why the need to gloat you should really beat 4 x less your numbers and we weren’t even using siege. So congrats on that we split in the interests of fairness, fun and trialing. If you engaged 60+ vs our 30+ my Biased view and experience says outcome would of been different but it would of been a epic fight but nothing is ever certain. The Bay fight was really nice as were many others.

DZ remind me a bit of Drakkars and not abbadons so keep up your good work you guys maybe lower down in the coverage/rating than Riverside and abbadons but so far ive seen a lot more fight from your server which is good to see

Cheers for the fights so far I hope they can be maintained throughout the week

Pleasently surprised how this match up as gone so far

/kind regards TUP

One german server might win on points (points win prizes gg)

But another german server will win most the fights with style and come out of them with credit and respect

such a tough choice WXP pver’s on the one hand… PvPr’s on the other…

Millers Sound a Massive Credit to the German GW2 WvW Community

good luck guys gandara too <3 I hope Abaddons don’t disappear on you like they did last week… Want to fight you both soon

Cheers [Punk] for the spur of the moment GvG fights tonight

I will give credit where its due though Diamond Pirates from abbadon’s came to fight on Friday… but that’s only time I’ve seen them… there was other few guilds who attacked us also but I think they were mostly FSP when they had less which was nice to see them just go for it

yes leadustin no one on abbadons obviously cares about fighting… thanks for proving the point… maybe you should put that on WvW recruitment thread Abbadons only interested in Karma & WXP if your looking to pvp this is not the server for you…

come out of your spawn yet?

You really think AG is a pve server?

I see separate guilds fighting from my point of view when im around

Anyways good luck finding a server that floats your boat Dis

Coming from the best server Piken at the time before the community got too overcrowded and drama… I know AG is a good home

Will be sorry for your loss but will look forward to fighting you once again

I don’t think they are crying about nightcapping so much… its more log off during prime time when your backs are to the wall instead of stand your ground and fight back and show what your made of… Reclaim your ground from the invaders.

Instead easy mode log off/disappear bore your enemies to death superior skill tactics because your amazing server and community with a pleasant forum crowd too and then come back later on with minimal to zero resistance to gain easy points/karma/wxp when all of those are meaningless for true pvpers (you know people who play wvw for pvp) not fight avoidance mentality that is running rampant through your server.

I remember it well back when Piken fought Abbadons and you were a roadblock in their progression because of that same style of play (superior tactics = fight advoidance to the max and pv door) and look at their rating history when Piken got past you with their limited numbers and coverage… they went all the way to tier 3 (without any reinforcements) I thought your server would of improved a lot by now instead of resorting to same cheap old lolable tactics when the shoe is on the other foot But I guess not haha

hahaha Lemmings The Abbadons mouth adventure game, loving the sense of humour from FSP in this thread

FSV we came to stop your farming because we were looking for a fight and AM had all but disappeared… would be lucky for them to come out of spawn when we were around… and with it being later and ques not being there anymore… the logistics were better of moving to AG for a fight instead of /yawn where are abbadons disappeared too now? we came and helped contribute our part for the server by kicking you out as you were pretty entrenched… and in the mean time Surprise Surprise abbadon’s reshow on their bl and pv door zone… we go back there take it all back kill them once or twice they disappear again… you couldn’t make that up.

I know there are plenty of servers with less people and more fight in them and usually against greater number too. I hope your few pvpers move to millers sound and make it a even better server… its the server to fight atm by a mile. 20-40 millers can kill us, 60-80 Abbadons isn’t guaranteed to kill us I was really hoping for a more aggressive Abbadons this week, not the tamed beast I’ve seen.

As for nerd raging? haha because he pointing out the lack of spine and class? you’ve been provoked on your borders all week long and you go hiding from us… if you can’t bunker inside something with 3x+ as many people. WvW is about PVP… its all about the fun fights, but it seems like your server as different priorities like wxp and karma.
Please keep on defending that pve playstyle in a pvp environment

I know AG are going to get a kitten matchup next week… but i’d love to face servers which don’t give up & flee… which are also into the fights just as much. Instead of mapchat anyone see where that abbadon’s blob that just got wiped disappeared too?

FSP’s 15 man groups had more fight in them than a zone that needs a blue Dorito to lead them Apparently.

I love AM kittens, you did have a few reasonable people post for awhile

You know there’s a difference between ticking so low during primetime and during offpeak when numbers are more disproportionate…

You had plenty of guys on AM bl… so that we weren’t defending non sense more excuses please… We for once played you at your own game and you lost(siege game is boring but we had a objective and played like old times). You lost three tier three keeps within 5 minutes of each other… and everything else was already wooden… so you had no place to bunker down and siege up against our handful of guys.

Your breakout events couldn’t help you… or your PVD… we left map to go to ag bl helped kick FSV out of bay… while you came back out of the woodwork to pv door (shocker) your borderland back… we came back and turned it all blue again But then you guys disappeared because you couldn’t easy mode… then surprise surprise half hour after we ended our raid 40+ am showed up on AG bl to pv door for “fun” and “challenge” hahaha you couldn’t make it up

So you guys like to throw shots at other servers, but can’t take none yourselves

Dissapointed not to run into your megablob again and challenge ourselves… your blobs and semi megablobs were just not good enough… which is backed up by you switching zones to avoid fight

AM you love to pick on the smaller and unorganised groups… but when you find a dog that can bite back you go missing… whats up with that?

We just want more fights from you and you failed to deliver… Want to face miller’s sound best german server because they bring the fight and then some and one of the best servers in general.

Emixam yes some friendlies built and manned two ac’s on top of the gate… as for garrison we were waiting for you guys to go in the breach we made and saw the ac’s wreck you(our friendlies too and some of us), then we went in gradually and hedged our way in more and more… you guys came back and almost got in south inner Watergate(which I was personally hoping for a lord room fight)… Bluel’s force I guess attacked you for fun and maybe you run out of steam I know gate got down to 40% at one point before it was too well defended. There was no double team just good ole 3 way

As for random turnout for GvG I can understand that and 20 is a harder number to hit for some than say 15 vs 15… look forward to fights in the future as spectator or participant thanks for the reply.

Any others for GvG on Thursday Evening?

/kind Regards TUP

Belma… I agree about roaming, Roaming hands down is the best, because of the variables, random factor… Use of more tactics, terrain and the shock factor and challenge of differing numbers.

I use to be more cynical about GvG also, until we applied ourselves at GvG like we do at WvW and participated more instead of infrequent… Then fighting guilds like MYA, Yak, QQ and others you realise its a lot more than just pushing into each other and killing… Especially with MYA in particular. Those fights can last a long intense amount of time, and little things can sway them one way or the other (like a crucial rally for example) or one guy timing a key ability at the right time catching others by surprise.

Each guild develops their own style, and each commander in each guild also as their own style, so there is variety and a lot of adapting.

As for not talking about blobbing I’ve been showing a lot of restraint on this subject… and it always gets heated discussion… Personally we fought your megablob on Friday we did okay, we looked at a few things and have been looking for it ever since to test ourselves and changes… But we are one of the biggest and some say most organised guild on AG who look for those kind of fights… We have only found blob or semi megablob since and lag permitting its been more fun.

The main issue is not many groups will be our size or as organised by themselves… there’s a lot of smaller/medium scale guys who looking for the fights they can participate in by themselves and that kind of playstyle is lost because of the lack of splitting from AM… So their role and contribution and level of fun is servely effected… What enemy servers would like from you and respect you more for is not megablobbing but splitting into multiple groups more often… (not saying they have to be small) have a main force of 60-70(should be enough) and another 20-40 look after elsewhere on the map.

That doesn’t seem unreasonable to ask and if another server megablobs you, you can just return to the status quo. So the options to the small scale guys on other servers facing you is take a week off WvW or try to counter blob you in a less enjoyable way and more laggy environment. So I can understand their frustrations, and of course you guys will get frustrated because everyone undermines your server achievements.

Before there are any replies says blah blah blah we play how we want, its not very mature when it breaks the games engine and intentionally ruins others fun. Splitting 60-40 or 70-30 instead of 100-0 ain’t a huge difference in your playstyle and should provide more challenging fun fights for you and enemy opposition. But if you want to keep repeating the circle of life then that’s entirely up to you guys

I Personally prefer a aggressive Abbadon’s over Riverside.

Belfagor Diabolos.1940:

Dont take me wrong I didn’t say so TUP stay all the time inside the tower – U have this advantage ( good 4 U ) so U can use a tactic – strike and hide – when things going wrong .. every one will do this same on Ur place … when FSP and majority of AM ( excluding this AM players on the cliff ) was fighting in open field …
U right "camping " wasn’t the best word here …
my apology for misunderstanding ….

From my perspective it looked like AM had the biggest force outside, then FSP then AG… as from what I saw that night there was TUP force, Bluel Force and a few friendlies doing their own thing and we were obviously split up most the time.

forgive us for using some stratergy and tactics… it wasn’t strike and hide when things go wrong… it was strike and regroup to strike again… We fought in the open between both enemies there is no need for any negativity it was one of the better fights of the night. It was nice to see all 3 servers going at it in the open without any bias and not too much lag.

Belfagor Diabolos… My fraps footage disagrees with what you say It was a proper 3 way with no bias.

Maybe we have different definition of camping… but we were outside the ne tower engaging more often than inside… and its not like we setup a ton of defensive siege waiting for gate/wall to go down… We were fighting and killing people with our actual abilities the way the game is meant to be played, you know using class profession skills.

I particularly enjoyed the fight in the ne tower VS AM(was a decent scrap)… where unfortunately overtime a few of us got knocked out and couldn’t get back in (about 7 of us still outside fighting) and slowly the guys inside got whittled down… Meanwhile two AG guys recaptured hills

So ADAC, DP, & any other AM guilds

AoA, Blos, DW, FSV, PUNK & any other FSP guilds

Any of you interested in GvG this week?

Thanks for the fights on AM bl tonight

Still looking for GvG on Tuesday or Thursday if anyone is interested 20 vs 20 ideally… maybe 15+ if any takers pst Kratoon

/kind regards TUP

Abbadons trying all they can to steal Riverside’s crown of the most universally disliked server to face but still coming up just short…

FSP ain’t crying, they are just highlighting like the majority of other servers you face… how you guys want to play the game in a way the game cannot handle if all 3 servers did the same it would be a complete slide show and bad joke… your server just encourages that kind of playstyle and for the most part I can see why, because without 100 guys on the spot there isn’t much else on offer from Abbadons that I’ve seen… Still the same old fight avoiding server that you use to be back in the old days vs piken in the very low tiers.

You guys really have nothing on millers sound, that’s a server to be respected and feared… they can do more with 40 than you can with 100 without the lag. Try to kid yourselves all you want, but your reputation is well earnt… your a easy mode zergling server in the mid tiers where everyone else for the most part (yes every server zergs, but no one cares about organising megablob 100+ people in comms and no one cares too much about points) as evolved and are just looking for fights and fun… The Gandara’s, The AG’s and FSP’s…

You may see this post as arrogant and get all defensive… boo hoo, but when I see zerglings gloating when they avoid fights and happily pv door or pick on small forces then like I said you deserve your reputation and everything that comes with it. Besides for the most part I never know which fights you AM guys are in because I never recognise your tags… I only know 2 guilds from AM and I have to think about it… that is DP and Fame… DP cuz they are on the GvG website and Fame because FSP called them Lame haha. Where are the rest of your guilds? Oh right my bad you only need one blue Dorito per a map

We can give your blobs a good fight by ourselves, now im pretty sure if we hand held with other AG guilds we would roflstomp your precious blobs all the time… just lucky for you we and others are allergic to hand holding and chose not to easy mode you(because its boring and less challenging something that’s hard for you to comprehend I know don’t worry)… but I wouldn’t rule anything out to show you our “superior skill” (i.e run more numbers and auto attack gates ho ho just like the game should be played am I right?) your anti pvp server doesn’t deserve our usual standards

Seriously anyone for GvG?

/10loveyoulongtimes <3

and before there are more comments about 20 vs 20 isn’t GvG… you are the type of person who will be saying next 100 vs 20 is pvp lol.

looking forward to any replies and potential matches

Here’s a crazy idea

AM forum trolls, get your guilds to GvG us 20 vs 20 … if you win you silence your critics no? If you have no desire to fight us, you show your true colours

Its a pretty simple choice, I know which one you will likely choose and ill be pleasantly surprised if you chose the other. But here’s hoping

Show us what your made of AM

Offer is open to FSP also, but we all want to see what AM is made of

Gandara took you long enough to revert to your old mud slinging ways

Everything you mentioned about AG… could easily say the same about Gandara (and was worse the other day as it was organised guilgs not pugs doing it so you have more control over that)

Sounded like you were more into taking objectives, than going for fights… we didn’t find much opposition in AG BL yesterday or we would of been there too… Only MYA & DC, mya(who were running lighter numbers) went to save their home borderland… we helped lock down AG and left it in the capable hands of the friendly commander, while we chased the action and we found the right zone for us… like DIUS mentioned we barely placed any siege all night and was just looking for fights.

You can’t compare either server to riverside or blobadons on the same scale… we all know what they are like and its 24/7 mentality. All you can hope for is not drawing the short straw on Friday and being stuck with the snooze fest that is riverside.

Im pretty sure what happened on AG BL was no way worse than your organised YOLO event you run and encouraged on a large scale (yes it was a little bit ago) but still… 50-30 split sounds pretty good to me.

I could use Briars on millers for example, when we fought entire Gandara server just against TUP (we chose not to use siege if we did maybe we would of won) your guys siege wiped a few of ours but still was a okay fight. Now all of a sudden Gandara = Blobbadon? No I wouldn’t go that far, I would say you were dirty blobbers for a fight <3 but it’s not all you do… unlike said German servers… just like its not all AG do… so to compare to the Anti PvP servers is a bit harsh and over reaction from frustration.

As for wanting Far shiverpeaks over Aurora Glade, remind me what guilds FSP have? I’ve fought them a few times and never remember them like a Dius or Yak Attack

I want Piken… Baruch, Millers, Gandara… Augury Rock
I Don’t want Dead servers which we will steamroll or zee germans (besides millers love you guys(plz convert the rest of the german servers then no one ends up with a kitten matchup))

Thanks for the fights Tonight on AG bl Mya, You are the guild to fight ATM and best german guild around, you even have a touch of class without adding which a few guilds don’t ever have a second thought for which is nice to see Just a shame our timezone for raid clash a bit.

From what I heard and saw tonight… Was quite a lot of friendlies against Mya and co… we eventually got our raid very slowly in AG bl… meanwhile there was multiple organised forces of Millers all in the same area in the north west between bay and garrison… a lot o f people wanting to fight our 13 guys :P That is where some of this allegations of millers come from, but really they were 3 separate forces just adding a lot into each other though but it wasn’t for a long period of time and it was where everyone was.

But Gandara on the other hand later on, in the south east camp then all over the rest of the map… for a lot longer duration had multiple guild raids playing together like T2 use to be… hand holding just to fight us, when some of those forces alone were running equal numbers If not more than us… still we got some fun fights But I don’t like to see enemy servers throw stones at Aurora Glade when their own server and guild groups are doing exact same if not worse

So thanks again for the fights MYA you guys set the standard and thanks Gandara for fighting 4+ organised gandara guilds(non small scale) at same time

/Kind Regards TUP

Very Nice Post Yish

You are in unique postion of being from Riverside and now up against them… You see exactly the change we have seen… in 2012 Riverside use to be a top ten server with never say die spirit and much more aggression (they were a threat)… now they are the anti pvp server. They don’t play for fights at all, despite their trolls on the forums trying to convince otherwise. They are okay picking on smaller unorganised force with large numbers, but if they meet anything organised they can’t kill they go in hiding and siege up or switch zones.

DW & IF are pretty good guilds, but no one wants to get stuck in a match up with bore anti PvP servers… still all about the points when you get random opposition :s

Are they being cheap they only built 10 ac’s? I remember them having 60 superior siege blueprints on hills a few times (mostly AC 30+ on outer alone) all superior no normal.

Rest of the WvW community wants this matchup locked so you guys fight for eternity you are same time zone and similar playstyle… so much ironic comments coming from RS during this matchup haha

Enjoy the siege warfare lads

lol Dran atleast you got his last name right this time… haha I was expecting Damon Carter to be honest :P

I hope you Anet guys enjoyed your short stay on AG, even though you visited at the worse prime time possible (for us) I know you guys have limited time slot/opportunity… but with this being our most boring matchup, you picked the quietest day of the week and the worse zone (Eternal battlegrounds initially) so not much of a representation of usual way things are

But it was nice to see you guys not forget the European playerbase… Piken,Vabbi,AG?

I should have some fraps footage of you guys which I might turn into a movie… we will see I hope you appreciated all the blueprints I threw down for you in EB hahaha

/kind regards TUP

might share guild reset movie later on

Hydeaut you just proved Krato’s point straight away… I mean seriously carried a server?

One guild can’t carry a server, they can have a big influence/impact and if anyone has a big impact on AG its most likely KISS in terms of points… so you chose the wrong guild to give credit too.

Also again points mean nothing Riverside… Server score is all random now… there is no meaning unless your a sad no lifer who takes WvW score to be everything and put in crazy hours against no opposition just for the score… that is a lot of compensating for something. It is not healthy to take the score that seriously. ANET killed any meaning in campaign(there was little meaning to begin with) so for people to still take it seriously is just so lolz worthy.

So yes we keep making excuses… for riverside to hide in towers, and swap borderlands to escape us because they are generally as a server so anti pvp… and have no issue when they are picking on a small force, but when they come up against something organised and large enough to bite back they cower in fear that their pixels will be sent to spawn… that is a true story. Where is riverside’s aggression except for on the forums? So much talk yet so little action from Riverside unless it’s when people are sleeping

Also Riverside always had bigger WvW population than AG, just because AG had it’s slightly boosted for a few weeks… Riverside where a top ten server for a long time, When people write things like thakittens hard to take you guys seriously.

Kinkywarrior hows it going? killing larger numbers then they log off or map swap if not hide in towers… Sad but true but its what have come to expect… only people I see not doing that tonight is IF Guild, we had some good scraps so credit to you guys for playing the game. Riverside put a lot more effort into their forum posts than coming out to fight that is for sure… there is so much denial going on its sad but funny…

Like comments like diminishing kill/death ratio when if anything its improving because there is lack of threat from RS because besides some of their guild groups no one is interested in actually pvping or fighting. I could boast and just list my k/d ratio from reset but I have no need or desire too because k/d ratio means nothing… its all about the next fight, your getting your next pvp fix… something riverside as a server really struggles to grasp. Its all about the points when it comes to you guys, all about the coverage, numbers etc instead of the actual fights themselves which is why no server wants to fight you. Who care’s about meaningless points, they don’t determine who you get drawn up against, and if they did, we would purposely throw matches just to avoid servers like you and play against like minded servers who play to fight.

You say these things about krato for labelling a server a nub server? and respect? the shame? the boring stories and flames? See this is what we don’t get about riverside… how can saying a server is a nub server… be worse than calling someone a racist for having a different opinion? I mean seriously your priorities are very questionable when you keep making comments like this… and so very blinkered and biased Defending your server and throwing counter claims about AG? but really you can’t defend the indefensible you are being hypocritical… Shame of guild leader throwing personal slurs reflects on your server…

When we are talking about you, we are talking about your beloved playstyle or lack of… these generalizations which you call them which are based on multiple hours gaming against you… If you feel so offended that we talk such way about your playstyle then do something about it and change it. You have the power and choice to do that, or keep on boring everyone to death and doing what you do, and cycle will repeat no surprise… I already know which will be opted for

Reztek do you feel like a winner? I automatically felt like a loser when the server reset happend and you load in and there’s riverside there for a week… because you know the winner is whoever has the most fun in WvW that week and getting fun out of riverside is like drawing blood out of stone… A few wipes and blobs disappear except for reset night… you can take a horse to water but you can’t make them drink (fight)

I enjoy fighting DW, and IF proved tonight they are good… but rest of server is very PVD friendly and could care less about fighting. So many retreats “tactical withdraws with superior numbers” so many superior numbers chasing a handful of guys… but coming across any kind of threat they run despite having the numbers advantage.

/kind Regards TUP

+1 looking out for IF

“I am not endorsing the General’s choice of words in his post. I think the word he has chosen was inappropriate. I don’t know what the General’s intention was when he was writing his post, but assuming good faith, I imagine that he was looking for the word bigot.

Do you think the latter term is inappropriate, too? Judge for yourself"

Better worded but how am I even a bigot when what I state is the truth based on fact (many many hours of experience in WvW against Riverside and other german servers) and that opinion/fact is very similar to many other players from many different servers who have had similar feed back about said servers… I see a lot of deluded posts about X server’s playstyle and denial and counter claims that they don’t play a certain way and other servers do exactly the same just as much lol.

I see how you are selective with which words to quote… but you leave out the praise for millers sound which are a german server… who are very organised and play to fight, they are a threat, they are aggressive… they are not a bore fest. Your server as built up a anti pvp mindset for whatever reason and that is why no one wants to fight you and I feel sorry for whoever is unlucky enough to be randomly drawn against you unless its one of the very few servers who play exact same way as you do.

On a more positive note instead of defending myself from absurd allegations because of my strong views… Thankyou DW for GvG tonight more fun in 5 mins of fights with you guys than rest of your server could probally muster up… hell even the roleplay with you guys is more fun than ZZZZZ arrow carts hide in tower with 3 x superior numbers minimum…

If only more of your server played like you guys do, your server reputation would be greatly increased.

Pretty gutted that Anet Won our GvG as we were both getting warmed up but cheers none the less, maybe we bump into you before end of matchup

“And here I am, once having thought highly of a guild like TUP.

But after reading this thread and the many sad and sorry excuses of their leaders and members for why they are not doing that fine in this match-up (of course, it must have been that their opponents are honorless dogs!) I guess that feeling is gone now. What hurts especially is the fact that so many of you are unable to show the slightest bit of respect for your opponents, or even openly show nothing but hate and disdain. This is something I will never understand.

It’s really a shame that the sad display of just a few players can harm the public perception of a server so harshly. Yet, I still firmly believe most players from AG are actually really ok. I just hope that if we inevitably meet tougher opponents in an upcoming week, the bad loosers from our server (which we quite obviously will also have a few of) will not give a similarly shameful display.

~MRA"

To me your opinion means nothing because the lack of condemnation about your own players being abusive and calling someone a racist for having a different opinion… and Yet TUP are the big bad hateful evil ones? I mean all the riverside replies are so blinkered… You guys are really playing a game by yourselfs.

As for complaining about dying? losing on points? nope… Just the lack of balls repeatedly shown by X server… the lack of care for fightings, and actually pvping in a pvp game. Its tedious and boring to fight against… well try to fight, one side trying, other side hiding. We don’t care if we win or die… but to not have fights at all because some people are afraid their pixels might be sent to respawn… everyone dies.

If you don’t want us to point out your bore tactics… then just come out and fight like atleast 20 other servers do…

I had respect for a aggressive riverside… I have respect for your best guild DW for their ability but also their conduct… but I can’t respect the extreme amount of fight avoidance and point obsessives in a pvp game… I’ve posted my respect about the 2012 riverside server which sadly no longer exists

DW rescue the matchup please :P

Abaddon’s and Riverside just remind of a cooking show can’t cook won’t cook… but instead of cooking its fighting Respectively…

I use to have the utmost respect for Riverside, and even voted for them for best server in the awards back in 2012 while we were still on piken… Because of your never say die fighting spirit and aggression that you use to poses (Kodash was slightly more organised and riverside had more spirit) after fighting 24 of the 27 servers a lot during prime and late night I was in almost unique postion to judge. Riverside was a beast.

But this was last year… other servers played catched up and evolved, it feels like riverside took one step forward two steps backwards. Riverside could of easily been a german Piken server. I use to be on my guard on the battlefield against Riverside coming at you from any angle with any number… but these days Riverside don’t have that aggressive presence anymore which is a shame. I only seen that beast rise from its slumber very infrequently, like when Baruch had some fly hackers in EB against you.

Millers sound are one of the best servers we have faced imo and believe it or not they are german server.

Its a shame that IF guy and DW have to play on same server as some of these trolls, you deserve a lot better guys it must be said Riverside forum warriors you don’t get along with other german servers and you don’t get along with international servers… it says a lot about your server to be honest.

as for bragging videos… lol we don’t just do kill montages we show ourselves die… talk about facepalm or what. They were just examples to highlight said behaviour… Now don’t get me wrong every server plays a certain way to a extent… There are two types of servers and we are on different ends of the spectrum… AG, Piken, Gandara, Augury, Baruch the one side…. other side Riverside, Abaddon, elona…

Riverside forum warriors can do all your talking here we actually do it in game

lol mate you want some video proof well of this kind of behaviour from german servers well here you go… from a couple days ago ( I know its not riverside its drakkar this time… but riverside are exactly the same)

7 minutes in… we encounter that kind of behaviour daily from certain servers… your’s happens to be one of them and of the originals. I generally delete this type of fraps because I don’t like to use it in videos and prefer to focus on the roleplay or actual fights instead of x server runs away and hides again…

Nothing you can say can defend 7 mins + and that is what other players from servers that face these types of servers see also and that is why their opinions are the way they are and won’t change… until you change which isn’t very likely to happen.

That playstyle is boring, everyone wants to avoid you in their matchup’s not because they fear you or get outplayed… because of the tedious spoil tactics… If your server actually learnt to play like DW you would be a feared and highly regarded server and so much stronger for it and WvW would be a lot better for it…

That being said reset was a lot of fun… because of lack of bunkering and lag. I don’t expect you guys to come at us with equal numbers, I expect and don’t mind more(if its just pug blob) just come to fight for fun… why bother playing the non existent campaign.

Ive been called many things mate and many which I let slide with a pinch of a salt

But I draw the line at being called a racist for pointing out the view of x servers from the outside… and their playstyle from experience.

You sir you should be ashamed of yourself to call someone that unfounded just because you disagree or do not like my opinion.

I team with people from many different cultures from all over the world… and even multiple germans do you think I would team with them or they would team with me if I was what you say I am?

You should be banned for such slander and defamation… there is a line and you crossed it by a mile.

I expect pugs to bring more to fight a guild that is for sure and I don’t mind that even when its a bit excessive, I live for the fights… but I have a lot of footage of german blobs running away from fights and 80 guys running through 20 straight into a keep to hide behind and use siege… instead of engage and fight… If you read the forums there’s a lot of players who share similar opinion of x servers…

Besides Millers sound is german and so is kodash… do I say they are like your server? no I do not… so who is making the generalization’s when mine is based on a lot of hours in WvW up close and personal.

Unfoundly Calling someone a racist is pretty ignorant and hateful General Rager.

sorry to let you down Koma but when you keep coming up against the same Anti-WvW and Anti-PvP servers who still despite points losing any kind of meaning(in deciding matchups) possible still are fanatical about it and not playing for fights or fun then yeah they thoroughly deserve their reputation they have built.

Ive fought a lot of servers and its just a german server mentality issue Argwulf

Elona, riverside and abbadons suffer from it the most

Kodash and Millers ain’t that bad to be fair… and Drakkar if they had more people maybe they would be more like abbadons.

I look at other national servers or international, Augury rock, Baruch Bay they know how to fight… so it’s not a national server thing… its a german Ideology

Their love for arrow carts, bunkering, zerging knows no bounds. They are point’s fanatics, they play the game for points not fun. They still feel the need to do alarm clock raiding and pv door this far and deep into the game and think score actually matters? and even now when you get random opposition… score is meaningless is all about the fights and fun you get from the game…

I don’t see how AC, bunkering, zerging can be fun personally when you are the bigger force… for me that is definition easy mode and just too boring and not challenging enough i.e little fun to be had but german servers lap it up like there is no tomorrow.

Guilds like DW & MYA set the standard for germans, but the others are so far behind in their T3 bunkers on arrow carts its unreal. So it’s not like germans cant fight, its more the case of they won’t fight unless odds are really stacked in their favour even then still lose too often with all the advantages. They never roam and operate independently enough to improve… just relying on weight of numbers, siege and upgrades as per usual that is their strength but also their weakness.

This is why enemy servers think you are boring. Maybe one day in a year from now german servers will stop caring about points and kitten because it’s all meaningless but still they ain’t found that out yet which is pretty lolz worthy to see people try so hard day in day out week in week out.

“hey guys I have a golem and took a keep today at 5 am with 50 guys… it was pretty epic, their two man defense was pretty brutal but we finally got it down after a few wipes…

Then we upgraded it and manned the arrow carts while the enemy was sleeping, now it is a fortress and we swap our shifts around to man the siege ho ho ho because that is what world vs world and player vs player is all about obviously"

If only more german servers went down millers sound route /respect

for anyone who likes WvW videos check out my guild mates latest video (be warned if your sensitive to flashing lights etc use your own discretion)

Kind Regards The Unlikely Plan

German servers are funny but boring… Anet should move all the german servers into their own ranking league where they get to fight each other all the time and enjoy their epic number 1 spam and whoever can build the most siege(arrow carts anyone)… They can have a 3 way sitting in each keep all night waiting for someone to roam outside their walls while they tell jokes on comms lolol

They are playing a totally different game to the rest of us, and are still points fanatics even though incase you guy’s weren’t aware points don’t mean anything guys the match up’s are random and they didn’t mean much previously anyways besides who wanted to pv door the most.

There is only a handful of decent german guilds that I’ve seen in action so far (DW(riverside) Mya (MS)) they know how to play the game… just a shame about the rest of Deutschland. They could really learn a lot from these good guilds, but they choose to ignore that.

There is no love lost between other servers but they are universally united in their opinion of german bore zergling servers and no it’s not a national server thing… because augury and Baruch can actually fight in the open.

I just laugh at all the zergling pride going on in this thread, while they try to ignore or forget memories of being wiped by a force atleast 3 or 4 times smaller… for me that is the ultimate embarrassment and would rage quit if that ever happened… its obvious to spot the easy mode servers who are full of excuses to encourage their style of boring play instead of man up and improve their actual fighting in a pvp enviroment, so much fraps footage of german megablobs running away afraid to fight its sad.

Oh my gawd I just remembered how many times Abadons kept switching map last time we fought them to get away from us tee hee hee… hallmarks of the best server EU, keep up that impressive fighting spirit guys you are a inspiration to us all we could learn a lot from you and your meta gameplay

Good luck to Gandara and FSP killing who ever zerg’s the most

/kind regards your favourite Tuppie <3

Thanks for the fights tonight on reset on Aurora Glade BL Hope you guys had as much fun as us

/kind regards TUP

good job I didn’t post after you did Dran saying you would never get a response or I would be eating **** right about now jajaja

well atleast I knew you would never get a positive respone Dran :P

The gamer inside me feels a bit sad when I read “Holding a tower against all odds with some smart siege placement and a bit of luck may be one of the most fun things I’ve ever done in a video game.” is the high point/maximum you have got out of WvW so far. I just imagine a t3 tower and a gazillion superior arrow carts riverside style :P

Bring on the 14th… shame we couldn’t vote for tomorrow

I will also link this for any chicken lovers out there hahaha

Enjoy our movie

/kind regards TUP

I will randomly throw this out there in new topic for anyone to see

If anyone likes chickens this is your thing haha

/kind Regards TUP

Spread love not War

For our buddies in this tier on all three servers

I hope you enjoy haha :P

/Kind Regards TUP

Also Mya… Thanks for the fights so far, Ive setup some gvg for our AG buddies NR before (necro raiders) I enquired and they are interested in potential 15 vs 15 GvG against you guys before Friday reset I believe. Contact Ralin to sort it out. Tomorrow we should be about not sure in what number but contact Quecc if you want to discuss.

uploaded 3 videos so far this week (action from Friday/sunday) if your interested Part III is below for your viewing the other parts are similarly named but have more roleplay involved haha if you like that kind of thing

Hope you enjoy

/Kind Regards TUP

Firstly I don’t really understand a lot of the QQ in this weeks thread from what ive seen from my point of view so far. Compared to RS/AM you guys are a breathe of fresh air. I can’t State how I truly feel about both servers Both points obsessive servers who try to suck the fun out of WvW anyway they can. Neither have improved in along time just rely on pure mass numbers and siege vs even smaller foes.

Millers Sound… compared to other german servers are very good if not the best we have fought (I would compare you to kodash but haven’t fought them in awhile) Which is nice to see a german server try to achieve.

Fsp from my point of view you run more pug heavy blobs and are generally less organised but your still better than RS/AM by a mile… those guys are not even interested in fights just points points points avoid fights and pv door as much as possible for wxp and points =D so kudos to you for wanting to fight even if numbers usually favour you from my pov

Tier 4 use to be a great tier with Gandara/AG + baruch… Now it seems like tier 5 is the place to be if Gandara & AG can rekindle their bromance… but with the new random matchup I really do feel sorry for any server who draws the short straw and ends up vs riverside… Only positive thing I can say about Riverside is DW (one of the best german guilds around) having to collude to be on same borderland is only way to get fun haha

Thanks for the fights

/kind regards TUP

Will miss fighting DW… hopefully next servers will generally be more fun and challenging (i.e less siege more come out to play)

Ending the matchup on a more positive note, check out the latest video I made @ TUP

Hope you guys enjoy it

/kind regards TUP

Thanks for the fights DW… Finally some challenging even numbers fights, your a different animal to the lolol zergs.

Maybe the most challenging similar number fight’s we’ve had since we fought WAR from AR

Respect to the Mesmer that was stalking us all night

Its rare that you run into people actually looking for fights and fun lately in WvW… so very refreshing to see but expect nothing less from DW

I do enjoy some good old fashioned german story telling its mildly amusing I must say.

lol Since when as the lower ground been the better postion?

DW… I don’t know if you guys will be raiding on wed evening or not… but who should I pm to tell you which bl we will be on? Not GvG, just WvW in same zone so chances of good fight are much higher… because no offense you guys are in a different league to the rest in this tier and I wonder why that is… oh yes because you operate independently and love to fight. Such a Alien concept to most

Kind Regards TUP

I must say Respect to the guild ROLE I believe which are riverside guild?… attacking us like that with 50% – 75% our number and having a fight… Refreshing to see from a german server/guild… Besides DW don’t see it happen often especially when its not even even.

Makes me laugh and cringe at the zergers who far too often waypoint or run away and bunker in keeps instead of just play to fight like the Role guys did for fun.

/Salute for not backing down and bringing the fight to us, just wish you had a few more people so it was more fair but nice to see havoc group still exist

I like German Fairytale time it is interesting

There is only one enemy guild in this tier that I’ve noticed consistently for positive reasons and that is DW by far above all the rest because they have their own identity and get things done by themselves. Also they conduct themselves well and don’t seem to post fairytales like some people do.

DW have my respect… This tier use to be awesome with multiple guilds from baruch and gandara… Now its mostly farming zergers which can get boring eitherway after awhile.

Riverside use to have stronger guilds, where is the likes of DTK, Zorn, RSC, FX

Abbadon… What you lack in skill you make up for in aggression and its more respectable than ultra defensive mind set of another german server to be honest.

Although its still disappointing to see people waypoint out pre fights when they double your number in this day and age… reminds me of when people use to crash their clients to prevent death haha.

Btw IF guy, we were only running 21 (yes that’s right the TUP Zerg lol) and trust me, saw alot of blobbing and a lot of manpower and even guild groups from servers which claim they have none… Maybe you will see things from the other side if Fem Nom Nom makes a video of reset.

Marcy is because he and others have already explained it a bit… but also because we aint afraid to die in a video game LOL… we will push things we know we shouldn’t but will try regardless because waypointing out is so much fun

KrisHQ If its red… its dead.

Agreed Natzmc, its been many months since we fought abbadons mouth (when we were on piken square) and lol our old rival hasn’t seemed to of changed much… avoiding fights during primetime to come back later in the night en masse and pve door zones for points. I personally couldn’t play that way day in day out. If they wipe a few times they disappear.

Germans servers are really too point Obsessed/fixated… they use every trick in the book and I just don’t understand how they get any enjoyment from that style… (waypoint out of map to avoid a enemy half your numbers for example instead of fight)

Everyone else are fights/action orientated…

Before anyone starts its not a national server thing… because Baruch Bay don’t play that way, and Augury rock don’t either… I don’t remember Kodash doing it so much either (been awhile maybe they changed) Its just the german servers in this tier.

Thanks for the fights on RS bl tonight

Nice to see all servers not excessively blobbing, sure there was some big 40-50+ zergs but not silly number causing lag. Good to see riverside come out more than usual and fight, although still prone to running away/waypointing out or to a different borderland instead of engage in the fight that’s there to be had. Focus more on fighting and less on trying to build siege in the open, you never know you might enjoy it

Some good scraps, a bit of a shame Abbadons gave up pretty early… more of the same please

/kind Regards TUP

judging from reset looks like Gandara won last week

pretty funny to see Abbadon’s out german playstyling Riverisde on their borderland though

a few nice fights to be had, but seems both servers are all about fictional points over fights so predictable and boring.