Guild Wars 2

Ensign.2189:

I’ve gotten a salvage rate of ~11% T6 materials (from items level 74+), regardless of item rarity, regardless of salvage kit.

Me as well, also with the Salvage-O-Matic. Maybe the whole mechanic is broken and the same on every salvage kit.

Khisanth.2948:

What exactly is “rarer material”? :/
Is it ectos? Higher tier materials? Getting refined items instead of the unrefined?

I’ve always interpreted the % on the kits as “% increase to the base rate”.

I don’t understand why they leave this sort of thing ambiguous. -_-

It actually means that the common crafting material that is guaranteed for every salvage (ore/scraps/logs, etc) has a higher chance to drop a common mat that is 1 tier above the salvaged item. So when you salvage a lvl 80 greatsword with a rare or mystic salvage kit, you are supposed to have a 25% chance to get some ori back instead of mithril, regardless of the rarity of the salvaged item.

Hi Guys,

I happen to salvage alot of rare trinkets, usually 500-1000 per week, for a couple of months now. I was usually keeping track of my ecto salvage rate because every now and then people report low rng for ecto salvages. While my ecto salvage rate usually averaged out over a couple of hundred usages, i realised that my salvage rate of orichalcum over mithril ore was nowhere near the 25% stated in the tooltip.

So i started to keep track of it over the last 2 months and from 5000 salvages, only 11.3% produced orichalcum ore, the rest was mithril.

I know that there are some people out there that salvage alot of rares/exotics and i was wondering if they made the same observations.

From my point of view, i would say that the 25% chance to get rarer materials from the Master Salvage Kit is bugged but it could also be that the trinkets in general are buggedin their droprate.

As i dont salvage much rare weapons and armor, i would like to have some feedback on this issue from someone who does.

I gonna start using Mystic Salvage Kits for my next 1k trinkets to see if the droprate of ori is different.

The wiki states that it doesnt matter which rarity the salvaged item has, so i might extend my research to lower rarity items/kits.
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Salvaging

Thx for any feedback

Edit: As there is a perception that all salvage kits seem to have the same drop chance for rarer materials, i will edit this post as i do more research.

Here is my data so far:
Sample 1:
Kit used: Master Salvage Kit (25% rare mats, 80% upgrades)
Sample Size: 5000
Salvage Item: Rare lvl 80 Trinkets
Mithril: 6334
Orichalcum: 715 (11.3%)
Upgrade Components: 408 (81.6%)
Ectos: 441 (88%)

Sample 2:
Kit used: Mystic Salvage Kit (25% rare mats, 80% upgrades)
Sample Size: 250
Salvage Item: Rare lvl 80 Trinkets
Mithril: 310
Orichalcum: 35 (11.3%)
Upgrade Components: 193 (77.2%)
Ectos: 235 (94%)

Sample 3:
Kit used: Crude Salvage Kit (0% chance of rarer mats)
Sample Size: 250
Salvaged Item: Discarded Garment
Silk: 389
Gossamer: 29 (7.5%)

Sample 4:
Kit Used: Journeyman (20% chance of rarer mats)
Sample Size: 250
Salvaged Item: Discarded Garment
Silk: 291
Gossamer: 33 (8.4%)

Sample 5:
Kit used: Basic Kit (10% for rarer mats)
Sample Size: 250
Salvaged Item: Ragged Garment
Wool: 116
Cotton: 342 (74.7%)

Sample 6:

Kit Used: Fine Kit (15% chance for rarer mats)
Sample Size: 250
Salvaged Item: Frayed Garment
Cotton: 80
Linen: 377 (82.5%)

Sample 7:

Kit used: Mystic Salvage Kit (25% chance for rarer mats)
Sample size: 250
Item salvaged: Worn Garment
Jute: 88
Wool: 379 (82.9%)

Sample 8:

Salvage Kit used: Salvage-o-matic (10% chance at rarer mats)
Sample Size: 250
Item Salvaged: Torn Garment
Linen: 103
Silk: 333 (76.4%)

Hohotask.1574:

Are there any plans to implant Wow like 1 vs 1 duels?
It is a great time sink when waiting for something in-game.

This is something i would love to see in Guild Wars 2.

You can do 1v1 duels at your hearts content in your own custom arena.

Spend 1600 gems, invite your friends, knock yourself out.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Custom_Arena_Starter_Kit

Please do us all a favour and remove your topic or go back to wow, if this isnt the game for you.

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

Wanze.8410:

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

Wanze.8410:

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

I don’t have an issue with soul bound gear. That’s pretty standard across these types of games. I would like to see a better implementation of easily swapping out the stats on a set of armor. This way we don’t necessarily have to invest an arm, a leg, and our first born child into obtaining more than one set. Mainly thinking ascended here, since my husband when thru and broke everything down and tallied it all up across our characters.

When i hit lvl 80 about a month after release, it took me at least another month, if not longer, to gather enough gold/karma/etc. to get my first full exotic set and the next ones also needed their time. I didnt hear anybody complaining back then that its too hard to gear up different alts in multiple exotic builds.

Just because exotic sets are easy to come by now doesnt mean the same should apply for ascended gear.

Exotics are much easier to get, although sometimes the t6 materials can be a wicked kitten if you don’t have the gold to just buy them. But there is a huge discrepancy between the availability of exotics vs the availability of ascended. You built karma to obtain your exotics. At the present time, ascended can only be crafted, and the leveling of that crafting can be extremely expensive. Drastically more so than a single set, or even several sets of exotics.

I was comparing to exotic gear when the game launched and the months after, when they were best in slot. At that time, it nearly took as much effort to get a full set as it is now with ascended. And Anet stated that the player base got exotics way faster than they anticipated and intended. So it is working as intended that ascended builds take as much time as they do right now.

chuckle

No, it never took as much effort to get exotics as it does to get ascended. However, that’s also due to having so many avenues of acquisition for exotics. Karma, Dungeons, Crafting, straight off the TP…

It’s not quite that simple for ascended. Yes, it’s supposed to take longer, I get that. But it borders on going a bit overboard.

Did you actually play the game in 2012? Exotic gear actually cost more in the first 3 months to craft or buy on the tp than now. And there wasnt that much gold floating around in the first place, so coughing up 4g for an exotic zerker greatsword was alot of money, considering that you got an average of 1 gold for 100 gems in 2012, now you get 6g. It also wasnt easy to farm gold those days as it is now and getting 42k for a single piece of gear took quite a while. Dungeon runs also looked quite a bit different then and took some time as most people were still in masterwork or rare gear and didnt have a clue what they were doing.

Nat.4029:

I like the idea of account-wide dyes, and to add to your “hairstyle” ideas… I think a cool addition to the Gem Shop would be to add an account bound “Hairstylist” that can be conjured (with unlimited uses) and this stylist would have all hairstyles, plus the new ones added in the makeover kit (plus colors). They could sell this for say…800-1000 gems and each use costs a certain amount to use. Maybe 1 gold per use. For an indecisive person like myself, I’m constantly wanting to change my character’s appearance…I would DEFINITELY buy something like this.

Considering that the Permanent Hair Stylist Contract (unlimited uses) has its highest bid at 2500 Gold on the Trading Post, 800-1000 gems for an item like that is quite unrealistic.

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

Wanze.8410:

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

I don’t have an issue with soul bound gear. That’s pretty standard across these types of games. I would like to see a better implementation of easily swapping out the stats on a set of armor. This way we don’t necessarily have to invest an arm, a leg, and our first born child into obtaining more than one set. Mainly thinking ascended here, since my husband when thru and broke everything down and tallied it all up across our characters.

When i hit lvl 80 about a month after release, it took me at least another month, if not longer, to gather enough gold/karma/etc. to get my first full exotic set and the next ones also needed their time. I didnt hear anybody complaining back then that its too hard to gear up different alts in multiple exotic builds.

Just because exotic sets are easy to come by now doesnt mean the same should apply for ascended gear.

Exotics are much easier to get, although sometimes the t6 materials can be a wicked kitten if you don’t have the gold to just buy them. But there is a huge discrepancy between the availability of exotics vs the availability of ascended. You built karma to obtain your exotics. At the present time, ascended can only be crafted, and the leveling of that crafting can be extremely expensive. Drastically more so than a single set, or even several sets of exotics.

I was comparing to exotic gear when the game launched and the months after, when they were best in slot. At that time, it nearly took as much effort to get a full set as it is now with ascended. And Anet stated that the player base got exotics way faster than they anticipated and intended. So it is working as intended that ascended builds take as much time as they do right now.

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

I don’t have an issue with soul bound gear. That’s pretty standard across these types of games. I would like to see a better implementation of easily swapping out the stats on a set of armor. This way we don’t necessarily have to invest an arm, a leg, and our first born child into obtaining more than one set. Mainly thinking ascended here, since my husband when thru and broke everything down and tallied it all up across our characters.

When i hit lvl 80 about a month after release, it took me at least another month, if not longer, to gather enough gold/karma/etc. to get my first full exotic set and the next ones also needed their time. I didnt hear anybody complaining back then that its too hard to gear up different alts in multiple exotic builds.

Just because exotic sets are easy to come by now doesnt mean the same should apply for ascended gear.

oZii.2864:

I saw a post of someone saying this doesnt work anymore today. Can anyone confirm?

Can you link the post?

Astralporing.1957:

mtpelion.4562:

Astralporing.1957:

PvE Players complain about Gift of Exploration requiring going into WvW. Devs make Gift of battle even more WvW-dependant.
Ah, the logic…

This is a good change. Legendary weapons should require participation in all aspects of the game.

Then i suggest making a minimum AP requirements as well. Is 10k enough? Or maybe we should go higher?

Sarcasm doesnt bring you any further to rank 30.

I would suggest to post in this topic, as it is often reviewed by devs:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/bltc/List-Of-Things-We-Want-In-Gemstore/first

shmits.3928:

What I propose it is that there is an available racial kit of transformation for those who wishes use it and those who wishes to keep their character as it stands is not to oblige to buy it.

Roughly: Have the possibility of choosing to change or not.

Personally, the race is a component of the character, as its class, its name, its sex, its haircut, his guild etc…

Wait, who ever mentioned mandatory race changes?

I know that real life comparisons with a game should always be taken with a grain of salt but right now it is possible to change your character, your class/profession, your name, your haircut, even your sex in real life.

But a race change? Only 1 person pulled it off and we all know how Michael Jackson ended up.

Rouven.7409:

I probably liquified those amounts at that time … but heh, who keeps receipts.

The bar man does keep receipts. The bail bondsman also.

mtpelion.4562:

Still running tests. So far the Watchwork Pick has returned 0 bonus ores. The acquisition rate of sprockets though… those things will absolutely never gain any value with these picks in the game.

Considering that every exotic zealot armor and weapon item needs 500 sprockets and every trinket 750, you are looking 8750 sprockets for a whole set.

Then you still have the jubilee recipes which are profitable to craft.

I am quite certain they will rise again, once the first OP zealot builds are discovered.
I bought 50 stacks of sprockets for 20c in september and sold some when they rose to 1s. What i had left, i refined now into mechanisms which saves me lots of space.
I also invest in buying new mechanism and exquisite sprockets now as they are available and nearly 50% crafting value right now.

You dont have to participate in wvw to gain rank 30, as you can buy ranks with laurels.
Maybe we can buy map completion or dungeon tokens soon with badges?
Good change.

Magnus Steelgrave.6580:

Yeah I would love to see it and it SEEMS easy enough to implement in several ways… Probably won’t ever happen though…boggles my mind why anet would bypass all the money people are willing to spend on it though.

Propably becaue they think the projected profit wouldnt cover the expenses, even though you make an opposite claim.

I dont think it ever was on sale.

Y´all chill out and farm some silk…

My Quaggan Finisher also doesnt drop Watchwork Sprockets, when i use it.

Please fix.

Merlin Dyfed Avalon.5046:

Next: Rytlock Brimstone & Evon Gnashblade

Locking Horns!

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/balance

Darkobra.6439:

The tin foil hats only work after you microwave them.

We work just fine without microwaves on the Royal Terrace.

pswendel.8179:

Wanze.8410:

pswendel.8179:

Collecting sprockets kills Rangers, an already endangered species. Protect your ranger friends by kicking them from dungeon runs so they survive!

I have no Ranger friends.

Because Quaggan Killed them All? Cooo…

They ran into their own traps, then their pets ate them.

Lord Kuru.3685:

Behellagh.1468:

Yes but I’m not or ever been in favor is speed leveling. An RPG is meant to by played as an exploration/adventure game, not a spreadsheet of optimal builds, fast leveling, speed runs and even “best farms”.

Except MMO players in general have been conditioned to play only one way with Flavor of the Month builds and choosing content solely on ROI calculations to minimize time while maximizing reward because in reality they don’t want to play the whole game anymore because all the good stuff is at max level/zones right?

It’s like reading a who done it and you jump to the end as soon as the crime is discovered. It’s like the episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation when Data and Geordi were playing Holmes and Watson on the holodeck. Data kept solving the adventure 30 seconds after it starts instead of going through it. The notion that there is a quantitative “best way” to play drives me nuts.

This thread isn’t about earning enough to buy linen at it’s current value, it’s about why it got there and how to fix it.

If you’re not on your first or second character, then leveling is boring. The hearts, the DEs, the vistas are all the same as at launch. And it’s not as if you need 80 levels to learn and explore your profession — the number of skills each character has access to is very small; the number of combinations of those skills is small as well.

And if you mainly play WvW, it’s an awful experience waiting for your new toon to finally get up to 80.

That’s why I champ farm all the way up.

How much hours does it take to champ farm to 400?

pswendel.8179:

Collecting sprockets kills Rangers, an already endangered species. Protect your ranger friends by kicking them from dungeon runs so they survive!

I have no Ranger friends.

Donari.5237:

It’s not just EotM — you can crash when all you’re doing is typing in Map chat in Lornar’s Pass while someone else far away is entering EotM! The Mists are all around us, seeping in, cutting us off from the world …. /paranoid head swivel.

The Royal Terrace stands unaffected by the Mist!

I looged into EOTM and got 100 Gold, must be my lucky day.

Never bought gems with money but close to 40k with gold.

My Love for You is like a truck, Berserker!

Farming Flats.5370:

Yes , but to obtain the Gift of Quaggan Watchwork sprockets you must stomp 250 times each class.

Cooocooo ooo

Fair enough, already got 250 Rangers.

Hi ArenaNet,

I love the new Cute Quaggan Finisher but I just stomped some people with it and it didnt give me any Watchwork Sprockets.

Is that working as intended?

+1 for effort.

But its not gonna happen. Explaination in the various other threads on this topic-

Use your mini map.

Dondarrion.2748:

Actually, I don’t necessarily miss the Wings of the Sunless, but I’d kill for crystalline Wings of the Branded or something like that. Purplish, crystalline wings to go well on a mesmer

Or forget about all the purple and let me change the purple hue on my mesmer to another colour! (ed. although that’s an entirely different topic!)

Unfortunately Hylek Hue Potions dont affect Backpieces:

zamalek.2154:

Wanze.8410:

Porous Bones are Soulbound on Acquire and I dont know what they have to do with Immobulus.

Did you leave your sense of humor at home?

I am at home…

;)

zamalek.2154:

It seems as though Porous Bones are more rare than Giant Eyes. Indeed they are more rare than most T6 mats. <Rubs hands>

Porous Bones are Soulbound on Acquire and I dont know what they have to do with Immobulus.

Anasurimbor.5763:

C’mon now, I’m not sayin’ I have like 150 stacks of sweaters I bought super cheap for next year, but…

I totally do.

Don’t give ’em any ideas, lol.

To buy wintersday gifts that drop more sweaters?

Neural.1824:

187 crucial T6 mats out of 1500 bags. I’d say I’m shocked at how low it is, but I’m not. Not anymore.

Thats actually a pretty good ratio, i am hovering around 1 t6 mat from every 100th Heavy moldy Bag.

Cassocaster.4576:

Wanze.8410:

Did you put in buyorders for the bags or bought directly?

The lowest buy offer was 2 copper below the current sell price, there was no gap so I just bought them. They averaged about 5.8 silver per bag (1500 bags @ 87 gold). This was an experiment about the drop rates and not about making money, I am actually glad I didn’t lose more, I was set to lose about 10 as an acceptable amount for the test.

Ah, ok. Its never a good sign, if buy order and sell listing are so close together.

We propably gonna end up with a harvesting sickle that gives extra t5 leather or ugly wool sweaters.

Cassocaster.4576:

Follow up as well. Everything sold from the bags AT A LOSS of 6 gold. That’s not that bad for the amount of data I got. Considering it’s a RNG engine, that’s within 10% of purchase price AND I lost 15% to BLTP. Those out there that say flipping is bad for the economy, my loss makes your money stronger, if only microscopically.

Without the fees the gross sale and the actual items cost break even so I got the value I paid but with no time to allow the mats to grow value, they sold immediately for the loss.

Based on 1499 bags opened, my drop rate is slightly higher with what ANet says it should be. At .002% (2 tenths of 1%), that works out to 2 per thousand bags…..

Did you put in buyorders for the bags or bought directly? I bought 4k Heavy Loot bags yesterday at 3.5s
140g invested, sold the loot for 170g after fees and taxes, 30 min work.

5% Listing Fee (non refundable) and 10% Sales Tax (deducted from the profit, once the item is sold).

Cassocaster.4576:

Wanze.8410:

Large Moldy Bags only drop t5 fine mats, no tier 4. Medium Moldy Bags drop t4 and t5.

Is there a link to the breakdown? I had thought they just tiered downward, overlapping, as the heavy ones do. More research needed, man there is a lot to this game.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Container

Keep in mind though, that not all loot tables are stated accurate. I got more than a dozen items dropping from various bags that were not listed on their loot tables on the wiki. Also, alot of containers arent covered at all on the wiki.

One bag actually drops lemongrass but there are not many of it on the TP. I forgot which one it was, as i only opened 50 of it that i got over 2 weeks of posting the highest bid. I made some profit of those bags but as the lowest seller was ~5 times higher than the highest bid and considering the low droprate, it was just not worth putting in buy orders. Might have been one of the Skritt Shinies or the Treat Sack (which isnt even listed on the wiki)
If the droprate of Giant Eyes isnt high enough for you, just go out in the world and try to find the Inquest Asurans that drop Bags of Laboratory Material, which currently has 37 buy orders sitting at over 1.5g (11g lowest seller), then buy giant eyes from the profit.

Khisanth.2948:

Chances might not be too bad if people actually bothered to complete them. Hopefully that won’t become the case for the zealot’s stuff as well after tomorrow’s patch.

As the Marionette event will stay at least through the next update, those will still drop.
Not sure though, if they will still be obtainable once the marionette is gone.
I bought and keep buying recipes to sell for a premium in 6 months.

Even after the nerf, zerker will still be the best dps set, just not by such a margin anymore.

Transforms you in a tree, bush or flower.

Cassocaster.4576:

I am going to do this again with the same number of large moldy bags and see, those will have tier 4 and 5, again, leaning towards the lower tier 2 times out of 3. I will post the results and clean it up so all you see are the bags and the contents, first time at this sort of thing.

Large Moldy Bags only drop t5 fine mats, no tier 4. Medium Moldy Bags drop t4 and t5.

Julischka Bean.7491:

Darn. After reading this whole thread and watching the hysteria build higher and higher, I think the Devs are not saying anything because they are afraid to say anything.

Despite what I said in an earlier thread about people wanting to become Sprocket trillionaires when the quantity of sprockets in the trading house dry up, I do know you all are afraid, some quite terrified, that Anet will keep on adding Pay To Win extras in future gathering tools.

I am an older Player. As such, I have learned somethings are just not worth getting in a stew about. I have seen my parents get older, I have seen my better half have a stroke and almost die, My beloved cat did die…This pick, and the threat of future gathering tools with perks in the gem store, to me, is not something to lose sleep over.

If worse comes to worse and Anet does indeed put infinite gathering tools with small perks in the gem store then you all will do one of two things. You will either ragequit, or you will put on your big boy/girl pants and deal with it…maybe skip going out for lunch one day and bring a sack lunch. At today’s prices, the cost of a lunch is darn near the cost of a gathering tool.

Anet, what you can do to calm people in this thread, at least I think it will help calm people, is change the drop tables of all the gathering tools to include sprockets and whatever other goodies you add to future tools.

And come out and talk to us. I think you need to.

Lisa-Pensive

Im sorry about your cat.

Sinbold.8723:

I have no clue about coding or how difficult it would be to implement, but WHY is there no 5 guildies vs 5 guildies in sPvP? It seems like it would be an easy thing to do because there are already 5 person teams in PvP. So why is it we cannot make a 5 person team of our guild members to match up against another guild?

You can do that with a private arena.

Another quick question about guild halls (never played GW1):

What features did guild halls have that i dont have on the Royal Terrace?