Guild Wars 2

Yeah, they didn’t say “Soon”. They said “Noon”. Noon is a pretty specific time, it only occurs once a day.

I am not surprised, considering they kept saying the halloween stuff would start on a certain day, and actually meant “As late as possible on that day”.

But this time they gave us a set time, repeatedly, including reassuring us today. It’s now half an hour late. Is it a world crisis? No, but it’s stupid, and it’s disappointing. Sometimes people set time aside for stuff like this. That time I’ve set is running out. Thank you for giving us a bunk time, once again.

No, they’ve said multiple times, today included, that the content and big patch go live today at Noon PST, but the events start tomorrow.

20 minutes ago?

Edit: 45 minutes ago?

Or am I confused?

If the map change is via walking.

Obviously using a waypoint should remove stacks, because if it didn’t, people could one-shot stuff in low level zones and then warp over to Cursed Shore.

But if I’m killing things and I’ve got 25 stacks built up and I walk one map over, it sucks that I have to do it all over again to regain those stacks.

Nels the Cornwhisperer.8025:

WeLoveKanjimari.6725:

40 slots is two bank tabs or half of your inventory.

That.

Is.

Asinine.

Bank tabs are 30 slots. The fact that you didn’t know how big they are leads me to believe that you probably don’t really pay much attention to your bank.

Can you put 40 items in 30 slots?

I don’t think you can. Ergo, storing 40 items requires TWO BANK TABS, AND REQUIRES YOU TO PAY MONEY.

And when logging in, PLEASE take us to the page we were trying to access, instead of the front page of the forums.

I keep clicking links on reddit only to find that I’ve been logged out, again, and upon logging in I can’t access what I was linked to because it redirected me to a login screen so I have to go find the link again.

40 slots is two bank tabs or half of your inventory.

That.

Is.

Asinine.

If you’re going to charge us 7.50 for extra bank slots, the LEAST you could do is put all crafting materials into the collections tab instead of only base materials.

I am so sick of all this crap taking up constant inventory space.

This is such a basic and ridiculous design flaw. Please give these things their own space in Collections.

Okay, then any other skill. If you fail to cast, the cooldown is lowered.

If you fail to cast Mirror Image, the cooldown is not lowered.

Ergo, that is stupid, and the cooldown on Mirror Image should be lowered if it was not cast.

Mesmer Staff skill 2 summons a clone. If you are outside of enemy range, the cooldown is shortened because the cast failed.

Mesmer skill “Mirror Image” has a cooldown of over 30 seconds. If you cast it while outside of enemy range, the cooldown is not shortened whatsoever.

This is disparate and extremely annoying, especially playing greatsword where your best damage is done just at the very edge of being out of range.

I hope you realize that when you say “everybody” is getting them, you’re…well, being ridiculous.

You see 3 people say “omg I got one of the halloween weapons from the chest!”. How many people did you see who didnt get one?

Hint: It’s a billion, because those people didn’t say anything. If the chat was empty except for 3 people mentioning finding a scythe staff, that doesn’t mean everybody who walks into Ascent to Madness walks out with one of these items.

They are rare.

They are EXCEPTIONALLY rare. They are rare even if you do the thing 50 times.

This community needs to stop and take a minute before freaking out over every tiny little kitten thing.

Those who do not get one of the weapons during this event will craft them later and it will take them effort. The fact that someone else found one doesn’t make that any different.

By the way, not every one of these dropping items is craftable. In fact, most of the halloween weapons aren’t.

Yes I would love a word on it

Stop complaining about “no good rewards”.

I’m sorry, but where else in the game can you reliably open a chest every 10 minutes?

Is this today? Part of Act 3? Or what?

I’m so proud that I’m gonna get all the achievements for my first ever guild wars holiday event but I’m panicking a bit about this one!

I have an Astigmatism and as a result, the blue text immediately above the white text is impossible for me to read half the time. It’s mostly a blur that I really have to struggle to read, or just move my whole body closer to the screen.

A simple space between would help a lot.

It’s probably just a cutscene.

Cyric.7485:

I don’t want to be “that guy” but can we please not endorse the “it’s too hard for me specifically, it needs nerfing” mentality?

I get that it has limited availability and I get because of that you want to succeed before it’s no longer available. However, the achievement for completing the puzzle doesn’t count towards anything besides your achievement score. So if you’re unable to achieve success then it shouldn’t be lowered to your level and thus cheapened as an achievement, especially if a large amount of the community loves the puzzle and is able to complete it with some effort.

You screwed your argument with that last bit.

If “a large amount of the community thinks X” is reason for something to stay the way it is, why isn’t “A larger amount of the community thinks Y” a reason for it to change?

This puzzle is difficult. But it’s not difficult because it was designed that way. It’s difficult as a product of various ridiculous design flaws with the game- not accounting for the fact that everybody is blocking everyone elses view, not accounting for the still broken camera that causes the camera to slam into you, etc.

It’s frustrating. Waiting for it to start over is frustrating. Watching that cutscene every time is frustrating. Being blocked by other players is frustrating. HAving no sense of your own positioning is frustrating. These are not “Challenging” things- they are frustrating things, and there’s no way you truly believe they are “difficulty” and not “unacceptable design flaws”?

Can you really tell me, with sincerity, that you think “I can’t tell where I am or where I’m going to be in a puzzle all about those two things” is “challenging game design” and not “jacked up game design”?

You may as well close your eyes and commend the game for being so difficult :P

It’s not even social. All it is is people yelling at inconsiderate norn and charr characters to get out of the room because they’re making it impossible.

Then, assuming they have the empathy for others to leave, you still have trouble, because other people are still making it impossible to get a grasp on your own positioning!

XelNigma.6315:

but it thins out quickly once you get past 1/3 of the puzzle.

Yeah, because all those people in the way cause everybody to die at the part after the explosion.

Which is by far the hardest part to do consistently.

No Walking.6349:

DON’T NERF IT!!! It’s just fine. People need to sop QQ’ing and get better at jumping I finished it in about 15 tries with a massive male norn….anyone should be able to do it.

So you finished it in 15 tries with no characters twice your size blocking your way?

That’s fine and dandy, but a majority fo players are half your size, and struggle to see past you. You have/had an advantage.

Meeghell.4591:

WeLoveKanjimari.6725:

Been trying for two hours.

I could do it just fine if it weren’t for the ENORMOUS CHARR AND NORN IN THE WAY at the start.

Once everyone dies off it’s all on me. But the sheer constant frustration of starting over, having to wait for everyone else, and then dying 10 seconds in because a charr or a norn are in the way and in the room and refuse to get out of the way is absolutely mind-blowingly awful.

What’s your point? You want Norns and Charrs to just give up their attempt so you could happily do yours?

Yeah, actually. They know they’re in the way and they refuse to care. That sucks.

Aexrael.5918:

Tick tock, the mouse went up the clock, with a group of other mice.

The group aspect adds to the difficult rating, and rightfully so. It would be a lot less stressing if there weren’t other players around, most notably giant norn male characters. It adds both a competitive angle, as well as a distraction, they shouldn’t make this a solo instance.

If you are norn or charr, you have a distinct and absolute advantage, while giving other players a disadvantage.

In something that isn’t competitive.

Healerith.5921:

Is that all you people do is complain about things? They do not need to redo their content every single time because some people have a problem with some aspect of it.

People wouldn’t have problems with it if it was tested first.

Missing the first basic jumps because a charr or norn is in the way would’ve been discovered immediately if they had tested with groups. So I do not believe that they tested this with charr and norn in groups.

Wreave.2138:

This isn’t just a problem with the event — its a problem with the testing approach.

Yep. Far as I can tell Anet just simply does not test things with properly sized groups.

Does everyone have to succeed to win? Are there switches multiple people need to hit? Are there things that kill you and require other players to be around to res you from? Is it PvPish or Roller Beetle Race-y and rewards bigger prizes to people that finish fastest?

No, no, no, and no.

There’s literally no reason for groups except to make the entire thing that much more frustrating.

Been trying for two hours.

I could do it just fine if it weren’t for the ENORMOUS CHARR AND NORN IN THE WAY at the start.

Once everyone dies off it’s all on me. But the sheer constant frustration of starting over, having to wait for everyone else, and then dying 10 seconds in because a charr or a norn are in the way and in the room and refuse to get out of the way is absolutely mind-blowingly awful.

The geometry bits are annoying too.

The thing is, this is a jumping puzzle. This was BUILT to be hard, and BUILT to be a skill challenge of jumping.

But it’s not a skill challenge when your jumps or movement are blocked by little foot wide pieces of scenery. It’s forced/false difficulty, and it’s aggrivating.

Same goes for camera issues and other players being in the way. These things need to be changed.

I can only hope this tower is permanent so we dont have to sit here for hours until we get to the top (Only to not know where to go, as people are finding out once they get there! You can’t even complete it once you get to the top, because it was designed as a trick, or something, according to one of the devs.)

Joey.3928:

I’m sure it was an oversight on their end then. In some way.

Maybe they want players to cooperate with each other and time it all out so people aren’t on top of each other? But I guess that is difficult with 10 random people.

Okay, you guys, if you go slow, you die.

There is a cloud rising as you go up the tower. You touch it, you die. You cannot “time” anything. It is a race. You must be constantly moving at all times or you will die.

There is no excuse for this. They knew people had to be in close quarters to do this. Hence my assumption that they did not test this with a group. If they had, somebody would’ve noticed this is a huge problem.

Or maybe I just need to try it with a character that isn’t a Norn.

Yes. There is no problemf or YOU, because you are twice the size of everyone else and thus can SEE yourself.

How many people in the instance? I am not understanding the issue. Are people standing on top of each other? Why not have everyone spread out and not together?

Like, 10. Theya re on each other. It is a race. If you go too slow you die as you go up the tower. So everyone HAS to be on top of each other to make it along the way.

What happens to those that did complete it though?

All players wait in the lobby until everyone fails.

Joey, the clock tower is instanced. You are split into small random groups to do it. When every person fails, it starts over.

It is not physically possible to do it without other people being around. The only way that would be possible would be to be the very last person in the game doing it.

Or it needs to be a solo instance.

Removed ~ Dalmarus

So let me be constructive: Remove the groups, make it solo.

If you cannot see where you are, you cannot see where you will land.

The kitten thing is beautiful and awesome, but there’s no way this was tested with 4 charr and 2 norns in the way.

In other words, freaking awesome event, awesome jumping puzzle, but I really, sincerely, severely doubt you guys bothered to test it with a group. Please remove the grouping system or make it solo or something, because this is absolutely impossible when you cannot see where your character is. I cannot imagine how the Asura feel.

I know you guys are getting a lot of complaints bout this whole thing but this time it’s definitely justified. There’s no way to SEE. You created a timed, fail-able event that requires being able to see what you’re doing, but you made it in such a way that most of your players are going to be blocked by giant charr.

I’d actually consider suggesting that groups be based on player race. Humans/Sylvari in one group, Charr/Norn in another, and Asura by themselves.

My character is a Human wearing all bright pink. Can you find him?

Seems like a no-brainer. Instead of wandering around a mountain for 10 minutes just let me see where the kitten cave is.

Everyone knows how to get there free. Please read threads before responding to them. At the very least, read the opening post. :\

Everyone goes to the Heart of the Mists to get there for free anyway.

Save everyone time and frustration and just make it free. It should be obvious by now that not one person enjoys spending 2 silver to get to the biggest commercial hub in the game.

Is anyone else seeing that the guy in the first post got A UNIQUE HALLOWEEN SKIN, and yet feels disappointed?

I would’ve been stoked to get a single skin regardless of whether or not I wanted it.

Dude, you got a skin. That’s what we were opening chests for. You have nothing to complain about.

karma.8763:

They wouldnt be unique if they were just …..available now would they?

They’re not unique anyway.

In an MMO, “Unique” means “Obtainable in specific ways, not dropped by enemies or farmable”.

These skins are unique. They’d continue to be unique if people could just plain buy them.

Nobody gives a crap if only 5 people have them. Nobody’s in it to look cooler than everyone else. People just want THEIR character to look cool. If you’re worried about “But if everyone has them, I won’t be special” that’s your problem. The reason everyone wants them is for their characters, not to look special to everyone else. They want to look special to themselves, which they will, even if they are available for everybody.

I dont really understand why a stronger axe is required to mine, say, platinum, but said axe is just as weak against being used on copper.

I am not wasting bank space on these ingredients.

If the recipes involving these items are permanent, we need permanent storage for these things.

Wow!

I had no idea it was just that easy!

With my 2 gold I surely can afford to- oh, wait.

Love this argument. “Just throw money at it!”. Not everybody has the money to throw at it.

ReginaBuenaobra.6953:

Thank you all very much for your feedback about this issue. We’ve already informed the team about all the concerns expressed in this thread, and they’ll look into it. Thanks again.

Wait wait wait.

What does this imply?

They’ll look into the fact that people are kitten off that drop rates are so low that paying the minimum amount of real world cash required to buy keys (10 dollars) doesn’t net a chance at even a single drop?

AFTER we already paid and got nothing? :| That makes me feel a lot less like I wasted my money, yeah.

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Shasow.1492:

STILL waiting. At least give us an ETA so that we can stop waiting.

They did give an ETA.

The 22nd PST.

So that means at the very latest it’ll be out in 4 hours.

Which is just ridiculous. For anyone who actually lives in PST, they get “the 22nd” but it’s actually “as late as possible on the 22nd”, and that’s really awful to do. Never, ever, ever promise something is coming on a certain day and then wait until the very last minute to do it. That’s just mean and it’s shoddy.

And for everyone else…it’s not the 22nd. So it’s bull on their end too.

The misleading timing is what’s making me mad, more than anything. They should not have ever said “The 22nd” if they didn’t mean it. I know, yes, it is still the 22nd where they are for 4 more hours. But that doesn’t mean it isn’t misleading and downright rude.

All they did was get everybody excited for the 22nd, only to make them slowly but surely get kitten off throughout the day. Very bad planning.

As stated on the event page, the Halloween event will go live on October 22, Pacific Time.

As previously messaged earlier today, it will go live later this evening on October 22.

In the future, allow me to recommend NOT saying something will start on X date when in reality you mean “as late as humanly possible on X date”.

Just say it starts the next day. Then when it shows up at the absolute last second of the previous day, people are excited that it came early, instead of mad that they wated ALL DAY and then had to go do freaking bed before the update showed up.

Some stuff only drops from Black Lion Chests.

Those things we have thousands of but nobody has a kitten key for.

Since we don’t really have keys for them unless we throw money at the game or get absurdly lucky like crazy, I am wondering if the chests are the ONLY way to get these things?

I’d agree on that point, but 8PM means I’m at work! I was so excited, not working until late today meant all day to play around with cool new stuff…but…nope. At work. :’(

devi.9863:

Are all of you new to Guild Wars? Almost all events do not trigger until NOON PST. I.E. Not for 6 hours or so yet, this has been Anets standard since they are a Pacific Coast USA company, they have always used PST as the time for their servers. I was going to be excited if it was updated while I slept last night, but I knew it wasnt going to be the case. Just nut up and wait. Go to work, school, sleep whatever. It’s gonna be there eventually. SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many threads on this and it seems like nobody came from Guild Wars 1.

They’ve already said not to expect anything until past midnight in europe.

Midnight in europe is not until 5PM PST. Five! PM! So late in the day!

17 hours after everybody expected it to launch.

Keep in mind that your frustration here could’ve been prevented had Anet bothered to actually communicate about this instead of give a date and leave it at that. Nobody knows when it starts. You cannot claim to know. You cannot use “It worked this way in GW1, therefore it will work this way here, too”. NOBODY knew when it was supposed to start, yourself included.

Therefore, people are confused, because “Digital release on the 22nd” doesn’t really come off as “Digital release late in the day for literally everybody”.

Instead of a vague date, and giving us two different dates (Both the 22nd and the 23rd in this case), give us an actual ETA.

It doesn’t mtater if it’s 100% accurate.

But anything is better than “Get ready for this event on the 22nd!” followed by “Well, by the 22nd, we meant extremely late in the day on the 22nd. So late that in some places it’s the 23rd.”

We got all excited for a big update on the 22nd and now today (the day of the event) we’re being told not to expect the update until after the regular time the daily events reset. For me, personally, that’s 8PM. 8PM! Nobody hears “This digital event starts on the 22nd” and thinks “Oh cool I better not get excited until 7PM!”. :\

Basically, vagueness is aggrivating. Vagueness followed by shattered expectations is even worse! If you had this information (the event will start so late in the day that it’s going to start past midnight in europe), you should have given it to us well before the actual date of the event.

Obviously it’s not the biggest deal in the world but any disappointment is still a disappointment and I feel this one could’ve been pretty much avoided with a little more communication.

There’s a skill you can “buy” that immediately summons two clones. I never used to use it, but lately I’ve gotten some nice traits and stuff (double hits for winds of chaos every single time as long as I or an enemy is near my target? hell yes.) so I want to try it again, assuming that the answer to my question is yes.

Unfortunately I do so many conditions on my own I’m having a hard time testing whether or not these clones are applying conditions.

Are they? Up until now I’ve just used 2 (Summons a clone that uses Winds of Chaos), then using it again once its cooldown was over, and using 3 (summons a phantasm that does more damage the more unique conditions an enemy is suffering from) as my third illusion.

If I can speed the step of getting two clones dealing CONSTANT conditions to enemies up to taking only one single second…then, well, kitten I’ll be kicking kitten

I just can’t quite tell if that’s what they’re doing or not.

_They were constantly changing up until ship for balance and polish. This means some of the descriptions are just out of date. Also, each time a number is changed within the text, it needs to get localized again. This means it’s more efficient to make them a little more vague to lessen the localization cost and protect ourselves if that number needs to change again. _

So, for POLISHING purposes, these things were left vague and inconsistent?

And how much can it possibly cost to change a number on something over a bunch of languages? You make it sound like it saves tons and tons of money to simply NOT give trait details, simply because if that number changes, it’s gonna cost 1k per change of a number or something.

Basically, these arguments for why traits are inconsistent and devoid of information don’t make much sense at all.

GW1 let you drag and scale every element of the UI.

In GW2, you can scale the map, chat box, and swap the map and quest info positions.

And that’s it.