Guild Wars 2

Let’s lighten the thread a bit shall we?

I had fun last night in NSP’s BL. There was apparently a fight at Greenbriar between NSP and SF so I did the logical thing and used a Doylak tonic and ran right through the middle of it. I almost got through but you guys saw through my disguise. :C

Arrow Storm.4618:

finally got a dye ensemble that works out and isn’t the typical black/white choices. kinda went for a tropical succulent plant look

hands down my favorite armor in the game. worth every gold coin

Do you mind if I ask what colors you used for your armor? It’s so beautiful I simply must try it for myself.

Dogskins.1259:

No Rose, nooooooo!

Besides, I’m the better black human. I have no problem standing literally right in front of anyone, no dodge or anyone, and fighting them. Besides, I got a sexy beard.

hahaha I remember you just face tanking those three ele’s while I ran around being useless the other night. xD That was hilarious.

To the SF thief, black human male, that shadow stepped around our BL tonight. Maybe try and stand and fight me eh? Let’s see that skill your server always boasts about, cause all I’m getting when I find one of you alone is that you’ve all practiced hard in the art of running away. ~

Please children back to your respective corners.

Nightly kudos goes to the NSP mesmer I fought outside the HoD garrison by the sentry. You took out a lot of my allies, and myself while on my underleveled thief, so I came back on my mesmer for a little revenge. It was a really fun fight, we both went down and I was able to win thanks to my glassy rouge. Hope we meet again ~

KyoHanakaze.8145:

I think outmanned might be broken.

I’m in two of those! Gosh I’m so pretty ~

First off I wanted to welcome SF to the tier! It’ll be fun having a new match-up.

And as per usual, I like to give shout outs to players I fight that are just really awesome. Again I forgot the guild tag unfortunately, but it was a female SF thief by Greenbriar on SF’s Borderlands. I was on my sylvari ele and she just destroyed me. I got away (mist form op) but I think I maybe hit her with one spell the entire fight. Hats off to you miss thief.

I have a feeling I’ll have many more shout-outs this week. Best of luck everyone ~

With culling gone things are a lot better. Now that the thief actually loads on your screen you should be able to handle them. I still die to thieves pretty often don’t get me wrong, but that’s because sometimes the thief is just better than I am.

I think I read somewhere that it was “Caught and Trained”, but that’s probably just a guess.

Sororita your engineer is really awesome looking, I love your armor.

Also, I can’t remember the guild tag but there was this NSP thief that was really impressive tonight while we were in their BL. The guild was something like “The R——” That’s all I can remember, but it was a human male and he had a blue book I think on his back, definitely had Order of Whispers hood on. Anyway just wanted to say he was really impressive, weaving through our numbers and just picking off people. I like giving props to good players.

I’m sure there are decent people in all guilds and all servers, but it’s people who go out of their way simply to be a nuisance that really brings down the reputation of more than just the people in question. I suppose it’s too much to ask for people to act with a sliver of maturity.

Ah the internet, always where the classiest of people roam ~

gimmethegepgun.1284:

So swinsk, the ever-reliable champion of telling people to l2p instead of trying to get anet to fix a problem, is trying to get anet to fix a problem.

haha I actually logged in just to say this.

I think for once it’s time for thieves to have to l2p. This change has really separated the thieves who knew their class well from the thieves who abused a mechanic. Stealth was always meant to be used tactically, this 4th second forces you to actually have to plan your fights as opposed to just spam stealth. Besides, with the amounts of shadow steps and other tricks we have, that one more second really shouldn’t be the end of the world. Unless of course you were a bad thief.

I’ve always wanted to say this, but l2p

Edit: So I said that the 4th second shouldn’t be affecting you too badly, and people are like “Whiterose you’re so dumb the 4th second shouldn’t be affecting you too badly.”

I’m sorry for the wrongness of my post.

GoM, I hope you give that guild RH serious props everyday. They are probably the most annoyingly coordinated and persistent guild I’ve faced from your server.

Much respect ~

Spets the MilkBandit.9031:

WhiteRose.6934:

I can state with moderate certainty that it was not a planned “double team” on NSP. I logged in for a bit to try out the new no culling patch and we were defending a tower from GoM, so apparently those two zergs didn’t know about this team-up.

Please see the screenshots posted of HoD and GoM zergs standing next to each other not attacking, and a player from HoD posting here that he/she is ashamed from their own server.

There isn’t much I can tell from the picture other than lots of red names. But I do see the post, and I stand by my statement that it was not planned, at the very least not by the majority. I’ll throw some other thoughts at you.

A) Why blame the server in it’s entirety for actions of a few? I myself was caught in this same spot one time. Members of a server used an exploit to take a keep, and I went on a tirade saying how the entire server was to blame. Is that right? No. There are both good and bad people on the servers, a small sample does not represent the total. As a side note, we’ve had more than our share of transfers lately, I wouldn’t be surprised if we had some people coming in simply to ruin the reputation of the server. As I said, both good and bad people everywhere.

B) It’s war. It’s a game. If the perceived best course of action for two sides mutual gain is to team up, then that’s going to happen. As I said, when I did log in we were fighting GoM, so obviously we weren’t just ignoring each other as you claim.

I see your frustration and understand it, but it’s foolish and childish to create such drama over this. The majority of people I’ve met in gw2 are grown adults, please act like it.

And move on for goodness sake.

Guys this is getting a little out of hand. Let’s keep some things in mind shall we?

A) This is just a game. How WvW goes is not going to help you get the girl, not going to get you a job, not going to feed your families. It’s ridiculous to take this so seriously. Just have fun yes?

B) Any one side is going to be double teamed. What do you expect? Everyone to attack the server to their left and just go in a circle? Grow up a bit please. I’m always on BL defense and I can list the times we’ve had to defend against breakouts from both opposing servers. It sucks, but it happens.

I haven’t been on so far this week, nor was I on much last week, but I do keep up to date on what goes on at least on our end. I can state with moderate certainty that it was not a planned “double team” on NSP. I logged in for a bit to try out the new no culling patch and we were defending a tower from GoM, so apparently those two zergs didn’t know about this team-up.

Life is a lot more fun when you stop trying to see the evil in everything and everyone.

Bllade.1029:

Hello HoD! Just transferred from Darkhaven to you guys and look forward to fighting for you in some competitive WvW!

For anyone who cares, I brought [ApeX] a smaller guild more focused on squad composition and tactics rather than zerging. See you on the field!

[ApeX]

Welcome to HoD ~ I don’t know if I remember seeing ApeX back when we faced DH, but regardless it’s wonderful to have you. You’ll see me running around generally being optimistic and fabulous, and if you want to be fabulous as well just ask. It’s the fun way to do things.

Personal advice here.

I would recommend staying at least with a party. This doesn’t mean you need to follow around an entire zerg (although this would be helpful if you just wanted to lvl faster/easier) Thieves are indeed very good in 1v1, but one thing to keep in mind is that most roamers tend to be lvl 80’s with full exotic (if not ascended) gear looking for underlevels such as yourself to make them feel pro. Sticking with at least a party of maybe guildies or just friends solves this issue.

As for playstyle, I would recommend shortbow at least, even using pistols if you’re so inclined. Being ranged in wvw while underleveled is a lot easier than trying to play assassin when your set-up is more often than not sub-par to the person you’re trying to assassinate. Using any CC you have (traps, blinds, pull, cripple, poisons) all ensures you’re being an asset to the team and getting exp, while staying reletively safe as you will be an easy target and thus a hindrance if you try and jump around like a fully lvl’ed thief would.
And of course remember not to get frustrated. You’re going to die a lot, it’s inevitable. But once you get up there you’ll get them all back. Oh and have fun ~

Any other questions or things I missed feel free to ask.

GenerationX.9178:

WhiteRose.6934:

GenerationX.9178:

I didn’t know where else to ask, but I’ve heard that they are going to nerf cloak and dagger thief skill. As a dagger dagger thief this is really bad for me. I haven’t seen it on the updates but if someone can link me a source to read if they are nerfing it would be great. I think this will effect a lot of thieves in a negative way.

Of course the Thief forum would be a very appropriate place for such a question, but I can help you out.
They are changing stealth so that you get the “revealed” debuff regardless of whether you attack from out of stealth or not. This means that you can no longer just chain stealths to stay perma-invis (on top of them hopefully getting rid of the culling issue)

Whether it’s a nerf or not is up to players. Personally (as in my personal opinion here), when I’m on my thief I’m constantly moving and never chain my stealths together, since I always get revealed due to always attacking to make use of backstab. For thieves that liked to abuse stealth and troll groups of people by just chaining stealths, then yes, it’s a nerf.

If I missed anything about the changes please anyone feel free to add.

Ah ok, you covered it well. I’m not the type to troll zerg all the time (sometime =P). I’m mostly worried its going to make fighting Mesmers and Dagger Dagger Elementalist lot harder were I need to spam stealth but I guess I will just have to adapted and become a better Thief.

I’m sure that both will get toned down as well (coming from someone who mains both, even I know they could use some looking into) If anything think of the changes this way, by weakening the thieves “GTFO” card, they are free to buff them in other ways without making them too strong. That’s how I’ve been thinking about it, as I do have a d/d thief myself.

GenerationX.9178:

I didn’t know where else to ask, but I’ve heard that they are going to nerf cloak and dagger thief skill. As a dagger dagger thief this is really bad for me. I haven’t seen it on the updates but if someone can link me a source to read if they are nerfing it would be great. I think this will effect a lot of thieves in a negative way.

Of course the Thief forum would be a very appropriate place for such a question, but I can help you out.
They are changing stealth so that you get the “revealed” debuff regardless of whether you attack from out of stealth or not. This means that you can no longer just chain stealths to stay perma-invis (on top of them hopefully getting rid of the culling issue)

Whether it’s a nerf or not is up to players. Personally (as in my personal opinion here), when I’m on my thief I’m constantly moving and never chain my stealths together, since I always get revealed due to always attacking to make use of backstab. For thieves that liked to abuse stealth and troll groups of people by just chaining stealths, then yes, it’s a nerf.

If I missed anything about the changes please anyone feel free to add.

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

WhiteRose.6934:

(added for the sake of not making another post) GOM you have some nice attacks in our BL tonight, much respect for whoever is leading you right now. I’m that Sylvari ele you guys can’t seem to kill. Fun fights ~

I recognize ya. We were running a small group. Every time we’d smash down a gate or wall, NSP would jump in right behind us and steal our thunder. :/

Good fights, though. I was the sylvari warrior with dual-Moonshines.

I think I did see you, I remember mentioning to my party your weapons. RH is a really coordinated group, I give you guys props. There is this one warrior, human female I think, white hair, shout warrior, who is IMPOSSIBLE to kill and I always try to get her every time you come into our BL. Thumbs up to you guys ~

To the NSP thief I just fought and killed in HoD Greenvale, the one who tried to burst me down by going 2222222222222222…..maybe you need to learn your class a bit more Sorry I laughed but, c’mon that was funny. Once your spam was done and you switched to shortbow and just auto-attacked, I could feel the frustration that you didn’t get another cheap kill.

<3

PS: why do you keep running now when I find you? :C
(added for the sake of not making another post) GOM you have some nice attacks in our BL tonight, much respect for whoever is leading you right now. I’m that Sylvari ele you guys can’t seem to kill. Fun fights ~

Awesome fights in EB right from the beginning. HoD and NSP fighting at Ogre’s side going on 2 hours.

Did you NSP guys like that mes that kept jumping in and downing your back-line, then getting away? Yeah, I like her too. ~

I love seeing the posts between servers congratulating each other on duels they had. It’s so much fun having a good fight and being able to share it, and it shows really great sportsmanship.

I rarely have those fun fights, too many zergs that rush into my bl, no one comes solo

Dagger offhand, for eles, is their mobile set-up. It means they are choosing to be mobile over whatever the staff (more support/aoe) or focus (defensive stuff) could give them. All classes have different weapon sets and each set gives them access to something different. Everyone complains about the eles mobility with rtl, but I can find something to complain about every weapon for every class that gives them something I don’t like.

If the ele is being “slippery” and running away then you won correct? In sPvP you kicked him off the point, congrats you won. In wvw you stopped him from capturing a camp or something, congrats you won. Just /laugh and hit him right in his pride.

Galsia.4102:

WhiteRose.6934:

If you think I’m referring to using your heal in combination with Centaur runes for swiftness, I’m not. When I said “signet for permanent swiftness” I meant our signet that gives +25% movement.

:-) The more you know ~

He likely didn’t understand what you’re talking about because 25% =/= 33%.

Hmm I actually had forgotten about that. A difference barely noticed but still, a difference none-the-less.

Today I learned :-)

Daecollo.9578:

WhiteRose.6934:

I think it’s a wonderful trait, makes it a lot easier to move around in combat and position yourself. Playing a backstab thief this trait is really useful.

No access to swiftness? Have you just started your thief or just not really thinking clearly? We have a signet for perma swiftness, swiftness on dodge, multiple shadowsteps, thrill of the crime (swiftness on steal), assassin’s retreat (swiftness when you kill something).

I think we’re okay on mobility Considering my two mains are thief and mesmer, I never have to complain about mobility haha

Sorry, but wasting your:

“Heal Skill.” – Used to heal myself when I need healed.
“Dodge Rolls.” – Used to dodge big damage so I don’t die.
“Gap Closer.” – Used to close gaps.

For temporary swiftness, is a horrible idea, the signet has such a slow cast time, you can be interrupted then completely locked out of your heal for 10 seconds.

It can happen. However it is it not practical.

What….are you talking about?

If you think I’m referring to using your heal in combination with Centaur runes for swiftness, I’m not. When I said “signet for permanent swiftness” I meant our signet that gives +25% movement.

:-) The more you know ~

I think it’s a wonderful trait, makes it a lot easier to move around in combat and position yourself. Playing a backstab thief this trait is really useful.

No access to swiftness? Have you just started your thief or just not really thinking clearly? We have a signet for perma swiftness, swiftness on dodge, multiple shadowsteps, thrill of the crime (swiftness on steal), assassin’s retreat (swiftness when you kill something).

I think we’re okay on mobility Considering my two mains are thief and mesmer, I never have to complain about mobility haha

KStudios.2850:

Rhaps.8540:

KStudios.2850:

Chopps.5047:

It’s been asked. It has been answered. The answer is no.

And the answer, is plain unacceptable.

The answer the devs are proposing is making pet more balanced, less buggy, more responsive and easier to micro. I can accept that answer.

Sadly I think you will be waiting a very long time indeed if you want them to reverse their ideas of how the Ranger core mechanic should work. They want it to work for us and they want us to use it. If you don’t like the pet then Ranger really isn’t the class for you I’m afraid.

Good thing there are plenty of other great classes to choose from.

Or for anyone else who likes doing dungeons or high level fractals outside their guilds apparently. Where pets are not welcomed. We will continue to be shunned as outcasts.

Shunned as outcasts? Goodness your life must be so hard. Let’s cut the melodramatics shall we?

I don’t know what game you’re playing where rangers are useless and weak. Whenever I’m in wvw or spvp I always seem to be getting downed by a smug ranger a mile away just chasing me with rapid fire+quickness and a wolf fearing away people that try and save me. And in dungeons I know a ranger who is always in my group who is amazing at their class, and I’ve never heard him complain that his pet was holding him back.

Maybe I’ll try a ranger for a while, I’ve been thinking of leveling a 5th. I’ll try out this terrible class that’s rejected and shunned by society.

wintermute.4096:

WhiteRose.6934:

I actually love having the torch trait where it is, giving myself more power and thus more burst for my surprise Prestige into Blurred Frenzy combo. It’s a lot of fun, as my weapon choice appears defense until I start bursting through health bars.

Think outside the box guys, that’s why we’re mesmers eh? ~

Sometimes, there is a reason people made that box in the first place. Since the phantasm is so awful, you basically trade your phantasm + another utility for a mediocre stealth alone, when the same effect can be achieved by just slotting decoy if you really want it.

But by that logic you’re saying there should only be a set basic way of playing and setting things up, whereas there may be people who think more creatively. The phantasm is underwhelming I’ll give you that (my illusions don’t stick around long enough for me to care), but having another access to stealth (and condition removal) and an aoe burst to compliment shatters aoe + illusionary persona’s aoe with a little blurred frenzy in there I can assure you isn’t something to sneeze at. Then use decoy or blink, or staff #2 to bounce around the fight (to find a new victim) or to escape if need be, and you’ve got yourself a very tricky mesmer.

Obviously I’m not saying that it’s the best set up out there, I’m just saying that there are more creative ways of using what we have then just hitting things with GS #1.

In my condition/confusion set up I put points in the domination line, since there is a trait for glamours causing more confusion that is wondrous with my condition build. Just more ways to break out that mold you’re setting up for yourself.

I actually love having the torch trait where it is, giving myself more power and thus more burst for my surprise Prestige into Blurred Frenzy combo. It’s a lot of fun, as my weapon choice appears defense until I start bursting through health bars.

Think outside the box guys, that’s why we’re mesmers eh? ~

pita spoon.5708:

Aldare.5836:

Sororita.3465:

It just occurred to me, we mustn’t of properly welcomed you NSP guys to tier 7. So here it is.

Welcome to Tier 7, dont forget to enjoy your stay and please, if you can, leave your qq at the door.

Seriously Nsp, you cry foul at everything and gloat at the smallest of things, stop it. HoD can get kittened on all week and i dont hear a single peep out of them. Instead they try harder and do better.

( yeah thats right, i payed HoD a complement, people who know me, amiright?)

Please don’t assume the the entirety of NSP is like this. Every server has this problem in some shape or form.

agreed with this.. its a game so lets have fun playing it..

as for HoD.. they are a small wvw populated server that plays their kitten off.. most are very tough players as they have to play outmanned alot..

Hey thanks for the compliments guys, that means a lot. We do try really hard with what we have, and I’m always very proud of what we manage to pull off. GoM and NSP have made for fun opponents this week, and I have seen many players with some awesome skill throughout our fights.

It’s been a good week. ~

DrixTrix.7168:

why did they remove it? also i was aiming for that sword for one of my mesmer builds looks, is it ONLY available to the whispers order?

Yes, only to Order of Whispers.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Whisper%27s_Secret_Sword

It only does if the mesmer is traited for it, it’s a 10 point trait in the chaos line, usually staff mesmers will go for this if they are running conditions.

Hey ~

The first thing to do when fighting a mesmer is to find the real one. This is relatively easy as the real mesmer moves/dodges/does animations other than auto attacks, and of course the mesmer doesn’t look like a ghost. If the clones start running at you, try and dodge roll into them to avoid the burst or use any skills you can to blow them up before they kill you.

Mesmers have a few common set ups that they will be using. Shatter (burty, usually glass cannon), Conditions (can be more tanky, at least mine is), or a hybrid.

If it’s a shatter then try and avoid their initial burst, the combo is fairly obvious as it usually involves a stun (pistol 5) followed by a clone stabbing your legs (sword 3), a barrage of swords in your face (sword 2) and more than likely while you’re getting pummeled with illusionary lead (pistol phantasm). If you manage to evade that, you’re good for a little bit and should instantly punish them, as they should be pretty glassy and you can do some good damage on them quick. If you can stun break (I think the rifle sounds like a good counter to this with that knock back it has, and maybe even that jump?)

Condition are a little more annoying to deal with, as killing the clones typically will just layer more conditions on you (if traited) and not killing the clones will still layer conditions on you (if staff clones) so I would recommend trying to avoid the clones as best you can and bursting down the mesmer. The one saving grace with condition mesmers is that they don’t do a lot of damage at once, so if you have condition removal in any way, or if you’re tanky, then you can hold out while you fight them.

Probably not the best advice out there, but I play my mesmer basically 99% of my time, have since start, and this is how I handle facing other mesmers. If you want to face a mesmer for practice feel free to find me and we’ll work on it

Hope it helps ~

Mesmers are purple because of Lyssa.

And mesmers were never bards, in any way. Paragons were the bards, mesmers were more like enchantresses and the like. Mesmers that you met throughout GW1 were also more royal or prestigious, such as your tutor in Prophecies. Most of the spells a mesmer cast, if not all, had a purple effect to them. It all goes back to Lyssa being the patron goddess of the mesmers.

Darnis are you using Frenzy and then sending you #3? Or sending the clone, #2, and then swapping? Because the latter works, that’s what I do quite often, but I’m very positive that the initial spell (sending the clone forward) has always cancelled the channel as it’s not an instant-cast like a mantra or Mirror Images.

Musty.3148:

Magiofdeath.2745:

Well, this is definitely a different post – hearing about the experience from the other side (the thief side). Regardless, this will end up in linksville just like the other thief post. I agree with your post though.

Hell, I’ve been saying this for months, I stopped playing my 80 thief because it’s an imbarassingly easy class to curbstomp people with. Any of you kids playing them should be imbarrassed for picking and continuing to play such an imbarrassingly OP class.

I can stealth into a zerg, DPS someone down, restealth, stomp and SB out in about 5 seconds without taking 1 damage. I did it all the time, literally.

If I get into a fight and start getting wrecked, Just TP/SB/Stealth out, reset the fight, go back in and curbstomp the poor fool(s) that used all their cooldowns to try to kill me.

Anyone that is Pro-stealth as is is really just kidding themselves. It’s way out of whack probably because of the culling. But they really need to make a short term fix until they can get culling fixed or it’s going to cost a lot of players.

So much yes and respect for you good sir/miss.

If I, being the worst thief in the entire world (I kid you not) can run around and take down 80’s in wvw with my lvl 30 thief, before they even know I’m there, then it’s a problem.

“Oh it’s so hard to back stab”…….Really? REALLY? I can backstab pretty much anyone I run into. Apparently everyone who plays needs to ‘l2p" except thieves. Our mistake. I don’t even know what button I’m smashing half the time when I use my thief. And it doesn’t matter, cause they don’t even know who’s attacking them yet.

That much utility, and mobility, and stealth and burst all wrapped into one equals a class with no drawbacks and no counters, besides “l2p” of course.

In PvE it’s fine, I even think in sPvP it’s fine because at least they load up for a second before stealthing again, enough to ACTUALLY react. In WvW, when they are never on your screen, I can’t just react to that. I just run, cause I’m not gonna win unless I have like maybe 50 other people with me. Maybe then we can kill him. But probably not. -_-

KyoHanakaze.8145:

Spawn camping at its finest.

I just needed to protect my baby Quaggans :P

Actium, I have screens. And there was multiple instances this one night, of somehow a party getting in without previously breaking in. (yes I know about mesmers, as I happen to main one. Throw at me a reasonable explanation and we’ll talk) I as well have been in contact with some DH members who testify to a known exploit into the keep.

I wouldn’t post if it wasn’t legit. I know my stuff and will stand by what I witnessed.

-Rose

Many thanks to Vex for talking to me privately on this, he has been very cooperative in this matter.

-Rose

Oh I miss that too!! I actually loved how every class had their own way of casting spells and different dances and all that jazz. The twirl definitely made the connection with how mesmers were supposed to be “theatrical” or “dramatic” mages.

I actually miss some of the hexes we used to have. Being able to completely shut people down was so much fun when done correctly (and many of the players who have never played gw1 definitely wouldn’t complain about the mesmer’s here in gw2 if they had faced the mesmer’s that stopped you from activating any skill at all)

I have to disagree. WvW is, in a sense, meant to be imbalanced. You bring what you have to the table and see just what you can do. It’s basically you using what you’ve worked hard for. To be blunt, if you want everything just handed to you then stay in sPvP.

I love both WvW and sPvp, but if they made wvw the same as sPvp then there would be practically no reason for anyone to play PvE.

Sometimes you have to work for things Not everything is handed to you.

Yeah my games tend to look like that, except all thieves instead of warriors.

^ Just couldn’t resist :P

But seriously, sometimes this plays in my head when trying to weave in and out of stealth during a duel. —-→http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnHmskwqCCQ

The only thing I can think of is perhaps the blue is part of the effect from your skin color of choice.

When you wear cultural armor, parts of the armor are going to be a set color based on the skin color you chose, as the sylvari are suppose to have ‘grown’ the armor from their bodies.

The area’s that you have shown with your screens (very helpful by the way) are (I think) the area’s that my own sylvari’s armor is effected. I myself have the same set, as it’s my favorite. My best guess is that it could just be an effect from that, and the combination of colors effecting that preset. The sylvari armor is really unique in how dye effects it. Sometimes using all one color will make is seem like you used multiple for example. It’s suppose to fit that ‘grown in nature’ feel.

Just try moving dye’s around and seeing if anything changes.

Normally I full heartily believe that thieves deserve to be toned down. I made one this weekend, threw together a full glass set, and proceeded to smash buttons in sPvP and do better than I do on my characters that I have hours upon hours of practice on. That’s a little too forgiving if you ask me, and dare I say much less complicated than thief players try and make it seem.

But in this case I will point out (what most people here have already stated) that the mesmer is also glass. No offense, but when the match-up becomes glass vs. glass, neither side has the right to complain. Fastest burst wins, and that was the thief in this case. If you build your glass set thinking you’re going to be awesome just bursting everyone down clicking a few buttons, don’t be upset when someone comes along and does the same thing to you.

If they were thinking of giving portal to other classes (instead of keeping it a unique mesmer ability) the least they can do is make the Necro actually be able to rule over his minions a little more, like a Necro should.

Hiya~ Let me see if I can’t give you some advice, though what people have already posted is already very accurate.

On my ele I love love love S/D. One of my friends uses D/D, and of course I tried that out. Wasn’t for me. Not to say anything bad about my D/D friends but it made me feel like I was on a thief and just rolling my face on the keys because my skills didn’t really need that extra flair to pull off. (personal opinion guy, don’t hurt me ><)

With S/D, your AoE is a little bit limited, but not as drastically as you may think. All you need to is control your opponent a little more with how you move and how you chain your skills. I have fantastic duels all the time while roaming with my Ele, and I mean fights where I know it came down to skill and I walk away from the fight (win or lose) feeling awesome.

I could go in depth with how I play the set up, and I will if you do so ask of me (message or post or whateve’s) but it might not be for you. You should always play a set-up that you have fun playing, and that you feel effective with, not just a set up other people say is good. ~ Good luck!

The above post is correct, you aren’t actually reanimating the dead you are just using the dead to create creatures to defend you.

Also, we have an ‘undead ranger’ in the form of our bone fiend, that attacks at range and can be commanded to immobilize foes.

And the ‘undead hammer warrior’ is basically our Flesh Golem, with the same command and everything, he charges and knocks foes around.

Oh thank goodness, I thought my internet was dying on me. I’m having the same problem, 5 disconnects in the past 5 minutes since I patched. Got frustrated so I came here.