Guild Wars 2

Waisenpai.6028:

I’m sorry I’m salty from being linked to NSP and fighting outnumber Yak zergs or Roll, unit, AI guild (yes I know 2 Anet guys are their) :P and +9 roamers vs me T.T

Asphyxia I really enjoy your vids they have great team work if it wasn’t the few mowing me down haha T.T

Condi bow f1 does the job in team fights it’s a quick blanket of fire death.

Also congratulations to your irl success and happiness Yeah I was at Foo and Wench’s online wedding it was fun!
I hope you have fun with the cough cough expansion I heard warriors use d/d hehe. Their going to be lame eles! lol

Many apologies and keep up the great vids. PS do one with D/D war just for silliness!

I’d hate being linked to NSP lol. We’re on Crystal Desert, so if you ever get the itch to transfer, you’re welcome to run with us.

Waisenpai.6028:

You’d be gone in a jiffy when caught of guard hadn’t been for your condi clears or healing/buffs shield you from dps. I ran with lots of you guys before. Or with the large guilds that shield you when roaming or the many fellow roamers that died to shield your havoc team.

It’s funny you never mention us btw very sad sometime.
Sincerely your old core d/d ele friend from BP and many of us very old roamers.

We actually don’t run anywhere near larger guilds, we do our best avoid the larger groups from our server because we would rather fight on our own. We don’t run anything like how we used to run back when we were on BP either. We’re far more organized, we have an actual group comp now. Back when we were on BP, we all played solo roaming builds in a group of 2-5 people. Once other small groups started running actual comps where they were all supporting each other, we had to change to running a more support comp to stay competitive. It took some adjusting, but we’ve gotten a lot better as group because ofi t.

Also, I do remember you very well. I think I even asked you to transfer to us and to join XT when BP got unpaired from FA lol. You made D/D base ele look good and I always do my best to show respect to good roamers. You’re not forgotten, neither are my days on BP. I actually met the girl I’m about to marry in July on BP, so how could I ever forget that place?! haha.

http://xtremetheory.com/2017/04/24/wvw-042317/

Some more warrior footage from roaming 5 man last night in WvW.

Roaming 5 people makes a world of difference I think. I prefer it more than any other amount of people personally.

bartsimpsons.6135:

I have played both condi war (viper) and power (zerk) in spvp and wvw. I found that in both scenarios condi war is only strong in 1v1 type of situations against anyone who doesnt have excessive condi removal/resistance and drops as the number of people and/or the skill of the enemy increases. I was owning with condi war in non-ranked but as soon as the ranked started I has 0 impact and lost games. I thought it was a good build but power is simply better when fighting people who are trying. This is just the case with condi build in general in spvp. Very few classes can be effective while running condi in spvp.

There is a huge difference between viper warrior and trailblazer/dire. I know you’re talking PvP, but even in PvP, I would use a different amulet than Viper if you plan on taking on more than 1 person at a time. I can handle 2v1 pretty well with trailblazer in WvW and handle 2v1 in PvP pretty well with Rabid amulet.

bartsimpsons.6135:

Regarding ur pvp build: last blaze and rabid amulet are pretty rubbish? and no endure pain?. Run a more offensive ammy like viper or destroyer with defensive traits/skills like in the standard meta power build. You barely any stab and one of your primarily damage dealers is a 2.5 sec channel. No condi removal, only resistance. Shattering blow is just a poor ability, and not worth taking in pvp. Rabid ammy is actually a horrible choice, Prec with no power/ferocity and toughness (vit is better) are horrible stats (do the math yourself).

My offense is plenty running Rabid. Last Blaze is preference, with it, I have an extra stack of burn when I do my headbutt or one of my Rage elites, as well as when I go in to my berserk mode.

As far as no condi clear, what do you call Cleansing Ire trait? That is my cleanse and it provides a lot of it.

Shattering Blow isn’t as nice as I’d like it to be, but it is extra damage. Depending on the match, I’ve been known to swap it out for balanced stance.

Rabid amulet has precision which plays nicely with the “Kings of Fire” trait. I have a very high up time of fire aura because of it and I’ve watched people kill themselves attacking me because my burning damage is so high lol.

bartsimpsons.6135:

Anything works in wvw because most people are not very good and are not specced for roaming and fighting a dire warrior. They are specced for fighting in a zerg vs another zerg and capturing/defending objectives.

Except people who actually are roaming and/or dueling and not just running back to their zerg. There are more of those people than you might think.

bartsimpsons.6135:

The reason why people are advocating longbow is that sword primal burst is easily dodged. You can fix this by detargetting and leading ur target but overall its a difficult ability to land vs a moving target.

Sword “Flaming Flurry” burst skill also pierces and hits up to 5 targets, also does significantly more damage than any longbow skills in a very short period of time, especially since we get quickness when we go into berserker mode.

No build is perfect and a lot of things are preference, but my stuff is also pretty well thought out and very well tested and proven with hours of stream footage.

If you’re having defensive problems on my build, you’re not playing it right. The fact that you took Viper amulet tells the story of why you’re having problems surviving, it has nothing to do with the rest of the build, the rest of the build is set up around the rabid amulet. The high precision for “Kings of Fire” trait, the toughness for the defense against the power players, cleansing ire and berserker stance for fighting condi players, and plenty of blocking, stuns, and high condi burst damage if you know how to play it.

I won’t be upset if you don’t like it, but judging it from a match or two and using viper amulet is not going to make it work right. You have no defense with viper amulet, which is 100% true, so all of those defensive traits in the defense line are useless because you can’t even stay alive long enough to make them matter lol..

Also, just FYI, Endure Pain is a crutch that bad players use to stay alive for an extra 4 seconds because they don’t have enough defense against power players. Get toughness and use a better, more useful utility skill. Full stance warriors are good for one thing, blowing their entire load of damage and survivability in the first 20 seconds of the fight, then running away or dying when everything is on cooldown if they’re fighting anyone with a brain. My build, however, can face tank a lot of the damage without those skills and still does excellent damage if played correctly.

Working on highlighting some more small man fights with the condi warrior and adding more to the page. I still think this condi warrior is the strongest thing I’ve played in the game.

ThomasC.1056:

XTR.9604:

Since they got rid of those idiotic rocks popping up in front of me and added the ruins, I actually don’t mind playing on that map now. I’d still rather play on Alpine, but my group has been finding a decent amount of fights in red BL even in T4.

Now they just need to get rid of that mist stuff that stealths enemies and I think it will be golden.

The mist stuff that stealths is also gone. It’s been done in the very same release. The mist in itself is still here, but it doesn’t stealth anymore. Yet, it prevents “you” (i.e. if you don’t own the keep and ruins) from using stealth.

Ah good to know, thanks. I saw it revealing my group, so I assumed it still stealthed.

Since they got rid of those idiotic rocks popping up in front of me and added the ruins, I actually don’t mind playing on that map now. I’d still rather play on Alpine, but my group has been finding a decent amount of fights in red BL even in T4.

Now they just need to get rid of that mist stuff that stealths enemies and I think it will be golden.

zealex.9410:

XTR.9604:

zealex.9410:

XTR.9604:

OP has a really bad L2P issue.

u what now?

There is nothing wrong with resistance. It can be stripped easily enough and conditions are a far bigger problem than resistance can dream to be. If you’re having trouble with resistance playing a condi build, you’re playing it wrong and you should probably move on to playing a power build.

u dont get the point of this in so many lvls

No, I get what you’re saying, but I don’t agree. If someone throws up resistance but the group is not CLEANSING conditions, then they deserve to be epi bombed. It is a group comp/skill issue that you are seeing.

My group even just running 5 people is constantly cleansing conditions between our Guardian and our Ele in the group, and we all try to cleanse our own conditions frequently with our own skills as well. If my group of 5 can do it, your pug zerg should be doing it too.

zealex.9410:

XTR.9604:

OP has a really bad L2P issue.

u what now?

There is nothing wrong with resistance. It can be stripped easily enough and conditions are a far bigger problem than resistance can dream to be. If you’re having trouble with resistance playing a condi build, you’re playing it wrong and you should probably move on to playing a power build.

OP has a really bad L2P issue.

Rocket.3058:

I use this build with a slight difference to traits and utility slots and I do prefer strength over discipline. One option I use a lot is Traveler Runes. You get +15% boon duration and +10% condition duration plus 25% speed increase, plus a stat increase. Not as good as Krait runes but works quite well. I only play WvW

Krait runes are a must to me for this build to work as well as it does for damage on headbutt. I’ve one shotted people by using headbutt before due to the damage between traits and krait runes. For a condi player to one shot someone, that is a lot of damage to hit all at once. It isn’t to say that it isn’t viable to swap the runes. I’ve played this build with durability runes before to increase my boon duration on my berserker stance, but ultimately I felt the damage loss from not having krait runes.

I have a hard time giving up damage for anything but survivability if you haven’t noticed that from my builds yet haha. It is perfectly viable to give up several different things to increase mobility, it just isn’t maximizing your damage to give those things up. Of all of the builds I’ve played between all classes, my condi warrior does the most over all burst damage, which is insane to me still considering I’ve played every class full zerk even..

I’ll have the drugs he is having.

Do you realize that warrior is one of the most broken classes in the game right now for both damage and survivability? When you’re seeing power warriors gunflame people for 10-15k damage and condi warriors dropping 10k+ burn ticks on people with 1 button, all while having the best passive HP regen in the game and highest base HP – I have to say that you’re completely wrong.

It sounds like your issue is that you run GS and expect your enemies to just stand there and eat your damage. This is a player skill issue because you’re obviously not playing the class well. I personally love my Greatsword, but I don’t generally play with warrior GS anymore because there are several stronger options for power warrior these days that aren’t as easily outplayed. Try Axe/Shield or Mace/Shield and Hammer. It makes it easier to keep your enemies in place which will maximize your damage against them, unlike GS which has no real control over the enemies and its mobility on GS3 ends up causing me more problems than its worth in a fight.

Try other weapons, and if you can’t make a power warrior work, try a condi warrior because it is honestly a lot stronger in my opinion.

Sontaran.5904:

That’s great insight! I might test it out when I’m holding points and not running so far. I do use strength in pvp, just not wvw at the moment.

Yeah, it is a hard trade off, mobility or damage.. That isn’t such a hard trade for PvP because mobility isn’t as important for the warrior there. When I’m solo roaming, I often find myself using the 15% movement speed boosters or swapping out my shield for warhorn as I run and giving myself swiftness then swapping it back. Not very conventional, but it is better than nothing I suppose. I think it is all worth it once I get in to a fight and can drop crazy damage on people lol.

Sontaran.5904:

XTR.9604:

More videos added to condi warrior build page.

These are great, and I’m playing a build that is similar to yours but I adapted it to exotic gear since I don’t have ascended yet. I also swapped strength line for discipline. Is there a reason you like strength over discipline for this? I find the fast hands, faster run speed, condi cleanse and weapon swap very useful when roaming. What do you think are the pros and cons of using either discipline or strength in your build, and have you tried it with discipline?

I take strength over discipline for the confusion on interrupt and bleed/weakness on stun. The strength line adds a good bit of damage because I interrupt and stun frequently when I’m on mace/shield. Discipline line is perfectly viable, you just lose a good bit of damage by trading out the strength line.

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Distracting_Strikes

4 stacks of confusion per interrupt for 8 seconds without considering the condi duration on my gear. I can drop 3 interrupts in a row on someone pretty easily, that is 12 stacks of confusion which are going to be doing a lot of damage. With 12 stacks and them attacking, they take around 5.8k damage per tick on top of all of the other conditions I’m dropping on them, so it is significant damage. Not to mention the damage from bleeding and benefits from weakness on top of it from that line.

The damage difference is noticeable, I’d prefer to take discipline over strength if it wasn’t for that trait because it is such a huge source of damage. I’d love to have the passive movement speed, condi cleanse on weapon swap and faster weapon swaps, but a huge burst of extra damage is just more worth while to me at this time.

Warlord.9074:

more bad builds inc

I’ve proven my builds with many hours of footage to back them. You have any footage to prove that my builds don’t work?

More videos added to condi warrior build page.

Xenesis.6389:

XTR.9604:

How has Agg not been mentioned? lol…

Are you drunk? they were listed twice.

Guess I missed it lol.

How has Agg not been mentioned? lol… Anyway, from the GvG era, guilds like Agg, Ark, NS, HOPE, TA then there are guilds that weren’t big in the GvG like those others but deserve props like Rekz and several more that I am just not remembering right now.

Those are the guilds I would consider “legendary” from NA for WvW personally. I had the pleasure of running with several of them and being in 2 of them for awhile.

It would help if you would post your build, Calli. Knowing what traits and utilities you are running would make helping you a lot easier.

For the sake of mentioning it, the “Cleansing Ire” trait is excellent for clearing conditions when you use your F1 burst skills. I clear more conditions while using my burst skills than any other time. The other thing is that you should be running “Berserker Stance” and using it when you’re condi loaded, not just randomly in a fight. Save it for when you need it to save you. I also run the trait for cleansing a condition on weapon swap for my power warrior.

I also run Durability runes on my power warrior, this increases how long your resistance from berserker stance will last which is a pretty big help to sustaining conditions.

Here is the build I run when I run power warrior: http://xtremetheory.com/wvw-roaming-warrior-build/ – it runs Axe/Shield and GS as you stated and sustains against conditions and ranged attacks very well.

If you plan on playing power warrior, that is what I would recommend. Personally, I primarily play condi warrior because it is over all stronger than power warrior. Both are fun to play, but the condi warrior deals more damage and has better sustain over all. The condi warrior build is also listed on that page if you wanted to ever try it.

Jim Hunter.6821:

Thelgar.7214:

This is awesome: Being killed while outnumbered no longer grants any war score to the enemy team.

That might be something worth celebrating if outnumbered was a local buff instead of map wide…… or if the score actualy mattered….

^ This lol.

Amazing, they managed to make a big deal of balance changes and didn’t touch the 4 most broken things in the game which are condi mesmer/necro/warrior and thieves mobility. What a joke lol.

Edit: I forgot to mention the heal ele lol…

KhainPride.3987:

just went to your website and saw some ‘zerg busting’ videos

i mean you are your own person with your own build with your own personality but please dont disrespect the ‘zerg busting’ term LOL

nice videos, you need to work on utilizing your skills better in certain time frames(e.g your in berserker mode and you waste a potential burst by walking around doing nothing)

What wasn’t Zerg busting about 5 people and a few pugs killing 20+ people?

Also, there is a reason I use my berserk mode every time I use it. The couple times you’re probably referring to where it was wasted was when a ranger full bailed from me while I used it and a warrior did the same lol. It happens, skills get wasted from time to time.

Also, roaming is definitely not dead. Theives are not OP, but they’re stupid to fight against because they almost always shortbow 5 into another freaking dimension every time they take damage after not dealing a lot. Fighting theives isn’t “hard” really, it is just annoying because they can stun break if they DO get stunned very easily, they can almost endlessly evade and block while dealing damage lol.. It is irritating to fight them, they can be easily beaten if they hard commit to fighting you.

Mesmers are a different story. Mesmer in general is stupid broken and has been for a very long time. The clone and stealth mechanic on mesmer alone makes them the most annoying thing in the game to fight against. You throw that cheesy condi build on one on top of it and now you have seen the most broken thing in the game. It is the one class that I absolutely hate fighting against because the mechanics of the class are not only confusing in fights (yes, intentional), you get blown up with damage for even trying to fight condi mesmers lol. It works well, but I found it to be negative fun to play and even less to fight against.

babazhook.6805:

XTR.9604:

Full rework of conditions would be the correct thing to do as far as the condi builds go. Make condition damage effected by toughness, ferocity and crit chance. Drop condition duration completely. Then anyone running trailblazers will be about the same as a power build running Soldiers. Weak, then that will force the condi players to play something that is a lot less tanky if they want to deal damage.

I’ve been saying it for years, but it isn’t something Anet can do in 5 minutes and it mostly effects WvW primarily, so they don’t care.

My power warrior has more Armor and vitality then any condition thief or mesmer and can dish out 10k in an arc divider or headbutt. He can also heal at over 1k per second while throwing up resistance via zerker stance or using the signet.

Right, and my condi warrior will outdamage your power warrior and has 3.6k armor and nearly 30k HP lol. Fair?

Full rework of conditions would be the correct thing to do as far as the condi builds go. Make condition damage effected by toughness, ferocity and crit chance. Drop condition duration completely. Then anyone running trailblazers will be about the same as a power build running Soldiers. Weak, then that will force the condi players to play something that is a lot less tanky if they want to deal damage.

I’ve been saying it for years, but it isn’t something Anet can do in 5 minutes and it mostly effects WvW primarily, so they don’t care.

Hoaxintelligence.4628:

Why do you run cheese builds on warrior?
That only works vs bad people

Lets be real, warriors HP regen as a whole is pretty cheesy. Running defense line and healing signet, then food like mango pies is cheese. It works fine against good players. I’m not going to down a good player in 2 buttons with it, but I will still frequently beat a good player with it after a long fought battle if they know what to watch for. I’ve ran in to several warriors running my build now and I’ve downed them in seconds because they were bad players expecting for the build to carry them after seeing me play it. It goes to show that the build itself doesn’t completely carry, you have to know when to dodge, block, cleanse, etc.

If it isn’t meant to be played as well as it is, it will be nurfed when Anet sees fit. I have a dozen builds on other classes that are almost as strong as this build in both damage and tankiness. I just choose to play this one because it works well when I am in outnumbered fights and is excellent for 5 man group play when we’re fighting groups 2x-3x our size.

To each their own, if you don’t like it, don’t play it. There are several cheesier builds in the game that are much harder to counter, but I don’t enjoy playing things like thief or mesmer.

Added more game play videos of the condi warrior in small groups at http://XtremeTheory.com

Wolfric.9380:

OK. Yes thats possible but anoying ^^. Maybe i shoud do the same but i hate opening invenory while moving ….

To each their own really. Movement speed is important to me, but not as important as the damage and survivability that the build brings. Not for everyone, but it works very well for me.

Wolfric.9380:

I would never suggest a build without runspeed for WvW roaming.

I swap my shield for warhorn to give myself swiftness, then swap it back to shield when I am running around solo.

As far as PvE goes, I don’t do PvE so I don’t have a recommendation for that.

For WvW roaming though, my Condi warrior build is proven excellent in fights. http://xtremetheory.com/wvw-roaming-condi-warrior/

There are several bits of game play video there as well as info on skill rotation and two different build links, one dire/rabid and one full trailblazer depending on the money you wanna spend.

Cygnus.6903:

I just don’t get how you can say anything is skillless when you basicalyl admit your build only took you the skill of slotting traits and gear.

W/e, I’ve overstayed my welcome quite a bit.

I think thief is easier than the warrior build even, same with condi mesmer. All effective in their own right, but all are pretty scummy and none take a whole ton of skill to play.

Honestly, anymore in this game, I don’t find any class requiring any crazy about of skill to be good at. After playing every class pretty extensively, it is all pretty much the same concept at the end of the day. Learn to dodge at the right times and when to use your condition clears, invulns, heals, etc and all classes are the same concept from there to be “good” at. At that point, its all on the build.

Cygnus.6903:

XTR.9604:

The class mechanic of thief isn’t really about skill. You can easily play thief where you almost permanently dodge, block, or stealth leaving people only 1 second or less of possible time to get a stun off on you to put you down, and then you just shadow step away and continue dodging and blocking and stealthing for ever lol. If all of that fails for you, just switch to shortbow and run run run like a Kenyan.

I’ve never been on board with thief because it feels scummy to play it, way more so than playing this OP condi warrior.

As far as “kill or be killed” applying more to a thief, I don’t think so personally. You can disengage and run away from just about any fight with ease, I will go down swinging before I’ll try to run away lol. So I either kill my opponents or die trying, I don’t disengage in one of the cheesiest mechanics in the game today which is shortbow 5 lol..

Winning 2v1s against even decent players on this warrior happens pretty often because it has incredible sustain and equally incredible burst damage. I’ve played every class and know what to watch for. I wait for people to blow their clears and dodges then load them up. It is pretty easy to tell what people are doing in a fight to even kill decent player quickly.

I’ll ignore the derogatory remark about thieves, because it expresses a complete lack of knowledge of the class and a very typical condi player characteristic.

I just bolded two things you said. First, you try to be sarcastic about your build being OP, then you say you win 2v1s regularly because the build gives you incredible sustain and equally incredible burst damage. So you slotted traits and put on weapons and armor. Such skill, much wow.

GW2 is dying.

Hey, not my fault we have the ability to build like this. I’ve also played thief and do understand the class – I just don’t like it and think the play style is skillless. Also, I never said this build takes crazy skill or anything. It is easy to play, but if you’re a good player, you can literally almost never lose a fight.

The class mechanic of thief isn’t really about skill. You can easily play thief where you almost permanently dodge, block, or stealth leaving people only 1 second or less of possible time to get a stun off on you to put you down, and then you just shadow step away and continue dodging and blocking and stealthing for ever lol. If all of that fails for you, just switch to shortbow and run run run like a Kenyan.

I’ve never been on board with thief because it feels scummy to play it, way more so than playing this OP condi warrior.

As far as “kill or be killed” applying more to a thief, I don’t think so personally. You can disengage and run away from just about any fight with ease, I will go down swinging before I’ll try to run away lol. So I either kill my opponents or die trying, I don’t disengage in one of the cheesiest mechanics in the game today which is shortbow 5 lol..

Winning 2v1s against even decent players on this warrior happens pretty often because it has incredible sustain and equally incredible burst damage. I’ve played every class and know what to watch for. I wait for people to blow their clears and dodges then load them up. It is pretty easy to tell what people are doing in a fight to even kill decent player quickly.

http://xtremetheory.com/wvw-roaming-condi-warrior/

I’d totally run my trailblazer warrior build for commanding lol. I’d probably drop one of my utilities for endure pain for safe measure, but it is incredibly tanky and can still deal some nice AOE condition damage.

Updated condi warrior build page: http://xtremetheory.com/wvw-roaming-condi-warrior/

Added Trailblazer variant for those of you who want to be even more tank and deal even more damage. I left the Dire/Rabid build there since it is still excellent, but costs about 400g less lol.

I don’t know what it is like in EU, but it sounds like it is different than NA as far as roaming goes.

The fact that in this new trailblazers setup that I have been running this past week, I have around 3.7k armor solo and 30k HP makes it very easy to live against multiple enemies. I don’t take very much damage and my HP regeneration is great between healing signet, adrenal health and food.

More often than not, I will win just about any fight that I get in to unless someone (or multiple people) has/have a very good understanding of my build and my personal rotations and is on point with their timing for dodges, blinds, and condition clears. It is pretty rare for me to run in to anyone who does any of that. I have two friends that can beat my warrior about 50/50 in 1v1 because they’ve both watched me play it extensively and because they’re both excellent players at the game.

It sounds like you might enjoy something like a thief or trap ranger for roaming if your play style is stab and run. This build is not that kind of build, a “kill or be killed” playing style is pretty much a requirement for this build. Even when I do get outnumbered, I fight hard and see how many people I can down or kill before I go down. I’ve ended up surprised many times after killing or downing everyone or most of the people on me.

Almost every 2v1 that I get in to on that build resulted in me winning, 3v1 is a whole lot harder, but doable as long as my dodges and rotations are on point. The issue with 3v1 is that if 2 people hard rez the person that I focus out first, I may end up losing the fight. If someone tries to hard rez in a 2v1, it is almost a guaranteed win because I will blow up the person rezzing and it is game over for both of them at that point.

Cygnus.6903:

XTR.9604:

If you have to disengage, you’re playing this build wrong. This build is to be played “in your face” style. You have to stay hard committed to who you are fighting or else you’re going to lose.

I have no issues with it other than catching people who are running away from me.

what?

You won’t always be fighting evenly in WvW, more often then not you won’t be, in fact. Being able to disengage is a very important aspect to any wvw roaming build, be it through stealth, mobility, or heavy soft/hard CC. Your build has none, so every time you are at a disadvantage that you can’t realisticly overcome (for instance, two people versus you by yourself with similar skill level), you will die.

This in itself is not really a problem, because dying is almost irrelevant in a videogame. And off course you can still faceroll most people in 1v1, most scrubs in 1vX. But the problem exists nonetheless.

I have several videos of me winning 1v2 and 1v3 on my website. I know exactly how solo roaming is since it is what I primarily do in WvW lol.. The only times I ever run from a fight is if there is a blob chasing me down. If they’re committed and catch me, then it is whatever. Dying is just part of the game lol. You respawn pretty quick and get right back to it, not a big deal.

Also, the reality is that there are maybe a dozen people in WvW that roam and have a similar skill level to me. That is not arrogance, it is just the truth. Running in to 2 people on my level will pretty much never happen in the current state of the game.

Cygnus.6903:

XTR.9604:

I have no issues with it other than catching people who are running away from me.

This is 80% of the WvW population. More then that when they see what build you are running.

Not sure what tier you play in, but it is more like ~20% where I am.

sneakytails.5629:

I tried the build, there were some positives, and real negatives for me. The positives were its cheap cost to equip, and good durability with the stats, gear, and skills.

My two biggest complaints were the mobility, and the negative consequences of missing the headbutt attack.

The site mentions its a solo roaming build, but based on your videos and actually playing the build I feel its just too slow for solo play. 1v1 It was very hard to disengage bad fights, or counter the kiting classes/builds. This build as it stands really is a good small group build, it just feels a lot weaker solo.

The mobility is the only real draw back that I’ve found, but I have no problems in fights. If you have to disengage, you’re playing this build wrong. This build is to be played “in your face” style. You have to stay hard committed to who you are fighting or else you’re going to lose.

I personally love playing this build solo and have a lot of videos of me playing it solo in outnumbered fights and winning. I have no issues with it other than catching people who are running away from me.

As far as negative consequences for missing headbutt goes, it is certainly a setback. You have to try to time it very well, be aware of if you are blinded, if your opponent is blocking, and count dodges. If you pay attention to evades, it is usually pretty easy to guess when their next dodge will be. I also will frequently shield bash before doing headbutt to ensure it lands, if that helps you any.

I think your play style might be the issue with this build more so, if you’re used to playing something that disengages from fights easily like thief, mesmer, or ranger, then you’re just not used to how this build has to be played. You have to play incredibly aggressive and full commit to your target, you can’t disengage or you’re going to lose.

Anyway, I’ve switched my warrior to running full trailblazers armor, weapons and trinkets a few days ago and have been playing it like that pretty well. It has crazy amounts of toughness, very high HP, damage is excellent (even better than it was), and over all it feels a lot stronger. I’m going to update the build to show a “variant” of the build running full trailblazers because it is VERY expensive to get compared to the dire/rabid. I spent around 300G to get my gear switched over and already have selectable stat trinkets that I switched to trailblazers.

New video from last night on my condi warrior game play. Running our 4 man group, we farmed Dragonbrand for nearly 19 straight minutes in the video.

http://xtremetheory.com/2017/01/20/farmed-dragonbrand/

korasukage.9315:

Hey All,

I was thinking about trying out a condi warrior build and wanted to verify with you folks that the following build is viable: Burnbow. The change to Discipline will work well I believe. Especially Leg Specialist as it gives me 3 immobilization(s). With the constant burn stacking from LB1 I can be assured of keeping up the condition pressure even while moving around.

Please let me know what you think.

Cheers
Kora

As far as viability goes, I’m sure it is viable. I personally would never give up my mace/shield for a longbow. The damage on the longbow is far less than the damage, crowd control, and defense you get from the mace/shield.

I also wouldn’t personally take tactics over strength, but if you aren’t running mace/shield then the strength line isn’t AS critical to have.

Stand The Wall.6987:

lol. I made that comment without actually looking at those builds. skim mentality ftw. sorry bro.

Take a look around for more than a few seconds, you’ll find that I did okay.

Fay.2357:

Instead of complaining on the forums about it, have you considered trying to play better instead?

+1

Osu.6307:

Stop pin-sniping

Never.

Maybe people will stop pin sniping when the pin stops jumping out 100 feet in front of his group making it obvious that he is the commander lol… It is very easy to figure out who is the tag based on who is leaping out first. A good driver will say leap, good group will leap before them, and then tada, not getting sniped lol.

Its a L2P issue. I don’t generally get drive sniped in my groups.

Stand The Wall.6987:

I would consider boon duration for some of your builds (rev and guard).

They both run durability runes and “plate of mussel gnashblade” food, not sure what more you want from me…

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Stand The Wall.6987:

X T D.6458:

snipples

you sir are a gentleman and a scholar and I would like to wholeheartedly give my unabated praise for such a radical display of honest logic and grand ideas! hear hear!

only about 10, 15… maybe 20% joke. so for srs it really doesn’t makes sense that the swords and wp contestation are treated as separate events.

Don’t lie, you were serious the whole way lol.

But really though, the sword and WP contesting are one in the same as they should be. I still say that waypoints should be removed from WvW in general except for spawn but I doubt I’ll get what I want too lol.

LoL /blush

Removing waypoints would work better for a different map layout, say if the map had a top down rectangular shape where it is more narrow in the middle. Since wvw maps have a more circular shape to accommodate space for 3 servers, waypoints make it easier to travel around. Also since it provides a strategic advantage, it therefore gives an incentive to attack the keep that has/working on a waypoint, so it promotes a more progressive style of play which is good.

I think the idea is to have scouts around that can call out in team chat if something is being hit somewhere.. If a servers scouting is bad enough to where they lose an objective because they had to run from spawn instead of the nearest waypoint, then they deserved to lose it lol.

Scouting is definitely important and it cannot be said enough. However it can be very difficult to do considering how much of the area around the keep needs to be checked. Alpine garrison is simply enough, 5 gates and 2 wall sections. With the current system. With desert bl it is a lot harder to do because of how much larger the keeps are and the more complex navigation and pathing doesn’t make it easier. Some servers simply do not have the manpower, or volunteers to place a scout, let alone multiple scouts throughout a map.

I can’t speak for all roamers, but when I’m roaming, I’ll frequently call out where I see enemy zergs in team chat or send a PM to a commander that I know is running.

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XTR.9604:

Stand The Wall.6987:

X T D.6458:

snipples

you sir are a gentleman and a scholar and I would like to wholeheartedly give my unabated praise for such a radical display of honest logic and grand ideas! hear hear!

only about 10, 15… maybe 20% joke. so for srs it really doesn’t makes sense that the swords and wp contestation are treated as separate events.

Don’t lie, you were serious the whole way lol.

But really though, the sword and WP contesting are one in the same as they should be. I still say that waypoints should be removed from WvW in general except for spawn but I doubt I’ll get what I want too lol.

LoL /blush

Removing waypoints would work better for a different map layout, say if the map had a top down rectangular shape where it is more narrow in the middle. Since wvw maps have a more circular shape to accommodate space for 3 servers, waypoints make it easier to travel around. Also since it provides a strategic advantage, it therefore gives an incentive to attack the keep that has/working on a waypoint, so it promotes a more progressive style of play which is good.

I think the idea is to have scouts around that can call out in team chat if something is being hit somewhere.. If a servers scouting is bad enough to where they lose an objective because they had to run from spawn instead of the nearest waypoint, then they deserved to lose it lol.

X T D.6458:

They already announced that it would be changed to 5/4/3 with the next living story release.

Oh awesome, I didn’t see that. Thanks for the info.

I imagine the intentions were good changing from the previous way where each skirmish rewarded first place 3 points, second place 2 points, and third 1 point – but this way where first gets 2 and the other two get 1 is not working well.

TC is getting destroyed in T1 but you can’t tell as much based on war score because it doesn’t factor in how badly they’re getting killed at all times..

Please change it back so that servers can be placed where they belong (aka, JQ should be T1)

Stand The Wall.6987:

X T D.6458:

snipples

you sir are a gentleman and a scholar and I would like to wholeheartedly give my unabated praise for such a radical display of honest logic and grand ideas! hear hear!

only about 10, 15… maybe 20% joke. so for srs it really doesn’t makes sense that the swords and wp contestation are treated as separate events.

Don’t lie, you were serious the whole way lol.

But really though, the sword and WP contesting are one in the same as they should be. I still say that waypoints should be removed from WvW in general except for spawn but I doubt I’ll get what I want too lol.