Guild Wars 2

I know focus rocks but how can shield be better than torch? Only thing I really like about shield is how it looks :P CD’s too long for a short duration effect :S
I have used the mace quite a bit but I don’t like it so I’m abandoning it
The greatsword I kind of enjoy but I like the sword better and it’s hard to trait for both of them it you want some utility from the virtue trait line + having Vigorous Precision

Thanks for your info guys!

But what’s wrong with the torch, why the hate? I know focus is awesome and usually the go to weapon, but what if I have a sword/focus on the other weapon set? The torch skills seem to have great dmg but with almost no utility (nr 5 cond removing being the only one).

I’ve read that Torch 4 does really nice dmg with zerker build, maybe not enough which is too bad. it’s a fun weapon.

Shouldn’t be a prob keeping scholars up at that range, that’s why I thought of them.
Too bad it’s not enough (didn’t really think so but with so many dmg boosters who knew :P). This build would be nice if it were worth it since it can easily be changed to a sword/gs build

First of all as the topic states, this is for PvE.
I hear alot of talk about scepter guardians being worthless, is this true?
No matter what I don’t think I would play this cause I like my sword too much but I was playing around with the build for giggles and to settle my curiousity :P

http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-7;9;9;9;0JT;0918-56A;40;06N;4udbTudbTn-knNJ;4Vp-wWz12Z8_Ea-30Cs1kg

last 10 points are optional
Would the scepter dmg be competetive with other weapons?
Scholar runes and unscathed defender should be easy to keep on at full range.

Everyone keeps saying pugs are crap and can’t play for kitten (pretty much) but remember, to the pug you are also a pug…

I would love a symbol on Zealot’s Defense. Though instead of pulsing aegis to allies I’d love for it to give either a short immobilize or chill to make you actually hit the targets

Thanks for the link Sauzo!

My goal with the guardian is to have good dps and also bring party utility, mainly with WoR and shouting buffs at them (aegis at critical points for instance)

Sauzo.6821:

Either go the full 30 in honor to get PoV or skip it. PoV is really nice unless you are gonna go 20 in virtue to get the trait absolute resolution. Then take renewed focus so you can clean another 3 conditions if really needed as well as purging flames. Me personally I like the 30 in honor for PoV. That’s why I run a 15/15/0/30/10. Still got master of consecration for faster and longer WoR but also PoV. 30 in radiance is good if you use sword/X, otherwise 15 in radiance is enough to get you the blinds and resets per kill on the virtue. Check the threads, there is a guy who did a recent youtube with the highest dps build that still offers good utility. It’s a 15/15/0/20/20 build. I mean you could go with a build with max radiance but if you’re gonna do that, why not just roll a warrior who has access to more weapons, does more dps while bringing utility/banners and has higher HPs.

Because a warrior isn’t a guardian and doesn’t even have the radiance trait line… :P

Yeah I like PoV too, but I really like some other stuff in the lines more, that’s why I was thinking soldier runes, to get the effect without traiting.

Will have to look for that youtube clip.

I though honor would be rather nice because of empowering might and 1h sword with RHS. What would be the focus in virtues? what traits are the important ones?

I feel like Sword/focus or torch ,10/30/0/20/10 with full zerker and soldier runes might be something for me.

Great tips everyone! I’m pretty used running zerker with my warrior but that is ofc more base hp.
I like Sword with any off hand really so gonna try them all out to the fullest.

oh btw, how about gear. Full zerker the thing to go on guardian as well or mix in some cavalier or something for some survivability to make sure you’re alive while shouting at your friends? :P

Thanks for the info. Gonna read up on that thread more after dinner

okey, thank you very much. how about optimal build then? was thinking either 10/30/30/0/0 or 0/30/30/5/5, does this make sense?

Hey!
I was just wondering what the strongest PvE weapon would be. And this from a pure dmg point of view not strong as in support and stuff. I remember a long time ago the talk was that Sword/Torch was the highest dmg dealing wep but that was as I said, a long time ago.
Please enlighten me

Okey, I thought all the bleeds/burning (poison with sigil) would add up enough to get over the top of pvt with close to no crits.

Loco, dire stats are condition dmg (main) and toughness, vitality.

I don’t really see the big benefit of pvt vs dire armor. And the supportive part should be no different between the 2. Please enlighten me so I get a greater understanding of things

Looks interesting Loco, gonna try it out when I have the gear. I’m wondering however now with the new Dire stat if you should go with that since you’ll have a sword. Maybe it’s not enough though idk.

Maybe mix in some Dire then for the Condition, toughness, vitality

Would you recommend going for Rabid gear then (Condition, precision, toughness)? Or maybe settlers/apotechary (Toughness, condition, healing)? Or maybe something different? Personally I’ve been thinking of going sword and longbow with some conditions.

sorrow.2364:

Xhean.3452:

It’s not a joke, have you seen the poison uptime of a scepter necro or dagger thief? Doesn’t matter if you could cleanse every 3 secs

Yeah, because scepter necros and dagger thieves spend all of their time autoattacking, because it is the only way to have a decent poison uptime.

I don’t know about the rest of the necros but I’ve pretty much turned to only autoattacking on my necro since EVERYTHING dies anyway. Ofc with the occasional epidemic when the entire team happen to be at one location

Personally I play Sword/Sword – Longbow conditions and loving it, and I absolutely hate playing the typical skullcrack perma stun builds.

Writetyper.1985:

As a warrior main: you’re not wrong. I actually kinda wish we had before back, I almost prefer flat out sucking in every role to being shoehorned into boring passive builds. I feel like they should have balanced in moderation instead of flat out doubling the healing signet, for example.

Also: According to the leaked notes, barely anything is changing, just para sigil being fixed. We’ll see. At least they’re not overdoing it.

Well, it’s okey for others to whine about a class but if you play it yourself and think it’s too good and it’s more fun to play a more active and not facerolling class/build how about you just random pick your traits/weapon and utilities and go for it. No one is forcing you to play like most others who like to be the best they can.

sorrow.2364:

Scar.1793:

Are you serious ?
Like someone said, poison. But the passive heal isn’t that high, you must be mad.
Look at Elems, they have lots of regen skills. Yet I don’t cry about it.

Elementalist’s regen is nowhere as good as warrior’s regen.

Also, stop with this Poison joke. To let poison really do something against permanent regen, you have to mantain it permanently, which is impossible considering how stupid good are warrior’s condition cleansing.

It’s not a joke, have you seen the poison uptime of a scepter necro or dagger thief? Doesn’t matter if you could cleanse every 3 secs

Ty aeneq!
I have hoelbrak runes atm so atleast that’s 20% might duration.
My crit is around 80% at full adrenaline so yeah a crit sigil would probably proc every time it’s not on cd.

Hmm, what to choose, what to choose…

Thanks for your replt Olba!

Good pointers you have there. Just a question, what does 1.0 coefficient mean, does it mean that it doesn’t scale with anything or?

About the sigil of accuracy, doesn’t it feel a bit overkill with all the crit we already have?

Hey!
So what sigils and why would be best to use in a pve environment as full zerker maining Axe?

My own thoughts about this would be:
5% dmg increase seem rather small considering it’s just 500 dmg IF I manage to hit 10k with my axe.
The sigil of fire seems like a good alternative, would be nice if a numbercruncher could calculate the dmg over some time.
Sigil of Battle is also interesting since that would make you gain 4 stacks of might on swap with the minor trait in discipline.
And ofc the Sigil of Bloodlust, which from what I understand would be better than Precision, correct me if I’m wrong.

Please provide some input to this matter

I’m gonna try to do something constructive here.
I’m not sure if this thread is just in general, pvp or wvw but here’s what I do in s/tpvp

Full rabids with S/S – Longbow
0/25/20/10/15
Sigil or earth and corruption on swords and doom on longbow.
Healing Signet
Balanced Stance
Endure Pain
Berserker Stance
Signet of Rage

I have no problems with necros.
If you see he’s condition, pop berserker stance as soon as you enter the battle. IF he’s still alive when the stance ends you cleanse all his conditions by abusing your F1 and cleansing ire.

As for what Excalibur said about fear: yes it’s a condition and shouldn’t be broken by stability but it does also count as a stun for some reason and therefore it does (tried it out, stun breakers breaks fear)

Nike Porphyrogenita.8137:

Every group I run in achieves 25 Might for every fight, so no, it isn’t especially rare.

I never understood the concept of caring about whats optimal in a pug. That’s like arguing whats the best type of offense for pee wee football when the goal is to make it to the NFL.

Doesn’t this kind of destroy our entire arguement? This whole thread is when playing in pug and you’re saying I have to play with that optimal build but you don’t care about being optimal in a pug…
Anyways to answer your question about fun. Say if I would hate the greatsword skills and love the 1h sword skills playing GS would take alot of the fun out of it.

Nike Porphyrogenita.8137:

Xhean.3452:

Thanks for your input DuhGeneral.8940!
Sounds pretty fun imo, too bad this thread got infested by a couple of so called “elitistjerks” who can only see one side of the coin…

There is only one side of the coin in pve. WvW or pvp there are a wider variety of options, but this is a pve thread. In pve there is dps and there is nothing else. And name calling won’t get you anywhere; you should be ashamed of yourself.

Advice was asked for on an open forum. People who know what they are talking about gave the advice needed. You didnt like what they said because it was opposite of your preconceived notions. Which reveals you didn’t actually want constructive advice, what you really wanted was a reaction like “wow that build is really cool thanks for sharing!” feel good back patting session. Your mistake.

First of all it’s not namecalling, it’s a term used to describe people who look down on those who aren’t masters of everything, as you seem to do.
The advice given was not the opposite of preconceived notions, I know the playstyle you recommend is the highest dps and I’ve said I want to have the most fun when I play (this is not my work). There is definitely not only one side of the coin in PvE unless ofc you take this waaaay to serious and take out the fun from the game. I’d rather have 4 people with me struggling than 4 meta build “pros” who wants to push the limits to do the fastest runs. I rather kill stuff than skip and so on.
And yes I want constructive advice, and L2P is not constructive advice. Doing tweaks and give suggestions in a nice way to the question asked would be constructive. “Play like this or you’re a noob” is however not.

Thanks for your input DuhGeneral.8940!
Sounds pretty fun imo, too bad this thread got infested by a couple of so called “elitistjerks” who can only see one side of the coin…

I mean when I was doing the full zerker thingy, as I am on all my other chars (except necro where I changed to conditions)

As I’ve stated before, I’m almost only playing with pugs, and alot of them are not, lets say up to par… I’ve been last man standing so many times in the past and that’s why I felt it would be fun to help your teammates stand up instead of being flat on their backs for half the fight.
Not everyone is great at dodging and it takes some practice. I’m not a master at it but I’m pretty good. Some classes have a hard time getting vigor (try necro for instance) and a warhorn buff for vigor helps alot there.

Okey so it is indeed better with a DEAD berzerker meta build group than a group that’s alive with some defense. Great to get that cleared up.

I would say handicapping self and party is a huge exaggeration. Sure if you play with a premade team with people you know can pull their weight everyone can go full glasscannon meta builds. I pretty much only run pugs and I’d say more than half of the times the party is alive due to getting helped with condition removals and when can’t be kept alive can be ressed because at least 1 player is able to withstand some hits. Longer fights without wiping is still better than wiping.

I completely agree with your statement when in a premade pro group though.

Edit: Since this is a game and not work I’d say each player having the build that makes them have the most fun is most important, though it’s always nice to hear what other people think about your setup.

Indeed Axe/mace with GS and 30/0/0/10/30 build is great dmg no matter what your party composition looks like.
I just changed my gear to berserker and went with some different (defensive) traits.

This is what I made:
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-u;4NK-C-Y4gK-60;9;54JTE;408-18A5;04-J0S;1qObSqObSn-FvNLL090;1kVq0u1zY4_Aa630C-2i;5F1-ZF18Z;9;9;9;9;0V0k

I don’t know exactly how this compare but it feels very close to what I had with Axe/mace – GS 30/0/0/10/30 with KNIGHTS gear. It is however really good at keeping myself and my party alive and it is imo WAY more fun. I really love it. The power coefficent of the sword is great and I can alone stack around 20-25 stacks of might which also makes the bleeds really nice.
In some cases I switch axe for mace if I feel the defense and weakness is needed and ofc in some fights I tend to switch to the rifle to be safe.

If anyone got some comments on this build I would love to hear them but as I said, I really enjoy it and it feels great

okey, sounds pretty nice

Thanks CriticalHit.9540
Do you feel that build works good for you in PvE, do you do some dmg or just feel tanky?

ArabianDude.5128:
Feel free to borrow the thread might as well ask questions here instead of creating new threads.
Ruby Orbs is a great cheap alternative. I’ve heard from several people that the 6 scholar rune is better than orbs if you keep over 90% health about 25% of the time, which isn’t that hard. They are expensive however.
Personally I went with Superior rune of Hoelbrak cause I love the might duration (we can stack some sweet might) and the lower condition duration on self.

Hehe, good tips there Lampshade, especially the first
But yeah I guess that’s the way to go, though it feels rather boring that everyone plays the same way all the time

Really? I’ve felt on other chars that it does alot of difference.
However say that I were to try something new, would this build do anything good in theory?
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-u;4NKkO0Y4cK-60;9;5O-TE;127;218A5;8qObSqObSn-FvVHV6;3wV1X6Y9ZH4Ma630C-2i;5F1-ZF18Z;9;9;9;9;0V0e

bumping for help

Hey!
First of all I would like to point out that, as the topic hints, this is thread is about me needing advice on my build for PvE content like dungeons and high level fractals.

I am currently using this build:
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-u;4NKkO0Y4cK-60;9;4T;09T29A;41;057B;6qObSqObSn-kKNLV6;3wV1X6Y9ZH4Ma630C-2i;5F1-ZF18Z;9;9;9;9;0V0Y

I don’t particularly like the mace offhand so I don’t use it that much even though it happens. I like shield and warhorn much more. The rifle I switch out for GS depending on the fight (don’t wanna hear any complaints about l2p and you can melee all fights, I like rifle).

I was thinking of changing into some defensive traits but I’m not sure what to remove, the strength or discipline line :S
Anyway whatever traits I remove I’m leaning towards getting into tactics cause I like the banner or shout heal (which one do you recommend?) since I always bring one of each anyway
Sure enough the defense trait line has some alluring traits as well such as adrenal health and cleansing ire, tough choices, that’s why I need the help

The hardest part of all this is that both GM traits in strength and discipline is so awesome I’m having a hard time deciding what to lose.

I’m hoping to be able to keep my current gear setup for my new build if that’s not too crazy

Thanks in advance!

Scoobaniec.9561:

Xhean.3452:

Scoobaniec.9561:

Red Falcon.8257:

You don’t really have to “grind” them… You actually don’t have to grind anything in this game, yet some people will still grind because they are stuck in that mentality.
Do your dailies etc, you will eventually get them all.

Wait.. so 2k t6 mats, 120g (fixed amount), 100 x lodestones, 500+ ecto, precurson arent a grind? I don’t think anyone would have legendary yet if everyone was playing at slow pace without buying anything off tp..

as he said, you don’t really HAVE to grind… you don’t HAVE to have a legendary so no, you don’t have to grind…

U don’t have to play this game.. If u want something u have to grind. Even archievements are huge grind

Indeed you have to do it if you want something, but that’s an option you have not something that’s forced upon you. In the end it always comes to personal choice.

Scoobaniec.9561:

Red Falcon.8257:

You don’t really have to “grind” them… You actually don’t have to grind anything in this game, yet some people will still grind because they are stuck in that mentality.
Do your dailies etc, you will eventually get them all.

Wait.. so 2k t6 mats, 120g (fixed amount), 100 x lodestones, 500+ ecto, precurson arent a grind? I don’t think anyone would have legendary yet if everyone was playing at slow pace without buying anything off tp..

as he said, you don’t really HAVE to grind… you don’t HAVE to have a legendary so no, you don’t have to grind…

allright! Thank you for the help

so maybe I’ll have a good mix if I go PVT armor and full berserker trinkets (don’t really like full zerker, done it too much)? Should I go with ruby orbs or is there a really nice rune you’d advice on?

thanks for your reply Steelo.
Yeah being the best at everything would be nice :P all kidding aside, I don’t really want to go full conditions with my warrior, it’s just that I like swords :P Maybe I should use axes or something instead. Rather be somewhat tanky tbh, since none of my other chars are.
Could you give me some advice on a better build. I sort of like the idea of PVT armor but is it good enough?

When you say zerker jewelry, do you mean like the entire ring as berzerker or just blablawhatever ring of the Berzeker.

bump for some help

Hello!
I would love some help deciding how to build my warrior.
As the topic states, this is PvE, dungeons, fractals and some WvW.

I really love the sword and would like a build using that, am I more or less forced to play full conditions then or can I go semi tanky with PVT armor or would I be doing nothing good then?

I was thinking maybe building like this (only traits):
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-u;4RKkN0;2ky2;9;5T-JJ;1268;101-26;9;6kvsDV6K
Then I got the option to chance Crack Shot for Forceful Greatsword for times I don’t need my rifle and switch to Quick Breathing in tactics when I use warhorn in WvW.

As I mentioned I like swords, both main and offhand, so I was thinking switching between Sword/Sword, Sword/Warhorn and Sword/Shield depending on encounter.

Now, what armor/trinkets should I focus on? What would be the wisest choice here? The feeling I get from warrior is to go PVT armor to be able to withstand some damage but it’s just a hunch

Please help me out here, almost time to buy t3 cultural armor :P

ArmageddonAsh.6430:

Along with this new Attunement we would see the Arcane Power tree become a more concentrated tree. Now some of the traits would need to be moved/changed and i know how people dont like change but here me out ^^

1) Arcane Mastery – This could stay the same, i would Arcane Wave, Arcane Power, Arcane Blast and Arcane Shield, well tweaked:

Arcane Blast: Blast your foe dealing Critical damage, deal more damage per a condition on the target

Arcane Wave: Blast nearby foes dealing critical damage, deal more damage per a condition on the targets

Arcane Power: Next 5 attacks deal critical damage and inflict a random condition to the target

Arcane Shield: Block targets attacks, each block inflicts a random condition. if hit by 5 attacks it explodes causing a mini Arcane Wave attack

I like your ideas to tweak the arcane skills, this would be fun even if nothing else changes imo

ArmageddonAsh.6430:

Skills wise for Dagger/Dagger:

Main Hand:
1) Arcane Lash (Dark/black version of Lightening Whip) This would be a 3 stage Auto attack that would deal damage and cause conditions. Thinking Bleeding, Bleeding, Vul with each one taking 1/2second to do. Durations would be 3-4seconds but the damage of the attack would be a bit lower to compensate

2) Arcane Blade: This would send out a a dark blade (visually dark version of Vapor Blade) that would bounce 5 times between targets that deals damage and inflicts Conditions to enemies and random boon to allies

3) Corrupt (for a change of Arcane lol) Breath: This would deal a simialr kind of attack as Drakes Breath but again a darker version (visually) that deals damage and inflicts either several conditions or High stack of 1 condition – maybe have it so that it deals more damage for the conditions on the target?

Off Hand:
4) Arcane(lol) Ring This would be again similar to Ring of Fire visually foes that enter/leave this ring takes damage and is inflicted with random conditions

5) This would be a AoE, similar to Chruning Earth Maybe Arcane Explosion. a quicker casting Churning earth but would deal about 1/2 the damage of Churning Earth but with more Conditions added Something like Poison(5 seconds), Bleeding 5 stacks(10 seconds), Burning(5seconds)

Thats just an example, trying to sue version of skills the class already has access to, just darker ones both in action and visuals.

So their it is, what do you guys think – any ideas you could add or changes you would make. Now i know not everyone will be happy with this, but alas you cant please everyone.

1) Necro scepter 1

2) Mesmer staff 1

3) Lets make it interesting, 3 sec channel new condition every 0,5 sec that you’re hit by the breath: STUN – 0,5 sec → CRIPPLE – 2 sec → TORMENT – 3 stacks 6 sec → BLEED – 3 stacks 10 sec → POISON – 5 sec → BURNING – 4 sec

4) Mesmer Chaos storm

5) Good idea, would love the bleeding to be torment to further avoid bleed caps, or split 2 torment 3 bleed to make cleansing harder

Edited for easier reading on nr 3

Fair enough. I’ve never really like the condition builds on mesmer, might be because I’m not too fond of confusion. The thing that’s imo making the necro best is the ability to keep up to 20 bleed stacks, poison + burning on a target and then spread it to 5 others with epidemic

I posted the build I’m using for my ele in another thread here, 0/15/10/15/30 with celestial/berzerker/cavalier mix in gear, D/D. Really strong 1v1 and 1v2.

ArmageddonAsh.6430:

I have 3 classes:

Necro – Condition build
Meser – Condition Build
Elementalist – Random Build

Now i have spent ALOT of time on my Memser as i got a little bored of my Necro condition build as it just didnt feel fun. Now i am wanting to give my Mesmer a break and i looked right at my Elementist as i just love caster classes.

So it got me to thinking, can Ele do condition builds well?

I am thinking No, based on the fact the tree with condition damage doesnt have any traits that that for example give bleeding on crits and such. This is something my Mesmer shines out – Confusion, Bleeding, Cripple, Blind, Daze, Burning, Vul, Poison, Weakness it pretty much does them all except fear but i cant seem to see how a condition build on Ele would work…

So annoying, every class has options for condition builds, every class has traits for conditions on crits minus Guardian and ele and it makes NO sense what so ever. Looks like i wont be playing me ele then, as i dont like any of the other builds. Maybe try Engineer and see whakittens like.

Too bad you sound so rooted into playing conditions on every class you play in the game. Sounds very boring to keep the same gameplay on all chars. However since you do love conditions why not just stick to the absolutely best condition class, you necro? They’re fantastic!

However I recommend tryring a more of a hybrid setup on your ele with a bit more focus on high crits, it’s alot of fun and you should give it a try. You will have high crits and you’ll see some lower numbers flying over your opponents head