Guild Wars 2

I don’t really know what to tell you. I don’t know what is more urrgent. Anyway I think it will both comes in the same update. ^^

About AOE. At first look it dosn’t look like a problem.
But after few months that you play, you see that AOE decides a lot of times who gonna win and who’s gonna lose in team fights. Even 1 on 1. If you don’t have always 1 anti cond utility you are dead agains necros or eles with no questions.

Atlest Aoe will be fixed..
Anyway 14k to a warrior xD wtf? Did the theif had like 20 might or something.
Your screen is definetly something that shoudn’t happen.

Is this something normal?

[IMG]http://i46.tinypic.com/20p63m.png[/IMG]

In my opinion that someone kills you not because he is good, but because he saw you when you didn’t saw him first and then he first attacks and you are dead. Man this is totly fair.
Thx you I’m loving it. Sarcazem bdw.

Anyway This is the worst mmo fail I ever saw.
Wanna be Skyrim/COD online fail.

Example*****, **************…….. are games that are comming out and are foccusing on PvP!!!
ALL the NEW MMO’s are focused on First PvP then PvE content, even if I don’t know to tell all the names of the mmos… ANd of thos taht I know I won’t tell to not be accused of adversting. That’s the truth. Check it out.
Why has to be only gw2 single player game to play online. :/ Ridiculus in my opinion.

Reason why mmo’s got popular, because or old school mmo’s. Why are you then trying to change that?
And about the Holy trinity…. You killed it and bringed the holy Rock, scissors,paper system.

This game dosn’t make me want to play PvE at all.
story suk.
Game was made for 11 years old inpressionable kids.
A few weeks ago I totaly forgot why when i first started game I quited Pve very soon.
Anyway I started and in first 15 minutes I was like.. O… Too bad that I remembered.
First is the story line that you chose when making caracters. Totaly suk :@
2: Just at start when you go trough toturial.. What they say is all completly ridiculus/stupid. I was like WTF is this a joke?
3: voices totaly suk.
Anyway I managed to come to lv around 30.
Then went back to pvp.

Next point.
graphic style is completly NOT my type.
In pvp, Why on earth you tought people would enjoy playing only capture point?
Why on earth you guys tought this game will be played by kids 11 years old that will enjoy playing it and played by grown up boys and they will enjoy it to.
Was this an crazy attempt to get an sucesfull commercial game?
Ooo I think so. But let me tell you a true story bro. No commercial(song, game,anime,movie or ANYTHING) will or EVER had made happy both or all sides.
Behind your sorry buts and promisses. And given hopes. You are full of crap. I cudn’t be more dissapointed on this game that I’m. It disapoitned me in every possible way. And I tryed and still trying to see good in this game since I paid 50eur or something.
Anyway,
Good points of the game?

PvP tournys can be fun.
and jsut saying that brings me ton of conplains about turnys on my mind.
I can’t tell something good about this game without thinking to a several bad things about the same thing that could be much better.

Don’t get me wrong. You had great founds I guess.
You managed to do great dettails.
and put a lot of work in it.
But that only means you had the chance to make an appic mmo and kittened up by making this whatever can be called. Sure is not an normal MMO.
Say whatever you want in the comments comment below and let me know what you think.

My opinion is that asians are much better in inmagining words and styles and stuff like this.
If I would be owner of A-net when you startered the project Gw2.
I would tell you to call in the Asian true MMO Artist. Make them lead you and you just program on theyr lead.
That’ would be much smartter choise than put the design in the hands of some people that in my opinion have no idea what an MMO should be like.

A.Net, I regret every EUR I spent for the game. And I will not ever again buy a game you made untill I will be sure as the sky is blue that is worth buying.

Another fast point. Makign the game buy and play I think you made it wrong.
Much better choise would be pay once a month 1eur after you bought the game. But that of course requires that the game is good fun and loved.

Chi Malady. You are right.

I asked 2 friends that got “cool” collors.
1 sad he got 1 after 100h gameplay in Pve.
He has more then 2 account lv 80. And 1 account 100% map complete.

He sad he bought most of the “cool” collors.

I think Since in PvP you can’t make enought money to buy all this collors you want, how on earth I’m supposed to get collors I want?
And totaly think that 99% of people have ugly armor’s collored.

1 of few armor’s really totaly cool and nicely collored I saw arround is this

http://s7.postimage.org/dp5s66tpn/gw651_Copy.jpg

TGSlasher.1458…. If I would understood what you sad….
Anyway I’m guessing you mean there is a recipe for making dyes in Mystic Forge.
Well I know it and I use it as offten as I can.

I had goten a lot of unidentified dye’s. I got only ugly collors out dhou.
Now is more then 3 months that I’m playing dhou. ANd still no deccent collors to cosumize my account. + dyes you unlock on 1 acc you can’t use on other acc. :/

Luck my but If you are not PvE-ing, i have no idea how you got thos collors.
I have a lot of friends that do only PvP since I do only PvP. How many of them have “cool” collors? No one.

As far I see I’m not the only 1 with this problem.
Ton of people try to make cool armors, but in the end they look ricolus. xD
I saw I’m 100% no more then 3-4 people since I started playing that had cool armors that were not combination of white and black. xD
And for white and black you need money.

Got million collors, and no idea on how to make something look nice together.
I’m not stylist :/ First game you need to make collors yourself…

1: You need money to get collors.
2:most collors just dosn’t look nice on 1 armor.
3:Need to be a “stylist” to make something nice out.
4:Why aren’t there some kind of pre-maded set collors option?
5: Idk for PvE but in PvP there are ton of ugly armor and weapons. And cool ones are crazy rank for a not roamer. Or there is no recipe out there on how to make them.(unknow rank for example)
6: you finish up with very few choises for armors to use. why?
Because you have 3 light armor class. And armors that are for necro are not “cool” for a mesmer. And armors that are for Ele dosn’t look nice on mesmer. I hope you see the point here.
7:If I do only pvp I would like to get some “cool” collors to. But they cost ton of money, and I made ton of undentified dyes in PvP, but no actual nice collor came out.
For make good money you need to do pve. :/

Thank you mate.

What is the best Europe pvp server?
In waht Eu server the most pvp players play?

heh I heard of it a month or more ago.. But I tought they had fixed it in this mid time. Anyway.
I now think this is just something they don’t want to fix, to prevent EU players play NA and viceversa.. For obius reasons of conection and stuff.

I cahnged region and I’m not geting chest. Is there anyway i can switch back to old region without waiting 7 days? :/

Well why they havn’t still fixed the chests bug dhou? I changed server and I’m not getting chest. I knew about this bug, but i tought it weas fixed since a month ago or more when i heard about it….

And AOE is still there like is perfect.

let me get this straight. You nerf down mesmers and this is it?
Good job. I’m so proud.
Let see how it works out now that people will start complaining about OP of some other class

But hey, don’t worry now that mesmers will be killed by rangers and eles we will have a lot of them complaining.
Have a nice day.

Ps. Nerfing down and re-nrfing down is the worst thing that can happen. I hate this, and I’m really starting to getting totaly angry of your kitten nerfs.
Just nerf down once and for all!!

This is getting annoying as hell.
People to play with that are good are not much. And 70% of them already have team to play with everyday.
My team started to play less and less and now is like 2 weeks since we last played. and in mid time I’m forced to play with people I don’t want to play with. Because they are bad as hell.

Paids never starts. It’s borring to wait and wait and wait.

There are no arenas or duels or other game types or battle maps or anything.
Only the kitten capture point. And 3 maps I know on memmory. It’s getting boring. And even more boring is not have noone to play with and have to play with people you don’t enjoy playing with same 3 maps over and over and lose time.
Why there are not battle maps in PVE and PVP in PVE…. and duels in PVE.
I miss so much go around with a friend or 2 killing noobs.
or just PVE and fight a few duels when i meet someone.

Idk. This is not the game I was hooping for in many ways.
And where is the GUILD VS GUILD?
Where are mounts?
ahh… You shoul’d have relissed the game 6 months later and with all this fatures. Like this im just getting kitten off when think about it.

This is getting annoying as hell.
People to play with that are good are not much. And 70% of them already have team to play with everyday.
My team started to play less and less and now is like 2 weeks since we last played. and in mid time I’m forced to play with people I don’t want to play with. Because they are bad as hell.

Paids never starts. It’s borring to wait and wait and wait.

There are no arenas or duels or other game types or battle maps or anything.
Only the kitten capture point. And 3 maps I know on memmory. It’s getting boring. And even more boring is not have noone to play with and have to play with people you don’t enjoy playing with same 3 maps over and over and lose time.
Why there are not battle maps in PVE and PVP in PVE…. and duels in PVE.
I miss so much go around with a friend or 2 killing noobs.
or just PVE and fight a few duels when i meet someone.

Idk. This is not the game I was hooping for in many ways.
And where is the GUILD VS GUILD?
Where are mounts?
ahh… You shoul’d have relissed the game 6 months later and with all this fatures. Like this im just getting kitten off when think about it.

I’m so sick of people calling OP everything that kills them. Well maybe is not the class but the fact that that player is rank 30+ and played 1000+ tournaments and maybe this guy have more experience then you, and you can’t kill him because he is beter then you. But you see the class he plays as OP because you don’t want to admit that you need to learn to play!

What do you guys think about people switching classes every time they think a class is OP.
Man it just make me sick. Idk.
Lock everyone to 1 or 2 class for 1 year befor can change, or pay a 200 gold fee to be able to switch.
And make that your lvl in Pve is your lvl in Pvp
ranks you get in Pvp.

This is like a desiese.
1st month (Everyone thinks Thief is OP) +35% thiefs players
2th month( everyone thinks Ranger is OP)-20%Thiefs players +30% ranger players
And so on………..
This will never stop. There will always be guys that will complain about Op about someclass.

I really don’t see a solution to this dhou.
Once I read a very good coment to explain the situation about OP.

“Dear -ArenaNet-,
Paper is over powered, Scissors are ok.
Sincerely,
Rock”

I live in constant fear of nerf.
I don’t care, buff classes up or whatever, just don’t nearf down anymore anything. I’m a step closer to quit, everytime that you do.

Find a solution to AOE dhou.
The AOE, In mass fight or in small places it really makes the difference, and now that you can’t change utilies in battle It’s even harder.

Ps. About mesmer… Leave mesmers alone, high burst = made of paper.
Hit him 3 times and is dead, even less : D

And honestly learn to play and deal with situation and classes and bunkers and bursts and cond and AOE and everything.
Until you do you have no right to complain.

You will lose against the 1 that you don’t know how to deal with, but he knows how to deal with you.

Thank you all so much, perfect answers.

Mhm, Thank you for the help.

So my question is.
In PvP, you got this sigils that you put in your weapons.
Are this sigils in Pve to?
In Pvp im running with 60% to fcause 5 sec bleeding on crit. Is this in pve to?

Are the amuletes from PvP presented in Pve to?

Looking for serius players that like me enjoy to play with everyday if possible.
Rank 30+
Gandara
My rank: 31
If you interested send me private message or tell me your in-game name here if you prefer and we will speak in game for more.

There are classes that can use 1 set of weapons and utilities all the time.
There are classes that need to change utilities and weapons in order to fight a certain enemy.
So What the heck? There is no balance in this!!
And the grand finale of this is Ele. They have 1 weapon. And 4 elements to switch whenever they like. I feel like this is giving them an advantage more.

*Another thing that has been bothering me for very long but never mentioned.
Asuras. They are so hard to click. And when you lose target on Asura, again waste a tone of clicks and time to you finaly get it back.
And to see what are they doing…. Is almost inpossible to see every time you want to.

Hello, I would like to know if anyone knows how to get Runic weapon in pvp.
Is there anyway of forging it?
It’s unknown rank, what this means? how you get it?
And any other unknown rank item?

Thanks for any help.

*Getting constantly nerfed down. Which pisses off everyone. You have any idea how it pisses off when you get nerfed and re-nerfed and re-nerfed. omg It’s driving me crazy, and not only me. Everyone one says the same. In my guild…friends…..
We had enought of this!

• step 1: Feel like dueling
  step2: Log in game
  step3: Hope to get lucky and find a room 1-3 players in
  step4: Ask for duel, hoping they are not afk, or experimenting or whatever…
  step4: after fight… (wait for respawn) or ( Lose 30-70sec to get health back and get back to the point to fight)
  step5: Get interoputed constantly!!!!!@@@@@
  step6: after 15mins most likely room will get a lot of players… and forced to move to another room.

Please do something about this. Make rooms, for duels, like 4 people alowed in.

And stop nerfing down classes. Or do it but in 1 big pack.
You know the 5 steps when somebody dear dies? well we are reviving thos 5 steps every time you nerf down.

Quoting.

So. Lemme get this straight.

Thieves have stealth and plenty of evasion on attacks.

Rangers have invuln and plenty of evasive attacks

Warriors have blocks, endure pain, and plenty of mobility to get out of hefty situations, plus access to stability.

Engineers have blocks, knockbacks, blinds, dazes, stealth with combo field

Necros have fear, death shroud (they get it worse here, admittedly)

Guardians have blocks, aegis, protection, invuln, heals, stability

Eles get shock aura, knockdowns, best mobility skill in the game to get ouf of danger, plenty of healing, blocks, knockdowns, invul, stability if they go for it.

But mesmers aren’t fine becuse of blurred frenzy

Learn to play.
Every player that has a bit of experience knows how to evade blurred frenzy + very predictive attack.
As when I see a warrior running to me with the bulls charge, i know that HB is comming, and I try to do something about it.
So befor you psot a problem, that is a problem only because you don’t know how to play your class, take the time you would spent writing insane posts to practice.
And if you are not rank atlest 25+ you have no right to complain here about classes, because you still don’t have learned to play.

bdw. For blured frenzy to be eficacy atack need 2 skill waste. #3 and #2
And another ps. mesmers Without blured frenzy as defensive skill as well as attack skill, mesmers would be dead in A LOT OF SITUATIONS.
And as you were told, BF is the only mele attack that mesmer has to deal damage.
+ This attack actualy make mesmers “weak” in a certain way. “forces them to come closer”.

So changing this is most likely out of consideration.

They get paid for making game . ^^

What is going on. First I’m sorry for my bad English. It’s been more then 2 months that I specalize in PVP and only in pvp. I enjoy pvp.
Why people like pvp not in gw2 but why people like pvp.
If you ever played chess you know the feeling. (I’m the best, i crashed you, I’m beter then you, I’m smarter) Well this is my caracter. I enjoy being beter then others. This is why i love pvp. Beat other people, that makes me feel good.
Perssonaly i don’t really care much about team play if I’m the best alone. Sure i like win as a group. But there is no bigger sadisfaction then being able to be the best on my own.

Pvp in gw2 is in 65% “paper/rock/scissors” a>b, b>c, c>a
Winning against another betwen player that are experienced is in 65% in ( build, class, weapon, utility skills)
Why is there only 35% of skills required to win in 1 on 1? there is no way a determinate type of class and build wins against me. There is like no way. Only in rare cases that they got lucky because i lower my guard.
And there are builds that are for me nearly inpossible to beat.

Question: You guys think that is balanced?
I really get the feeling to be playing a Paper/rock/scissors game.
The hole point of me doing pvp is to be the absolute the best against everyone. And considerating my skills and experience in pvp lossing because someone has a “anti my build build” just pisses me off.

Another problem is downed system. In tournaments you have this pros that keep resurecting eachother for ages… I like the downed system, but is OP the system. Atlest you could do to be able to be resurected only once every 10minutes.
And if you get resurected you can’t resurect another at full speed… like 50% slower.
(you were wounded, its even logical-.-)

I beg you to get as the ARENA. Why, o why arenaNet, why you can’t give as duels??? We beg for it, we want it. We even go in browser doing duels just to be interupted by everyone else coming in the room.
We love to be the best only us not as a team, it’s the human nature, to be competitive, beign good in a team come only after being the best on our own! . Atlest in most of humans it’s like this.
I will quote what ArenaNet sad (No egos, no prima donnas, no rock stars; just people you respect and enjoy working with.)
*Everybody has EGO
*Everybody want’s to be a rock star
*I don’t know what is prima donnas.

Maybe you don’t want to give as duels until you make the 1 on 1 more good?

Another thing in pvp. There is only Tournament to play and browser to get bored in or farm glory.
Why aren’t you adding Arenas??
Like tournaments for 1 on 1? that would be lovly amazing, gorgeus. Like 80 people.
And duels?
Capture the flag?
Death match?
Castle wars? (take under siege a castle and try to take it) Or (Defend from the siege) Or even 2 castles and fight .

And………
PVE!! adding…wait for it….DUELS, yess WE want duels.
PVE!! Meaking certain points on the map BATTLEGROUND, yes meaking a lovely battleground .or Idk… like a patches in the future, making parts on some maps that can do PK.
PVE!! We want, MOUNTS.
You probably have no idea how much we want this things.

Another question, When was getting the game, i was expecting a more player versus player oriented game………………. Everyone wanted this since the begining of online games times, AND THAT IS THE REASON ONLINE GAMES BECOME POPULAR!
So why do you tried so hard to make the game a single player if is multyplayer?

I want a competitive game where i can be the best against everyone if I’m the best, not to be forced to change build and weapons depending on who i wan’t to fight and what role i want to fight.
You wanted to get rid of holy trinity. Well you created a new holy system that took the place of holy trinity, i would call it Holy Paper/rock/scissors system.

Ps. Well if you play against a guy that is not experienced and is using a kind of build that is “made for crush yours”, well i will win anyway, because he is noob .

If you play against a skilled and experienced level, even if is not pro, and is using the right build and weapon set, you are in a lot of trubles.

Team Vs Team, well my only complain is about down state reviving and reviving and reviving. Just make that 1 player can be revived only once every 10 minutes. And once is revived can not revive another player with usual speed.

. Fix this, O.K ? <3

I do only pvp. Its frustrating that no mater how much you play pvp, you got nothing in pve. Like exp, or money, or anything. heh… anyway, why i don’t do pve?
Simple. Why i play MMO? because i like player killing. Real players and not NPC.
And the thing that there no duels in pve and no battle ground on pve maps. just disapoints me. And I’m not motivated to play a single player game in a multiplayer game. And still don’t get why we can’t have mounts or flying mounts if we want them :/.
and why we cant have duels in pve and open battle grounds in pve. and PK.
This is what made the history on mmo.
Its ok to change into something better, but don’t forget what you are. A mmo and no a singlerplayer game, with a option of multyplayer fights against each other. This reminds me of COD, with swords and bows.
And my perssonal opinion not that is not ok for me, is that there is to much relay on others.
I don’t regret buying this game, is just that is not what i expected in certain ways.

And ps.
Rangers are overpowered!!!! machine gun is less deadly then a rangers short bow, traps swords and dagger.
This is just not normal that he shoots fast as light and even go invissible. and is even capable of fighting mele.

Rangers are overpowered now.

When get hit by certain condition ( i don’t know which because in fight you get hit by a lot of conditions)
you are not able to use skills until you switch weapons. :/ can you please fix this. o and bdw this is in spvp. Thanks

Could be possible one day to get experience for PvE in PvP?
I spend almost all time only in PvP world. Would be nice to get levels in Pve when playing PvP.

2. Would be nice having some kind of glory rewards to use in PvE to. That would motivate more PvE players go to Pvp.

3. My perssonal request, I would love and hope that i will see one day the Gw2 duels (1v1) (2v2) (3v3) (Guild v Guild)

4. Death zone. A part of Hard of the mists could be (All V All)

5: Buy with glory special tittles to see next to the name even in PvE.

6. (Castle V Castle) . A map, where there are 2 Castles
And the point is whatever you think is best.
my ideas..
To hold certain points or steal the “flag” and bring it to the our castle alive.(which gives huge amount of points)
Or destroy all the “key positions” on enemy theritory and casttle.
And if no tactic win is goten. The teams that reach the max points win.
My idea is that here the players in teams would be huge. Like 30v30 or 50v50 or 25v25.

7. To have a table of day and week most suceseful players. Like top 15 best players of the week. Top: Kills, tournament wins……
The reward of being on this list is for you to decide.. Maybe even something to be useful in PvE.

8: Make a new special armor that is obteined in PvP to be used in PvE. Like extremly hard to get.
I think that this would connect PvP and PvE a lot. And a lot of people would start doing more Pvp because of this. At start even I wasn’t so in Pvp Because the connection betwen Pve and PvP is not here.

What do you guys think, please let me know.

Thiefs have a hard time now.
I will talk about mesmers. How can a thief beat a mesmer now 1 on 1? heh…. skilled mesmer has 80% of winning.

I finished monthly achiviements in less then 2 days -.-

There are so many thief haters. There are so many people taht actually are not playing a THIEF!! So you clearly don’t understend things that I’m speaking about.
2x dodge, 2xskill evade + 1attack up of 50% weak attack =no attack option for atlest 3 seconds. After that you have 1 attack again.
And if in this time you get plenty of damage you are in trouble.

So many people talking about other builds.
1: you don’t know my build, and i will never tell about it.
2:Try to play a thief for 1 month + and you will see that what you tough you know, was just 5%.
3: I tryed a lot builds and finaly came up with the best possible build for thief FOR my kind of playing. The way i love to play is this build the best.

Someone up there wroten that i should L2P because I’m in trouble with decent warriors now.
Try to imagine a warrior that hits you down on hp for 1/4+ of hp every time you get attacked.

Let’s start with what i hate.
I hate having the fear that next update that is coming will ruin my class completly, that I spend months to master.
This feeling of fear is not nice :/

I like every one play games for fun. But my fun is being better then others. Being the number 1. Being the “king” this is my idea of fun.
I just like to be the best, i play only for being the best. And have enough of bearing updates and updates that are ruining “balance” even more.
I’m seriously considering the idea of just stop playing, because i live in fear of next update. And every update till now was bad for me. So its a psihologic pain wait for weeks to the relis of new pain update.

Anyway.

I play a thief and a warrior.
Thief my favorite class that i play mostly.
I just love playing the Thief.
1: Thief takes insane damage when get hit.
2:Since last update damage that deals is very low compared to befor.
3:Since last update thief is dead 50% dead
4: An skilled warrior is now a winning warrior against thief. If thief doesn’t attack the warrior by surprise.
I just can’t speak in details of every detail and class that is wrong. In few words… Thiefs has now
medium- very Low hp/medium armor/ very low defense/very low survavibility = decent damage-high damage.
Now you have to have in mind that thief is a body to body fight. contact, ok?
Now why don’t you try to imagine what happens when you get hit 3 times and you lose 3/4 your hp and you deal 50% less damage then befor.
You probably die if you fight a skilled player.

I’m a very skilled player. And now fighting decent players I have problems.
For what i can feel, now thiefs are like a profession that you regret putting in game : /
They can’t feed in.

Now in browser you have 16 people on 2×2 meters. Of course thiefs have great advantage of invisibility and high burst. but that is browser. unskilled players running like chickens and spamming skills around.
I can say. Any of thos unskilled players with any class have not more then 5% chances of beating a skilled player.

Befor the last update. In tournaments, thiefs weren’t that much overpowered as everyone likes to cry about. Maybe you could just lower the Dancing daggers by 30% and leave cloack and dagger like it was beffor.This is my opinion.
And ps. I don’t give a kitten STD about what unskilled players thinks. Learn to play then speak.
If you don’t agree with me, I have a question for you. Do you let your newborn childs teach you things and command you? Sir noou

35% of times the winning a fight was thanks to dancing daggers.
kitten 35% of times winning a fight was determinated by cloak and dagger.
Let’s just say it 2 most inportant skills in first 5 skills for a thief was maded 83% less efective.
Now. Are you kidding?
1.67 sec= 1 initative
10 initiative = 16.7 sec
83% less damage on 16.7 sec

Thiefs most of the times has the “golden time”
The time a thief has to kill someone. In that time… most of utility skills are used + heal skill used. And the damage thiefs take is to big to survive much longer in combat.
After that a thief is a dead thief (most of the times.)

You took 70% of our wining possibilities away. Just by that.
Man. really what the hell? Good luck fighting a warrior now. Even befor was hard, what is now? for not speak against other classes. Enginiers, or mesmers. For god sake guardians, rangers? for god sake rangers. or necros??? yea, against necros? what can we do now? they have all this dead pets around them, or surviving capabilities or heavy damage. In a prolonged fight with them….. kitten This ruined thiefs man.

I knew they would ruin a lot with this update. Thiefs life is now a hard life. Good luck killing skilled people of any class. All that damage taken and nothing in return. that is just crazy. that is crazy. No way. They will make a new update in time to fix this crazynes. But untill then We have to play in this mess chaos.

barti.7685 mate you sad you are necro. You are long ranged. Guess what. Thiefs to do serius damage needs to come close range most of the times..

Ok dude, Hammer: Mighty bow (range 300)
Zelots embrace (immobilize)
Ring of warding (preventign you from run away.

Sword: Flashing blade (teleport to your target)
Zealot’s defense (range 600)

Scepter: Chains of light (immobilize) (range 900)
Smite (range 1200) Damage 3705

Shield + other "no damage take skills)
A pain in the but ( my personal skill)

Great sword
Leap of faith (range 600)
Wirling wrath (range 600)
Binding blade ( pulls your foe to you )(range 600)

Utility skills………….. TON of usefull skills 1 of them
judges Intervention
teleport to your foe + burn all foes around

Condition builds heh.. Try to take down a few classes with conditions build. good luck, I really mean good luck. Thiefs in PvP should not use condition damage because is just not worth it.

RefferKeeper@

I agree there are other builds I tried them in the past. A thief that is focused on surviving is damage week as hell. And thief is not a point holder or battle supporter. So what’s the meaning having a thief in team that does the job of guardian or engi or ele or necro but is doing it less good then they would.?
Thiefs HP goes down very fast. That means surviving for thiefs is the biggest problem. Any skilled thief trys to avoid damage as much as he can.
Now.. avoiding the damage doesen’t count at all. because in a prolonged fight you evenctualy die against professions.

Thief is a “contact” fighter and has something like a ranger or enginier defense.
But the difference is…
All of the proffesions above are LONG RANGED proffesions
Thief need to go close range to fight if want to do real damage (most of the times I sad it! most of the times)
and against a warrior or guardian….
and even when fighting long ranged proffesions there is still problem. Tiefs want to come close and long ranged proffesions want to stay away. hehe. Guess what.. In that time thiefs can get ton of damage…

I’m not an Elementalist but I understend the feeling of being hit hard. Sorry.
Befor this update, the balance was good in Tournaments. Now.. its all a big BS.
Now some classes are really underpowered and this make some classes overpowered.
Now against skilled warriors is almost inpossible to win. They have a TON of HP.
Now explain me how are you supososed to kill a warrior that got 19k+hp
When each time you attack them you lose atlest 3-4-5k HP and in prolonged aproach you lose 10K HP or more. that is crazy. no way… killing a skilled warrior is now a matter of LUCK. and dodging every theyr “killing move”

barti.7685
No it’s not!
Guardian have a lot of teleport to you skills
a lot of immobilize skills and long rage skills. I really don’t think you ever played 1.

Bro IN TOURNAMENT a thief can’t be GLASS CANON because dies to FAST.
That means IN TOURNAMENT (real good fighters and NOT browser noobs)
YOu won’t see a glass canon experienced thief.
And NOW without this, a thief is poweles in a lot of ways.
As I sad in BROWSER thiefs will still be killing in same way they did. BUT tournaments and experienced people ain’t noobs as you see in browser.

This is 83% damage taken
6 iniciative for cloak and dagger and 4 iniciative for dancing daggers.
After this 2 attack you have 2 INICIATIVE LEFS that means… on full iniciative bar wasted you make 83% less deamage. This is crazy.