The only thing rangers lift is a plate full of bread for the bg commanders
does that bread have some half pound roasted dolyak patty in it? BG commanders dont eat bread alone, they eat meat. like dolyak meat, add onion and tomatoes with ketchup and cucumber. – if not you will be considered an upleveld pug which will be sent back to kessex-queensdale champ farm run.
i am not sure why this buying guilds and stacking, coverage is being used as an excuse by trolls here? all T1 server knew that the league was coming, JQ did prepare, SOR did as well, guilds transfers, BG did the same thing. we did OT, we did check our coverage same as all others, each of the three servers did want to win just as much as everyone else. so there is no one left to blame but the server itself for the results.
Congrats BG on Anets first league championship! It was close for awhile but when JQ’s finest hour Oceanic/Sea is unable to win the PPT battle by a wide margin it’s apparent the end is near as ZD will take advantage of the minimum resistance afforded during JQ’s least manned play time and another 5k+++ to the lead.
Have fun with your golden doly’s, make sure to share a screen shot!! With this win I believe you guys can take week 7 off (well deserved).
Yes, I admit I ribbed you some as it was all in good fun in a video game of all things. No hard feelings
While I appreciate the early congratulations, the match is not won until at least Thursday:) Both JQ and BG have pulled amazing come backs before, so a mere 8k lead or even 20k lead is not guarantee for win.
Do we not agree JQ’s strength in numbers is Oceanic/SEA? the fact they were unable to push back hard during their peak ppt hours says a lot of which way this match is gonna end up.
And it was precisely the early EU/EU time (BG’s stronger time) a couple days ago when BG got beaten by JQ and lost its lead then. .
Couple days ago during the WEEKEND? Of course EU time during the weekend ZD will face resistance. You should know by now coverage never comes into play until the school/work week.
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this is the greatest post i have ever seen
hello maguuma! what trait build you recommend for this lovely runes?
From my Experience with Maguuma So Called Roamer’s is when its 1vs1 they start running for the hills or just run into they find guildies they turn on you right away once they out number you.
Nice screen. Did you learn tower hugging from JQ or is it just an innate skill in T1?
I don’t know you tell me should i initiate that 1vs10? I actually got chased from your tower side to this side by all 10 of these maguuma’s, If it was 1vs1 2vs1 i would gladly fight it. This is pretty much all i have ran into all week while roaming, Guilds running zerg like tactic’s
That’s true but I noticed exactly the same types of groups from BG in ruins, that’s probably the real reason they’re out there. It doesn’t seem a very solo-friendly place at this tier but I’ve found plenty of good fights and duels in the last few days roaming mainly between the camps. Mostly BG but also some SoR. I have to say this match is much better roaming than last week where literally every JQ would run from a 1v1 unless there were 2 or 3 more just out of sight… but maybe just anecdotes.
I think the real reason you haven’t found many Mag roamers is because there are so much more of you, while in NA primetime where mag shows up in force, it’s not to roam.
yeah jq is by far the worst server, not a single person will fight unless they outnumber you.
after fighting jq numerous times in the past, i was worried all T1 servers were going to be like that.
well i hope we on BG did not disappoint MAG with regards to the type of fight you guys wanted. also thank you for the fights MAG.
also noticed alot of SOR are roaming already you can see them in EB and BLs 1 up to group of 5. it was nice. they too have pretty good people.
From my Experience with Maguuma So Called Roamer’s is when its 1vs1 they start running for the hills or just run into they find guildies they turn on you right away once they out number you.
its heida on the right side. maybe you can just try to point and bow maybe they will respond?
i was hoping Mag will blow BG and SoR out of the water here in PvF but up to now theres nothing but builds and armor stats PVT being cheese pve, roaming you got more you tower hump being thrown around which is weak kind of troll. oh i miss the SoRs.
man this thread is full of PvF roamer uplevels, wtf are you trolls doing? you guys are slacking. man i miss IRON TW and SOR trolls, i thought maguuma would destroy BG in PvF.
hello maguuma, roamed for almost 5 hours, 2 hours in MAG BL saw no one. 3 hours in EB fought VR, iLL, AoN, PYRO, i must say we share common thing we all hit hard.
wow we are up against maguuma, i hear a lot of disturbing things about you guys, JQ returned to t1 after fighting you guys they seem to lost something, one JQ was even in a strapped jacket mumbling maguuma. my friend also returned after fighting your roaming guys he spent 5 hours in the shower shaking and crying.
The guild Legends Never [DIE] started a thread about the current matchup (that appears to have been removed) titled:
SoR Legends Never [DIE] Vs ALL OF BG
In it – claimed to be the first post of any of their members – they said that:
1. They’d embarrass BG’s “lacklustre” WvW guilds.
2. They could spawn camp BG every night if they wanted to – but didn’t because that would be “childish”, and
3. That BG could not defeat them – or any server – in open field fights.
The Youtube video here shows what happened when [DIE] met the BG militia I was commanding last night in EB.
As it stands at the moment AFTL with a group of 10-15 not 25+ as some people state appears to be the first EU guild into battle now facing blue maps including our own and BG in numbers waiting for us outside our spawns. I don’t blame them they are bored and if there is a fight to be had during EU they know laying in wait for SOR’s EU to log in is what they must do.
AFTL runs havoc however not recently due to an absence of map commanders and were attempting to prop maps up solo not good as we are getting burned out leaving spawn and returning within 5 mins unable to rally sufficient numbers to break out and setup a defensive position to work the map. Some days we fair better but with SOR there is no consistency throughout the week in coverage and attendance Monday was great for us two blobs SOR and BG fighting over Briar tower on SOS bl next day the complete opposite just a BG blob uncontested with SOR thin on the ground.
With Wrex’s absence IRON appear to be less flexible in providing commanders for maps and the population issue across the maps is keeping them from being able to assist us as they can’t be everywhere at once propping up every 10-15 man group facing greater numbers.
However AFTL’s stance remains the same, sheathing weapons and sitting out WvW is out of the question. Rallian’s you either stand with us or simply get out of the way! blunt i know but if people choose not to fight that is their prerogative not ours.
SOR militia needs morale boost. i do think you can drop one of them Pacific Rim, at the edge speech on TS. will that work?
“Today, at the edge of our hope, at the end of our time, we have chosen not only to believe in ourselves but in each other. Today there’s not a man or woman in here that shall stand alone. Today we face the monsters that are at our door. Today we are cancelling the apocalypse!”
Maguuma PvF mercenary for hire, willing to troll for highest-paying server of this matchup (I think we all know who that is).
how much do you charge for your services kind sir? is it all the way this week match ups or all the way to the league ends? please provide a ball park figure.
i think most guys are not giving credit where credit is due, true strength of blackgate is with its militia, blackgate locals, they may be pve/x but they are really committed at times, you will see them roaming and escorting yaks and scouting, most wvw guilds field 15-20 per BL.
ive seen pve people roaming and even owning wvw guilds in 1v1 or group fights.
not to mention most of them tend to roam when map chat calls the quickly gather.
Trickery IV – Flanking Strikes. Move to Master tier.
This is just mean. We already had our burst builds nerfed with Mug, now we no longer have access to Flanking Strikes and have our burst again……lowered….a 5% increase in damage for a Master tier is too little, at least change it to 10% to be more in line.
If this stays then the 25-30-0-0-15 build becomes obsolete….
if this happens we cant kill for jack kitten. just a sad state of thieves. where do anet come up with these ideas? based on QQs of uplevels in the forums i guess. GG anet.
D/D didn’t get nerfed. Increasing base initiative gain by 33% is a pretty big deal.
It’s more than a big deal. It’s a MASSSSSSSSSIVE buff to all thief specs.
i only ask that you guys leave Flanking Strikes where it is and not move it, you see it is already really hard to use taht once your spotted and seeing most guys are soldier specs these days we are at a disadvantage having very low hp and armor. at least its some bonus if we get them off guard.
Keep in mind that we can still change/tweak some of these things, so please don’t freak out. We’d love to hear your feedback! We’re currently playing with these changes and already making some small tweaks as we speak.
i agree almost everything there but to move the flanking trikes to master is just too much, 1. its hard for you to catch your enemy on the side or back once your spotted. 2. most builds are toughness vit nowadays. you aint doind didly squat to gaurdians, wars and mes, engis necros. 3 all traits below that is utter useless.
seriously anet where do you even come up with these ideas?
Trickery IV – Flanking Strikes. Move to Master tier.
i agree on almost everything here but this should not be moved to master tier, catching the enemy on the back/side is already a hard task once you are spotted, since they are nerfing perma stealth it should remain. also now a days most build are heading towards toughness and vitality.
you are just destroying the class by nerfing all normal usable skills.
have any of your testers actually really used a thief and fought with other classes?
really anet?
you should check necros, warriors and mesmers stilll they getting buff. what a joke anet.
Now I might have had stacks of vulnerability applied by someone else.
Is it wrong?
you said that pvp is not a place where everyone has full endurance to focus a target and dodge … so i think it was a group fight, and in that kind of situation you can have vulnerability applied by someone else, and the thief can also have 25stacks of might applied by someone else.
the point of an instagib build is instagibbing ppl. you were the target, too bad for you.
not a big problem.
right on, and to counter instagib build is bunker build of ele and wars and guardians.
indeed the build worked. he survived the initial burst. the problem is he did not use his skills and took auto attack + another cloak and dagger and i bet another backstab if that wasn’t enough.
You can’t expect to survive a gc thief only with stats.
Now I might have had stacks of vulnerability applied by someone else.
Is it wrong?
you said that pvp is not a place where everyone has full endurance to focus a target and dodge … so i think it was a group fight, and in that kind of situation you can have vulnerability applied by someone else, and the thief can also have 25stacks of might applied by someone else.
the point of an instagib build is instagibbing ppl. you were the target, too bad for you.
not a big problem.
right on, and to counter instagib build is bunker build of ele and wars and guardians.
I don’t have a stunbreak, no. I don’t need a stunbreak when fighting any other class in the game because I have 22,000 HP and nearly 2,800 armor. Not even hammer warriors are capable of stunlocking me to death in the span of a couple seconds, which really says a lot.
I LOL’d so hard.
This conversation is over, you’re absolutely hilarious. Here’s a tip, carry a stunbreaker and stop lying, it’s bad for your argument.
i LoLd so hard IRL. you compare hammer war with burst thief… ok conversation is over.
Also, I never said that you had any more than four seconds to react, other people said that. Judging by the, again, almost non-existent information you gave in the OP (a combat log screenshot doesn’t count, and I’m not asking you to post individual everythingz, just a screenshot of your gear + stats with the combat log, you on the ground dead would also help, but isn’t necessary), assuming you weren’t killed after the first combo, you had at least three more seconds to react after the combo was done, and that’s not even including the time that it took for the Thief to get in range of you, use his utilities, and do the combo beforehand. The fact that you then took half of an auto chain and ANOTHER CnD to die means that you clearly had plenty of time to react to the situation.
I WAS DOWNED BEFORE I GOT HIT BY THE SECOND C&D. I CANNOT MAKE THIS ANY CLEARER, SO PLEASE ALLOW IT TO REGISTER THIS TIME.
The whole “the time it took for the thief to get in range” bit is ridiculous, too. It’s not difficult for a thief to get in range of you during a team skirmish or when he runs up on you while you’re fighting someone else. So because I lack prescience and couldn’t use ESP to detect the incoming thief, and perfectly dodge his opener, I deserve to die instantly despite my gear? Right.
Hi i am a thief who runs DD full glass 3 signet build and at time DP. and i can tell you i can hit way more than that. and i can second run cnd + infil + another BS.
i would like to see your armor set and trait build. i assume that thief ambushed you or came in with stealth heal.
i saw 1 TC Thief yesterday with out tag not sure how it was he was just running around SMC with outter walls up and even he gets hit by Vet Guards he never slows down then after a few minutes he is inside SM 2nd floor running around never engages.
your video is good, i think you need more better competition though. you can come visit T1 NA i think youll find the best there. maguuma, bg, jq, tc, db has some of the best
Mez got into an altercation with ICOA recently after they got fed up with him trolling map chat and slagging off our commanders. Mez vowed that he’d “destroy” ICOA, if posting false info in the matchup thread is the best he’s got I doubt they need to worry.
Mez is a good man who helps his server from what i have seen. im sure this will pass.
and wanted to say goodbye to SUPR/CA been a blast running with you guys. i hope you find what your looking for in your new server, wish you guys all the best.
nah, DD is as strong as it is you just know when to use skills, what we need is more damage since we have least impact in zerg fights, more range and damage on that steal without traiting it. if i make a suggestion re make the signet of shadows, movement mix it with signet of infiltrators. and signet of shadows make it stealth duration and refil endurance, and make basilisk venom daze not like ordinary stun for 2 secs.
As Zeke said, use Valkyrie armor, and the rest Berserker. With consumables and a high up-time on fury, you should still have 80%+ crit-chance (with full Exotic and Ascended), and at least 100% crit-damage (higher depending on food/runes/etc.).
Do you have an idea for doing a lot of damage without dying ?
I would recommend adapting your utilities and play-style to maintain high survivability. Melee will most definitely be more difficult to adapt, but it’s possible. I play P/P because it’s much easier to maintain pressure in any situation, and it performs incredibly well for that purpose.
In regards to Dagger Storm, it is very effective in certain circumstances, but it can also fail to contribute anything significant to a fight, and also result in an easy death (e.g., boon-strip/corrupt + interrupt). Basilisk + Lyssa works much more universally for me. I only miss Dagger Storm for disrupting large groups before a push (e.g., Shadow Step dead-center, Dagger Storm, Shadow Return, and push sidelines with the group). Although, I also enjoy playing a shock-troop, so that might be the reason. ;P
what i use for zerging is sharpening stones, truffle meat steak was it, for 100 power 100 prec. you can also use butternut squash 100 power and 10% crit damage.
i use signet of shadows, assasins signet, blinding powder or shadow step and dagger storm. stay on the side dont run head on and clash with the zerg.
use SB, spam that 2 and trickshot, if you are already nearing or will get caught use skill 3, that dodge cripple shot. do not use your dodge as it is reserved when you need more distance on the sides and forward or when you run out of inititative.
Who in the world is commanding jq on ebg? Like kitten are you doing man, make up your mind.
LOL that must have been Molasses Muscles. hahaha he’s…an ok guy. Bet he’s a new commander or something. I dunno…
wow that guys is already in JQ? he was on BG a 2 months back, even pugs were confused when following him around.
i remember he said he was rank 2 in the world in map chat then has a perfect build he would not die in battle, after 5 mins he was killed by a random sor pug while he was killing Oakheart in eb.
