I hope this newly revitalized BG gets matched up with SOR next week to see what type of coverage the fairweathers can bring you guys.
I hope we get matched up against SOR WITHOUT JQ. Its clear now that JQ without SOR isn’t close to BG score wise (most of the rating we have gained is from them, NOT from DB) because last week the scores were almost dead even, and now we are decimating them.
I think there will be a similar effect if we face SOR without JQ.
It’s hard for me to know to make of this to be honest, other than the possibility that SoR tends to focus BG more than JQ. That can’t be the whole story though. Still, if it’s not JQ, then who? I’m not so sure the end result would change with a different 3rd server. I would be pretty interested in seeing how SoR v BG v TC would play out though.
There is also the possibility that the result of this matchup was influenced by JQ and DB that would focus each other more than BG. Also, as some would hope in a SoR v BG v TC matchup the chances are BG and TC would focus SoR more. I would love to see us taking a shot at being decimated in a SoR v BG v T8 server.
Ascended items and infusions both will cost a less than normal amount of laurels, and a badge cost as well. (Ascended accessories will remain laurels + ecto, but with new WvW rank reward chests you’re going to be getting a lot more Ecto!)
So we’re two weeks in since the patch that added rank reward chests, and I was curious about people’s experiences thus far.
Personally, I’ve opened 25 chests since the patch, and have gotten 24 greens and 1 yellow, which salvaged into 2 Ecto. Not counting the coin from chests and vendoring the greens, at a cost of 50 Ecto and at my personal Ecto rate thus far, I’ll have enough Ecto to purchase 1 Ascended Ring in 12.5 months.
Now, I’m a moderate player, logging around 15-20 hours in WvW per week in mostly large group play (zerg if you want to call it that), so I realize this plays a part, but even if I doubled my playtime I’d be looking at 6 months. Tripled? 3 months. Maybe I’ve just had a bad streak on the RNG?
For the record, I’m not bringing this up to whine or look a gift horse in the mouth. I think it was great on Anet’s part to add them. I also realize that there are many other ways to acquire Ecto, ways that I will most definitely use. But I can’t help but refer to the above post from Colin and wonder what the heck he was talking about, because so far, my experience has been a far off shot from “a lot more Ecto”.
I think “a lot more Ecto” is suppose to be in the chest and not a salvage byproduct. Only the first would qualify for new content while latter it’s just old news. Haven’t got or heard about anyone getting Ecto from chests so far. I think there is something wrong, either the ratio is too low to be perceived as a lot more or it didn’t add whatsoever to the new content.
Many good fights this week. I have seen no mean spirited play and in fact a lot of very good sportsmanship. I hope you have enjoyed the match.
As to the ongoing matches, they are randomised;
The team who wins the weekly arbitrary T1 matchup get the T1 Medal this week.
The teams that score better than their previous ratings indicated, go up in rating.
The teams that score worse than their previous ratings indicated, go down in rating.
The rest is just bluster and forum bluff.
See you on the battlefields.
There are no more tiers with the new system so nobody gets any tiers medals and the ratings have to do with matchups and statistics, nothing to do with the battlefields.
They got a SEA guild from KN, XF or whatever. And now with HB making a comeback, they will have just as much EURO if not more EURO than SoR. BT and VK also finished transferring over.
It’s anyone’s game, BG definitely has the population edge over anyone else though.
HB is not “back” and definitely not enough to outnumber IRON. You don’t even play on BG, stop making claims about what EU coverage we have.
I don’t think BGs population disadvantage is as big as BG has been making it out to be in the past month(s). I’ve seen what BG has done this week with their numbers. They are a lot closer (if not even equal) to SoR than they would care to admit.
Perhaps it is the fact they are winning which pulls more of their fair-weather players into the matchup, I’m not sure. But the playerbase is there.
Yeah, let us use unbalanced matchups to make claims about servers populations! That makes total sense! And yes, lots of fair weather players out. But that is how WvW works.
Our matchup is much more unbalanced and BG is doing better against stronger odds than SoR so I think the claim is valid. BG numbers seem to be even higher than SoR and shouldn’t have any problems winning in a direct confrontation.
We really shouldn’t be making any guesswork here. SOR vs BG will be a good mach. Who will win? We’ll only know when it happens or if it will happen at all.
^,.,^
It’s not like SoR and BG never met. Besides this week, it was only SoR vs BG vs JQ for quite a while now. SoR won head on for the past 5 weeks in a row, BG needs to beat that to earn the number 1 N/A server. I’m sure that BG is looking forward to meet SoR again especially after this week morale boost.
I have question, how can you tell that you are doing a lot better than last time knowing that SoR is holding back ?
We can’t, and in turn, TC strength can’t really be gauged this week as well. If we didn’t have Dragon Bash and we ha another competitive server in this matchup like DB or FA, this week would be a different ball game.
The Dragon Bash is on all servers but I think that SoR started to push a bit harder just to keep the rating in check. I agree that another T1 or T2 server would be more challenging as well.
Ahhh Aurust come out to play finally. How nice of him to show up finally.
Honestly I have no idea how much SoR is holding back on us, cuz we’re doing a lot better than the last time we faced them.
I have question, how can you tell that you are doing a lot better than last time knowing that SoR is holding back ?
The score now is no different than the average of our previous matchups even if we holding back.
If you are asking, I would say that TC has grown about as much as SoR since last time we met.
All this has no relevance, most importantly while we here is that we enjoy the game and we are having fun together.
Majority of our players dont do pve. Also we are starting to get worried about our rating as BG are about to go above us (Ahh what are Anet thinking), which means we may well get another one sided match up next week.
The new system is messed up considering that a sever can outrank another from rating outside of a direct confrontation. Any competitive ranking needs to be transparent and should never be based on gambling. The random roll can favour a server or another rating outcome based on the matchups. regardless of the true server strength. There is no way to verify the random roll and there is no 3rd party involved to predict and verify the results. It seems that Millenium site also waiting for ANet to provide the random roll (through the API or leaderboards) before the end of the matchup so they would then be able to predict next matchups.
That could happen in the old system as well.
It never happened within the same tier, for example in the old system you had to defeat the number 1 server to take it’s place at least 1 time. Same for 2nd and 3rd place and same for every tier.
This is incorrect. If I’m remembering correctly, SoR made it’s debut at #2 in Tier 1, jumping from green in Tier 2. The outcome of the Tier 1 match did not matter.
Let’s make it simple, under the old system the number 1 ranked server has always been decided within the Tier 1 by direct confrontation, nobody has jumped on the first place unless they directly defeated the champion. For example, there is something wrong with the system if BG makes it number 1 while SoR is undefeated.
Majority of our players dont do pve. Also we are starting to get worried about our rating as BG are about to go above us (Ahh what are Anet thinking), which means we may well get another one sided match up next week.
The new system is messed up considering that a sever can outrank another from rating outside of a direct confrontation. Any competitive ranking needs to be transparent and should never be based on gambling. The random roll can favour a server or another rating outcome based on the matchups. regardless of the true server strength. There is no way to verify the random roll and there is no 3rd party involved to predict and verify the results. It seems that Millenium site also waiting for ANet to provide the random roll (through the API or leaderboards) before the end of the matchup so they would then be able to predict next matchups.
That could happen in the old system as well.
It never happened within the same tier, for example in the old system you had to defeat the number 1 server to take it’s place at least 1 time. Same for 2nd and 3rd place and same for every tier.
Come on guys, no excuses, TC’ers and SoS’ers don’t start taking it easy on SoR.
Majority of our players dont do pve. Also we are starting to get worried about our rating as BG are about to go above us (Ahh what are Anet thinking), which means we may well get another one sided match up next week.
The new system is messed up considering that a sever can outrank another from rating outside of a direct confrontation. Any competitive ranking needs to be transparent and should never be based on gambling. The random roll can favour a server or another rating outcome based on the matchups. regardless of the true server strength. There is no way to verify the random roll and there is no 3rd party involved to predict and verify the results. It seems that Millenium site also waiting for ANet to provide the random roll (through the API or leaderboards) before the end of the matchup so they would then be able to predict next matchups.
I am a little bit worried that what SoR is doing right now is going to give ANET the misconception that their matching system is working……
I think this matching system will be around for a while even just because is new. This system is all about lower servers leaking the rating points from the higher servers to bring the rating closer and allow for all kinds of matchups. That will happen regardless of the server as every win increases the system expectation. As the time goes the ratings will get closer and the chance for blowout matches increases. Nobody likes that and eventually everyone will get bored and have a problem with that. That is probably the only way to have this system replaced.
Just keep in mind that SoR is trying to keep this matchup fun and not to be a blowout. There are quite a few strong guilds and/or players vacationing from wvw this week as we are trying to keep things entertaining for everyone.
And that is not making us feel any better about things.
Well what do you need to feel better? For SoR to Green all the maps and siege up the north supply camps? WeeeEEeee that sounds real fun.
This week is good for us too though, we have a few people running tags for the first time and a lot of new players on the field. We are trying to turn a poor match up into a good fight is all. If SoS was replaced with another T2 or T1 server it would be another story, I do feel TC can compete in that scenario and even give us a run for our money. SO instead of crying about it, take advantage of it and whoop that ass, make us pay for it =D
Out of curiosity, which SoR guilds are taking vacations this week, or aren’t at full strength?
A lot of us prefer bashing our heads against superior forces, even if we get our butts kicked. Nothing else lets you know where you really stand.
Though on the other hand, TC tries to do the same thing when we’re put in lower tiers – let the regulars take breaks, make room for newer commanders to get experience, etc. Not faulting SoR on that, just curious.
I stand corrected but all the major guilds are fielding way lower numbers, leveling lowbies and/or new commanders. TW is sitting this one out. At this time alot of militia and new people are getting more experience. The weekend overall score gap hints at the potential and there is no need to prove anything. The matchup needs to be fun for all 3 sides at least that’s how SoR sees it fit.
All respect for TC and SoS that come out to fight and give us a run for the money!
P.S. I’m always lucky that way so just don’t kill me while I’m doing the daily…
If there is one thing that this match up has taught me, is how stacked the tier 1 servers are compared to tier 2.
You could say the same thing about T2/3 as well. Actually, I think it’s even worse when a T2 server is “demoted” to T3 for the week. FA and DB have spanked T3 harder than SoR is spanking T2.
If there’s one thing we’ve learned, it’s that SoS would/should have been at the top of T3 before the matchup changes.
In any case, the top three tiers could be locked in by rating right now, and would be excellently stacked against each other.
Just keep in mind that SoR is trying to keep this matchup fun and not to be a blowout. There are quite a few strong guilds and/or players vacationing from wvw this week as we are trying to keep things entertaining for everyone.
After reading some of the above posts, I have come to the conclusion that, as much as Maguuma relied on ACs, they have nothing on TC. :P Eleven ACs for one gate is twice what I’ve seen Maguuma use. Though, to be fair, Maguuma is also known for using 6 superior trebs for a paper wall (I was there). As one of the new RE transfers, I look forward to fighting SoR tonight.
Welcome RE to the fight and I wish you guys the best on TC!
(Also, please stop dropping ACs and Ballistas when you have more people than us, it’s just bad form)
From what I saw last night, this is probably the most ironic statement I have come across all week.
also, THIS. At one point we counted 13 AC’s on ONE door of the bay courtesy of TC.
Because SoR doesn’t also use gobs of siege?
Not as much as what I saw last night at Hills and blue keep when we had one major group map hopping for hours? I added a question mark too so that my reply looks almost as snide as your reply does.
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery <3
But i’ve seen as much siege usage from SoR as i have from FA, BG, TC- pretty much everyone. As long as siege is effective, groups on every server will try to max out as much of it as possible at different times. To think any server is more siege dependent than other has always been a silly idea to me, often siege dependency isn’t a server issue but a group issue.
The reality is that we are diverse and unless we are all assimilated not all the servers are the same either. Regarding AC’s all the servers are using them but not in the same amount and/or in the same situation based on skills and strategy.
A lot of players have complained that recent AC’s boost do not promote active gameplay, skills or strategy.
But you do have a point. Everyone does use ACs. It’s just a dang shame that ArenaNet thinks they’re helping WvW. All they do is give baddies a chance. It doesn’t seem all that bad, but it doesn’t encourage people to defend objectives with tactics besides the placement of a siege weapon. The game should encourage you to get better, not reward you by sitting in a safe area on a wall shooting down on a big amount of players with an overpowered, easy to obtain piece of garbage.
To balance this new overpowered AC crap, ArenaNet should make those things have a limited amount of ammunition, or require much more supply than 30/40.
I want to say great fights everyone and keep up the good work!
It has been a great week of fights this week! Whoever you get matched up with at reset the best of luck to you. I’m pretty sure that TC feels the same way as FA in that we need a much needed vacation away from each other. SOS you have brought a lot of good fights and I hope that you get a better match up this week.
Hopefully tonight SoR gets matched up with TC or any of the T2 servers.
Emotes can be worth a thousand words if you use them occasionally and don’t spam them.
Just the other day I got rolled by 5 JQ whilst solo escorting a yak. Managed to get vengeance off before I was stomped so I /cry. The 5 jq left me until my time was up and I dropped dead then they all /salute.
Cheers guys, made the pain of losing my friend Dave the Dolly a lot more bearable.
-sniffle-
It is the intent that matters which transpires through the emote used, they can be uplifting or demeaning pending on intent.
If anything, SoR has more emote spammers and I usually tell guys off if they do that because it is pretty douchy. I prefer to tell people to bow if we’ve had a good fight, but emote spamming is usually done by a handful of individuals from all servers.
Sure we do, but I’ve only notticed the BG emote spammers are quite active in MERC zergs. I agree it’s completely douchy and i even go out of my way to tell the guy who laughs over somebodies body after a duel to have a little respect and how kitten rude it is.
If you think we do it more, you’re dreaming though. Sometimes it’s pages and pages and pages from you guys. And it happens with the MERC zerg. Maybe you have all the BG trolls following (you got oxide with you, so that’s a start), but yeah, it is only an observation. Or maybe it only happens when Magikarps’ is leading :PPP
I really want some of that stuff that SOR is on, must be the good stuff. Must be how they justify all the trolls in there “great community”.
What BG has to deal with all the time from SOR, and if they can wipe us it can go on for like more then a min of just emote spam. Talk about class.
These are just all BG spies though following you around every night thought right? Trying to make your server look bad though, cause SOR never does this kinda stuff
Let’s not talk about class here…
It’s obvious none of those emotes were directed at BG in a disrespectful way, there are no corpses jumped on and it’s just someone spamming surprised and one laugh all far away from BG tower and players. You had to tell BG players not to spam emotes which mean they already did previously to the screenshots, Roxiis still waved after the fact so most likely those SoR players were just responding. The posts above refer to emotes spamming like laughs and sometimes jumping over dead bodies.
Nice try though.
Emotes give the game a human feel.
IMO, Just dont constantly emote the same person over and over again.
People sometimes spam emotes like surprised just because of the animation and they are not even directed at anyone. In order to be directly rude it has to be over dead bodies or show it is directed to a player like Server Rank Player laughs at Server Rank Player.
Anyhow, I do not think this will ever go away because it goes back and forth.
If anything, SoR has more emote spammers and I usually tell guys off if they do that because it is pretty douchy. I prefer to tell people to bow if we’ve had a good fight, but emote spamming is usually done by a handful of individuals from all servers.
Sure we do, but I’ve only notticed the BG emote spammers are quite active in MERC zergs. I agree it’s completely douchy and i even go out of my way to tell the guy who laughs over somebodies body after a duel to have a little respect and how kitten rude it is.
If you think we do it more, you’re dreaming though. Sometimes it’s pages and pages and pages from you guys. And it happens with the MERC zerg. Maybe you have all the BG trolls following (you got oxide with you, so that’s a start), but yeah, it is only an observation. Or maybe it only happens when Magikarps’ is leading :PPP
I really want some of that stuff that SOR is on, must be the good stuff. Must be how they justify all the trolls in there “great community”.
What BG has to deal with all the time from SOR, and if they can wipe us it can go on for like more then a min of just emote spam. Talk about class.
These are just all BG spies though following you around every night thought right? Trying to make your server look bad though, cause SOR never does this kinda stuff
Let’s not talk about class here…
It’s obvious none of those emotes were directed at BG in a disrespectful way, there are no corpses jumped on and it’s just someone spamming surprised and one laugh all far away from BG tower and players. You had to tell BG players not to spam emotes which mean they already did previous to the screenshots, Roxiis still waved after the fact so most likely those SoR players were just responding. The posts above refer to emotes spamming like laughs and sometimes jumping over dead bodies.
Nice try though.
Did SoR changed their gameplay back when SoS was still in T1? I remember they were passive and keeping their own corners and not really playing for ppt.
SoR did not change the gameplay, we always enjoy the fights more than ppt and we actively did what we could fighting against the odds while trimming the fat and growing stronger day by day.
From the looks of things this may the lowest change in rating in T1 ever. I guess we’re all performing as Mr. Glicko expected. Congrats on being average guys! (cracks a beer)
That will change quickly when we get matched against lower tiers servers.
Don’t really care what happens, Wagonbrand or kitten Coast, either way. Both can field comparable numbers to BG/JQ/SoR. TC and SoR have something in common, server wide blobs per map. Makes WvW look bad when that kind of approach to it is not only necessary but required.
Dat PPT… So boring.
No offense guys but I have seen BT only running in server wide blobs. Lately, I have been on the BG BL but it’s becoming a common denominator that the size of BG zergs during N/A prime time are the biggest outnumbering everyone by at least 2:1.
Interesting perspective. And if it is true, impressive if they’ve got the entire server all on the same page. How that is even possible I don’t know though, so many different players and guilds.
I dunno I’m still trying to figure that one out.
SoR certainly seems unified on the battlefield from our perspective,if you know what I mean.
And you seem lost. Cuz the small group action is down a few tiers.
Has been common knowledge for months now.
We enjoy ganking lost zerglings, and wouldn’t stand a chance against the small group action down a few tiers. ;-)
Actually small groups ganking stragglers is no different than zergs running over smaller groups. A small group is a zerg versus a single player. The numbers win so the small groups promote zergs teaching players that the strength lies in numbers. Personally, I only enjoy winning against the odds.
Just a heads up, I think the video validates the players complains about the AC boost and the reasons why the change should be reverted or considerably revised.
It doesn’t promote active gameplay, skills or strategy.
This is not about the servers involved.
Hi all, as the title says; Epic stonemist hold (or at least what I perceive as epic)! It’s a live recording of our channel FYI (so, don’t expect any fancy commentary/etc).
Summary:
Basically, BG had Stonemist (central keep on EB), SOR pushed in and killed our lord. Prior to this, War Machine (one of our main WvW guilds), had our server drop back to the upper third level, utilize Stonemist’s supply, and setup a flurry of arrow carts for support above. Meanwhile, myself, along with another commander pushed back in and a mesmer eventually portaled reinforcements up top. From there, along with another commander breaking in from the south, we drove SOR out and retook SM!
It was a really cool moment, grats to BG (although right now we’re getting our butts kicked!).
Disclaimer ** – This isn’t meant to be some kind of big kitten thread; SOR and JQ are always challenging and fun to go against. Simply meant to be a fun/share the moment type of thread. Hope ya enjoy!
But you do have a point. Everyone does use ACs. It’s just a dang shame that ArenaNet thinks they’re helping WvW. All they do is give baddies a chance. It doesn’t seem all that bad, but it doesn’t encourage people to defend objectives with tactics besides the placement of a siege weapon. The game should encourage you to get better, not reward you by sitting in a safe area on a wall shooting down on a big amount of players with an overpowered, easy to obtain piece of garbage.
To balance this new overpowered AC crap, ArenaNet should make those things have a limited amount of ammunition, or require much more supply than 30/40.
Please do not take this the wrong way but the video validates the players complains about the AC boost and the reasons why the change should be reverted or considerably revised.
It doesn’t promote active gameplay, skills or strategy.
Thank you for posting this and maybe something gets done about it.
anyone watching the t2 thread if how good sos is doing vs 2 t2 servers shows really how much all of us here in t1 would blow them out of the water in numbers
I’m only going to speak for TC, but a good portion of our population is taking a much needed break. The score doesn’t reflect our servers normal output, nor the output when we decide to rally people from outside WvW. SoS and FA are good opponents, but the population difference would be very noticeable if it was put forth. But that wouldn’t be fun for anyone, especially not us. What’s the point of winning by a large amount if it causes the other two servers to not even want to come out?
If you want to see how we do normally, look at the last 3 weeks with Dragonbrand.
I think it goes back to the post above, same thing will happen more likely with any of T1 facing the T2 servers.
GG fighting you guys on BG BL last night. I knew once I saw the tactics that Coron was on the map then I looked on my friends list and sure enough!
I can only say that the uncoordinated group tactics can be very effective because clearly nobody has any clue what is going on.
Awesome fights all around!
We have stated these points numerous times before, but somehow, it was always wrongly perceived as boasting, server propaganda because some people can only relate to their own set of standards and everything falling outside of that it is not accepted.
I don’t think it’s really about that, but more about constantly being shoved down people’s throats. That said, you look good in a hooded cloak Zen!
You got us all curious now, what does that even mean?
There seems to be a widely held set of beliefs about what is the right way to play this game and it seems like many of them won’t diverge from those beliefs even if it means they might lose.
Like I’ve heard many of the say on TS that they won’t help guilds transfer over for example. A lot of them talk about balancing the tier out instead of dominating it.
I’ve even heard some of the guild leaders say that they’ve turned away guilds that were interested in transferring just because they thought it might unbalance the tier.
I never really heard anyone on BG get overly concerned about that sort of thing.
I also don’t see as many guilds put in big overtime like I did on BG.
I have to say that since the beginning of time ideas and ideals have driven any kind of progress.
I thank you for being honest moreover while you seem to disagree with such ideals because it is an objective point of view. We have stated these points numerous times before, but somehow, it was always wrongly perceived as boasting, server propaganda because some people can only relate to their own set of standards and everything falling outside of that it is not accepted.
I don’t understand why servers complain about double-teams …especially when you have the highest WvW population, and you’re in first place. That is the exact situation when you should expect to be double-teamed…not complain about it. WvWvW was designed specifically so you are double-teamed in that situation, to provide some form of parity.
Now if you’re in last place, with the lowest WvW population in your tier…well then that just sucks, but it’s how the game works.
I think it’s pretty simple. SoR has asked for 2v1 because at the moment we do have stronger presence in some of the time zones and during those times it is the right thing to do in order to have a more balanced match and good fights. The problem is that we still have some covearge weak spots and 2v1 hurts at that time. Having said all that, SoR is the only server that have ever asked for 2v1 to set an example for the sake of better fights and to make this match more balanced. I’m sure that at times with more or equal coverage we can take turns focusing the strongest server or just even the field.
Garrison capped.
SoR got double teamed.
Good times, good times …
2 hours to double team and cap garrison? Good times? i would be embarrassed.
I would be too. Especially if I was one of many Blackgate players consistently crying about double teams.
Double teams happen in general, but from what I’m seeing this was planned in advance. Such a tragedy to have happen in T1, but we welcome the challenge. More bags for us.
Natural 2v1, wasn’t planned.
But keep crying anyway.
I don’t think anyone is crying especially when SoR is winning the war.
I remember that Indo in his speech asked for 2v1 fights against SoR to make this match more challenging, more so he is actively helping with recruiting guilds for BG and JQ. One example is the BT guild which if they have joined SoR it would have completely imbalanced the match. I would love to see that type of unselfish attitude from everyone to cover each one’s weak spots and coverage.
Let’s all work together helping each other to make this a better match.
If what other SoRs said is true that you have queue on a number of maps, you may risk having WvW-ers not able to participate in any WvW at all should you be accepting NA guilds.
There is always room for organized guilds versus pugs if we really wanted that. The queue’s are only at prime N/A and normally are short even at that time. Anyhow, I was talking about the weak spots, BG needed BT more than SoR and that is the recommendation that we made. Not a big deal, it just shows that we care about the matchup more than any rivalries. I am sure that we can all do the same and help build each other up so we have fun fights 24/7.
Garrison capped.
SoR got double teamed.
Good times, good times …
2 hours to double team and cap garrison? Good times? i would be embarrassed.
I would be too. Especially if I was one of many Blackgate players consistently crying about double teams.
Double teams happen in general, but from what I’m seeing this was planned in advance. Such a tragedy to have happen in T1, but we welcome the challenge. More bags for us.
Natural 2v1, wasn’t planned.
But keep crying anyway.
I don’t think anyone is crying especially when SoR is winning the war.
I remember that Indo in his speech asked for 2v1 fights against SoR to make this match more challenging, more so he is actively helping with recruiting guilds for BG and JQ. One example is the BT guild which if they have joined SoR it would have completely imbalanced the match. I would love to see that type of unselfish attitude from everyone to cover each one’s weak spots and coverage.
Let’s all work together helping each other to make this a better match.
Great fights everyone! Just noticed, rating wise the 2v1 seems to benefit more JQ to gain rating (+10.2) mostly from BG (-8.6) and very little from SoR (-1.6).
Anyhow, who cares about points, BG and JQ keep up the good work, I know rallians love the challenge.
Just remembered about my first encounter with TW shortly as they made SoR their new home. I like to believe that running with them made me a hardcore wvw player.
It is a fact that TW has greatly contributed shaping SoR into a competitive wvw server.
The horn of Helm Hammerhand shall sound in the deep, one last time!
Let this be the hour when we draw swords together!
Fell deeds awake… Now for Wrath… Now for Ruin and the Red Dawn!
GW2 doesn’t have new servers coming online, and it currently has no way to get cross-tier matches. So we need another mechanism to supply lower servers that deserve to move up with a source of rating points they can steal.
-ken
That is working backwards artificially boosting servers points above their levels when in reality the server strength remains the same. While everyone want’s diverse matchups nobody needs blowouts. As long the servers population is uneven and scoring system rewards coverage and population there will be diverse but some ugly matches down the road. The post below says it all.
The problem isn’t the first week of matchups. The problem will be a few weeks down the line when higher ranked servers have been bled of ratings points by being matched up with lower ranked servers. At that point it’s very possible for really ugly matches to occur.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they ran some simulations and saw that coming. Vizunah Square vs Vabbi in three weeks! Which is why they have gone back to rework this.
Exactly. The problem is that any rating systems are methods for assessing players/servers strength in games and not to fix them. The root cause is uneven population and scoring system which rewards coverage and population.
GW2 doesn’t have new servers coming online, and it currently has no way to get cross-tier matches. So we need another mechanism to supply lower servers that deserve to move up with a source of rating points they can steal.
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That is working backwards artificially boosting servers points above their levels when in reality the server strength remains the same. While everyone want’s diverse matchups nobody needs blowouts. As long the servers population is uneven and scoring system rewards coverage and population there will be diverse but some ugly matches down the road. The post below says it all.
The problem isn’t the first week of matchups. The problem will be a few weeks down the line when higher ranked servers have been bled of ratings points by being matched up with lower ranked servers. At that point it’s very possible for really ugly matches to occur.
Don’t forget to bump the thread so we get an official response. Especially moving forward, I think the results of the random roll should be posted at least 24h before the matchups.
I was wondering if there are any news about the next matchups considering we are only 1 day away from the reset. It seems that Millenium site also waiting for ANet to provide the random roll (through the API or leaderboards) before the end of the matchup so they would then be able to predict next matchups.
Any positive feedback on this is much appreciated.
I transferred to SoR last week but it wasn’t because of any animosity towards BG or any of the people there I just thought it would be fun to play with new people and against old allies and so far I haven’t been disappointed.
Okay Leto, Hoots, TW and some others. How about we lay off the antagonistic Blackhole comments? I know there is a history/rivalry here but it’s pretty uncool to those who are out there every night, as well as those who have chosen to make BG their home but may be struggling with attendance.
Regarding transfers to JQ, I personally think they may be at a bit of a disadvantage due to human nature. People tend to like to see the “big dog” fall, and the “underdog” rise and become the new “big dog”. The fact is, of the current T1 servers, even with their recent slump, JQ still has 12 more T1 wins and 15 more medals than the next closest server. Until there is a bit more balance in the overall win count, this may be a continued drag in their efforts to recruit WvW guilds (assuming my thoughts on the matter are even remotely valid).
If you want TW to lay off the antagonistic comments… the best way to do that is to go out in the field and fight them.
No doubt they’ll send the new hope off to SoRbl without any warnings to bring tissue or ointment like they did poor [rise] a scant few weeks back.
Tell me liquid, how many MORE will be enough, when there’s nobody left?
This isn’t a math issue, it’s a guild coordination issue. Theres only two options to surviving SoRna. Iron has removed one from the table, the other requires you look IN to BGna rather than outside for more cannon fodder. Recent history repeats itself tonight.
