Well, the only way SoR or JQ was going to get into SoR Hills was to use a glitch or broken skill to do it.
The two Omegas and multiple Alpha rushes/attempts over the last day and a half must have taught them that to win, you need broken abilities because it’s all about the fights/open field and not our sore ego.
I guess the perspective from some BG it’s either SoR and JQ hacking or 2vs1 BG all the time, there is no other explanation for us to win.
Actually, it seems that none of the N/A servers are quoted as medium population servers including Eredon Terrace.
ET was Medium when FoE made the decision and started to transfer. At some point during the week it moved to high probably due to incoming players.
Your information is different than mine, as far I know the problem arised right from the beginning and the explanation given was that WvW population does not represent the server population.
Anyhow, I’m glad if they transferred without paying the fee.
I doubt this is really BGs last hurrah but if it is then what a way to go.
In actuality this is probably just certain players and guilds overplaying to settle the masses and to prevent other guilds from jumping ship.
Smart move really but not sustainable.
It’s neither. Two guilds transferred, for reasons that had nothing to do with BG, and sparked primarily due to transfers to Medium pop servers being free last week. Their departure was not jumping ship from BG, but rather jumping ship from T1. BG as a server has nothing to prove to it’s existing guilds and players, other than continuing to work together, be respectful to one another and find ways to improve our game.
Also, people still don’t seem to see that there is always a server in T1 playing harder (more) than the others, driven largely by the amount of effort put in and result of the previous week(s). It’s a constant war of action and reaction, of pushes and pauses, of momentum and stagnation, driven partly by the events in the game, and partly by statements made in this very forum.
BG won the match before last. JQ said “oh no you didn’t”, and responded with force last week. SoR followed suit, and as the reality of finally scoring ahead of BG set in, your guys pushed and played hard in the final days of the match. BG seeing the futility of the week, took it easy, and responded this weekend with renewed vigor.
Anyhoo .. such is T1. There is no explaining what happens. There’s no rationalizing victory and defeat. All you can do is get in game and play for your team, and let the tide take you.
Actually, it seems that none of the N/A servers are quoted as medium population servers including Eredon Terrace.
Interesting paradox that SoR is growing stronger not yet showing and BG quite the opposite…
Yes…let’s draw conclusions from a holiday weekend and paint them as fact.
There was a holiday weekend on all servers… but only 2 celebrated.
My thoughts are that BG is trying to prove they are still going strong and nothing happened.
I was wondering what could cause this crash. I have been playing the game for a while but now the game is crashing when i try to log in the game. It will go past the password up to welcome screen but will crash before loading the characters. I tried to repair few times but to no avail. Any help is appreciated.
—> Crash <—
Exception: c0000005
Memory at address 01bcf130 could not be written
App: Gw2.exe
Pid: 1404
Cmdline:
BaseAddr: 00400000
ProgramId: 101
Build: 17418
When: 2013-03-30T16:37:02Z 2013-03-30T12:37:02-04:00
Uptime: 0 days 0:00:19
Flags: 0
The tool tip for the second tier of the Cannon Mastery and Ballista Mastery abilities shows the wrong percent increase. The tool tip for both of these should say that it increases damage by 25%
Honestly it doesn’t make no sense by comparison with the defensive stats against siege weapons increase (25% vs 5%) unless those are wrong as well. They should balance each other out offense and defense.
Great fights over the weekend, for what little time I got to play. Had a fun night hopping between BG and JQ BLs on Sunday. Now if only I could get those pesky pre-cursors to drop like everyone gloats about!
You may have a long wait Thundar. Let me explain. You see, in typical MMO design, the tougher the creature the better the loot. Anet has decided that this should apply to WvW as well. Thus we’re dropping pre-cursors for our friends on JQ and BG. Meanwhile, all our opponents are dropping for me are ruined plant fibers… Wait I take that back, one JQ did drop a white, level 15 dagger. I got 15c for that beauty!
Take that back, my plant fibers are far from ruined
For example, cannons shooting toilet paper and pumpkins during Halloween. As long as we don’t take away from the game, that’s key, [it] may be nice if we can find ways to pull that off.
Because that will attract a lot of PvE players….
1)In any event this has gone off topic and 2)I realise that our posts have crossed paths previously, 3)your awkward persistence makes sense.
1)Agreed. 2)Possibly, I do not keep tabs. 3)You have quoted Colin Johnson and made a comment reffering to me…
Please stay positive, all that is necessary to break the spell of inertia and frustration is to act as if it were impossible to fail.
Lets put it this way: do you think ANet would have worked soo hard for the new WvW patch, culling fix included if it wasn’t worth it?
Is that a trick question? Define “working soo hard”. No they should leave culling in (wait! what?) You know I did a comparative in a post earlier right?
There is a large majority of dedicated players that will play only WvW and the game will most likely lose most of it’s player base if it doesn’t get fixed.
Mmmhmmmm…… Mile F. recently stated about 30% log on for WvW.
But seriously did you read the link I posted above before typing your reply?
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I’ll copy and paste this here for you:
Colin: I would prefer we do it more, you know, story-driven I think it’s more compelling and I think that’s more where we are headed. I’m curious actually, that’s really something that we’re walking down that path now. Is that compelling to your guys? I mean, take everything that happened in January, and condense it down to say, a weeks worth of content and then the next week there’s more story that builds on that. Is that something that would interest you guys?
Absolutely. It’s really good.
Colin: Is there anyone here who doesn’t like this idea?
Well, it doesn’t affect those who do WvW much.
Colin: I think that’s fair. It’s really not intended for the WvW specific player.
Are you kidding me? You just taking bits and pieces out of context to explain your belief. I just posted below the entire question and answer.
“Colin: Is there anyone here who doesn’t like this idea?
Well, it doesn’t affect those who do WvW much.
Colin: I think that’s fair. It’s really not intended for the WvW specific player. Maybe your keep commanders get replaced with specific NPCs per month or something about the story of what’s going on. We may be able to take elements out of the [current events] and understand how we’d have that. For example, cannons shooting toilet paper and pumpkins during Halloween. As long as we don’t take away from the game, that’s key, [it] may be nice if we can find ways to pull that off. "
He is talking about WvW and attracting some of the PvE players into it by implementing some fun events. Please do not confuse people.
I wonder why would you think that WvW is a money sink for ANet?
The problem is that WvW is more complex and pushing the server limits due to large amount of people in one small area interacting with each other and the enviroment at any given time. To make a story short culling, skill lag have ensued and that takes alot of resources to address because it is rooted into the game engine and related to the hardware as well.
And then you answered your own question -.-
I guess we hear what we want to hear… Lets put it this way: do you think ANet would have worked soo hard for the new WvW patch, culling fix included if it wasn’t worth it?
WvW is actually making most money to ANet hence paid transfers. There is a large majority of dedicated players that will play only WvW and the game will most likely lose most of it’s player base if it doesn’t get fixed.
Isn’t it obvious guys, come on, WvW is a money sink for ANet they don’t want to invest more money into it.
They have long neglected it because their focus is else where; PvE, sPvP.
As the WvW community we’ve struggle to try and get them to implement fair and useful things that seem relatively obvious and straight forward, like a good commander system, which we still don’t have.
Trying to set up a system to detect information that happens client side….
Anyways your best report mechanisms are fraps and utube.
I wonder why would you think that WvW is a money sink for ANet? The WvW was not neglected but it is more complex and takes way more resources to fix all the issues as opposed to PvE and sPvP.
What makes you think it takes more resources then pve? spvp?
Theyve added 2, or was it 3, new maps to spvp. And how many new items and pieces of gear to pve? Dungeons? Fractals?
A lot of the WvW issues are not complex. Fair loot, how hard is it to just notch up the gold and loot drops a bit?
How hard can it possibly be to add an npc that accepts badges for more then just ptv gear?
How hard can it be to add a means to accumulate Asc. gear in WvW? they added a bunch of new items already over various updates, just not to WvW. They even got a daily system and a guild challenge system that awards asc gear. Why not WvW?
No, saying this stuff is hard to do is nonsense. The effort to implement these sort of features, measures and changes that would really help a long way are not that hard to do. Because theyve been doing it constantly since launch for every other aspect of this game. Just, not WvW.
The problem is that WvW is more complex and pushing the server limits due to large amount of people in one small area interacting with each other and the enviroment at any given time. To make a story short culling, skill lag have ensued and that takes alot of resources to address because it is rooted into the game engine and related to the hardware as well. It only makes sense to address the root cause or find a way around it for future developments before introducing any new stuff on top of that. I’m not trying to find any excuses for ANet, I’m not happy with the situation myself and I wish the situation would have been different. On the other hand I realize wishful thinking is one thing, and reality another.
Just keep in mind guys before we get too excited that possibly the new change to address culling might increase the skill lag. Lets be prepared for the worst, but hope for the best.
Isn’t it obvious guys, come on, WvW is a money sink for ANet they don’t want to invest more money into it.
They have long neglected it because their focus is else where; PvE, sPvP.
As the WvW community we’ve struggle to try and get them to implement fair and useful things that seem relatively obvious and straight forward, like a good commander system, which we still don’t have.
Trying to set up a system to detect information that happens client side….
Anyways your best report mechanisms are fraps and utube.
I wonder why would you think that WvW is a money sink for ANet? The WvW was not neglected but it is more complex and takes way more resources to fix all the issues as opposed to PvE and sPvP.
Ahh yea I get it, and no i get lots of loot bags, just jesus, the actual items are laughable. What the hell will we do with spikes and white items? xD But yea i guess its been planned that way sadly. I feel bad for all the people who only wvw, they must get garbage all the time.
You shouldn’t feel bad for anyone. That is the PvE mindset, people play WvW for the world vs. world aspect. The rewards and loots suppose to be improved with the new patch. On the same note, I can tell you there are wvw’ers that feel bad for all the people who only fight NPC’s all the time.
why anyone would brag about coming in second place is beyond me. Blue is the worst spot in EB for sure. Seriously though do you ever see the 2nd place team in major sports brag about losing in the championship?
I don’t recall anyone on SoR bragging about coming in second place in t2 above IoJ/TC for those many weeks.
You don’t remember them bragging about being where they were (2nd place in T2) despite their lack of coverage against a “stacked zerg server”?
Unless this is the historic grudge match please move on.
not sure why people are speculating KN is coming to T1 to replace SOR when they stated over and over that they are happy with life in T2 , and besides, SOR is still going strong in T1…….
That is because wishful thinking is one thing, and reality another.
You know, if there’s one thing that this week has shown, it’s that EVERY SINGLE T1 server deserves to be here.
SoR: They showed this week that when they really push for points, they can make things a real pain in the rear end for both of the “stacked superservers” they play against. They brought the pain in a big way earlier this week, ticking at 300+ even when their population should have been practically a nonfactor during those time slots. I don’t know what happened, but when SoR said that they were “Playing the PPT game” earlier on, they meant it. I don’t know how people can still make comments about how SoR shouldn’t be in T1 or anything, that’s a load of bull.
BG: Aside from that very first week in T1, BG has been a consistent competitor in T1, and consistency is certainly something that we on JQ can admire. Even if you aren’t pushing to the limit and burning yourselves out, everyone on BG has something to offer PvP wise, and there are a lot of classy guilds on BG that are just straight up fun to fight.
JQ: well, i’m on JQ, so i’ll be a little bit biased, but i think that our record/score speaks for itself. Call it coverage, or whatever you like, but the fact remains that T1 is where JQ is, Has been, and probably will be for a long time.
Anyway, some seriously good fights. my play time has been relatively limited this week, so i’m only on in short little snippets, but there have been some pretty crazy shenanigans going on. Around 9:00 PM Central, JQ was pushing hard to get our garrison back, with trebs from both sides, and just as we were about to push in and hit Garri really hard, SoR ninja’d it right out from under our noses xD.
“I really don’t have culling issues with my new iMac, even on high settings large fights are much better but then again I like staying in smaller groups like 15-20 on our side”
It is common knowledge that culling issues are on the server side and not on the client side. It is already announced to be fixed in the new patch.
I always go by if you tell the truth you don’t have to remember anything.
Culling is a combination of Server side and Client side issues. For the most part, the windows and mac clients should operate nearly the same in terms of fetching data from the server, however it may render it slightly different.
The difference is probably no more than 5%, if even that.
“we implemented a culling system, which imposed a limit on the number of characters that could ever be reported to your client. This meant that only the characters closest to you would actually get reported.”
World vs. World:
The End of Culling
by Habib Loew on March 13, 2013
This the truth. The culling system was implemented. Please stop the habit of wishful thinking and start the habit of thoughtful wishes.
Yes, I understand that. I noted that that was a limit that could not be worked around. I simply stated that the clients have different ways of rendering said data, which to the user and one who has no accurate numbers, could be misconstrued as a difference, which may exist on the order of a few percent.
Next time please read my comment before trying to refute something that I fully acknowledged.
Then we have the same understanding. It is not me that needs convincing. Next time please reply to the right post.
“I really don’t have culling issues with my new iMac, even on high settings large fights are much better but then again I like staying in smaller groups like 15-20 on our side”
It is common knowledge that culling issues are on the server side and not on the client side. It is already announced to be fixed in the new patch.
I always go by if you tell the truth you don’t have to remember anything.
Culling is a combination of Server side and Client side issues. For the most part, the windows and mac clients should operate nearly the same in terms of fetching data from the server, however it may render it slightly different.
The difference is probably no more than 5%, if even that.
“we implemented a culling system, which imposed a limit on the number of characters that could ever be reported to your client. This meant that only the characters closest to you would actually get reported.”
World vs. World:
The End of Culling
by Habib Loew on March 13, 2013
This the truth. The culling system was implemented. You cannot render it because it is not ever reported to the client side. Please stop the habit of wishful thinking and start the habit of thoughtful wishes.
“I really don’t have culling issues with my new iMac, even on high settings large fights are much better but then again I like staying in smaller groups like 15-20 on our side”
It is common knowledge that culling issues are on the server side and not on the client side. It is already announced to be fixed in the new patch.
I always go by if you tell the truth you don’t have to remember anything.
I run Mac Beta with a brand new $2600. iMac, you want me to screen shot a 60 man SoR zerg from an inner wall of them on an outer wall? Culling only effects open field battles and when the two groups collide for me now
Lets try again. There will be a patch to fix culling. The culling is on the server side and not on the client side and that is why they patch it. Please stop arguing over known facts.
I would say many of us spend half our time wishing for things we could have if we didn’t spend half our time wishing.
“I really don’t have culling issues with my new iMac, even on high settings large fights are much better but then again I like staying in smaller groups like 15-20 on our side”
It is common knowledge that culling issues are on the server side and not on the client side. It is already announced to be fixed in the new patch.
I always go by if you tell the truth you don’t have to remember anything.
“Other than the 60 SoR in SoR garrison that took it………and then lost it 15 minutes later.”
Virtsuoso.9761
“More like which side can abuse culling, but hopefully this will change come the patch. Save the chest trumping for the when the patch comes out imo.”
I wonder how can it be any culling problems while you see and count 60 enemy players. Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.
No, I know I am not.
Based on the battles that I have partaken, the organized SoR squads, though, win most of the times.
Well that’s not the same thing as saying an entire server’s WvW population is better at combat."
This is not PvP. The secret of success in battle lies often not so much in the use of one’s own strength but in the exploitation of the other side’s weaknesses.
Miiaah.5416
“as we were entering the commander says something about SoR having a stronger NA”. That right there is the truth, simple and concise.
Some people want the truth so badly but after it has been presented to them they deem it unacceptable. In the end, they create their own version of the truth which is more acceptable to their perception. They deny the truth, worship the opposite…
Zen.8497:
I think all this nonsense from some BG and JQ players simply stems from the fact that a third place server it is simply better at combat. All 3 servers know that and there are enough players on both servers to even admit it. Talking about been defeated by zergs and such while bad culling in place it is just a poor excuse for actually getting wiped.
There should be no hard feelings. You have better coverage and ppt around the clock which secures you the first 2 places.
“This is absolutely hilarious, but if it makes you feel better.”
Truth is such a rare thing, it is delightful to tell it.
I think all this nonsense from some BG and JQ players simply stems from the fact that a third place server it is simply better at combat. All 3 servers know that and there are enough players on both servers to even admit it.
You use the word “nonsense” to describe comments from JQ and BG players then go on to say SoR is “simply better” at combat and that everyone knows it.
There is a difference between knowing and admitting a fact. That is a judge of character.
I think all this nonsense from some BG and JQ players simply stems from the fact that a third place server it is simply better at combat. All 3 servers know that and there are enough players on both servers to even admit it. Talking about been defeated by zergs and such while bad culling in place it is just a poor excuse for actually getting wiped.
There should be no hard feelings. You have better coverage and ppt around the clock which secures you the first 2 places.
For those not wanting to click the link.
“Really enjoying having our new guilds, in particular MERC…”
Notice the “s”.
It’s common knowledge that more than one guild made the decision to move to Blackgate and that some Blackgate guilds offered some assistance to getting the final few members of those guilds over once the guild had committed to moving and had already moved most of their active members themselves.
Not sure what point you’re trying to make… This was all cleared up like 3 threads ago.
Good day
I think you haven’t been paying attention. He is just replying to KeeZee.7312 which denies the fact and blames it all on some kind of SoR conspiracy
Just want share a word for SOR Asian/Oceanic Prime here. (Been looking here and there and haven’t found a community forum for Asian/Oceanic SOR, probably due to language barriers. Apologies if this sounds like chest thumping but just wanted to let the asian/oceanic guilds and militia know my thoughts.)
I arrived on SOR about a month ago and have been running alongside with HIRE, SYN, SAHP, NYS, OCX, SEC plus other gents and ladies in WvW. It’s been tough, SOR is usually outmanned at the time slot with double digit PPT on most days. But I am really surprised that there’s hardly any negativity on teamchat, that alone is a blessing.
And though the mood might not be upbeat with JQ and BG beating on SOR BL at most times, the guilds and militia are not throwing in the towel. Seriously, I have been through the tiers from T1-T8 and I haven’t met folks like you guys, fighting even when the chips are down. It really feels like the folks are running with the NEVER GIVE UP, NEVER SURRENDER spirit.
It’s been fun and it’s honor pushing the front lines with you. Win or lose, it’s been awesome. /salute.
Fannwong Capslock
Well said. I have been running with these fine gents and ladies myself and I can only say: You are amazing, keep up the great work for this I am truly grateful!
Roses are red,
Violets are blue,
Post on the forums,
And be swarmed by Choo.
66 more Choo to go………….
Thank you, I appreciate that you’ve been so willing to offer this explanation and show that you do not have the capability to explain the logic/ideas previously expressed.
Knowing this, it is now very easy to simply roll my eyes and continue on with he knowledge that you’re a rather unskilled troll.
Thanks,
NightTrace
Let me put the Choo tinfoil hat on.
Blackgate paid SoS to break apart and transfer over to them so Blackgate could take second for 2 weeks and then do nothing the third week.
Ya, Choo’s reasoning makes so much more sense…../rollseyes
Did you just wake up?
I give you the benefit of doubt as you might have been gone for a while, look around your server and you will see the guilds that used to be on SoS not long ago.
So how many months will Kain have to come in First and SoR come last before Kain will see Tier 1?
Looks to me around three months, am I the only one that sees a flaw in the way Anet runs a ladder?
Lets rephrase this. So how many months will Kaineng have to come Fourth and SoR come Third before Kaineng will see T1?
I think I see a flaw as well but has nothing to do with ANet.
Yup I Play when SoR sleeps, and JQ dominates. Getting backdoored by 60+ in my prime time play gets old, because JQ can field 20-30 pug across all map and have FoO float and backdoor any action BG makes, because SoR won’t even take a camp for about 6 hours of play. Gets old quick, its why many want kain, if not kain anyone for that matter to split the forces so its not a non stop backdoor fest, by the more populated server.
Do you understand how 24 hour coverage works? " if not kain anyone for that matter" You realize Kain is the only server that can field coverage during that time. SoR isn’t alone in coverage gaps. KN is no competition for BG and JQ during the other times though.
KN will only make a closer match for BG and JQ. No one thinks Kain will come up and take 2nd or first place. (Or even do better then SoR) The point is Kain will slow down JQ in BGs weak time slots making this already close match even closer.
The point is – NO they won’t. They’ll only make it more competitive in the one specific time slot you play in. Weaker in the others.
That may be true but Kain has great coverage when JQ cleans up BG. If BG can keep up the same pressure during the other time zones and kain slows JQs PPT during our off hours BG can have a much better chance at winning. But your right with out SoR in the other time zones its hard how BG and JQ will do with out SoR there.
The problem is that reducing the ppt will not secure the first place for BG and secondly Kaineng before even attacking JQ might actually secure the easiest points first and have BG run at 0 ppt during WM prime time. Also, with little challenge from Kaineng during N/A prime time JQ will have nothing else to do but focus BG and reduce the points even more.
Overall, I would say be careful what you wish for because it may not be what you want.
Who said they came here to get number 1? If they wanted number 1 they would have gone to JQ. No one but them can say if they plan to move or not but its unlikely as staying on BG is there best chance right now.
It is already common knowledge that the SoS guilds transferred to BG in an attempt to beat JQ and seize the first place. Transferring on JQ was never an option for any SoS guilds.
And that map chat is exactly why a lot want Kain here, I would think JQ REALLY wants Kain in T1 more than anyone, when 20 mans are getting steamrolled no matter where they pop thier little heads out, yes they do get bored. Not sure about the rest of the world but Spring finally hit the Pacific Northwest in NA and that has to take a toll on numbers as well, across all servers of course but if one server has 100 extra people that is really going to effect those timezones. Is is spring in Asia?
Get over it already. Kain isn’t getting anywhere near T1 unless SOR quits completely. T2 is quite close and competitive. They are where they belong. Stop asking for other servers to do what you can’t in every single post and just live with how it is. It’s unbalanced, get over it and move on. The whole game has turned to kitten, and the constant whining in these threads is pathetic.
The gap is below 100 points already. Kain will get here.
You don’t get how the Glicko system works do you?
I get how it works. SoR is doing bad for what they have shown. Which they are losing points for it. I know once Kaineng gets close they will push even harder. SoR is starting to lose moral in my belief too. They were such a mighty server like SoS.
That is assuming Kaineng wants to be in T1 and that SoR care about being in T1.
“You’re absolutely right that BG will have to beat JQ one week to take first place. The question is: by how much? The smaller the overall point differential the smaller the weekly margin of victory has to be to secure the overall top spot. We are making progress albeit slowly.
Given the circumstances I do not think that people will find reason to leave. In fact I think people may find good reason to come here and help us beat JQ. We are not that far off.”
The evolution that you are seen is an aftermath based on BG moving from 3rd place to second last week. Watch the points after this reset as BG already settled on the second place.
Check this post above Asglarek.8976 that is how it basically works.
Actually if you remember the transfers started after few weeks of SoS coming second place so basically, ranking wise, they are back in the same place.
I just look at the facts and I call it like I see it. Also, thank you for looking at this with an open mind.
Truthfully I do not have enough information to either confirm or deny what you’ve said. I spoke without doing proper research but I do not know where to obtain all this information. What sources are you using?
I do know from looking at this: http://mos.millenium.org/matchups#NA that if our points stay steady before reset that the overall point differential between BG and JQ will shrink.
It seems to me that the path of least resistance to taking the top spot is to recruit more guilds rather than engage in another mass exodus
I might be getting this wrong but you seem to believe that overall point differential shrinking means that BG will slowly move ahead of JQ. BG needs to beat JQ at the end of reset to secure first place.
Regarding the last point that is assuming logic always applies, the history of all the other servers that went down show otherwise.
I think people are excited about Kain in T1 because they have numbers where numbers are needed to keep JQ in check, Kain also has no reason to keep BG from taking PPT from JQ when Kain is weak in coverage. There’s only one way to find out, hopefully it happens before most get bored with the stagnation of JQ fielding numbers wherever and whenever they want, BG trying to de-throne JQ and SoR doing what it can from stopping BG from taking first from JQ. Kain would bring a refreshing change in that I feel they would like to make the monster work for their wins.
Since you seem to have wonderful inside knowledge of the workings of JQ, could you put me in touch with your contact? I would have LOVED to be able to “[field] numbers wherever and whenever [I] want” yesterday when I was on. Trying to get a group going in BGBL (when we owned nothing), it took more than 15 minutes just to get 10 to start the breakout event.
And please stop with the stupid statements like “SoR doing what it can from stopping BG…”. It’s tired, and it honestly just makes you seem like an idiot. Grow up, get out on the battlefield and fight.
I can’t count the times BG has been taking a Hills, Bay or Garrison from JQ successfully and here comes the SoR zerg from the opposite side of a map to slow down BG when they could have taken one of those 3 targets and possibly 2 while BG/JQ battle. I get the tactic and it’s a great tactic when playing for the win. But when you can count the amount of times SoR has attacked JQ zerging BG on the hand of a High School wood shop teacher, then things become obvious and it has nothing to do with 2v1.
Taking down JQ is going to take a 2v1 for an extended period of time at some point, that point being Thursday of week 1 of JQ/SoR/BG, they brought out the calvary and Kain has coverage when it was needed most to slow down JQ. But then again JQ couldn’t field any numbers from Wed-Fri week 1 of JQ/SoR/BG could they most intelligent one.
Please stop blaming everyone else for your own short comings, you make your server look bad. There is no conspiracy, SoR actually focus more JQ than BG and it is pretty bad that you do not see that. Regarding Kaineng in T1, the results will be the same, take a screen shot now of N/A and one for Oceanic prime time just rename them opposite and that will foretell you the future. BG needs to win on it’s own and not wishing on a 3rd server to do the work for them.
If you think that your new transfers left their own server and moved onto BG not to get to the first place but just because you are nice guys you might have a problem when reality sets in. You can accept the truth or be in denial that is your choice bro.
But they are moving towards first place. They are closer now than they were when they moved away from SoS.
I won’t pretend to know what our recent transfers will do in the coming months but if they’re using your reasoning to determine whether to stay or leave then I imagine they’ll stay.
Actually if you remember the transfers started after few weeks of SoS coming second place so basically, ranking wise, they are back in the same place.
I just look at the facts and I call it like I see it. Also, thank you for looking at this with an open mind.
I totally understand SoR’s position this week, just head hunting to try to stay in Tier 1, even though they don’t belong here, as their score keeps showing they just don’t have the coverage to compete. I would think that if they where really double teaming BG because a few guilds on our server ran their mouth, that they would negotiate a place in second. Unfortunately not the case, so who knows what is really happening behind the scenes. But there you go, SoR 0 ppt, 11pm server time.
I read all the bad talk about BeastGate, and I am not going to respond to it, I just want to point out that we took on the #1 server in north america, we are fighting off their pet dogs at the same time and we still hold a strong second position in Tier 1, good job to everybody on BG that is spending so many hours every day in WvW to make the difference, and to all of our commanders out there, and all of our amazing WvW guilds that fight regardless of what anybody says.
Can’t wait until we push SoR into the tier they belong in and we match up with Kaineng again. I’ve been missing me some War Machine fights.
We belong here because their is no other world that can compete with us over time besides JQ (and BG for the moment). If someone else moves up, we will be solid in T2 and someone above us will fall and we’ll be right back in T1 again. Afaik there are only two consistent servers, JQ and SOR. We are the only who have have not fallen below T2 since our rise. Maybe thats due to some sort of loyalty characteristic.
If history repeats, SOR will eventually get some more coverage, beat BG, and BG bandwagoners will fall off causing them to fall down again. Much like SOS, IOJ and others.
What do you mean “for the moment” when mentioning BG? You forgot BG in your list of consistent servers, we’ve already survived fall from T1 before. We’ve never fallen more then one ranking spot in how many months? We dust the dirt off our shoulder and keep it moving.
If we were going to implode, don’t you think it would have happened already?
You have to keep in mind that BG it is not the same server since all the new transfers. They are the reason you are the 2nd stacked server but they are not there for the second place. That has proven to be a problem unless you can secure first place. Nobody has yet survived a mass of transfers out of their server.
Yes BG is the same server. It is still the same community here and that same fighting spirit. I am active on BG in both game and its community. The new transfers have fit in well and there has been no problems. Do you even Beastgate bro?
If you think that your new transfers left their own server and moved onto BG not to get to the first place but just because you are nice guys you might have a problem when reality sets in. You can accept the truth or be in denial that is your choice bro.
I totally understand SoR’s position this week, just head hunting to try to stay in Tier 1, even though they don’t belong here, as their score keeps showing they just don’t have the coverage to compete. I would think that if they where really double teaming BG because a few guilds on our server ran their mouth, that they would negotiate a place in second. Unfortunately not the case, so who knows what is really happening behind the scenes. But there you go, SoR 0 ppt, 11pm server time.
I read all the bad talk about BeastGate, and I am not going to respond to it, I just want to point out that we took on the #1 server in north america, we are fighting off their pet dogs at the same time and we still hold a strong second position in Tier 1, good job to everybody on BG that is spending so many hours every day in WvW to make the difference, and to all of our commanders out there, and all of our amazing WvW guilds that fight regardless of what anybody says.
Can’t wait until we push SoR into the tier they belong in and we match up with Kaineng again. I’ve been missing me some War Machine fights.
We belong here because their is no other world that can compete with us over time besides JQ (and BG for the moment). If someone else moves up, we will be solid in T2 and someone above us will fall and we’ll be right back in T1 again. Afaik there are only two consistent servers, JQ and SOR. We are the only who have have not fallen below T2 since our rise. Maybe thats due to some sort of loyalty characteristic.
If history repeats, SOR will eventually get some more coverage, beat BG, and BG bandwagoners will fall off causing them to fall down again. Much like SOS, IOJ and others.
What do you mean “for the moment” when mentioning BG? You forgot BG in your list of consistent servers, we’ve already survived fall from T1 before. We’ve never fallen more then one ranking spot in how many months? We dust the dirt off our shoulder and keep it moving.
If we were going to implode, don’t you think it would have happened already?
You have to keep in mind that BG it is not the same server since all the new transfers. They are the reason you are the 2nd stacked server but they are not there for the second place. That has proven to be a problem unless you can secure first place. Nobody has yet survived a mass of transfers out of their server.
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