Guild Wars 2

What?

I feel stupid now.

VoragoUmbra.6187:

Good luck to both of you in the gold league.

Why so mean? I was nice :-(.

/sadpanda

Max Zerker and pistol dps multiplier builded thief:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYEQNAoaVlUmiO3eS+E/5Ex2DgCAAwVAAaPAAAAAA-jEyAY/Ai+hoCgJviox2GKiGruGT5SEVbvLiWtUARsMC-w

Headshot dps 292. You will neverevernevereverneverever get a 3k crit on a r80 char, when you run a condition build.
You even wont full dps.

Lol do you even know thief?

KOK.2650:

bob.8632:

1. As someone who mains a thief: there are no impressive thieves.
2. “The players killed themselves. That is not how this game is meant to be.”

Why the FK not? If some facerolling spammer is willing to spam themselves to death why is that anyones concern…..People have been saying L2P all along and people like you sir just continue to make excuses and cry nerf…The runes werent OP, because they do nothing if you do nothing, if you faceroll your skills cause you wanna run zerker and pwn some nubs, then you will die….To me there is nothing more “meant to be” than that….

Interrupt by itself do dmg. Head Shot for example can crt up to 3k .

In a condi build? 200-300 dps.

If you play a pure backstab build, the critchance becomes secondary tbh. But anyhow you will always be AA-ing and HS-ing so it becomes relevant again.
Everybody knows how good it is for bursting down, if the CnD crits too and not only the BS.

In the end it all depends on how you play but indeed, Celestial is never an option for a direct DPS build. For a hybrid build on the other hand it helps to tweak stats to where you want it as you will profit from power, precision, critical damage and condition damage for DPS and healing power, toughness and vitality to survive.

D/D is not really that much of a hybrid set though. On the other hand P/D is. It even is to an extend most thieves dont even know.

All the math behind wish’s builds is correct. It is your job to tweak it around a bit for your special needs.
I e.g. fight outnumbered more than 1v1 so I will spend most time sitting in stealth waiting to backstab when I play D/D.
There are classes though that require full AA-chains to apply poison if you want to drop them and here again your critical chance comes heavily into account.

Overall my experience says that something like this:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYEQNAoYVlUmiO3eS+E/5Ey2jdqCJKuHOVS1UdFiKA-jEDBYfAofQ4fgkFg0HQUBAJPKrZPCilhFRjVXDT5SIV7KySBExyI-w

is the best choice to roam solo and in a party I will always use poultry soup instead.

Where do you find so many nubies to kill?
NA sure is a great place for roamers. The average PvP-skill in MMOs is insanely low over there.

Great video and very great thiefplay though! Always a pleasure to watch.

I hope you guys will realise that everybody who IS in the sílver league already won.

For a roaming Skullcrack build you dont need neither the one or the other. As you will be spending your adrenaline before bursting and your adrenaline will fill u completely after a few crits.

0 30 20 0 20 with a soldier/berserker mix will give you the best results.

Sowwy, I dont play in NA.
But you can whisper me ingame and I send you :-* and <3.

And maybe I also pay a supersize Happy Meal for you, if I like you.

Abaddon completely stopped playing for points in order to drop to 10th place again. Expect them to outnumber you everywhere.
ATM the are losing to servers not even Kodasch lost to and they almost won against us once and beat us the other time.

Cheap play in my eyes, but in 8 weeks we talk again.

How much warrior did you play?
With Versatile Rage and Furious you will be full again before the 100b after the Skullcrack even ends… Or after landing the full CC chain with hammer. besides you get 10% permanent dps bonus from Attack of Opportunity when you go 30 into the 2nd tree.

A, rly? So when two stunwarriors duel eachother, Berserker Stance is a legit choice?
You will remove any condition he gives you as soon as you land the skullcrack that will provide the bursting window.
I dont even…

But u are right. Besides when duelling a D/P thief, I would never use Skullcrack builds for duelling.
As for the D/P thief, he deserves any pain and cheese he can possibly get.
I throw blueprints on their bodies every time such a runaway tries to gank me.

Very true, but you see how broken a build is, when you can completely waste a utility slot for berserkerstance (vs another stunwarrior) and dont even notice the difference ;-).

Since I run my new build, I have many thrilling duels vs thieves though. Although I am quite sure that even when many people play PD, maybe only a handful if even anyone play my approach to it.

People underestimate hybrid builds, and PD is a hybrid weaponset par excellence.

mtpelion.4562:

Zumy.6318:

This already utterly easy game does not require more passive effects.
Please do not take even more skill out of pvp.

Umm… what?

No aspect of the infusions require skill to use now, my suggestion would therefore not remove any skill. In fact, my suggestion would require you to actually think about the situational impact of the different infusions (similar to runes/sigils).

Also, all effects other than dodging and ability activation are passive.

No more random, selfinduced buffs, resistances, triggers, debuffs. The player shall play the game, not his build.

That duel was tiring to watch.

Victory.2879:

Zumy.6318:

Ins.7139:

Useless to even go near them lol

I know, right? If you dont pay attention, you might even get involved into real PvP…
Wo does want that in ZvZ lootfest?

Says the thief…go play spvp if you like solo/small scale fights with other people that are specifically built and skilled up for it.

Mainly as the ruins give ZERO experience, karma, wexp or anything else the vast majority call them ‘wasted space’ or ’Anet’s attempt to get us to play spvp in wvw’. Those are the printable names.

If you want Karma or XP, got to Orr and grind Events.

Galen Grey.4709:

LHound.8964:

Read some topics in WvW sub-forums:

- We were called “The minority” by ANet staff.
- We have been trolled in-game by a incredibly rude person from ANet staff. An apology was made soon after.
- We are being ignored after months of the same feedback.
- sPvP and WvW is incredibly flawed. A lot of people play those game modes, because they haven’t got another solution. Feedback related to the assiduity is biased.
- You can’t expect to please everyone.
- Personally i don’t care about progression (vertical, horizontal, diagonal, etc…). I care about Bugs, Class Balance, Server Balance and overall competitiveness. If you think they are moving towards satisfying the majority of players, either you don’t read enough the forum, or you’re very naive. People are complaining for months now!

if they really dismissed you in WvW subforum (which I dont follow) because you were a minority that would have been very wrong.

You want to do GvG in WvW, fine, I dont like it because it damages WvW

How do you back up these words? Please be so kind to answer as I dont understand what damage could be done.
And yes I support you on the topic of who was being rude and also I dont GvG.

Listen to your PvP/WvW playerbase and stop releasing things that go in a completely different direction.

We want less zerging, less passive effects (do not support skilled play), less broken/abusable mechanics (perplexity spam/stunspam/fearchain/stealthspam), less matchup imbalance, less orbbuffs V2.0, more entertaining/durable/thrilling sieges with actual fights and not groundtargetted spam, less siegeweapon overload and more rewards for skilled play.

People who play WvW and PvP dont need to get all the skill taken out of their hands. This game is getting easier and easier and classes get pushed into few OP builds more and more. Even when there is an issue with a mechanic being broken (e.g. warriors durability) the class gets buffed even more in the same direction (shouts/lungcapacity buff inc).
Yes 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, 5v5, 10v10 and 20vs20 do matter! Because the players want it! And condition/cc spam are a big issue right here. They support the thoughtless game of numbers.
Players in WvW are in fact players that either like PvP in an open world environment or even siegebased or on the other hand dont care for the gamemode and just follow the loot train, no matter where they get it. Orr, Frostgorge trainframing, Queensdale or for Karma in WvW.

Why do we see more and more support for skillfree gameplay and none at all for people that actually play WvW for what we all took it? The open PvP heritage of DAoC and WAR? Move the PvE/Lootfocussed players back to the Living/Open world and please start enhancing the PvP experience the real group of interest for WvW wants.

How can it be that the needs of players that do not mind blindfolding aoe overload, huge fps-drops, insane skilllag and teleporting/warping during primetime in the mid&upper tiers as long as they get bags, currency and XP of any kind (blue, yellow, purple), are put above the needs/wishes of players that actually care about player versus player and guild/world versus guild/world interaction? Please stop protecting grinders from PvP-focussed “predators”. Give people the tools to kill the “blob” without counterblobbing or siegeoverloading the zone. Give us a laggfree game during primetime. Carebearing the “casuals” does no single favour to the gamemode and rewarding stacking in monozonetrains is killing the PvP in WvW.

Let sieges take hours to be finished for the people who love that. Siegeweapons deal way to much damage to structures and golemrushes are just overkill.
Once you give us the tools to bust the blob and make sieges of a reasonable length for the people who actually play WvW for what it was intended (massive sieges and massive !PvP!), the blobning problem will solve itself as the players that are abusing this gamemode for the simple fact of grinding will move on back to what they usually even like better. Grinding in the open world PvE.

Make WvW a better place for the people who came from WAR, Aion, Rift, SWOTOR, etc. hoping to finally find a gamemode full of epic fights between worlds and got rewarded with a zergfest with just and only epic and massive performance issues.

Do this for WvW. The people who dont like it will stick to the other modes of the game anyway. Afterall there is loot too.

And please please pretty please separate WvW from tPvP and PvE. So many gamebreaking changes to classmechanics that vastly have affected the PvP experience in WvW only happened to either balance PvE or a PvP oriented capture mode.

Ins.7139:

Useless to even go near them lol

I know, right? If you dont pay attention, you might even get involved into real PvP…
Wo does want that in ZvZ lootfest?

(old) Ruins
Arena
Tower
Tree
Tent

Excalibur.9748:

3. strip their stability off and CC to death.

Berserker stance.

How does this relate to CC that is affected by stability?

Or are we just saying random words?
In that case: bananarama!

OT:

Lol guys, paintrain 20+ GvG-Raiders complain about warriors?
Pleaso don’t, it makes you lose credibility.

Its not the thief, I do that with every class I play. I am just better.

;-)

On a serious note: if any class has the tools to beat the condition meta it is P/D-Thief.
Just stop the spam and quit thinking black or white. I am grey.

Straegen.2938:

Zumy.6318:

Superior Sigil of Generosity fixed perplexity issues for me. In fact now I love facing thieves 1v1 that use them.

Best you can do is a single CD transfer every 10s… every necro and engi you pop that on worth their salt is not even noticing it. That sigil has an ICD of 10s.

A good condi bunker will drop 4+ condis and keep them up. Even after a stealth/shadowstep which will likely cleanse 5 CDs, they just stack it right back up. Duel a decent condi bunker then come back and have a conversation because it will be a different one.

I don’t even bother with them anymore because an engi will just bomb his way out and a necro will tor-fear or plague form. Good luck if you run into two of them.

Please Tell me more about your knowledge concerning thieves fighting condibunkers.
I said it helps and if you dont spam skills mindlessly it can even be controlled.

If you cant, well then learn it. This game isnt rocket science and dodging is no random action.
I yet have to die vs one of the above classes in my PD build.

^this very much.

Also give the rune and internal CD on the 6th bonus and it is perfectly balanced for 0 0 30 10 30 or 10 0 30 0 30 thieves.

1 Confusion at Blinding Powder
1 Confusion at Sneak Attack

Sneack attack deals damage 5 times and all 5 have the possibility to crit. I have 70% critical chance with fury and the sigil reliably procs on every sneak attack when off cooldown.

Anything else?

I think you missed the point where you use blinding powder to stealth and also that sneak attack will always procc it if you crit.
You should survive 2 (two) ticks of confusion if you did not run around like a headless chicken before.

No theorycrafting at all, but empirical evidence.

Protoss Pylons?

The rune is only broken if you can spam interrupts.
If a P/d thief uses it, its legit 8-13 stacks every 15-20 seconds.

mtpelion.4562:

Personally, I think that the infusions should be retooled a bit.

For example, defensive infusions should be things like “Magic Resistance”, “Physical Damage Reflection”, “Chance for Random Buff when hit”, etc.

Stat boosts are boring. Let’s not do boring, OK?

This already utterly easy game does not require more passive effects.
Please do not take even more skill out of pvp.

If only they would fix the pathing of the shadowsteps…

Where do you guys get this information?
In the “leaked” notes for next week there isn’t any paragraph about P/X.

This isnt meant to sound kitteny but I absolutely have no issues vs Engis with my build. Yes the transferred condition is random. It is no guarantee, but it helps. You need to time your sneak attacks after removing two condis in stealth. If you removed the confusion, then youll be happy either way. He now has many interrupts on CD and you probably just transferred 10 bleedstack or 10 second burning to him.
If you entered in stealth through HiS, then Confusion mostly is the only condition on you and you might want to instantly transfer it.
Engis barely have condiremove and will be screwed if offensive or try to flee if defensive.
You will be appying 5-7 stacks of confusion after stealing if you do it right anyway, as you steal an aether field.

If you want ot beat the meta, be the metas predator.

Superior Sigil of Generosity fixed perplexity issues for me. In fact now I love facing thieves 1v1 that use them.
Such easy kills. Wait for them so stack 3 different condis along with some confusion and then blindingpowder for uninterruptable stealth → Sneak attack → watch them melt as they keep spamming 4.
Necros and Engis even easier.
The runes are overpowered but the players that use them usually are very bad.
Matter of fact, the day they get nerfed to have an ICD on the 6th bonus I probably will start using them myself.

Amelia, when I met your zerg at the right spawntower you werent exactly less than tha JS zerg I met 2 minutes before.

Red names seem to appear more prominent than greens. Also when facin an opponent you will see all of his numbers but you will always have friendlies behind and around you that you dont see/are aware of.

btt: very nice matchup so far, I am loving the roam!

Positive rating is every servers goal in this game!

Amirite ranks 8-12?

:D

Fair enough!

Cheers anyway. Always nice to meet some roaming VcYs. We all know you do that off prime time.

Smallscale in the ruins.

So? Ze Germans colonized the Moon and teh Poles in 1945. They have no timezone at all!

Zumy.6318:

Please check online to see the time difference between the african countries that speak french:
Benin
Burkina Faso
Burundi
Cameroon
Central African Republic
Chad
Comoros
Congo, Republic of the
Côte d’Ivoire
Democratic Republic of the Congo
Djibouti
Equatorial Guinea (former colony of Spain)
Gabon
Guinea
Madagascar
Mali
Mauritius
Niger
Rwanda
Senegal
Seychelles
Togo
Algeria
Mauritania
Morocco
Tunisia

Having African players would just cluster more on the european primetime.
It goes from UTC +1 till UTC + 2.

Time zone France:
- Winter CET (UTC+1)
– Summer CET (UTC+2)

Do you really learn in Russia, that timezones distribute randomly around the world, depending on how far away from one place you are?
Because that is not how it works.

^how about some actual facts? Having Africans would not even be an advantage.

Please check online to see the time difference between the african countries that speak french:
Benin
Burkina Faso
Burundi
Cameroon
Central African Republic
Chad
Comoros
Congo, Republic of the
Côte d’Ivoire
Democratic Republic of the Congo
Djibouti
Equatorial Guinea (former colony of Spain)
Gabon
Guinea
Madagascar
Mali
Mauritius
Niger
Rwanda
Senegal
Seychelles
Togo
Algeria
Mauritania
Morocco
Tunisia

Having African players would just cluster more on the european primetime.
It goes from UTC +1 till UTC + 2.

Time zone France:
- Winter CET (UTC+1)
– Summer CET (UTC+2)

Do you really learn in Russia, that timezones distribute randomly around the world, depending on how far away from one place you are?
Because that is not how it works.

The fear… I just cant stop laughing. Great work Laela!

There was a stream with a pretteh QA Lady last week.
I guess it was a big publicity trick to make us believe there is any sort of QA.

The day they give me regen like a warrior, will be the day thieves kill WvW roaming.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYAQNAqYVlUmCNHdS+E/JFxWBgy9wpJtpeKI7Y7KEVA-jUDBIgREJEgqAg+AiKAM5TQMFSZtMsIasKZQqaBVXDT5CR7CWKAImGB-w

Celestial gear can be pretty good though. (WvW solo/smallscale)

These are my current approaches to this build:

Offensive approach:

Condibufffood:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYAQNAqYVlUmCNHdS+E/JFxWBgy9wpJtpeKI7Y7KEVA-jUDBIgREJEgqAg+AiKAM5TQMFSZtMsIasKZQqaBVXDT5CR7CWKAImGB-w

Powerbufffood:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYAQNAqYVlUmCNHdS+E/JFxWBgy9wpJtpeKI7Y7KEVA-jUDBIggIhBiqAg+AiKAM5TQMFSZtMsIasKZQqaBVXDT5CR7CWKAIWGB-w

Precisionbufffood:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYAQNAqYVlUmCNHdS+E/JFxWBgy9wpJtpeKI7Y7KEVA-jUDBIggIhBiqAg+AiKAM5TQMFSZtMsIasKZQqaBVXDT5CR7CWKAIGGB-w

Looking for mathgeniusses to tell me what bufffood and stacks are best.
Personally I would opt for condition in both cases. Fury uptime is pretty good with both trickery traits and boonduration.

Watchatawkinabout? The Unicorner is awesome!

:D

Kodasch getting teleported from rank 11 to rank 5 in 2 hours just shows how good this system works.

Enhanced my signature by The Dreamer yesterday night. After being a bit sceptic about shooting unicorns at first, after I finished it I love it!

I will use my last two gifts of explo to craft both Kamohoali’i Kotaki and Frenzy simultaneously. After that I will buy Quip from the TP and my Thief will have every weapon he can equip.

I dare you to bring the legendary armor, ArenaNet!

They sure are! I got revealed by a white rabbit once, that was the last time i roamed with hydromancy or geomancy. I use it on my warriors shield though.