Guild Wars 2

Centrix.4065:

Yeah it was mad fun. Eventhough I crashed 7 times and couldn’t play for most of the raid, the fights I was in were pretty fun and intense.

greets to all the guilds we encountered

Wow. Four Necros. You sure gotta play the meta…

:D

Apothecary/Settler and Carrion. I mix them

Link:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYEQRAqY4YlUmaNXey9E+5EB3Dnm0mqpQm2sTBWtKA-jEzA4sBRTBCNtAg+AlCLiGbBTjtmJEpsx06Kqa0A7RCsXRRVIgFrBA-w

Attunementswap = Weaponswap

Avead.5760:

So you still stand firm on saying that you have no problem 1vs1 with these builds and that infact necros and thieves are easy?
If you were following the pvp scene ,watching the tourneys and the currently considered top teams you would see there are no eles left at all.They all rerolled or quit!
I cant believe that they all suck!? And 1vs1 isnt even the point of this game.Its worse when you are in a teamfight and ar focused by both enemy necro and a thief invading your backline.
I checked your build and its not something new.Its the most logical way to make a burst le currently.But it lacks options in the fight cause att switch is on more than 13.3sec and is very vulnerable to both condies and d damage.
Its just has a burst that can be negated by anything from a dodge to the burning of a defencive cooldown or the use of a rezz!! (yeah pvp players know how to use those).Then you ll get cc/feared ,you ll get chilled and then those 13 sec will become 16-17 and your damage will mean nothing.
Its not a good build man.Im sure about that and it takes very little effort to counter what it does..Wvw players arent a good way to measure the pvp potential and judge balance of this game.They hardly reach the max potential of their class!

What he said.

Omg comparing staff Ele with thief sure will make a point.

I like the challenge. Ele has all the tools. Ppl just dont use them…

Lavadiel.6231:

Zumy.6318:

Armor of Earth and Earthattunement on CD. You most likely will pop AoE pretty early. Stuns and fears everywhere.

c’mon dude you spend 500h on ele and even dont know how long Protection AoE + earth swap give? No matter how you calculate it, it is not 30-40seconds

With 60% boonduration and Armor of Earth you have a pretty decent uptime of protection. AoE will close the gaps between swapping to Earth pretty nicely. There might be little gaps, but you have close to permavigor as long as you crit…

Watch some videos from vashury and reconsider your opinion about torch, please. Vashbash in Youtube.

Armor of Earth and Earthattunement on CD. You most likely will pop AoE pretty early. Stuns and fears everywhere.

Condition buff? Are you out of your mind?

Oh my god mate, that build can basicallly faceroll any other class. Because it is goddermn easymode. And you admit it all the way.
Stay on your mesmer and everything will be fine!
You mitght want to try d/p thief though. Same skillceiling.

Well, me being on Kodasch, we will have to wait for our duels just a little bit.

@ArmageddonAsh:
Ok buddy, you win.
Please everybody play mesmer now. There is no way an ele could beat this hardmode skilled class.

What server are you on mate?

@Ghettogenious: gathering legendaries only requires skill at the trading point and some lucky drops.

That greastword must be awesome on a conditionbuild.

That said GS + Sw/Tor is the cheesiest build a 1v1 could ever feature.
Also those interrupts on focus and GS get dodged by anyone that doesnt play blindfolded.

So yes, there are facerollers you cannot beat as for killing them before you die from afk iZerkers and Shatternukes out of stealth but who would claim that his class can beat anything on any build?
This speaking of close skilllevel. A better player can kill a worse one even manning a golem.

What is the goddearmn point you are trying to make?

You find ele hard? Stay on your mesmer and collect easy kills padding your shoulder afterwards. Sure as hell you wont kill me as I know how to get lost of mesmers training with some of the best mesmers out there in our tPvP Arena.
And so far I killed almost every mesmer who wasnt using GS+ Sw/Tor.

ArmageddonAsh.6430:

Zumy.6318:

What does my Sig have to do with that?
Just curious. My playtime on Ele should be around 500 hours.

You have a 900 unit immobilize and high swiftness uptime. You can kite his conditionburst and first fearchain by rtl-ing and cleansing after or using armor of earth after his corrupt boon and heal up with aether renewal cleansing everything. Most heavy burst will be on CD for 25-45 seconds now and you can harass. He has less sustain so you can rinse and repeat bit by bit. He will not fill up his hp-bar. You need to play a necro defensively with quick and safe bursts. You will outlast him. This is no 10 second fight if you want to win it.

Mesmer – can stun, Daze and cripple, gap close, Teleport and have swiftness have several range stuns as well. can also swap between range and melee every 10seconds if needed.

Yes, and in all that time I will not do anything but walk around like a chicken. Fighting that mesmer with 3 different weaponsets and 5 utilities you are talking of.

As already stated, mesmer in 1v1 tome is a faceroll class and I cant even be bothered to play mine because it is so easy to pull off the biggest wins in 1vX.
Still they can be beaten as they get used to their easymode and can be surprised.

S/D:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fEEQJArYhEmmbwR5wjDIkCmg4hF4AcY5xMkD2AA-jEzAoeQ0FAJCkIAk8FETeKrVtgUdjW5NsqahYtNmKOqyAwMGA-w

D/D:
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As requested. Add 25 stacks of bloodlust and many many mightstacks.

What does my Sig have to do with that?
Just curious. My playtime on Ele should be around 500 hours.

You have a 900 unit immobilize and high swiftness uptime. You can kite his conditionburst and first fearchain by rtl-ing and cleansing after or using armor of earth after his corrupt boon and heal up with aether renewal cleansing everything. Most heavy burst will be on CD for 25-45 seconds now and you can harass. He has less sustain so you can rinse and repeat bit by bit. He will not fill up his hp-bar. You need to play a necro defensively with quick and safe bursts. You will outlast him. This is no 10 second fight if you want to win it.

It is about the hardest fight an elementalist can get and win.
There are other builds that you cannot kill e.g. stun perplexity warrior. But neither should they kill you.

atheria.2837:

Heiltdo.2891:

I’m so sorry you can’t 3v1 people anymore, maybe you should realize youre class is now what they call “Balanced”.

Ele is a very high skill celling class, pro’s do extremely well, and new players get destroyed.

Your friend probably didn’t have any idea of how Op Eles were at WvW.

Being one-hit-down-dead isn’t what “balance” looks like…

Lets all thank god, Ele isnt “one-hit-down-dead”.

Meteorlogicus is fine exactly as it is.

It does not. But did we specificly reduce the conversation to conditionbuilds?
Just dont go full berserkermode vs a condimancer or engineer. They have high cooldowns on conditionburst and fearchains. Kite to win. For heavens sake.
I remove 9 conditions on 10-15 seconds CD and I will make sure to LoS the necro before I do.

Also I’d like to point out my edit:
Afterall this is a teambased game and were a d/d really excels the most is at roaming with 1-3 partners. The buffs you provide, paired with high PbAoE burst are insane.

Mesmer on the other hand have the most kittenedly op 1v1 conditionbuilds and I will make sure to make use of their bad mobility and walk away. There are builds that cannot be beaten on same skillevel with certain builds. For me mesmer is a faceroll and I will most certainly laugh into ones face if he “demands” 1v1 to prove anything.

ArmageddonAsh.6430:

Zumy.6318:

In WvW Ele is fine. Most complaints that are reasonable are about tPvP.

Fine in WvW? When was the last time you played WvW? they are far from “fine” when i see an ele in WVW i am thinking “Nice, free kill” they might be bunker but that wont save them the ONLY thing that can save them from that point is if:

1) A zerg shows up
2) A group show up
3) They run
4) hide behind NPC at camps

I cant remember the last time i actually died to a Ele in WvW.

Ele is fine in WvW. I main one and I have tons of 1vs2 or 1vs3 where I stand my ground and kite with ease. You are not supposed to facetank. In an attritionbattle I very often outlast 2-3 players. That is of course also coming from build and experience.

There is no class in this game that cannot be beaten 1v1. Not even nightmare/terrornecro.
Then again it depends on both builds in the encounter. After all this is Build Wars 2.

Be sure that on my ele I will most certainly send any ganker back to his homebase with new repairfees or kite him until he does not want to follow me anymore. If i dont want to die, I just dont die. I gank gankers.

80% critical damage and 60% (w/ fury) critical chance on d/d, havin 2500 armour and permanent protection uptime for the first 30-40 seconds, 16k hp and around 10-20 stacks of might. While having 60% boonduration, 500 healingpower and bleeds that will tick for up to 100 with mightstacks.

Maybe the eles you meet in WvW are not very good or dont have any routine in 1v1?
I dont know. But neither I nor any other Ele i’d call good are a free kill to any class.

Afterall this is a teambased game and were a d/d really excels the most is at roaming with 1-3 partners. The buffs you provide, paired with high PbAoE burst are insane.

Thunder and lightning effects would be really very awesome. Just distant in the sky while a dark courtain of rain covers the horizon.

Players who play WvW for the open PvP instead of PvD dont care about gold so much.

That said you dont need to do anything but TP 15 minutes a day to be in the thousands.

In WvW Ele is fine. Most complaints that are reasonable are about tPvP.

Thank you for your input. I guess.

This is a different kind of petition, without any rant or balance-yelp.

Honestly the battles, roams and skirmishes I feel the most epic thrill at, are when it is raining ingame.
I gives me the sense of a tense hunt or battleparty and that anytime anything could happen.

I woul really love to have dark and rainy evenings and nights on the borderlands from time to time. Not with the stereotypical wolves howling but you should really hear the rain a bit, making other noises more difficult to note.
All that snowing is nice and I like the northern BL landscapes, but I mean… RAIN.

Am I alone with this?

Calling overpopulated and overzerged servers in T1 “three best servers”…

6/10, I loled.

tPvP is absolutely not about eles doing 1on1 sneaking upon afk fools on far or close.
Please tell me more about the the necros traited for condi and geared with divinity + berserker you fought as a newcomer to soloQ were you get teamed against lvl 1 rangers that use bear and rifle warriors.

I wont ever say ele is underpowered, as it isnt. But in the current meta no decent team will let you pull off that 1 trickpony 1shot you call being skilled.

I f thieves really were the easiest along with necros, then the people you fought did not know anything about tpvp and tried to use their pve builds in tpvp to get their daily achievementpoints.

While d/d bunker is sustainable for a while, again two good players will kill you in 10 seconds. Watch a guardian or an engineer bunkering, read about what a bunker should be able to do and then please state again that d/d ele in the current meta is a good bunker.
After you popped your first stability, the necro attacking that point along with a stunwarrior or an s/d thief will melt you in few cooldowns.
They will fear you out of the point with corrupt boon and spectral wall you away to nirvana while you eat a 5 sec fear and the thief spams larcenous strike for 5k on you.

Come on please, stop talking about a gamemode you know nothing about and played hotjoin or low rank soloQ for a few hours against terribad PvEers.

And I did not even talk about spirit rangers yet…

Underwhelming. But expected.

“This will tie all strings from the LS together and …”

Yes, everyone, because in WvW everyone plays warrior, mesmer or necro these days. So basically you are right.

Well you see some guardians and the usual d/p baddies on their thieves.

Honestly I dont care about confusion. If you die from it, you deserve it. Only problem is that stun spamming warriors can negate a fight completely. Usually I just jeave them.

Goldcap? No Problem, I will just order 250 Twilight for 50g. KKTHXBYE

I three years, when nobody will play any PvP related content in GW2 anymore. If you ask what killed GW2 PvP they will say two things:

ESL and PAX

But i can give you some relief. There will be more legendaries ands 15k WvW ranks to grind. So you can all just swap to those two contents.
WvW will be against NPCs only though. As the delicate and very expensive serverengines cant be bothered to handle real players fighting each others for a garrison.

11k is peanuts and John Smith knows that very well.
Not even the amount of 3xx.000g is utopical.

Trust me, I know.

Believe me, they sell.

What you say is what keeps me queueing. But starting just now with yoloQ will get you matched with lvl 1 ragers with bear and riflewarriors. This is when you know you are screwdriven. As spiritranger od terrornecro i could make a bigger impact and bite my way up. Like this i am just dropping to 0% like a rock. A Good team could fix this. But find a Team as an elerooky tPvP wise in the current meta.

He speaks truth.

3 days of tPvP shattered my will to play Ele. And I really love it. I do. But as soon as you encounter a decent warrior/ranger/necro in tPvP you will see how useless you are.

ATM i am not even tPvPing even thoug I wanted to get some ranks. BC Soloqueueing atm on an Ele if you werent decently ranked before means dropping to under 10%. You never get out of under 10%. Ever.

I get teamed with lvl 1 Rangers that use bear.

Where can I see my %?

Started late and getting teamed with rank 1 rangers with bear probably left me at 0% or sth like that.

That and the fact I am an ele.

Tupi, while I agree with you, please read the OP again and tell me he deserved a different reply.

I know right. But since I have to stay in the point if I want to keep it, I dont have much options anyway.

gesho.9468:

bunkering with berserk?

Yes, and also traited 30/30/0/10/0

You did read the part with d/d cleric, did you?

Bismuth.3165:

and just because you suck at them doesn’t mean they’re bad, LH eles in organized groups do a lot more damage than warriors, a lot more, even without LH we do tons of damage, we are also epic healers and we have a lot of skills for survivability, there is also the focus skills which are really helpful in many situations and we can grant like 15 stacks of might on the spot, so stop making eles suck threads and learn to play.

Hey buddy, I have an information for you:

PvE is 2nd class skillwise.
Anything fits well in PvE. Now go soloQ in tPvP and enjoy. When the thing you fight is not a stupid AI boss with repetitive patterns.

Most eles that complain and are to be taken serious are people who talk about tPvP Meta and the role of the Ele in it.
Anybody complaining about anything in this game that is related to PvE please go and play Warcraft I.

This is pretty much everything Wvwers do not want. Well, I did not expect anything different from that.

AndrewSX.3794:

Praise honesty at least.

In last few days they said that
-acc bound wxp isn’t going to happen
-they balance and update wvw with the blob/coverage/blobbing/siege wars in mind

Bam, crushed at least 2 things that would have led to a better wvw. But now you can always stop hoping for those, isn’t that awesome?

Please quote!

First I thought this rant was about WvW. Then I realised it is about a player crying for a legendary.

WvW is fine though, as we can build more efficiently for our roles.

Your argument is none.

But I guess you feel like you deserve revenge against mesmers and eles after them being quite strong over a few months.

You are totally right, everybody that played ele should get punished as they developed the meta and are in charge of balance.

Not having played tPvP for 4 or 5 months since I bunkered on my Guardian for my Guild team getting into the top 300 (doesnt mean anything, I know), I now only and exclusively play my Elementalist.
I am pretty experienced in open PvP roaming as I have done this for many years and would call myself a quite above average PvPer.

The last few days I have been join g a little bit in soloQ with fresh air builds, valk or berserk and several different dd builds. Even 0/0/20/20/30 cleric.

My experience tells me that my class in this gamemode is subpar to an extend where joining as an elementalist will put my team on a bad spot.

Having quite some experience from bunkering on my guardian, I was highly surpised, how easily a Necromancer or a Stunlockwarrior could put such high pressure on me, that I had to fight for my life instead of holding the point till teammates arrive.

Getting nerfed in heals, conditionremoves and stunbreakers while the heavy conditon classes experience a huge buff and the meta is all about being a stuntastic warrior seems very wrong to me. Having only access to stability on very high cooldowns while any necro can turn that into a fear and I cannot recognize a corrupt boon from an asura even if he stands right on me makes the experience very frustrating as I have the notion that I have to put everything into every fight to be at least a little efficient and other classes just have to pull their spirits or spam red circles on the ground to completely negate a point to me.

The information I got that this will stay like this until PAX is over, even though this seems to be the most broken meta ever and it hast been going on for quite a period of time, makes me feel a bit left alone by arenanet. Also I would like to call this decision not well thought. People are forced to leave their main characters due to meta. Even Phantaram and Xeph joined the bandwaggon of evade spamspamspam and conditionfaceroll.
Seeing how average they are on those toons and still overly efficient and successful just makes my point more obvious

It is wrong how in this game the balance is done and it probably killed the game for many players that this meta stayed for months just because “players wont have time to get used to new builds before PAX”. If they really cant, they dont even belong into PAX.

I will happily stay out of tPvP as I prefer roaming open wolrd in a small team anyway, but the Devs should start to realise the damage they have done to this game just to force ESL.

Please keep your l2p flames and dont tell me to play necro. I dont care :-).

Not having played tPvP for 4 or 5 months since I bunkered on my Guardian for my Guild team getting into the top 300 (doesnt mean anything, I know), I now only and exclusively play my Elementalist.
I am pretty experienced in open PvP roaming as I have done this for many years and would call myself a quite above average PvPer.

The last few days I have been join g a little bit in soloQ with fresh air builds, valk or berserk and several different dd builds. Even 0/0/20/20/30 cleric.

My experience tells me that my class in this gamemode is subpar to an extend where joining as an elementalist will put my team on a bad spot.

Having quite some experience from bunkering on my guardian, I was highly surpised, how easily a Necromancer or a Stunlockwarrior could put such high pressure on me, that I had to fight for my life instead of holding the point till teammates arrive.

Getting nerfed in heals, conditionremoves and stunbreakers while the heavy conditon classes experience a huge buff and the meta is all about being a stuntastic warrior seems very wrong to me. Having only access to stability on very high cooldowns while any necro can turn that into a fear and I cannot recognize a corrupt boon from an asura even if he stands right on me makes the experience very frustrating as I have the notion that I have to put everything into every fight to be at least a little efficient and other classes just have to pull their spirits or spam red circles on the ground to completely negate a point to me.

The information I got that this will stay like this until PAX is over, even though this seems to be the most broken meta ever and it hast been going on for quite a period of time, makes me feel a bit left alone by arenanet. Also I would like to call this decision not well thought. People are forced to leave their main characters due to meta. Even Phantaram and Xeph joined the bandwaggon of evade spamspamspam and conditionfaceroll.
Seeing how average they are on those toons and still overly efficient and successful just makes my point more obvious

It is wrong how in this game the balance is done and it probably killed the game for many players that this meta stayed for months just because “players wont have time to get used to new builds before PAX”. If they really cant, they dont even belong into PAX.

I will happily stay out of tPvP as I prefer roaming open wolrd in a small team anyway, but the Devs should start to realise the damage they have done to this game just to force ESL.

Please keep your l2p flames and dont tell me to play necro. I dont care :-).

How high do you critically hit on S/D? I see very little power and critchance for very high critical damage.

This is my current build, Ill be testing this weekend.
http://de.gw2skills.net/editor/?fEAQJArYhEmmbwxzwjDIkCmg4hF4AcY5xMkD2AA-j0zAoeQ0FAJCkIAk8DUyTZNBCW1Cb1NIl3opqTt2GT5CpeBUxIyAwsFA-w

Edith: Ok, I did the Math. You win.

Withdraw is for another Evade, CC-remove and overall: perma swiftness with the runes.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fEAQJArYhEmmbwxzwjDIkCmg4hF4AcY5xMkD2AA-j0zAoeQ0FAJCkIAk8DUyDNBqMW1Cb1NIl3opqTt2GT5GIVMiBvIa1yAwsFA-w

Didnt find a Necro to kill me yet.

Finished Meteorlogicus yesterday. Now trying to decide if Bifrost or Kraitkin next. Thank god they share some gifts..
Ill need 2 Weeks for the Karma and the Skillpoints in WvW so expect me here by then again.