Guild Wars 2

Mauti.3520:

Really looking forward to the end of the season and a slot in silver league one day, can’t read this qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq of germanophobian kids in bronzeleague any more.

Do a few weeks against Vizunah and see how much you like that

doc phil.8015:

aspirine it would be nice to meet you in game. I can assure you there are a lot of good players on dzagonur. actually most of the time our players think it is quite safe to jump into a bigger group of enemies (not talking about the zergs,because yeah ours are bigger and there’s no skill in that) and wipe them and most of the time it becomes true.

I have different chars but most likely my Human green Necro with the final rest staff.(dont we all have that one).

I sometimes have the same problem. If you did the same puzzle yesterday the puzzle discovery does not register.

Barrage damage is very weak, in only used it on downed players in a keep or tower to keep their health low so the ele next to me can wipe him.

The goonies inspired JP

Nikkinella.8254:

I hope they don’t disable costumes in wvw. I like throwing roses on the bodies of my fallen victims then laying on top of them on a bed of roses.

:D How very nice of you.

Selver.1307:

I couldn’t tell you how many bad people continue to pew pew me through DStorm. It’s 99% rangers, but I get the odd warrior and engi to do it too.

I MEAN THE WHOLE kitten CHANNEL (if they don’t down first).

Gotta love autoattackers =)

FrouFrou.4958:

Oooor gather some friends together and go kick some buttocks, embrace the small scale, forget about the points and have fun intead? I haven’t had this much fun for weeks if not for months and it’s going to be hard to go back to Gandara once our vacation comes to its end.

Oh dont get me wrong I did have some fun this weekend. Wiping the dz groups again and again was done not without any cheering
But during the day when you think surely they cannot get even more numbers they do. They sure do not like to lose.

Also why go back to a server that you can hardly play on Nothing more annoying than a que.

Shadowresli.3782:

Haven’t had the pleasure to play during reset or saturday, but we had a guildraid yesterday evening. Good fun and good loot.

We could whine about RoS nightcapping, cause after all the trashing you did to us, about blobbing, no skill and camping, it only would be fair.

two things to mention
- nice fights against FRS around their spawntower on our homelands
- RoS has some very bad apples who cheated themselves into both northern Towers on our Homelands, Guildtag [KOBW]

Was it sunny? Or I do not know what colour you play but you know the tower I think. Because some on my server were talking about this too.

Junkpile.7439:

Jayne.9251:

Then why give 100% and get out there every day for your server if it’s just going to be fluff reward … Or the “everyone gets the same thing” reward? Please no. Make winning actually mean something. This is supposed to be a competition, not a pve event.

Most of server players doesn’t deserve reward at all so it’s kind of stupid give good rewards.

This, so much this. Most of them walk along hand in hand with the zerg. Why should you give them anything useful.

Well that’s about it for me this weekend, playing against this server is just no fun at all.
Loose? they will get more numbers, again? They will get even more and this goes on and on untill they have a zerg larger than our entire pve population.

Andrew Clear.1750:

Aberrant.6749:

Andrew Clear.1750:

Atrophied.8725:

Why not kill the people standing there ressing someone? I mean, they can’t use any skills (other than instant cast cantrips/shouts/mantras) while reviving, and can’t heal. What’s the issue? You get to free-cast on them for 5-10 seconds. If you can’t kill someone in that long, then there’s an issue in your playing, not with the ressing mechanic.

Totally agree.

If you’re outnumbered they easily hold you off for 5-10s. What the ressing rubbish does is prevent a small coordinated force from chipping away at a larger less coordinated force.

So, you are saying that the small force should always have the advantage over the large force?

Let’s be real here. This is a core mechanic of the game, and it doesn’t need to be removed because a few people don’t like it. Did you ever consider that those people who died would rather be raised instead of running back?

Next, people will start asking to get rid of the ‘1’ key, so there isn’t any spamming ‘1’ in the zerg anymore….

Of course the dead people do not want to run back, that’s the whole deal isnt it? No punishment for death of all damage/zerker gear because guess what dead and 2 seconds later you are back again.
It might be a core mechanic of the game but that does not mean they can reconsider it.

Consider this scenario, Borderlands, 10 people defending a tower, 30 people attacking. Why would anyone of the people inside take a risk to kill a player when they know he is back right away. But when they are killed outside they have to waypoint. Unless they can kill them and they are slowly but surely chipping away players from the 30 zerg.
I’d like that a lot more than the downed state now.

Right now some borderlands are being used as EB. If you get outnumbered so badly you might give the defending borderlands some edge over the enemy zerg.
How about not allowing resurection in enemy borderlands for a start. Home team still gets it, even with a resurection penalty.
Look at the bottom of the bronze EU league, mass mass blowouts by servers packed with people.
And waypoint building in enemy borderlands, not a good idea because that sort of thing is only possible if you already outnumbered the server by far. Why make it easier for them.

Wich makes me also think who thought it was a good idea to do country servers in the first place.

Seriously, a letter from Anet to say this never again. League sucks.

I’ll be glad to fight vabbi and wsr yes. They have more skill in one group then your entire zerg has together.
And go kitten yourself in pvp.

Zord.6130:

aspirine.6852:

Zord.6130:

Omaris Mortuus Est.2738:

They play for PPT, not fun.

They will blob with their entire map zerg run around and cap everything, move to another BL and repeat.

The interesting part is that “we” find capping everything, running around and moving to another BL really fun. We don’t play for PPT. We play to have fun. If “we” have fun in scoring points, then we are playing for fun.

How is it fun? You zerg everything, not even small camps are done without sheer numbers. I really fail to see something without challenge can be seen as fun.

Because dying is extremely frustrating. As long as we don’t die, we’re having fun.
Think of it as “if you die, then it means that you lost”. People don’t have fun in losing.
On the other hand, if we kill stuff, even if we outnumber them, then it’s a win.

And it’s not like our “legendary” zergs are uncounterable, we DO have weaknesses. But I don’t expect someone from FoW to be able to exploit such weaknesses.

You do have weaknesses yes, you are terrible. Staying inside your zerg without putting up a fight, I would call that pathetic.

Zord.6130:

Omaris Mortuus Est.2738:

They play for PPT, not fun.

They will blob with their entire map zerg run around and cap everything, move to another BL and repeat.

The interesting part is that “we” find capping everything, running around and moving to another BL really fun. We don’t play for PPT. We play to have fun. If “we” have fun in scoring points, then we are playing for fun.

How is it fun? You zerg everything, not even small camps are done without sheer numbers. I really fail to see something without challenge can be seen as fun.

Atrophied.8725:

Why not kill the people standing there ressing someone? I mean, they can’t use any skills (other than instant cast cantrips/shouts/mantras) while reviving, and can’t heal. What’s the issue? You get to free-cast on them for 5-10 seconds. If you can’t kill someone in that long, then there’s an issue in your playing, not with the ressing mechanic.

Because it allows the bigger zergs to instarez everyone. As an example my server is taking on one of the largest populated servers in the bronze league. We kill them plenty but they are so many they continue to push and almost insta rez their dead. This allows them to have almost all of them in zerkier gear because death is not a problem in these zergs. And while the smaller server has to take that into account.
Rez them once is fine, but after that you cannot be rezzed for about 10 minutes or you have to travel to border waypoint or citadel waypoint to remove the sickness.
Not saying it’s perfect but there needs to be something to deal with these zergs.
Also why can you rez finished players, that also makes no sense.

Iavra.8510:

I apologize for our zerging fair weather players… :/

Sadly, this week isn’t really suited for smallscale but i will do my best whenever i can get myself to leave PoE for GW2 :P

/edit: Not all BNF are on Vabbi

Oe i’m trying a little poe myself, cant yet quite get into it. Second act now but it’s not the game I expected unfortunatly

Jesus.2619:

really Dzagonur? camping spawn 5 vs 2? you guys must really need some events of “success”

Lol this afternoon they where sieging up in godsword even. Why on earth would you want to do that.

I thought drakkar was bad, but dzagonur players are even worse. all zerker and instarezzed by the zerg. Some skill you guys got =)

I wish we had you back wsr and vabbi

I’ve never noticed this, but they should not be able to do something for more than seconds. Not being able to revive them should be one way of mindless ramming and zerging. Downside is that they will create even bigger zergs but for some servers thats almost impossible

So after trying to defend some keeps to some zergs and killing their berserker geared people 3 or 4 times only to seem them being insta rezzed I started thinking.
Why not implement some kind of revive sickness where everytime you get rezzed, you get this debuff and cannot be rezzed for a fixed amount of minutes.
Unless you travel per waypoint to the begin area of your colour you keep this untill it wears off.
I realize that this will also hurt the defenders but I think big zerging groups can cary way more damage right nog than they should because of the insta rez train.
It can also be used for some high hitting defenders to go out, kill some quick and get back in save to see they took some down that cannot be rezzed for some time.

Wow there what the hell happened? I really thought RoS could beat the drakkar people easily. Did you get outblobbed?

Yaro.3251:

aspirine.6852:

Map seems nice, but way to many way to push people off. I’ll skip. Sounds and looks like griefing heaven.

There’s a lot of space so it is up to you to not put yourself into position where you can be pushed off the cliff

I know, but imo there should be nothing like places you can push/stom/shoot people off. It’s something I really dislike and I hope other people too.

Thor.2867:

Sry us is dzagonur

There is also BT
We know that we do not stand a chance against dzago, you are in the top 3 of the bronze..

Map seems nice, but way to many way to push people off. I’ll skip. Sounds and looks like griefing heaven.

Thor.2867:

It’ll be hard for you to win against us

Yeah, especially if you do not tell us who “us” is.

And Good luck next week RoS, I do hope you win the match against drakkar blob. Untill the week after when we both face the blitzkrieg.

Sirendor.1394:

Bull kitten. No class is better than any other. Yday we had a group of 5 people of our guild going: 2 thieves, 1 ele, 1 guardian and 1 engineer. We came upon countless groups of enemies (our size or bigger) and didn’t die once.

One fight was 2 necros, 1 warr, 1 guardian and 1 mesmer. Technically we should have lost, according to all those who are saying warriors, guardians and necros are “OP”. We stomped them all within 1 minute.

It’s ridiculous to come up with “Class x is better than class y.” because no class is better than another. Each has their own strategic elements and advantages, and each has it’s weaknesses.

Thieves have stealth something every group can use to surprise enemies (same goes for mesmers). Elementalists have huge aoe abilities. Guardians are decent as tanks. Warriors have a load of direct damage, but most of it melee. Necro is master of conditions, ranger has tank abilities through pet and so on and so forth.

Good players > Bad players, whatever the classes.

This is so true. People seem to think that wvw = zerg. In small guilds or groups skill matters and good people are so kitten deadly.
And whoever said that after 10th december thiefs are useless I wish you much of luck against the improved d/d thiefs.

Trick.9370:

aspirine.6852:

Realll they will do nothing, well our constant complaining or whining what you call has led to this nice topic:
Collaborative Development: World Population
I’d say they are atleast trying to see what they can do about it.

You have also read the first post?

“First I would to lay down some rules for as we move forward regarding how we collaborate with one another:”

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“3: Anger and emotion will have less impact than intelligent discussion.”

So basically, they will ignore you, something I should do also but I’m having a bad day. Excuse me

Touche. =)

Realll they will do nothing, well our constant complaining or whining what you call has led to this nice topic:
Collaborative Development: World Population
I’d say they are atleast trying to see what they can do about it.

Looks like you are having more fun on the forum then in game =)

Very interested in this, ohh I hope it will be good

Ray.2640:

aspirine, it doesn’t matter how many times you say it, it’s not going to change. Just wait till the leagues are over so we can all go back to being stomped by other bronze tier servers.

Ohh, and after 14 months of unbalanced matches, still complaining about it counts as whining. Thank you very much.

I’m not doing wvw for that long, and better to complain about it and hope for the best than to give up on Anet to do something about it. Wvw is the best part of the game, so forgive me if I care enough to get upset about some unfair things.

Agrios.9071:

Thanks for the fight in Garrison (FoW) not long ago, it was really funny for us DEX, we were like 13 with a few pugs that got attracted by the fight markers. The fight got interesting when RoF decided to jump in. Cant remember to get so many lootbags in 1 fight. :p

Yeah man, you made such good use of the choke point stairs. Good tactics, and good use of the map. And good skill of course.

Also the fight after it between us and what felt like the entire RoF population was fun, you really wanted Garrison huh =)

Madthunder.6581:

aspirine.6852:

Ah yeah complaing about unfair matchup is whining. Yes I forgot.

You have no ground to whine when we were against dzag and fow last time. fow did just the same you would constantly come to our bl and eternal keep with omegas so how is it not fair that we do the same?

Really? Did we ever outnumber you 4-1 like you do with fow now? I dont think so because that was before all the guilds went to the ros bandwagon and made your population almost like a silver league server.

I use my slowdowns to guess the size of the zerg outside a keep or castle

But sometimes inside sm, garrison or just any larg battle I just cannot do much because of the lag.

flow.6043:

aspirine.6852:

I dont think I have won any of them against these perplexity spamming pistol thiefs.

If you know you’re going to fight a perplexity user, you should slot Plague Signet. It’s a total hard counter to that rune and will give you an easy win.

@Brigg: picking the right utilities is half the battle, may I ask which ones you’re picking against thieves?

Good tip, I do not run it in small groups because of the condition transfers but never thought about it in this situation. ty.

I can get very frustrated in map chat. People are just happily doing there ap thing and do not help or even want to help. This in combination of constantly being overrun by enormous guildgroups that seem to think they need to have 3-1 in numbers to kill random groups does not help either. The league is made for the gold and silver league, in the bronze it can be a terrible time.

Change to Dark Path to make it shadowstep or faster projectile is a step forward. Might be a bit OP to make it shadowstep, but right now the skill cannot get you to thiefes because it’s not instant and warriors, engis, ranger are too fast for it.

Even worse if they are confusing spamming their skills because many of the necro skills are easily interrupted. I find this setup to be the worst 1-1 encounter with my necro. I dont think I have won any of them against these perplexity spamming pistol thiefs.

I’d rather have an extra utility than any of the elites of the necro. And that is quite the opposite of elite skills in gw1.

Brother Grimm.5176:

aspirine.6852:

The Sixteenth.2561:

10g ? looking for divine or traveler rune ? Yeah, it’s very expensive… But that’s because all the warrior in WvW baught it when it was 6g, emptying the stock.

Traveller because some professions have a severe lack of speed. And speed can be very handy in wvw.

Speaking as a thief that just bought a full set, it’s very useful to have an entire utility skill slot back for whatever I want. Expensive, but worth it in the long run…..and not just in WvW (tho speed boost is definitely NEEDED there).

I want it for that particular reason, 60 gold for the utility slot seems like much. And I got 3 chars that need the runes badly in wvw

Necro myself, and since we have very bad mobility the wise thing to do is use your GS and hop out of the small range of the necro scepter skills. LB has some nice skills to keep me on a distance and keep some pressure on my necro so I have to use staff on you.

Who are you refering to Doc phil? I dont recal saying RoS or Rof got no skill. I have met some great players from both. They are currently smashing us with their big guilds against our much smaller pug’s so we clearly have no chance.
And drakkar, I have seen no good players from them. Not saying they do not have them that would be nonsense. I’m pretty sure they have some very good roamers.
Some vey nice Drakkar veterans posting on the forum showing their disgust for the PVE zerg/blob and even apologizing for it. That was real classy of them.

Never heard of this, if it’s true it’s kinda pathetic.

Ah yeah complaing about unfair matchup is whining. Yes I forgot.

XanoNymOuS.5407:

aspirine.6852:

Classy Ros, taking fow keeps and stuff with 50+ people. Nice going against one of the weakest servers. I bet you are proud of your bandwagon server now huh.

[Sarcasm] Yeah indeed, it was definately intended that we blobbed up and attacked the only keep left on the map. That was very wrong of us, and we or other guilds should just sit and do nothing. [/Sarcasm]

Yes, I forgot we are the only server you are fighting against. You would not want to go against big scary RoF now would you.

No it should go to a lower tier, it’s not worth of being a grandmaster due to it’s weak nature.