The main issue is because Dhuumfire is a high-damage cover condition on a necro. Condtidion necros without counting Dhuumfire typically apply bleeding, poison, weakness, cripple, chill, and torment in their standard play, and that’s before counting the Fear to lock our target out of most condition cleanses.
Dhuumfire is hated because it is high damage that doesn’t actually matter much to the necro, but prevents cleansing of the far more dangerous bleed stack. The necro spent no time at all in adding Burning and, given its short duration, doesn’t really care if it gets removed.
High damage? I have no idea what you are talking about. There is nothing high about it.
at my condi dmg when I run 30/20/0/0/20 is 1890 with will equal about 801 burning dmg per second!
now combine that with:
10 stacks of bleeds – 1370
poison = 269
fear = 1k+no add that together and you get around 3440 dmg a second for lets say 3 seconds thats 10,320 dmg!!
so please tell me again how that is not High dmg?
You are talking about all of those conditions. I am just refering to the grandmaster trait dhuumfire and itself is not that high that it gets ridiculous. imo Backstab is high, earthshaker is high etc.
BS and Earthshaker can be dodged, blinded, blocked and they need to be in melee range.
Burning is guaranteed damage for a necro, burning cannot be blocked blinded or dodged, you do NOT need to be in melee range for this to proc.
Weird that wvw matches you never see an army of necros for that damage. It’s an army of warriors and guardians for the damage. You know why, because direct damage is king, condiotion damage is weak, very weak so it will never be high damage in my book.
Ah no that was not me all my chars are lvl 80.
And we actually have a nice week, RoS and RoF have way higher numbers that FoW but keep eachother also busy without just spending time on us. And unlike the drakkar blob with people below any skill level I have seen they have some very good guilds on both servers. And some nice roamers too.
How is the drakkar blob with people running away instead of fighting and waypointing when they see you =)
i agree, no more dungeon please but more open world stuff. Just in case, since it is not known to be a dungeon.
Vabbi = trebbi
WSR = wipeside ridge
fow= fisure of wussies
blacktibe = blobtide
@aspirine: we miss ya so much…
With love,
Vabbi Roamers Council
:)
lol, I think you schooled me once with a char engineer against my mesmer.
Its funny that people hide the fact that they don’t care about the rewards, I’ve had 3 or 4 guilds from RoS all moan at me because I won’t GvG them since I’ve already got 2 lined up.. if they were really their for the fights/GvG’s maybe the guilds shouldn’t of all gone to 1 server so they could actually fight each other.
Your guild is pretty good. Does your guild have any vids on youtube?
The main issue is because Dhuumfire is a high-damage cover condition on a necro. Condtidion necros without counting Dhuumfire typically apply bleeding, poison, weakness, cripple, chill, and torment in their standard play, and that’s before counting the Fear to lock our target out of most condition cleanses.
Dhuumfire is hated because it is high damage that doesn’t actually matter much to the necro, but prevents cleansing of the far more dangerous bleed stack. The necro spent no time at all in adding Burning and, given its short duration, doesn’t really care if it gets removed.
High damage? I have no idea what you are talking about. There is nothing high about it.
at my condi dmg when I run 30/20/0/0/20 is 1890 with will equal about 801 burning dmg per second!
now combine that with:
10 stacks of bleeds – 1370
poison = 269
fear = 1k+no add that together and you get around 3440 dmg a second for lets say 3 seconds thats 10,320 dmg!!
so please tell me again how that is not High dmg?
You are talking about all of those conditions. I am just refering to the grandmaster trait dhuumfire and itself is not that high that it gets ridiculous. imo Backstab is high, earthshaker is high etc.
i do not like plague signet myself, I have locust instead to run a bit faster. And why 0 trait points in Spite??
Very nice vid again, and still no new mouse to avoid clicking? =)
Imagine how good you would be without it. Also I remember you still being busy perfecting your build, but I also would love to know.
i think Hunter is pretty close with soldiers gear and berserker trinkets.
I am rather sure it won’t be a dungeon to start with.
But no matter, if it is higher than lvl 26 it will most likely apply upscaling.
I hope not, i am getting pretty sick of these dungeons. It’s the opposite of why i started to play mmo, to play with lots of people and not standing around half an hour looking for someone do do a dungeon and then hearing, no necros, no rangers, no ele’s.
I find pistol confusing spamming thieves more than a bit annoying. And a good D/D ele with all their cleansing and mobility.
Honest to god, I have no idea whats going on here… Feels like even if I made the exact same rotation as you twice I wouldn’t deal as much damage
How the hell do they go down so fast? ><
May I ask whats your build and usual rotation?
Looks like people in bad gear, Ihave not seen the whole vid but most of them so far do not even have consumables.
The main issue is because Dhuumfire is a high-damage cover condition on a necro. Condtidion necros without counting Dhuumfire typically apply bleeding, poison, weakness, cripple, chill, and torment in their standard play, and that’s before counting the Fear to lock our target out of most condition cleanses.
Dhuumfire is hated because it is high damage that doesn’t actually matter much to the necro, but prevents cleansing of the far more dangerous bleed stack. The necro spent no time at all in adding Burning and, given its short duration, doesn’t really care if it gets removed.
High damage? I have no idea what you are talking about. There is nothing high about it.
They stomped me at AC, sad 2 or 3 RoS under level players decide to jump several times in my fatigue corpse lie down at snow path, while RoS commander stare at me, wonder how comfortable is leading 20+ people!
I like to believe that those people are not “real” wvw players. I have not seen any of the good guild on RoS or RoF do this to me.
Reganbrock also had some very nice steals of SM while RoF was busy fighing Ros on the other side of SM. And were completly surprised when we took SM from them. Twice in a row
10g ? looking for divine or traveler rune ? Yeah, it’s very expensive… But that’s because all the warrior in WvW baught it when it was 6g, emptying the stock.
Traveller because some professions have a severe lack of speed. And speed can be very handy in wvw.
No, because not everyone will get the chance to enter. Worst case scenario, sub 80’s can be permanently locked out. Everyone paid for this game and should be able to get out to WvWvW if they want to.
An they can get in when they are 80. Not gimping their server also.
Had that a few times, yes I was stupid enough to get killed. I blame myself not the game.
most useless is thief
thief players only run around looking for easy targets to gank them and think they are somehow important soloroaming specialforce
but at the end they are jsut a wasted spot on the map and useless for the serverMOST OF THEM – not all^^
:D a couple of thiefs roaming in BL can be more usefull than your zerg. They are also very good at getting to backline support players and many other things. They are very far from useless.
My necro has never lost from any guardian in small fights. I think this is one of the weakest issue about guardians, not very good in 1-1.
I just cant get used to the very limited range of hammer 2. It’s like I have some very heavy boots because jumping 1 inch is not really doing it for me. Give me earthshaker range please.
Indeed Zikory has the best answer, cleanses everywhere and I am not even denting health. If it’s an unorganized zerg you can still get some kills but in big guilds zergs you can see them cleansing conditions in seconds.
RoS[LOOT]
btw. they should rename from “We Want Your Lootbags” to “We Are Your Lootbags” – thanks for all the loot yesterday
Well mate. Not everytime everething work out how you want. And our guild was created right before season with a lot of people that never been in orginazed raid before.
I think we are making quite a progress with what we have. And who cares, I am having a blast and most of our guild members too.
We had some good fights today. Too bad it kinda feels like being farmed today but that is the way it goes.
Well this is something I can understand, away with these upleveled easy kills.
Green is the colour of love these days, all come to green
Oh wait you are already there.
RIOT was selected: http://teamriot.org/riot-has-been-accepted-as-beta-testers-for-the-edge-of-the-mists/
Looking forward to streaming it as much as possible!
Arrogant kitten got selected, nice to see that Anet does not care about that.
Not sure who you are; but let’s just be friends
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I’m no-one you know. I liked your vids on youtube and twitch. Untill I saw that one you punished not such a good guild and calling them scrubs. Not everyone is a good as you and calling them names made you sound very arrogant.
Is it too long, too often, too much damage?
All of it.
Complaints about it go back to the day this trait was implemented. A quick google search will reveal what is but the tip of the iceberg:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Please-nerf-necro-s/
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Constructive-necromancer-thoughts/
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Dear-Anet-do-not-completely-nerf-Necro/
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/necromancer/Dhuumfire-has-upset-everyone
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/I-ll-say-it-Dhuumfire-needs-to-go/
Ah ok, I can see it’s probably too much for pvp. But I am all for splitting pvp/pve skills. It’s not too much for pve(no such thing as too much there)and wvw with all the consumables and condition clears there.
We know by now that you do not like dhuumfire. Please stop using it and you will be fine. No need for your personal vendetta against it.
I don’t use it. It’s nothing personal, I’m just calling it for what it is, and I’m not the only one.
Okplease enlighten me with whats wrong with this grandmaster trait. Is it too long, too often, too much damage? IMO it’s one of the things needed for condition mancers and without it would hurt them a lot.
Forgive me if you explained it in other topics but usualy I see you posting about how much you dislike it =)
@CHIPS:
I agree with your posts completely. But I think (hope) that “PvP only” means sPvP, not WvW. Most of the time WvW gets the PvE-balance, like Lame-fire.
Weakening Shroud
While it is an incredible strong ability. I do not mind having the bleed entirely moved per Ascii’s post. I would love a 10ICD on demand PbAoE weakness.Per flow’s post
And yeah, I’ll say it again: a longer icd for Weakening Shroud does not promote “bring down raw dps but maintain sustain elements”. All it does is reduce survivability, but still allow for the same condi burst when the trait is off cd.
If you want to reduce weakness uptime, then do just that: reduce the weakness duration of the trait. Because for necros it’s not about uptime anyway, but being able to apply it for a short amount of time when we need it the most.
We know by now that you do not like dhuumfire. Please stop using it and you will be fine. No need for your personal vendetta against it.
Thanks to in no particular order RoF [CC] guild, RoS[LOOT] and RoS[TAZ] guild for some great fights on FoW borderlands and RoS borderlands.
Epic fights in golanta yesterdat evening was also much fun.
Has been a great wvw weekend.
We have been on green for months now
just check this video
Wow killing something that is just standing still is considered good?
Who cares about pve, you can go around naked and win. How about wvw where I love my Ranger but hate my pet.
No No No RoF you got it wrong, we are green. RoS is Blue, and they are that way —-->
Check their BL. We just had our commander competition to see who is the best. I took he T3 bay, sheepie got the T3 garri, Anya has yet to get hills, give us 5 mintues…
And yet you have problem in running after ros taking out keeps and towers and vice versa. It’s the way things go I know.. We just do not stand a chance against these enormous zergs that take turns on hitting us, or at the same time :/
Still way more fun than drakkar blob
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Dude, buy them from TP… Those uncraftable are either on TP or can be bought for dungeon tokken.
Well I play wvw, they sure as hell do not drop there. And sure they are on the tp, 10 old each. Wich is insane of course.
If IMP had drakkar guild numbers they would be in the gold leaugue. You should be gratefull they keep it small.
But there was a sign Detour.
Those RoS kittens.. lets kill them..
All this because of that stupid pvp that 5 people do? Split these two things up if you are to proud to admit your pvp is a complete failure.
Is there anyone on your team that worked on gw1 left? you know they split pvp and pve and there were hundreds of more skills..
@the Surmians who just took Sunnyhill. Please report the 2/3 hackers who where inside already before the gate went down. 1 upscaled Engi who i could report the others i could not report before i got attacked.
We weren’t hacking. Sunnyhill apparently is glitchy like that. I got in with rocket boots completely by accident. This is the first time it happened to me, and I was completely confused and befuzzled when I was inside; I’m sure you would have the same feeling. I didn’t know what to do so I just stood around for a bit and went out when people screamed at me on teamspeak “get out of there asap before you get reported”.
tl;dr: please don’t accuse me falsely of hacking
Sincerely, the “hacking” upscaled engi
In that case who else was with you? As i saw you and 1 or 2 others already attacking lord.
If it was an ele and a guardian, they have done it before.\[edit] not saying they hacked anything but they were in without a mesmer and door/walls intact.
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Well all RoF players, how about giving RoS some of the attention you have been given us? I know we are the easiest and most logical target but they need love too =)
Lol @ opportunist cooldown and shadow return nerf, etc. hahahaha, good thing i already made a Warrior, anet’s favorite.
Not sure if they are their favorite, but I think more the easiest for them.
There is small speculation that the figure behind her is a Margonite. Others think it is an actual Krait prophet.
Unfortunately, it’s likely some random plant/krait mutant boss (similar to the F&F boss and Oakheart).
If it is Margonite/Abaddon however, I will have all faith restored in the future of the story.
Dream big!
We do, the writers on the other hand are not :’)
No answer? I wonder if Anet visits this forum since I do not see any replies from their officials.
yeah, but who but kids and scared-to-play-another-game people will like that expansion. I know they are seriously convincing themselves they like it.
Not a chance, many of the blobbing servers have high rankers just because they walk with the enormous blob while the skilled roamers have much lower rank because they do not care about zerging/blobbing.
Finally some skilled players, as to be expected of RoS and RoF roamers and none Blobbers.
It will no longer cleanse teammates and it will always give a full cooldown when interrupted because its one of the best skills in the game.
How is this one of the best skills then?
I just noticed that sunny hill looks like it has been broken down by our enemies.
Not just me seeing it but some others on fow noticed this too.
Maybe not an exploit but def. a big, reviving through a wall(port/door) should not be possible.