Guild Wars 2

jpersson.7368:

I feel this was a good patch, if I look at the big picture. It’s like they are trying to find a baseline. Sure… my main is a necro, and I feel left out, but they can’t fix everything at the same time.

I honestly believe we’ll have a necro patch early next year (before season 2?, if any) moving us towards the baseline, and that’s the only reason why I’m not pushing my ascended armor.

Diamond skin… I can see this being an issue in PvP, I don’t like passives in general, but I don’t expect it to interrupt my WvW roaming too much. I guess I have to wait and see.

It will if you run into an ele, happened to me while roaming yesterday.

You aren’t the only one. I’m pretty kitten ed, enough so that when ESO comes out I’m uninstalling this game /delete necro just in case and no more donations from now until then. That is assuming they don’t make an attempt at fixing this. No point in playing a game where your favorite class gets smashed.

Merlin Dyfed Avalon.5046:

It has been a pleasure knowing you, but passives have made you utterly useless in pvp
Goodbye putrid mark it was fun while it lasted
Goodbye condition builds for necromancer, you were never the best but you got us to manage.

Hello regen/cleanse and other passive skills that are over the top grab a chair and kitten my wife please, would you like some kitten with that? we are always happy to accomodate you..

#theyhavenoclueliterally

They aren’t getting any more cash flow from this guy. Deleting my necro if they don’t unnerf the class by time ESO comes out.

aDemoNnDisguisE.8576:

Step one … take the code that spawned the Vamp signet and DELETE it.

Step two… randomly face roll my keyboard then re-compile.

Step three … end up with an improvement to the garbage that is the current Vamp signet and Profit.

I retract my previous statement. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This.

Rising Dusk.2408:

Signet of Vampirism

Passive: When you hit a target, you siphon 350 (0.15) life.
Active: Unblockable. Initial Self Heal: 3,960 (0.5). Mark a target. When any player hits this target, they siphon 250 (0.1) life from it. Lasts 5 seconds.
30 second cooldown.
Range 1200.

(And no ICD)

Seriously, the play and counterplay to the active of this would be amazing in SPvP, useful in PvE, and in general just a great skill. And heaven forbid this way it’d actually synergize with Bloodthirst and other life siphoning traits on the passive.

This.

This is beyond ridiculous…

Frigid.6027:

I still find it funny people complain about permastealth. Stand in that RED circle and watch how much fun they have heartseeking through it. Drop aoes around you and see how long that squishy thief hangs around you.

How come its okay for mesmers to have just as much stealth and zerk clones doing who knows how much damage to you while they are still stealthed? Why can necros chain fear you and condi bomb you to death before you can do anything? Why can warriors (list too long)? etc.

tl;dr
-all classes have op builds, 95% of people play them
-l2p or go join the blob and spam 1

Look at the CDs on all fear skills. Necro also have no direct route to vigor and are highly immobile. Necros have long CDs to balance them. Also, you have stun breakers and stability.

zaragoz.6351:

The food does not need to be toned down at all, it works just how it was intended, however consumables as a whole just need to be completely removed from WvW, that alone would go quite a long way with helping with the supposed condition problem people are complaining about. It would be really unfair to all condi players to nerf that condi duration food while leaving all the power and anti condition food in play. A simple and effective way to do it is simply disable consumables in all of WvW, not only would that save WvW players money, it would also help reduce stupid complaint posts like this.

I think it all should be left as is personally. The only way they will stop complaining is if they are playing a class that dominates everything without challenge. Let them complain and the rest of us can have fun roaming or doing whatever.

Boonprot.6274:

borrok.9267:

Boonprot.6274:

Condi application out-paces any condi removal in the game in small-scale. It’s not even funny how far application out-paces removal.

Fighting power builds is different than condi builds. Power builds have several skills that, if dodged, you neutralize the entire burst. Skilled players will make it extremely hard for you to dodge that burst, but it can still be avoided. Contrast that to condi builds where all someone has to do is auto-attack with the occasional utility use to kill the enemy. This is why the skill cap on condi builds is so mind-blowingly low.

If you have a problem with cond, then spec to remove and learn to evade and CC. Stability then CC/dps/blind repeat until they are dead.

Of course, I’m not kittened. However, doesn’t change the fact that condi application far and away overpowers condi removal in small-scale.

I disagree. I constantly switch to and from power because of this. There are a lot of targets that regardless with how much cond I stack on them it doesn’t stick and they still have high DPS. It is completely target dependent. If you were to nerf cond or increase cond removal then you would in turn nerf builds that still have trouble vs several other classes due to their op mechanics. I’m not saying by any means that cond are weak, but just like power builds they have counters and have their somewhat balanced functions. I do think that some classes need to be redesigned and perplex runes might be a poor addition to the game.

Boonprot.6274:

Condi application out-paces any condi removal in the game in small-scale. It’s not even funny how far application out-paces removal.

Fighting power builds is different than condi builds. Power builds have several skills that, if dodged, you neutralize the entire burst. Skilled players will make it extremely hard for you to dodge that burst, but it can still be avoided. Contrast that to condi builds where all someone has to do is auto-attack with the occasional utility use to kill the enemy. This is why the skill cap on condi builds is so mind-blowingly low.

If you have a problem with cond, then spec to remove and learn to evade and CC. Stability then CC/dps/blind repeat until they are dead.

RyuDragnier.9476:

borrok.9267:

RyuDragnier.9476:

IMO there’s only one class making this condition meta a meta to begin with, just due to the sheer amount of conditions available to them…necromancers. I can fight any enemy and not really mind conditions, but a necromancer? I see one, I’m dead. Signet of Spite, Staff Marks, Doom, etc. There are too many conditions in too little time, and they can stack Fear with at least two moves. Get multiples of them, and it gets ridiculous. I had a 15 second fear on once, 15 SECONDS!

I’m not saying nerf the necromancer’s conditions completely per say, I’m saying you need to tone down some of their conditions (maybe the time the conditions have that Marks inflict) and the damage they do, at least for WvW. And possibly make it impossible to stack Fear.

If you see one you’re dead… I hope you aren’t speaking from a thiefs perspective here.

Ranger’s perspective.

Fair enough, rangers I’ll agree are pretty easy spec to cond.

Solstice.1097:

how is it that i can block thieves backstab 90% of the time but I can never block a necro condi bomb? because the skills are insta-cast and have little or no animation/warning?

they should make those powerful condi skills have like a 1 second animation on yourself and you must dodge or block within that 1 second or all the condis proc on you. that would solve everything from my perspective.

My skills are blocked ALL THE TIME. Even corrupt boon has been blocked which was supposed to be unblockable. Though for the skill animation there are a couple skills I do agree that should not be instacast. On the flip side skills like signet of spite take up useful utility spots so having it on bar could be detrimental to some condition builds that NEED utility.

RyuDragnier.9476:

IMO there’s only one class making this condition meta a meta to begin with, just due to the sheer amount of conditions available to them…necromancers. I can fight any enemy and not really mind conditions, but a necromancer? I see one, I’m dead. Signet of Spite, Staff Marks, Doom, etc. There are too many conditions in too little time, and they can stack Fear with at least two moves. Get multiples of them, and it gets ridiculous. I had a 15 second fear on once, 15 SECONDS!

I’m not saying nerf the necromancer’s conditions completely per say, I’m saying you need to tone down some of their conditions (maybe the time the conditions have that Marks inflict) and the damage they do, at least for WvW. And possibly make it impossible to stack Fear.

If you see one you’re dead… I hope you aren’t speaking from a thiefs perspective here.

Renny.6571:

borrok.9267:

It actually is all about coverage. You are able to do that because your enemy server is failing in that department. Against servers with good coverage, holding a keep for a few hours is meh. What’s important is to get new players and keep learning, and keep the new players learning so they don’t make hugely ignorant threads about how conditions that are capped are op and full zerk DPS can’t compare.

The point OP raised is completely valid. Don’t be a jerk.

No he doesn’t, if he did then cond builds would be so wildly op there would be no need to run anything else. I frequently jump between power and cond builds, and I’ve fought just as many people that were kitten near immune to conditions or at least the application to them as I have that were nearly too tough to out DPS. Easy solution if you are a thief… keep going invis and blinding. If you are a Mesmer keep making clones going invis and warping. If you are guard you shouldn’t even be complaining. If you are hunter stay at range and use your ridiculous vigor to evade. There are so many real issues and real mechanics that are over powered but people choose this to complain about…

PookieDaWombat.6209:

I have to say I’ve been fairly absent from this week of play. I only got to jump in there a handful of times early on and was tired of trying to heard a lot of new to WvW players through the map on an internet connection hell bent on flaking out on me more often than not. I was really looking forward to some good fights, but locking up only to find that i was rolled over by 5+ people as the new guys scattered was disheartening and frustrating. I hope this next week will be more fun for me, but since I will be missing reset because of work I have no idea if i’ll even get to play this weekend.

This week as been getting progressively slower, to make up for it I’ve been recording the small things going on lol even those are slow.

atheria.2837:

Master of Timespace.2548:

Junkpile.7439:

If something is op in meaningless fight anet won’t nerft it. Thief stealth is good example.

All fights in WvW are utterly meaningless anyway. The winning team is decided solely by total coverage.

I absolutely disagree.

When I am running a map at 3am PST alone, very alone, I can turn the score to a larger score just but turning sentries and running dolyaks.

Where did you get the idea that a single player in any game against other real players just doesn’t matter? We do. We always have.

We are still learning to be a team on most servers.

Some are not helping by being negative, running from fights and being debbie downers instead of being the mentors who are badly are needed on all servers.

It actually is all about coverage. You are able to do that because your enemy server is failing in that department. Against servers with good coverage, holding a keep for a few hours is meh. What’s important is to get new players and keep learning, and keep the new players learning so they don’t make hugely ignorant threads about how conditions that are capped are op and full zerk DPS can’t compare.

Teej.9241:

borrok.9267:

Teej.9241:

I hope that Asura Mes from the STaR guild that was laughing at “me” in his BL wasn’t actually laughing at his BL (KBL #2) with KAIN’S WP’S in SF’S GARRI AND HILLS. It was fun holding your BL with 4 other friends all day xD

Were there even any SF to defend? Stop bragging about taking things from an empty server. It’s like bragging about kicking a blind puppy.

Lol yes there were about 15-20 SF at the keeps, not to mention the assaults we held off. with 5 people mind you. Who would be proud of taking empty keeps and towers? Not I for one, maybe since that’s the first conclusion you jumped to… you do it a lot? See you on the battlefield and good luck.

15-20 SF during the day? What is this witchcraft?

Teej.9241:

I hope that Asura Mes from the STaR guild that was laughing at “me” in his BL wasn’t actually laughing at his BL (KBL #2) with KAIN’S WP’S in SF’S GARRI AND HILLS. It was fun holding your BL with 4 other friends all day xD

Were there even any SF to defend? Stop bragging about taking things from an empty server. It’s like bragging about kicking a blind puppy.

I don’t think half you people complaining have even the slightest clue about balance. Nuke conditions then every class that plays with them that hasn’t been getting murdered by non-cond warriors, mesmers and thieves now will. golf clap to logic

If I had another necro to roam with reliably I would make a series lol

Youtube was just being funny =D

Junkhaus.4301:

ReinventTheExit.6587:

Why do people always come onto these kinds of posts and say stuff like this.
“Oh, we are not even trying”
“Ooh, we’re burnt out from the 7 week season grind.”

That is complete nonsense. AR is beating SF and Kpop at EVERY single turn. We are taking lead because our WvWvW game has skyrocketed. Yup, we are taking advantage of coverage gaps…but that’s not the entirely we’re wining. Hell it’s prime time for everybody right now and we’re still leading. Hmm. Crazy.

What I’m seeing right now from SF is not the same we fought weeks earlier during the season. The previous SF had the 2nd most participation levels in I’ve seen in WvW, right now it’s quite tame by comparison. I’m not one to kick a server while they’re down. SF deserves a relaxing break from WvW stress and just play for fun, they’ve accomplished a lot during the season. IMO you were the server in bronze that was closest to competing with HoD during your season prime.

You should have some respect from me, at least after all that hate for your server I’ve been reading on last week. Not that I like your SF forum warriors when you are winning and spamming the recruitment posts on the matchup thread, but AR right now… loll. Omg guuyeez, bronze league offseason is teh hardcore real deal! All hail AR! Their genius wvw strategies and grass roots community building is a beacon of hope for all bronze leaguers! Enlighten us in your ways so we may learn to be champions of bronze league offseason.

(Awaiting for AR response)

Yeah you are right. SF has flipped both ways actually. Previously (just an observation)SF was a lot less organized and had significantly more zombies. Over the season, and I think hugely thanks to HoD, SF really pulled together and the commanders got a LOT of good organized fighting experience as well as GvG. On the flip side of that, now that the season’s over, those burnt out are probably on a well deserved vacation in the mythical land of PVE. Given the low numbers I even had time to comfortably roam, and make a crappy vid about it!

ReinventTheExit.6587:

I agree with Mariticide, every server has bad apples. Not even bad apples, overly excited people I should say. AR has been getting our teeth kicked in by every server for months and these last month we’ve been getting our ducks in a row. Do we have some pride in that? Hell yes we do!

As to what borrok has said, you’ve got people that use that bug on EVERY SINGLE SERVER. Don’t cop no self-righteous attitude unless you know for a fact your server has never done it. As to not being scared of us…idk which server you’re on but we’ve got a 21k lead and we own everything sitting on the map that’s worth everything of value. If that’s nothing to be scared of…what is?

We don’t have morning coverage. Notice there was little to no resistance? Wait a few hours and we will take it all back, though the point value is still in your favor due to the time which has elapsed while you had them. Your point spread will continue to grow due to this.

Narcin Roc.3018:

borrok.9267:

Narcin Roc.3018:

I guess Anvil Rock has become a scary server that people need to exploit against in order to beat. It’s quite an honor. Thank you Commander Laylä from [LH]

I hope you are being sarcastic.

Why would that be sarcasm? We took out the zergy beast that is GoM and we’re currently winning this week by 17k atm

If you have anything past primetime coverage you can beat SF. Which you obviously do. Not trash talking or chest thumping etc but your server is not scary, no one is worried about running into you, and it isn’t an honor that a Mesmer wants to capitalize on a free portal in.

Narcin Roc.3018:

I guess Anvil Rock has become a scary server that people need to exploit against in order to beat. It’s quite an honor. Thank you Commander Laylä from [LH]

I hope you are being sarcastic.

bokunocarrie.7215:

just wanna say i hope DH and SF enjoyed our naked zerg, i know we did

A massive wave of naked…

Arius.7031:

Dextra.8162:

Someone commented earlier about how DH runs away from fights with SF or whatever

We only run from VLK zergs. That’s called being sane.

But yeah I have to agree. The [star] zergs even are constantly running when the odds start to even out. They like to wipe disorganized zergs or lower numbered zergs, but if any semi-decent force shows up, they usually get out of there. That said I’m sure Dh does a lot of running itself, I just never see it.

When I tag along with Star they tend to not run away from any fights regardless of size. On the contrary it is usually Star chasing or busting into any amount of people and very often have ignored the single targets to reach an objective. But hey I’ll take your word for it, your server has teleporting necros and ours has fleeing star zergs.

alexandermrgn.3648:

Is this a record of some kind? It’s getting a little awkward, please don’t give up guys— I was loving some of the huge fights outside Stonemist the other day, or the siege on the USS Darkhaven.

We do NOT have morning coverage. It will be like this all week, like it has been forever.

alexandermrgn.3648:

Nah, this tick is what we’re proud of.

We don’t have morning coverage, everyone knows this and is old news.

nehkz.2304:

borrok.9267:

Probably getting deleted after the dec 10 update though lol

Why?

Anyway here’s what I want mine to eventually look like:

Condi gear:
http://i.imgur.com/2YnHVqs.png

Power gear:
http://i.imgur.com/o9hp20O.png

Those look pretty good despite being… mini hahah. Arenanet doesn’t seem to have a direction with necro, which is the only class I like in gw2 so it would really be pointless for me to keep playing lol

Probably getting deleted after the dec 10 update though lol here’s my necro

Yep… I’m probably quitting at this update. Arenanet how do you create a class and not know a thing about it?

Mooncow.6847:

borrok.9267:

losieight.4807:

I think this is more an issue of numbers, not tactics.

When I was rolling in ET BL with a STAR group that had maybe 15 people, we went to north camp and fought vs ET basically for nearly 30min. They had well over 25 and kept running back into the fight. We had I think a total of two downs over the course of 30 min(one of them was a low level anyway), and our bags were all full.

I was witness to this fight you talk about. And I personally downed at least 5-10 of you. I was one of the kaineng in the back

I didn’t see more than 2 go down, maybe they were the ones that strayed from the group.

losieight.4807:

I think this is more an issue of numbers, not tactics.

When I was rolling in ET BL with a STAR group that had maybe 15 people, we went to north camp and fought vs ET basically for nearly 30min. They had well over 25 and kept running back into the fight. We had I think a total of two downs over the course of 30 min(one of them was a low level anyway), and our bags were all full.

Brigg.3961:

clint.5681:

Gab Superstar.4059:

After leading a preliminary investigation into the subject I have discovered the reason why SF and HoD are bad: It’s because they have bad players.

Sincerely,
Detective Miss Winters,
Very Good Detectives [VGD],
“We make Devona’s Rest free of crime!”

I think you may be on to something Sir detective Sir. We need you to dig deeper.

Let me guess…. this is one of those, “They suck when they’re alone and out of their zerg” type of posts? We need originality here, kiddos. Pretending you’re some kind of private kitten just ain’t cuttin’ the mustard!

That isn’t what he said, but if he did I’d agree completely. I’m not claiming to be good, but when roaming I tend to melt people who try to fight without zergs. There was a couple very good players I’ve faced from HoD though. Haven’t even SEEN a player from DR though.

melodyca.8921:

Hope HOD and SF like playing with eachother because GOM is pretty much done for the week. This match completely sucks and nobody wants to play. Will be glad when it ends. And to the SF who danced on my body…show some class. You are winning. Oh and that 70 man zerg that pummeled my group….Did it make you feel better???? Was that really neccessary? All that Bravado. There will come a time when you are in GOMs shoes and be a low population server try to remember that.

When you pretty openly work with another opposing server you really can’t expect to not get zerg mashed lol

Dasefex.4810:

Not being in 1 of the bigger wvw guilds here’s what i saw this week in prime time SF’s huge numbers was working the first 2 days then they just fell off. I have played with MU FBK and VLK this week and their just making it look easy you guys outnumber them 2/3 of the time i dont understand how 4 out of 5 times they will beat you. Better command is needed you guys will get there GG’s. and whoever said they were outnumber 90% of the time i call bs

Call BS all you want, it doesn’t change the fact that in 90% of my fights we have been out numbered.

Odies.8017:

beyonder.9735:

O god [MU] how much more do u wanna brag?? u guys come from T1 come down to bronze where its quite obvious most of the servers/guilds down here don’t have the knowledge or experience of BG/JQ or w.e other top tier servers u guys have played in but then transfer and do all this “amazing stuff” and then rub it in.. but i mean how good are you really if you had to transfer down to bronze and pick your fights where u know work is needed in most of the servers down here big time.. not to mention its a whole guild of you guys that made the move. thinking about the givin situation im really not so impressed anymore… but i guess keep trolling the forums to boost your own ego.

Hey beyonder.9735,

I’m sorry that you got frustrated with our posts on these forums but the main reason to do them was to get SF to come out and fight and they did. We were not here to brag or “thump our chests” as some people say.

We did not transferred the whole guild down here, only 5 MU came down to HoD to help the server in training in all aspects of WvW. The rest of MU members now have come from HoD and never have fought in the “top tiers”. We were sick of the tier 1 ques and tactics and wanted to move down to help a server.

So next time you make a troll post about your frustration do the research before making false accusations and also my account name is here and I’m more than welcome to talk in whispers.

I hope SF as a whole is having as much fun as we are and take this as a way to improve your tactics. We are also more than welcome to talk and help out as much as we can.

Actually I learned tremendously of how zergs should function intelligently. I think most of SF is having a lot of fun here. The soul fact that our zergs have stopped being zombies(the ones I’m apart of) is awesome. Granted, that isn’t to say that HoD is better in any way, but it seems as though HoD came in strong with numbers and tactics while we being complacent had unorganized numbers and limited use of tactics. I think the battles will get better because of the tightening up, and I was promised cake at one of your keeps. Or assumed there was cake there… Probably promised.

Jereme.1840:

borrok.9267:

Jereme.1840:

Thunsam.3907:

Good fights in Garrison HoD. Glad you guys are putting us to the test.

Was a fun Farm, /Shrug. Takes you 4 pushes to take a paper Garrison back with a full server blob? Killed so many SF I got diminishing returns.

It took us 4000 people to beat your 5 people that held gari, in addition to goms 3 more. Well played sir… well played.

Admitting it is the first step.

You are true Spartans. We had to use special magic to keep a que from preventing our massive hordes of SF zombies from stacking on you.

Jereme.1840:

Thunsam.3907:

Good fights in Garrison HoD. Glad you guys are putting us to the test.

Was a fun Farm, /Shrug. Takes you 4 pushes to take a paper Garrison back with a full server blob? Killed so many SF I got diminishing returns.

It took us 4000 people to beat your 5 people that held gari, in addition to goms 3 more. Well played sir… well played.

King Amadaeus.8619:

Arius.7031:

borrok.9267:

Jereme.1840:

borrok.9267:

Jereme.1840:

borrok.9267:

SF has been outnumbered in 90% of every fight I’ve been in.

Screens or it didn’t happen! All kidding aside, I highly doubt that you have been outnumbered 10% of the time. Our 20 -30 man groups just outplay your 20-30-40+man groups.

That’s whats really going on.

I’m SF, which means I have been outnumbered 90% of the time. I used to be a roamer, but hod has such HUGE numbers on all bls and eb I’m zerging up now..

I guess my statement was above your comprehension level.

I will simplify it, Write it in Crayon

1. If you’re roaming you shouldn’t run into 20+ man groups

2. If you’re SF and in a group there is no way in hell that you have been outnumbered at anytime most likely in this match up maybe 10% of the time.

3. SF clearly outnumbers HOD number wise, skill wise that may vary

understand?

1. I roamed in and engaged groups of less than 5.

2. Every single engagement today has been severely outnumbered by hod(while in zerg, so you don’t confuse roaming and zerg again).

3. You have it backwards.

Understand?

Jereme is actually correct on number 3. I have faced both of your servers, and unless Darkhaven outnumbers SF (which is a laughable thought), then HoD is certainly outnumbered by you. HoD wins on coordination and their zergs being high quality.

You should find it odd that two GoM people have came in and said that your post is funny :P.

You all would be right if it weren’t for a little thing called: variation. The HoD you faced may or may not be the same ones “server _” faces.

Populations are not static, so saying as a generalized statement that: “Server A has more people than Server B” is not really accurate. Because you always have to take into account outside variables: PVE, fairweathers, snowballing, etc.

You are all arguing about my own experiences with zergs vs HoD, and you don’t find it the least bit odd. I specifically said we were out numbered 90% of the fights I have been in. I really don’t know how to make it any clearer than that.

ptitminou.6489:

borrok.9267:

Bllade.1029:

borrok.9267:

SF has been outnumbered in 90% of every fight I’ve been in.

Are you stacking on an enemy commander or something?

I feel some yo mama jokes coming on.

Nope, that’s just how it’s been.

If you don’t play during NA Primetime, I don’t doubt it. A lot of people didn’t even go to bed in the hopes to match HoD’s numbers on Friday. Since Saturday, when they couldnt take it and went to bed, we’ve had the outnumbered buff too much outside EBG.

Yeah I am stuck with an odd schedule but it’s still wild, the fights are great regardless.

Bllade.1029:

borrok.9267:

SF has been outnumbered in 90% of every fight I’ve been in.

Are you stacking on an enemy commander or something?

I feel some yo mama jokes coming on.

Nope, that’s just how it’s been.

Goosekilla.2796:

Awesome fights all weekend GoM and SF! Hamburger hill is ours though and you will never win it.

Wild. Probably the best 3 battles I’ve had in the last 2 months were at hills or SM this weekend…

JahRo.6432:

borrok.9267:

Jereme.1840:

borrok.9267:

Jereme.1840:

borrok.9267:

SF has been outnumbered in 90% of every fight I’ve been in.

Screens or it didn’t happen! All kidding aside, I highly doubt that you have been outnumbered 10% of the time. Our 20 -30 man groups just outplay your 20-30-40+man groups.

That’s whats really going on.

I’m SF, which means I have been outnumbered 90% of the time. I used to be a roamer, but hod has such HUGE numbers on all bls and eb I’m zerging up now..

I guess my statement was above your comprehension level.

I will simplify it, Write it in Crayon

1. If you’re roaming you shouldn’t run into 20+ man groups

2. If you’re SF and in a group there is no way in hell that you have been outnumbered at anytime most likely in this match up maybe 10% of the time.

3. SF clearly outnumbers HOD number wise, skill wise that may vary

understand?

1. I roamed in and engaged groups of less than 5.

2. Every single engagement today has been severely outnumbered by hod(while in zerg, so you don’t confuse roaming and zerg again).

3. You have it backwards.

Understand?

Stop roaming in EB then.

Haven’t been.

Jereme.1840:

borrok.9267:

Jereme.1840:

borrok.9267:

Jereme.1840:

borrok.9267:

SF has been outnumbered in 90% of every fight I’ve been in.

Screens or it didn’t happen! All kidding aside, I highly doubt that you have been outnumbered 10% of the time. Our 20 -30 man groups just outplay your 20-30-40+man groups.

That’s whats really going on.

I’m SF, which means I have been outnumbered 90% of the time. I used to be a roamer, but hod has such HUGE numbers on all bls and eb I’m zerging up now..

I guess my statement was above your comprehension level.

I will simplify it, Write it in Crayon

1. If you’re roaming you shouldn’t run into 20+ man groups

2. If you’re SF and in a group there is no way in hell that you have been outnumbered at anytime most likely in this match up maybe 10% of the time.

3. SF clearly outnumbers HOD number wise, skill wise that may vary

understand?

1. I roamed in and engaged groups of less than 5.

2. Every single engagement today has been severely outnumbered by hod(while in zerg, so you don’t confuse roaming and zerg again).

3. You have it backwards.

Understand?

I understand, bad at the game, bad at basic math, and clearly in denial.

Hope all SF doesn’t cry like this

Are you serious lol basic math, we have zerg of about 27-30… we run into a 40+ zerg of you people, several times over and over. So with your math 30 > 40+. GG. And in all fairness, I haven’t complained about it once.

Jereme.1840:

borrok.9267:

Jereme.1840:

borrok.9267:

SF has been outnumbered in 90% of every fight I’ve been in.

Screens or it didn’t happen! All kidding aside, I highly doubt that you have been outnumbered 10% of the time. Our 20 -30 man groups just outplay your 20-30-40+man groups.

That’s whats really going on.

I’m SF, which means I have been outnumbered 90% of the time. I used to be a roamer, but hod has such HUGE numbers on all bls and eb I’m zerging up now..

I guess my statement was above your comprehension level.

I will simplify it, Write it in Crayon

1. If you’re roaming you shouldn’t run into 20+ man groups

2. If you’re SF and in a group there is no way in hell that you have been outnumbered at anytime most likely in this match up maybe 10% of the time.

3. SF clearly outnumbers HOD number wise, skill wise that may vary

understand?

1. I roamed in and engaged groups of less than 5.

2. Every single engagement today has been severely outnumbered by hod(while in zerg, so you don’t confuse roaming and zerg again).

3. You have it backwards.

Understand?

Jereme.1840:

borrok.9267:

SF has been outnumbered in 90% of every fight I’ve been in.

Screens or it didn’t happen! All kidding aside, I highly doubt that you have been outnumbered 10% of the time. Our 20 -30 man groups just outplay your 20-30-40+man groups.

That’s whats really going on.

I’m SF, which means I have been outnumbered 90% of the time. I used to be a roamer, but hod has such HUGE numbers on all bls and eb I’m zerging up now..

SF has been outnumbered in 90% of every fight I’ve been in.