Guild Wars 2

On a side note, grats on the win this week BG.

Pervin.5036:

Secondly, as others have stated, GvG’ing and WvW’ing are two separate animals. GvG has a lot of theory crafting, composition selecting and build structuring with a bit of situational awareness. While some of that goes into WvW as well (in particular the build structuring), the level of situational awareness, screen panning, terrain manipulation, and simply adapting to what you have is completely different in WvW. In GvG you don’t have to adjust to a third party coming in during the middle of a fight. I respect GvG leaders for the time and effort they put into it, but it’s not WvW (hopefully Anet puts a larger arena feature in to make it easier on you).

On a class specific micro-scale, the build/gear I run in WvW compared to GvG is different. I focus more on killing in WvW whereas GvG is more support oriented.

LilMcGinley.3890:

pot.6805:

Burl.9567:

pot.6805:

So how is the weather?

85 and humid out. Terrible weather this last few weeks.

It is 89 right now, supposed to get up to 93 (33c) and yes the humidity has been terrible.

My AC has been putting in massive overtimes, hope he doesn’t get burnt out.

93.. I’d KILL for 93.. Come live in Texas, we had 100 Straight Days of 100F heat last year + humidity… My AC is set at 74F and runs every 15 minutes at night and we still need extra fans.

Unless you live on the coast… Texas doesn’t know real humidity.

Babblechew.8409:

How did IRON lose? They won’t do any GvG.

I’ve GvG’d them and also watched them fight someone else in a GvG.

For sake of accuracy…

Clockradio.3257:

LOL to people who think TW is a huge guild. They’re just one of the more active WvW guilds on SoR, so you just see the same people a lot.

Perception vs. Reality often differs, sometimes greatly.

The reality is that our normal peak numbers are generally in the 20’s. On reset night we push the low 30’s online, but generally only get half that in with the rest getting stuck in queues.

Robot Chocken.7012:

I can promise you Waha will keep hitting SoR if they trash him and ATM here on the forums.

Promise? Can he talk the NA crew into doing it too?

Yeah Virtue, spot on. I wish there was a little more flexibility in the ascended gear so we can interchange things like exotics. Until that happens or new gear is added, I simply will perform better without them.

I don’t even use ascended gear currently by choice because the min/max stat combination for my style of play / class is better in exotics.

Well weakness is much stronger now considering it works on non crit attacks too

I use GoEP starting in air to weaken everyone hitting my melee train and/or enemy melee train (they generally will have stability anyways so weakness is obvious choice).

Waffler.1257:

Armor and health pool are obviously the only things that determine how powerful a class is. Warrior needs to be nerfed.

…and you missed the point entirely.

Oh, and warriors are a pivotal part of the best WvW guilds.

LordByron.8369:

Lightsbane.9012:

Chimaster.8165:

Chill out, this class has been nerfed into oblivion.

not nearly as hard as engineer or necromancer in the past. builds were utterly destroyed on engineer. d/d bunker ele is still one of the most powerful things in the game.

If you think D/D is good at WWW you are possibly unexperienced….but if you think that necro is or WAS UP in WWW i suspect you really should play WWW more before judging things..

Its like saying thief is bad at roaming.

Yeah necros are one of the most powerful classes in WvW. There is one ele d/d build with a small variation that is still viable in WvW, but you would still most likely be better off staff in most large scale situations.

sinject.4607:

you can’t argue this is fair in any respect because it’s simply not, it’s a flat out unfair advantage.

Stealth is an unfair advantage too. LEts take that away while we are at it.

Aberrant.6749:

You can’t seriously be comparing an ele to a warrior… and come to the conclusion that the ele is the one that needs extra love in WvW…

Not my conclusion at all. That is something you are injecting into my comment that wasn’t there.

I am saying that you should leave vapor form alone because you are complaining about something that required the class to already be in a down state to use…. a class that is extremely easy to put in that state for the most part due to their loss of survivability tools, healing, and mobility over the past months.

Keep in mind that is true of every class except for Guardians.

I suspect I have quite a good grasp of “group play”, thanks.

Aran.8659:

“This is from a ATM commander: “And those who didn’t get to see my post, right now SEA time only left ATM, FOO (I believe is coming back) and GE as the main forces and we are trying to break SOR’s SEA morale by washing away all their tier 3 keeps if possible and let their kitteny EU forces feel the pinch. We do not know whether it will work or not but we do know we are having so much fun doing that. So bear with us guys, we will continue that until either major WVW guilds joined us or make SOR break up. This is how we did to SOS and hopefully it will work on SOR.”

SOR I look forward to watching you guys crash and burn

SoR is like steel in the hands of a grandmaster Japanese craftsman. You can apply heat, pressure, bend, fold, and hammer us… and we only get harder and sharper like a katana blade.

Sadly you will break long before we do.

Sir Erighan.9260:

covenn.7165:

Sir Erighan.9260:

Get about ~17k HP, 2100 Power, 3200 Attack, 2450 Armor, 35% Crit, 60% Crit Dmg

Just some advice: Play with your gear/food/stacks some.

Well, that’s constructive feedback. I, and I’m sure others, would love to know what optimal staff builds you run.

Oh it was constructive.

If you want details and are on my server, hit me up in game. Otherwise, get to playing with different equipment layouts

People saying GoEP is weak ?! Really?

I can see why its not so strong in some circumstances, but it is extremely powerful in WvW. I would actually consider it borderline over powered in the hands of a good player. Putting a stun break on it basically only resulted in the ele class losing a viable stun break though…

Glyph of storms is useful in earth, but it would be more useful if it could be cast at max range and was more responsive.

People that are complaining about warriors in WvW are clueless as to what the current meta is to be honest. The best guilds are running them for a reason…. because they own face in a melee train.

zepp.4109:

thanks TW for the bags tonight.
^.^

I should be thanking you. 2200 kills to 0 deaths for me fighting you and the other server last night. Not bad given how short my play time was.

Keep bringing it!

Edit: I forgot about my one death to gravity. I am not sure falling counts as a death considering I was at full health when I fell, but I have to give gravity mad props because it generally does a better job of killing me than players.

Nerfing FGS for its mobility would be sad considering that it is an elite.

Punny.9210:

well another fact is SoR also pvdoor pretty much during NA time as well because of

their overwhelm numbers during that time. ( especially early NA )

It’s shame for BG though. >>

Maps only allow a certain amount of people in. It is a shame that those ‘overwhelming’ numbers can’t be matched during NA on a NA server. I know both JQ and BG have the numbers to fill the maps up if people actually came out to play.

Vash.9183:

Oh yeah, because you decide what I was trying to say, right? Yeah. You are one bored guy. I’m guessing the overtime is really getting to you. Spam more. :P

Your words decided how people interpret what you are saying. If your words did not properly portray your intent to others, then you should work on explaining yourself in a less inflammatory manner.

Vash.9183:

Why does TW insist on making these threads into huge troll-fests? The evidence is in the game. I’m not going to sit here and play your game in the forums.

I am confused as to why you are blaming TW for making this thread into a troll fest when it was your unfounded accusations that were actually the cause. Please explain yourself. Thanks

Fade.7658:

The only game I ever played where there was an “all call” was DAoC.

CTA ! I remember those days back when I could game from the office. Someone would email me when this would happen and I would log in from work.

Stop that relic raid!

Vash.9183:

All-call of sorts, as in a server rally. Not a subpoena demanding that you be in WvW or else.

That was not your original implication. Still… even your downplay isn’t accurate.

Very nice attempts though.

Burl.9567:

Vash.9183:

covenn.7165:

Vash.9183:

You are just mad and should obviously just be left alone on this matter.

Watch out Burl! You are quite obviously very mad. I believe him completely.

Do I need to log in to the game and give you a soothing talk and play some soft music because you are being forced into taking vacation from work to slave away for long hours at this game?

Edit: Luckily I got a pass this week from the all-call due to the 20 hour days I put in all last week.

All-call of sorts, as in a server rally. Not a subpoena demanding that you be in WvW or else.

What’s the point of that? If you planned on playing WvW, you still will and if you didn’t plan on playing, you still won’t.

Logic ..does not compute.

MagiKarp.8201:

Just because you post 5 times in a row, doesn’t make you right.

No, the content of what I posted because it is right is what makes me right.

Vash.9183:

You are just mad and should obviously just be left alone on this matter.

Watch out Burl! You are quite obviously very mad. I believe him completely.

Do I need to log in to the game and give you a soothing talk and play some soft music because you are being forced into taking vacation from work to slave away for long hours at this game?

Edit: Luckily I got a pass this week from the all-call due to the 20 hour days I put in all last week.

Vash.9183:

Everyone who has been playing WvW knows SoR has had an all-call of sorts going on for the past 2 days.

What is an all-call ? That is simply one of the funniest things I have heard on these boards to date. It is a little absurd to to think anyone would dictate other people’s play time and even more absurd that anyone would actually listen to them.

This is a game, not a job. lmfao

Vash.9183:

Well considering that I play SEA time every day, then yes. I have considered this.

Obviously you have not or your responses would be considerably different.

Lets say I live in Indonesia and my play time is in the evening for me due to work and I am in TW, which is a NA guild. I also have a commander tag and will lead people because I like to do that sort of thing.

Am I putting in over time because I am playing during my normal hours just like I have every other evening for the past 9 months?

Perhaps common sense should rule before some people post… just perhaps.

Rigel.3092:

“A few guys”? You, sir, are hilarious. I have seen whole SoR guilds on more than a few hours

Stop right there. Read the conversation from start to finish and follow it in context.

You are missing something big that is making your response look silly.

Vash.9183:

Yeah, that is still overtime.

Umm, no it is not. Have you considered that perhaps this is the person’s normal play time, regardless of commander tag or not?

Probably not.

Burl.9567:

I must have missed the memo about my own guild having to pull overtime.

Me too.

I saw we had 7 people online and 4 in WvW.

I keep forgetting that 1 tag = the whole borderland being a part of that guild

Rush timed right can down a player from full health in 2 seconds. That puts the burst in line with that of a thief in zerker gear getting full opening rotation on you. Is it OP in comparison considering it takes and elite + utility to use… no. However, we seem to get anything nerfed that approaches on thief capability (mobility / ability to chose fights, escape, etc.).

That spot can be hit from ACs in multiple locations … not sure what I am supposed to be shocked at.

Some of you need to delete your posts before something gets changed. Seriously.

Sir Erighan.9260:

Get about ~17k HP, 2100 Power, 3200 Attack, 2450 Armor, 35% Crit, 60% Crit Dmg

Just some advice: Play with your gear/food/stacks some.

…or any fight against another player. Simply put:

1. See the animation
2. Count in your head
3. Dodge

Even if they flash to you last second, you just dodged the churn.

If it was just 2 sides, things would get more lopsided than they already are. Three sides adds a huge change up to fights…. generally the third side gets to be king maker. That is one of the things I enjoyed back when SoR was a huge under dog.

Kodiak.3281:

covenn.7165:

Conditions on an ele….. lol.

You should try it.

It costs nothing in PvP to give it a shot. Why not give it a kitten try and see if it’s as bad as you think it is? Worst case scenario is you don’t like it or won’t take it serious enough to give it a real go and go back to playing something else instead.

I have. That is why I am laughing. I am a student of the game and it just viable against many classes providing they are driven by a competent player.

If it works for you though, that should be all that matters.

Conditions on an ele….. lol.

hammer.9721:

All 3 servers get double teamed its a flaw of the 3 server match up anet made.

Flaw? Not even remotely a flaw. Three sided matches are far far better than 2 sided matches. That was proven in DAOC a long time ago.

Speaking of being 2v1’d …can you please start doing it during NA hours? Thanks

mathras.2450:

covenn.7165:

Not really, most players do not care about animations/skins. MMOs are a different play style than FPS and that is why most players play… not because of lame little dragon wings on your back.

You’re deluding yourself, friend. I’ve been playing MMOs for over 10 years, and I guarantee that visual elements are a huge reason for the majority playing, especially in this game.

Yeah, I have been playing for over a decade too. There are two groups of players, those who cares about visual elements and those who farm those players in PvP. I am a member of the latter.

What I disagreed is you saying ‘most’, not that they exist. The majority is also not true …at least in games like this one. If you are referring to games like WoW or EQ, then you would be accurate.

Not really, most players do not care about animations/skins. MMOs are a different play style than FPS and that is why most players play… not because of lame little dragon wings on your back.

Condition damage with staff is a joke against anyone with a cleanse available or anyone standing near anyone with AoE cleanses. You cannot reapply your conditions reliably and quick enough to be more viable than dealing direct damage.

Oh… and I hit like a truck AoE with my staff build while keeping 15k tough / 20k health with stacks.

Vash.9183:

Doubt that is going to happen. SoR morale is very high and it seems they have an all-call going on. Have seen literally every SoR guild in full force, lol. Emphasis on full force.

Going to be a lot of people in trouble at their office for skipping out on work today.

TC has a pretty strong NA bunch compared to BG/JQ in my opinion, so there is at least that.

Burl.9567:

Indo does great work.

He stays up 25 hours a day.