Guild Wars 2

Xom.9264:

Sorry you did not enjoy the fights I used to lose all the time the first few weeks I faced people at the windmill duel area also, you get better with practice.

The majority are not condi ‘spam’ as a necro Im the only pure condi person, the mes is hybrid the rest are direct damage or hybrid leaning power. Even you’re a hybrid spec as an ele burning etc…

I can’t even post anything here but ‘lol’.

I don’t even know what to tell you if you think I don’t know how confusion works and how to play around it or have never played against opponents good enough to interrupt my abilities.

When it was the extreme fotm before the nerfs, I fought countless confusion mesmers. I even fought you a few times with your pain inverter build and won each time. And now that it is becoming quite fotm again, I’ve fought confusion builds of just about every class.

Confusion IS a problem right now in small scale fights.

I had not heard that the duration was broken, the increase must just be due to the builds/food that has become so popular these days, and of course the proc on hit.

Also, total damage isn’t the problem, uptime is. It doesn’t take a massive amount of confusion damage to kill someone if it’s possible to keep them confused pretty much 100% of the time for a decent amount.

The people supporting this rune are missing what makes it so over the top. Stacks on interrupt is very annoying, but not gamebreaking by itself.

What makes the rune set so over the top is the rest of what it gives. +30% confusion duration combined with all the other condition duration people run and the 20% chance to proc confusion on hit means there is no break between confusion stacks.

Back before the wvw confusion nerf when it was super fotm, it was possible to find and create openings where you could attack. That is no longer possible.

I know this issue is going to be polarized by playstyle, it was the last time as well for quite a long time. The people who think wvw is running in a massive zerg won’t even notice these runes. The people who think wvw is 20v20 gvg with nonstop condition clears will probably notice the confusion but think it is balance. And the people who think wvw is 10 or less vsX are going to absolutely hate what confusion does to the game.

Confusion by itself is a bad mechanic which shouldn’t be in the game. Confusion + torment is one of the stupidest things I’ve seen in an MMO. I don’t know if this will get fixed or not, but right now, small scale fighting is all about confusion + torment + cover conditions.

Also, <3 to old friends who have posted here.

Darek.1836:

lol 2 guardians much better
no offense but reminds me of how PAXA thought they were so awesome because they brought 2-3 guards for 5 mans. and yeah Yarr is guilty of it too at times.

What choice is there? When BS wanted to do some equal numbered fights, aside from a couple guardians, every single person they brought was a condi spam build. When this is what guilds are bringing to fights, there really isn’t much choice.

It really is kitten near everyone running condi confuse builds now. I even fought a condi ele running confusion spam. Was ridiculous. Part of the problem with the current confusion spam is torment. The combination of the two means there is nothing to do. If you kite out the confuse, torment kills you. If you try to clear your conditions, confuse kills you. If you sit there doing nothing, anything kills you.

Confusion spam by itself is overpowered and horrible for the game. Confusion + torment makes it so you might as well just /sit and wait to die.

D/D is trash now, especially with damage builds. If you enjoy the weaponset, all you can do is plod through it and wait for the devs to stop being lazy and get around to balancing the game. About the only bright side is if balance ever swings our way again, you’ll be a lot better after playing severely underpowered than all the fotm eles that reappear.

Man, the game is just so much better these days.

insanemaniac.2456:

careful, [bags] doesnt like it when theyre dumb enough to follow someone into fully upgraded keep guards and 2 of their 4 die to 1 person. they try to troll you by letting you rot in downed state the next time you fight 4v4.

lol

I don’t think this word means what you think it means.

Actually I take that back. You can be successful when trying.

I really hope this isn’t a serious post.

Kcrook.3945:

Couldn’t agree more. I can churn out every condi cleanse I have while laying into a necro/engi zerker style and still get killed by conditions. It’s just the rate at which they are applied and how easy it is to spam them that makes it difficult to beat with anything but more conditions. But that is the state of the game so…yeah..

Yep. I don’t tend to run from 1v1s when I’m losing, but I have no issue doing it to fotm condi builds. Cheese like that doesn’t deserve to be rewarded with kills.

Phaeton.9582:

katniss.6735:

I took the plunge. It does work on shocking aura, and it seems to proc almost every fight from regular hits.

condi ele new meta..? Shame we can’t get it in spvp

Heh. Wait until you run into other condi classes running them before you say you wish they were in spvp.

Was fun fighting you this evening Basic. I don’t know his name, but the s/d ele I fought like 30 times was a hell of an opponent.

Buffing fire traits won’t do anything. Arcane and water are too essential to give up, so even if the fire trait line were really good, it would just compete with air/earth for points. Fire would have to be severely overpowered for anyone to take it over water/arc.

Biggest problem with traits isn’t actually the traits themselves, it’s the general weakness of the class that forces elementalists into arc/water to make up for it. And sure 30/30 isn’t necessary at all, but not taking at least a decent amount of both is just suicide for pvp.

If they buff the traits without fixing the core problem, it’s just going to make the situation worse.

Meh, to the s/d ele in BS. I’m just going to start ulting too.

Petezahut.3068:

dreztina.4820:

Any roamers out tonight?

what is roaming friend?

If you have to ask…

Any roamers out tonight?

Darek.1836:

quit qq’ing. it’s the weekend. besides FC and ET have some of the best roamers in he bottom few (if not all) tiers.

Like who? Yarr is the only good guild on FC, and I have yet to lose a 1v1 to anyone on ET. Maybe I just need to look around some more.

Chase.8415:

dreztina.4820:

I sure hope not. I have zero interest in tpvp, and it would be quite a shame if I had to grind tournies to get a legendary.

So basically, you want Legendaries to be farmed in hot joins? Do you now see how this would be an issue for players? People will be running bots that ruin the experience of others just to get a legendary.

Just because you say something more than once, doesn’t make it true.

I sure hope not. I have zero interest in tpvp, and it would be quite a shame if I had to grind tournies to get a legendary.

This is seeming like a spvp week. Play a primetime, nothing but zergs. Play at offpeak, nothing but zergs.

Expansive.3716:

And just generally speaking, there are many people who think the Mesmer is this god-like profession that is so hard to face. Why because of the clones? lol

The Mesmer isn’t a class that just throws out phantasms then sits back and drinks coffee. There’s a lot more involved than that.

Ya, the phantasm mesmer is a seriously high skill build. After you get your phantasms up, you have to do some serious decision making to do.

Do you want to teleport? Do you want to stealth? Do you want to go invulnerable? And that’s just the first decision. Since you have at least two abilities that grant each of those, next you have to decide which to use.

It’s just so many things to think about.

The herds seem to be out in full force tonight. Hopefully this calms down in a few hours. Not even worth playing right now.

milo.6942:

Gandarel.5091:

@jcbroe, they are pushing e-sports snce headstart.. and yeah everyone blames this for the game’s poor gamemode variety.

game mode variety is limited by the fundamentals of the combat system. devs have said as much before. things like no energy (which contributes to elites on 1+ minute cooldowns) and no healers (greatly reduces teamfight time) prevent team deathmatch modes from lasting long enough to mean anything.

That’s such a load of crap. Hotjoins are kitten near deathmatch, and they are by far the most popular part of spvp. Deathmatch has never been tried. The devs played a couple games of it in house during development, decided they didn’t like it, and figured that was enough for them to make up their mind and never go back on it.

At this point, I’m pretty sure the devs just don’t want to be proven wrong after how insistent they’ve been. Even if they didn’t want to make a new map for deathmatch (because the maps they do make are so incredibly awesome right?), all they had to do was make it possible to turn nodes off in customs. If people liked it, they would play it, if they didn’t, they wouldn’t.

I do think it was a rather dumb decision to hold off balancing until after PAX. The GW2 esports scene is miniscule, the tournament has no significance beyond itself, a number of the good/known teams aren’t using their full rosters or aren’t even there due to region restrictions, etc.

This is a puny little tournament that means practically nothing to anyone outside of those participating in it and the very few people supporting GW2 esports. And yet, despite that, the entire GW2 population is forced to wait months for critical balance changes so that the players in the tournament have it a little easier.

katz.8376:

Darek.1836:

dreztina.4820:

Sigh. Stop saving the trash I’m killing Yarr.

bet ya 100g 90% of yarr could kill you 1v1

would be very interesting to know where the pause is in that sentence. is it “Stop saving the trash I’m killing, Yarr” or “Stop saving the trash, I’m killing Yarr.”

I’m not sure why it would be so interesting, but the answer is the former. I was killing baddies and some of ’em jumped in a few times to prevent a stomp/kill me.

Sigh. Stop saving the trash I’m killing Yarr.

I don’t remember ET, are there any roamers I should be looking for?

Strongest build I’ve found that still has damage is 0/15/10/15/30.

Air 1, Earth 6, Water 5, Arc 5, 6, 11

Armor is a mix of pvt and knight’s. Jewelry is ascended zerk except knight’s accessories with ruby jewels. Mix of ruby/beryl jewels socketed in the armor. Weapons are pvt with Hydromancy and Force.

I end up with about 15.6k health, 2.5k armor, 3k power, 60% crit chance with fury, 63% crit damage.

Utils are ether renewal, armor of earth, arcane wave, lightning flash, avatar of melandru (stomps). Food is precision wrench and steal health on crit (adds both damage and survivability).

I don’t hit as hard as I used to, but my damage is still reasonable and my survivability is acceptable.

Ostricheggs.3742:

Also:

http://www.twitch.tv/ostricheggs/c/2760126

lol

Wait, an asura? I’m pretty sure you were a human female when I saw you in spvp. You aren’t that engineer with the Tiny tag are you?

Edit: Nvm, saw Oozo’s vid. I know I saw that tag during the week, but I really can’t remember the circumstances.

JoopFOX.9510:

I’m not aware of this. It does have a pretty long cast time, which can be interrupted. Alternatively, you can try to use Line of Sight so the phantasm won’t go off. And then, if it does go off, you can still dodge its attack and it will be on another 6-7 cooldown. Also, it has much less hp than it used to (with signet of illusions), making it vulnerable to AoE, especially since permaretal has been removed.

My advice for OP would be: play it, you’ll find plenty of ways to counter phantamesmer.

Weird, I could have sworn they were going to make the cast itself dodgeable so the phantasm wouldn’t appear if you dodged it as a way to make it more in line with other classes’ abilities. Maybe it was just an idea that was getting tossed around but never went beyond that.

Jesse.4631:

dreztina.4820:

There’s not a single person here. :|

we’re in AR bl man, you might be at DR

That explains it. ><

There’s not a single person here. :|

Guessing fight club is long done?

On the subject of phantasms, I seem to remember a change a while back where you could dodge phantasm casts, but I can’t for the life of me get it to work. Am I just mistiming it, or did that change not go through?

Oozo.7856:

Then, of course, there are the cases when the people really are doing questionable things. What needs to stop are accusations of hacking with no proof to back it up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aM1wuqgzCk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CNsjBQMRG0

“Chasing him for 10 seconds and Oozo is halfway across the map, ‘Guys where are you!?’”

“Are you guys gonna help?”

I lol’ed. Had that exchange more than a few times myself.

Nuzt.7894:

dreztina.4820:

So I believe I was told there were dozens of skilled roamers on AR. I’ve put a lot of hours in roaming this week, and I have yet to come across a single skilled player from that server. Week’s almost over, where are all of you hiding?

From you previous posts, its hard to believe you managed to find your way out of your spawn.

Ya, I’m really bad at finding things. Maybe that’s why I can’t find any good players from AR.

So I believe I was told there were dozens of skilled roamers on AR. I’ve put a lot of hours in roaming this week, and I have yet to come across a single skilled player from that server. Week’s almost over, where are all of you hiding?

Worst teleport in the game. Compare lightning flash to shadowstep. You think I give a kitten about a measly 1.5k damage when it means giving up 300 range, the ability to port back, and condition clearing?

Lightning flash is absolutely terrible compared to similar skills, but there’s no choice about running it simply because the ability to instantly be somewhere else is invaluable.

I find it somewhat humorous that the only guild I’ve found in this matchup with skilled players is being accused of hacking to compensate for skill.

Madax.1053:

Hacks and Spamming those emotes! Dang, [Yarr] has it all! FC must be proud…

I like your team comp.

I find it very odd that GvG in this game has ended up as zerg vs. zerg. It’s nice that something at least is evolving in this game, but still seems strange to me.

The insane rate of damage is part of why I prefer wvw combat over spvp.

I spent a decent bit a while ago making dyes. I actually had some good luck and ended up getting a celestial dye. Since then, I mostly just spend it trying to get crit items. Can burn through a lot of glory fast if the rng isn’t on your side.

Steve Whitley.8359:

sadly enough his tale is mostly accurate. the numbers are slightly off on our side we probably had maybe 10-12 but they all had a wild hair to kill siegerazer instead of trying to get into the tower (we wiped the group doing the breakout prior to these guys showing up, that bit was pretty fun). sometimes folks get distracted by the silliest of things… like big champ npcs that they’re not going to kill (and is responsible for 99% of our wipe not these guys though they did annoy us by spiking our remaining rezzers keeping us from moving when it became apparent that that objective was going to be impossible in present company) despite being told repeatedly that they’re not going to kill it and to come build these rams and take this tower :S

I’m pretty sure it was more than that, but admittedly I could have overestimated a bit.

I guess I didn’t convey it clearly enough, but I wasn’t trying to say I was great because we killed you guys. In fact I’ve said the opposite numerous times already. It was just one of those moments of complete bewilderment, where I couldn’t even begin to understand what was going on.

Edit: I’m about to start roaming, so if anyone wants to prove just how bad I am, feel free to come looking. I’ll probably be on AR or FC bl south of the water.

Actually I’m clinging to an 11 month old build. I’m seriously outdated.

Solstice.1097:

So you left your spawn and thought siegerazer there wasn’t yours? lol

I roam from SE – SW and back, with detours when appropriate, and had been on a run for 15+ minutes by the time this happened. But yes, I am terrible at keeping track of where my spawn is. I have given up far too many kills by running past the DR spawn or trying to run into someone else’s.

Well, let me tell you guys a tale of how 4 ungrouped people can beat 20+. I honestly don’t remember which map it was because most of the time I don’t know. However, it was the borderland where DR is in the SW corner.

So I was roaming around as usual, and I roll up to the SWT which was owned by FC and see some siege up and a Siegerazer. With my awesome map awareness, I figure someone is doing a breakout and I should just steer clear. However, upon closer inspection, it was not quite what I thought.

It turned out it was five or so AR building the siege, but the Siegerazer actually belonged to DR but had, for whatever reason, been abandoned and left to stand in front of the tower alone. After seeing this, I, and another DR or two, killed them and started to leave.

As we were leaving, in rolls quite a decent zerg. My first reaction is to run, but they don’t seem to care about us at all. The zerg mostly ignores us and starts trying to build siege and kill Siegerazer. Now, as you might know, Siegerazer is a pretty tough guy. It ends up with about a third of the zerg downed, another third trying to mass rez, and the remaining still trying to kill him.

During this time, we DR were of course keeping ourselves busy. I was rez bombing every time my cds were up, and the others were doing what their classes were best at. A handful of times some of the 80s would try to kill us, but they either died or quickly gave up and went back to rezzing.

Eventually, the damage outpaced their rezzing (especially after they started trying to mass hard rez), and their numbers dwindled, and eventually they were all dead.

During this fight, I had very little pressure on me. I was pretty much left to DPS freely. I said repeatedly that I didn’t do anything impressive in this fight, and that was true. We didn’t win because the four of us happened to be GW2 gods. We won because that commander led zerg tried to facetank Siegerazer while four people bombed them over and over and over.

Antara.3189:

Man you’re just a straight boss. You succeed at life, congratulations man. Tell me more.

One thing I want to learn how to do, is count 100+ of my allies while being spiked. That’s impressive.

I didn’t have to count. They posted screenshots on VN of the killspam and total killed.

Darek.1836:

wanna duel drez? I love killing eles

I prefer just roaming, but we can set something up if you’re on later tonight.

Shanks R Us.2489:

The most unbelievable part of this post……was that you found an AR zerg of 20+. Probably the WAR uplevel karma train.

See you Thursday night

It probably was. And I wouldn’t wait for fight club if you want to fight. Working late for a week or two and it’ll probably be over before I get home.