Guild Wars 2

DKNS.2135:

What server history did you find about me? I was on SoS from start because of SoS being a SEA/Oceanic server back in those days. Went to BG with MERC (been almost 10 months since that happened) when BG was a T2 server having tons of coverage gaps compared to JQ and that’s it. And if you have been reading my forum history, you will find that i claimed once that i like to vacation on TC every few weeks. If you think i go to TC just for WvW glory then i can only laugh at you. Unlike some people, not everyone is a bandwagoner.

P.S. Most of us have jobs to go to and sleep. Not everyone can sit on the forums 24/7 to reply you.

Because it’s pretty stupid calling someone bandwaggoning, when you have a server history like you have.

And you totally were right, I went to JQ before season 1. It was in october 2012. So basically you are right.

Praise Jedsus and his Avatar of War Waha!

Hahahahahahaahahah our “better” EU coverage. This guy.

Maybe your EU is full of fat people, so they cover a lot of space.

Where is that BG dude that asked me if I bandwaggoned to JQ before season 1? I’m a bit disappointed he is not answering any more after I found out that his server jumping history is longer than the history of the United States of America.

DKNS.2135:

gebrechen.5643:

Can you BG go and spam elsewhere. Or transfer over to TC or SoR and maybe we all will get good fights in the near future.

JQ’er asking for even fights is just priceless. Did you just bandwagon there before Season 1 without knowing the history of the server you are on?

Yeah, I transfered over before season 1 and I was always good in history.

But the question is were you on BG at this time?

Demannu.2805:

Andrew Clear.1750:

Where did Iron transfer to?

To the place where they belong – Tier 2 servers

Isn’t that where SFR comes from after they totally stacked guilds for getting 2nd in EU?

Can you BG go and spam elsewhere. Or transfer over to TC or SoR and maybe we all will get good fights in the near future.

There is a German proverb:
Hätte der Hund nicht geschissen, hätte er den Hasen gefangen.
which basically means something similar like:
“If wishes were horses, beggars would ride.”

fact: you failed!

Gold is a real power.

Same problem. Only one guild is available. The others appear to be empty and I’m the only member and the guild has no influence.
I can’t even switch guilds. Ok, I can but I’m still talking in the old one.

Why should anyone do PvE at all? Come on, if you want to do pve go and play wow or something like that.

Baronvonhippo.3157:

JQ got RAWKED! BG is like Godzilla and JQ is Japan.

You remember what happened to Godzilla, Beastman?

I still think it’s funny when BG talks about Iron. You have your own numbers equal to Iron on EU. Not sure why you always try to call it uneven.
Iron was a problem for JQ, because we depend on our NA to help out, but with RK and HB and all those BG going overtime you could easily beat Iron.

And the problem you still don’t get is that Iron is GMT+0/1 while ZDs is GMT4/+5 so, if Iron doesn’t log in 4 hours before there prime they won’t even meet ZDs.
When ZDs logs it’s late night for most Sea and that’s it.

Good times. RK hiding from 20 JQ at north camp and waiting for their zerg to help them out to get three times the number.
So funny. Stop hiding, BG!

The funny part with that is that people from BG know which guilds we try to buy and not even our leaders know most of this rumors.
Last time I heard about transfers were GD and Tohu.
And if buying guilds for a timeslot would be easy we could play EU time against you on equal level.
You don’t want guilds that leave after being mercenary for a season.

I had the same thoughts about that queue problem. I’m not sure how to solve it. But with the actual system the servers will never change much.
The problem starts when many people logging off, that normally doesn’t happen too often, mainly when it’s getting late in a timezone. Eventually a short period of restarting could help that. So everybody is kicked out, scores are frozen. But that would bring up new problems like “server freeze while taking garrison” or such things.
Maybe those queues wouldn’t be needed if the matches for seasons would be on weekends only. Weekends are always queued full.

In the end Anet has to do something or get rid of a season system again.

Demannu.2805:

Wiping ZDs oh oh oh so that is how you call being farmed inside your Lord Room in Garri for 2 hours non stop …. its like IRON said LOL WE FARMZED ZDs IN OUR RESPAWN TOWER 11111

Have you finally taken our garrison after 5 days trying so hard against pugs?

ballymun.3986:

BG were ticking high PPT during NA and Oceanic timezones, so really, not fair to be making excuses and blaming Zds who were playing mostly SeA TZ, against JQ’s formidable SeA forces. Not their fault a certain JQ SeA commander quit again.

As your own NA people said:

It’s easy sitting in a T3 camp with 20 sup ac and waiting for JQ NA to come for you. That was the situation we had in NA time.
Those T3 structures are the work of outnumbering us with ZDs and EU.

So please, come back if you at least understand the basics of wvw and ppt and troll somewhere else.

After that kittening forum software ate my reply. You get the short version.

@Zikory
It was your server that was afraid of losing the league because of the schedule

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/JQ-3-easy-weeks-in-schedule-SOR-1-and-BG-1/first

and initiating a 2v1 vs. JQ. (21 BG replies on page 1 vs. 13 from other servers) The same guys that claim we didn’t show up from monday on.

So basically many of your server were not believing you could win a week against us or played the whine card pretty good. Even if we had come 1st place in week 1 the score between us could have looked like this:
23 : 23
and next week you have the “easy” matchup while we have to play SoR. Week 7 would have been a great kingmaker matchup.

And depending ZDs. As they said they will transfer to your server, you could have easily said “No, we are good enough without you, we don’t need to pay gold, better go elsewehre” as SoR did two times before the leagues as some guilds asked to join them.

That’s the big problem I have with BG. We knew you didn’t show up in the last match before the season. You always declined that. Meanwhile even your commanders state you took “a training week”.
So you could get your propaganda running “JQ is so stacked, you beat us by 100k” with the knowledge all your guilds were mainly in pve farming world stuff.

@Maelwaedd

How will you capitalize against almost equal numbers?
We have a gap in coverage for 6-10 hours (depending how much overtime our Sea can pull) from end of Sea to NA. Many of our Sea played more than 12 hours a day which is pretty crazy just to stop ZDs and your overtime players from turning everything blue. It was clear we can’t pull those hours after the weekend.
And I know your Sea is not that large but you got Ocx which can play into that timezone and you got russians playing into that timezone and they can coordinate with your EU. Our NA are having equal numbers so the whole game is decided when our Sea has to log off.

Ask some of our Sea or EU players what they did the last two days. We were defending garrison against three times the numbers for hours. That’s pretty funny but winning a battle doesn’t mean winning a war.

Yeah, totally. Because no one else pulls crazy overtimes.

- get rid of achievment points for wvw achievments or make them unattractive for pve population
- get rid of world story kitten in wvw. we don’t need toxic npc running around north camp
- deny transfers while the season is going on
- make the matches last 3-4 days instead of a week.
- make queues dynamic. smallest server population decides how many people can get into one bl. that would make anet rich and the server would balance themselves

JaredKincade.9761:

I thought Merc left because they weren’t getting support of BG’s NA?

Now your saying we do overtime? Crazy.

No, the problem is EVERYONE underestimated what BG was capable of, including BG. Go ahead and blame ZDs if it makes you feel better, but we all know deep down they alone don’t make up for the score differences.

I think someone bet on the wrong horse.

Wait.. it was BG betting on the wrong horse. It was mainly BG population claiming JQ had the easy cheesy schedule and your server tried hard to keep that 2v1 with SoR running in match 1.

I would not say you knew ZDs would come to you, but you played that card well.
In week 2 SoR was really good and you came back in ppt, but SoR stopped fighting after ZDs joined you and SoR knew that they wouldn’t stand a chance even if they would pull crazy overtimes.

So, in the end ZDs are the match deciding factor especially against a server with a very low EU population. I’m happy we got some EU guilds and I really like and respect them, but with ZDs backing you there was not a chance of holding the ppt.

The match deciding factor in week 5 was ZDs. Yes, BG fought hard and put in massive overtimes, but we on JQ had really great problems with BG EU before they got ZDs and that transfer made it a mess.
The last three days we were fighting only on JQ bl between 4pm and 1am to hold our garrison against a massive force of ZDs and BG followers and were able to hold it with 20-30 people running around.
Meanwhile the ppt for BG went up to 400+ over all those hours.

It was a great match and it was fun wiping ZDs and kicking them out every day 5-10 times and I would like to that another week but we can’t win a matchup that way

Anyways, thanks for the great fights BG. I’m looking forward to season 2 and hope ZDs is gone than or the other servers get an advantage like this too.

Reslinal.2359:

Standing on the battered west wall of JQ borderland garrison, watching the massing horde of Blackgate’s beasts down below, a tired Jade Empire commander gave a deep sign, “It is this time again”.

The ferocious battle for the mythical golden dolyak between the Jade Empire and the Blackgate has wagered on for eons, but things have began to turn worse for the old empire. Its once proud keeps and towers now lying in ruins, its mighty armies shattered across border lands, and its seemly endless treasury has now depleted, all seems to be lost.

All seems to be lost except one, one unbreachable Garrison stands tall among those ruins. The defending warriors of this keep are grim but determined, and they are proud. They have withstood the endless assaults of the mighty Blackgate beasts since the beginning of the war, they have repelled the unstoppable and feared Legion of ZDs, they were able to hold garrison with all broken walls against Blackgate’s three finest force, GoF, Coin, and RK, and they just annihilated one of the mightest Golem armies in the history of war. All is lost but this one keep, and the defenders of the Jade Empire have decided to not let it fall. This keep is their last hope, their last beacon of resistance, and their last demonstration of Empire’s unyieldable will.

The Jade Empire commander stands firm on the wall, grim but determined. He knows it will not be an easy battle, the beasts of Blackgate hold the power of belief and their will cannot be broken. “Will I be able to beat all odds and live to tell the story of the JQ borderland Garrison?”, he wonders; and I, the historian, also wonder…

Nicely done. I now know who spies on our commanders. That quote I know from our teamspeak! (j/k)

To make it worse I can’t be there tonight to stand side by side with my sisters and brothers of the old great empire and fight off those intruders for another 6-7 hours as we did the last days.

Thanks to Aegis. You are really great with your teamplay and using stealth combos. Loved fighting you.

Sunt.6835:

oh come on … JQ really has no right to complain …

when you bought MERC …. you pvded like every night until season started lmao

As Merc transfered over your server had his timeout week. So you are right you got destroyed, but that had nothing to do with Merc transfering over, but you not showing up – as your own people stated.

You got EE and PLX in exchange for Merc. I think we got the better deal, because Merc and it’s commanders is worth a lot more than EE and PLX, because they haven’t skilled deep into ragequitting and complaining traits.

Finally BG admitted that they don’t show up in a matchup and take a break. I remember many people from JQ stating this in our last matchup before the season and whole BG denied it.
Maybe we should start doing such things too and wait until BG gets bored and guilds leave to other servers.

Gilgamesh.7364:

jojojoon.8607:

Gilgamesh.7364:

Great fights everyone, this is the most even match I’ve seen in a while

Except in EU time zone when pvd happens..

EU timezone wasn’t a problem when JQ took the lead… Now it seems to be the main problem :/

Sure it is. But I know it is hard to look on a world map and watch for timezones.
JQ SEA has 7-8 hours until EU comes online (doable with much dedication on a weekend. I log in on EU (central) prime time at 8pm which is 2-3am for our SEA.
JQ NA starts at 1am for me.
BG SEA has 4-5 hours until ZDs comes online, they are 3-4 hours before EU prime and BG EU has two or three times our numbers.
So yes, it’s a huge problem if you need to stay up until 2am every day and get up at 5 or 6.
There are guys on JQ that pull these numbers but they don’t have to, I’m happy when they do, but we can’t compete with BG at this numbers game. We could if our EU force would have at least equal numbers OR if SoR is keeping your EU busy, what SoS can’t do.
So the problem here is that you have better 24 hour coverage and we have SoS in the matchup.
SoS can’t hold their one bl over the day. They fight very good in the timezones they have people online, but at the rest of the day their bl means points for BG because JQ doesn’t have the forces to get there too without losing a garrison on JQ or hills on BG bl.

Yesterday was a good example for that.
BG attacked JQ bl garrison with huge numbers (ZDs+BG zerg) and BG bl hills was attacked by the map zerg (ND and other guilds)
We were able to hold hills for over an hour against golem rushes, had no supply, because we couldn’t split our 30 man force without losing hills against your 50+ (while you had at least 2 havocs going).
JQ bl kept garrison until our SEA commander had to log off (2am for him) and our commander on BG hills had to leave and took some people with them. JQ bl had no queue at this time.
We lost hills in the end with having 12 people on the new commander and 6 people on siege against your map blob.
So yes, it’s a pure numbers game and we are still lacking numbers in at least one timeslot

meowmooz.9270:

3 out of 4 maps in JQ has no queue right now.
Only map with queue is JQBL with 1 minute queue.
Where did everyone go?

We always have those down times because we have almost no native EU players. The guilds for EU timeslot which transfered over can’t field have the numbers BG had before the season started. Our EU timeslot was always busy trying not to lose all things our SEA had accomplished. So if our SEA logs out in their normal time and NA can’t log on early there are not enough people online.
And maybe some are tired after 4 days of massive overtimes against a server who can easily fill 4 maps in every timeslot.

I wish we could get equal numbers in more than 1 bl.
You tried so hard to take hills with 3 times our number and would still try if our commander and our force had to go to JQ bl and save garrison there.

Darkjoy.3092:

Couple changes and you just described every JQ gold medal and all the forum qq following.
/ironic

You mean no other server has a SEA force? Yeah, Foo has large numbers and great commanders but they play normal SEA time and except for some of the first matches after GW2 started there were guilds like WM which could field ~even numbers and other SEA guilds on SoR, BG, SoS, SBI.
The ZDs timezone is not covered at all, even RG played EU time because many of their players were GMT+2 and not GMT+3-4.

The problem with timezones is that a gap from 1-2 hours decides matches. That’s the main problem on the big three.
Maybe you should lookup the history of your server.

http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/66060-the-fate-of-blackgate/page__hl__blackgate#entry1993750

and of course:

http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/78435-blackgate-server-need-you-naeuoceanic/page__hl__blackgate

So, now remember that this recruitment thread brought you more SEA coverage, while having the best OCX and EU coverage at the given time.

None of the big three should have those gaps, but they always existed. JQ never had huge OCX or EU over a longer period. SoR solved the EU problem by recruiting IRON and could fight your EU, but they lack coverage in at least two other timezones. Meanwhile BG didn’t show up in the last week before the season and called out “that JQ is even more stacked”. That lie worked until week 2, when you totally rolled SoR with your server finally showing up in full force and bringing ZDs to close the last possible hole in your gap.

I’m really looking forward to season 2 and hoping ZDs is joining SoR or SoS or TC and we will see what happens.

Shawker.9587:

kitten

He may not be completely right, but week 1 you used SoR for your 2v1 with that crying about the easy schedule JQ has and “everything is already decided, grats JQ #1” and after that you received a strong and large guild in a timezone where none of your contenders bring up an opposing force.
By watching the ppt/stomp on timezone it’s really clear the match will be decided in the weakest timezones and thats when SEA logs off and EU isn’t online.
ZDs is hard to fight outnumbered.

Not sure what’s wrong but my Corrupt Boon still gets blocked a lot of the time in wvw.

I still like the warhammer medium armor class on order side. They had a stealth too but had to use it with caution and the class wasn’t completely build around that stealth.

Happened to me today two times. Without a stability or blind. Not sure, maybe it’s a lag issue.

Maul.3284:

Treasure Finder – Worst Thief NA. 22222. Surprised EP let that type of garbage into their guild.

#truestory

Good. Use your aggressive feelings, boy. Let the hate flow through you

I’m stuck at 23/24 too, while my girlfriend is at 24/24. We did the obelisks together the last two days. Not sure if I want to do all those ways again.

Thanks to the Ele who was fighting me in the ruins 1v1 on TC bl. I really need some training on my ranger.
Good fight, sir!

It brings back the fun in wvw, because you can’t wipe us when we wear pvt.

Stupid question, stupid answer.

It’s 7pm in central EU so, you need to wait at least two hours before UK prime starts.
We, as havoc guild, normally don’t start before 9m because of work/uni and stuff.
I wouldn’t expect Iron showing up in force in about an hour, more two or three hours.

Sunt.6835:

ah ppl need to ignore KeeZee as well. He trolled since week 1 …. he wont be happy until his jq wins…

Look up his posting history. Kezzee isn’t native JQ player, maybe SoS or got paid by Maguuma for pvf.

Obsessed? I just don’t like big mouthed people and your server is #1 NA in that category.

You mean you failed to stay classy, BG?
That’s even more sad than your chest thumping. I really hope SoR is back in track soon.

Edit: a bit too slow with that post

Andrew Clear.1750:

It would have been much better with unknown matchups. The league we play isn’t comparable with a league in sports. In a sports league everyone plays each team at least one time and there is no third team involved which can take influence in the score.
I prefer a cup system with drawing the matchups would have been much fairer. Maybe even with a best of 3 or best of 5 final round or a final matchup which decides the winner.
Like in football world cup or olympic tournament.

The map saves the day.

Butter.3024:

When is NA prime time EU prime time and SEA prime time

Depending on which timezone you are.

For me (EU gmt+1) it’s
OCX around 8am -2pm
Sea around 12am – 6pm
NA around 1am-6am

Not sure if it’s 100% correct but that is based on guild members joining and leaving

Tortitudo Probo.2598:

Looking at the ppt during EU times, it’s not as if JQ is suffering terribly. Maybe they just need to organize or create a guild for the people online during that timezone? (Although some reinforcements can’t hurt).

There are two guilds for EU players without guilds, but the general numbers of EU players on JQ are low. Make it 15-20 which are in different guilds (Lgcy, SF, AoS, Noah, HzH) and our new guys which transfered here for leagues which should be 15-20 players. The rest of the presence in EU time are still late Sea/Ocx and NA getting on very early.
It was hard enough to stop BG and SoR without any “new” EU guilds and it will be harder if we meet next, but if that means no queues and tons of bags, i’m ok with that.

Titan.3472:

This is the official BG flag ^^ Have a good week…

I’m sure you remember JQ than. I’m really looking forward to match week 5.

And how was your time hiding from the forum, titan?

Don’t know which part of russia ZDs are coming from, but I’m central EU and England is one hour after me, while western Russia starts 1-2 hours before me. Moscow is 3 hours before EU prime and after that there are 8 other timezones which are equal to our SEA force.
If I remember correct Russia has 10 timezones from west to east.

No, that’s Iron gameplay. They don’t show up if they have to fight hard. As RG was on JQ Iron only showed up when RG wasn’t around.
SoR should have enough EU to fight BGs EU, but not enough to outnumber them.