Guild Wars 2

Can we delete thieves instead?

There is an expansion coming?

A roaming group on Maguuma is called a blob in tier 2 and a map zerg in tier 3.

Tournaments were the most stupid thing in wvw. Maybe as stupid as shield generators, tactivators and desert bl.

Cry me a river, beastgate.

kdr never meant anything. I remember running with TW and pugs on a reset on EBG while they were on JQ. We killed three groups from others servers mostly below our numbers and the kdr was 18.0 or something.
The whole KDR thing is heavily based on numbers of your group and how often you can run over teams with smaller numbers by avoiding to die. An organized group has less casualties than a pug group, Mag has less pugs so less people that die running idiot pve builds, etc.

It’s not an achievement to wipe a pug group but it is what is getting you a good kdr.

It’s not apparent? It’s at the start of the video.

Lordrosicky.5813:

Valik Shin.9027:

So u want to see shoutbow warrior rule the world again?

At least you can play a variety of builds. ATM there is 1 build per class so they could balance for their failed esports. Well it failed now so lets get the amulets back

What? As a warrior you have at least three top builds, as a Mesmer you have at least two, as a guardian there are two builds, same goes for necro (may be even three). Haven’t tried ranger this season. But.. that’s more than one build per class.

A lot of bad people play thieves, because they are easy to play and almost forgiving every idiot move you make – in wvw.
The same people come into pvp missing the runes, the food and armor stats from wvw and fail because of that.

Never play on a laptop. It’s ok for a “gaming emergency”, but never if you really want to play games on a regular basis.

We all know that thief class is only playable because thief players are the ones with incredible skill and not because the class has best mobility, high burst, best evades and almost permanent access to stealth.

This season is so terrible.
I don’t even play much, because I get the absolute worst players every time I try to queue.
My team lost midfight 4v3 last match, the opposing team had two bases.
My 4 team mates all went afk “If we lose midfight, we can’t win this game”.
The match before I had two people disconnecting at start, coming back in the last 5 minutes of the game.
My third match of the day I won with 500:20something because the other team had two disconnects – both were in 2 man queue but not in the same group.. So without those disconnects it would have been most likely a loss because we had 5 single players.

Warrior in general could need a nerf. It’s overpowered in pvp, how can it be “fine” in a game mode where you can stack even more stats.

Exedore.6320:

You mean a matchmaking system? Like the one that exists in ranked?

The one that exists never functioned.

Warrior counters mostly anything at the moment. Trap guardian is no different.

Fun will begin with relinking. Good luck to all that transfered to links. Can’t stop laughing.

This is pretty much it. Playing thief has almost no risk of getting killed. You always can pull one of your escape tools.
If your target doesn’t die first try, feel free to try again, he will mostly have used some of his cooldowns and he can’t outrun you.

BlaqueFyre.5678:

Evan Lesh.3295:

It’s almost like DH has a low skill floor or something.

Fun thing is that there is 10 times more thieves than DH in wvw and everyone knows why.

Balancing feels even worse this season. Matchmaking has to be worse by the lower number of players participating after the changes to ascended.
And not a single meaningful pvp patch before season started.

Way to destroy your pvp, Anet. Good job.

Thief was always top dog in wvw and since HoT they have 3-4 top builds one more stupid than the others.

Problem is that most of those thief players still think it’s skill why the win.

The guys tapping the keeps mostly run builds with healing gear and adventurer runes. They’ll never kill a guard.

This game needs a big rework on so many levels. Especially thieves.

Still laughing at people transfering.

Forum bug … rekt

Boysenberry.1869:

The Perma-Tapping-Thief is no threat to players since most of them run away at the sight of even a rank 1 newbie.

It isn’t important if he is a threat. It’s kind of playstyle the game should never support. Why should some be allowed to play a build that only exists to headbutt a gate and run and repeat that for hours?

It’s not at all an exploit, it’s just a really stupid mechanic. There shouldn’t be a way a single person can “deactivate” a waypoint.
It has been like this for a very long time and it was stupid all the time.

So, as far as I see it has gotten more expensive and time consuming to get the ascended gear from pvp than to get them in pve?

What they did to this map is a shame. It’s complete bs now.

Nah, it just means you are even more depending on luck.
Most people still claim it was easy “to apply” which is correct if you talk about siege or keep lords. In any other case it wasn’t.
How many successful groups were out there that could destroy groups on the same skill level with epi?
I don’t know many.

To be successful with epi it always was important to find the right target, to position yourself correct (relatively to the target), to wait for the condition cleanse and to coordinate with your team before you epi (one epi going off does nothing).
While at this you still have to watch your targets health so it doesn’t go down while you cast and there is still latency involved what is especially on NA a big problem for a majority of players.
While as a potential epi target you have to care about cleansing and notice how many conditions are on you.

With the change it’s even more luck based because it won’t work when someone receives resistance in your cast time.
And due to the availability of resistance and the great numbers of revs it’s even more easier to avoid.

Can we get this kitten nerfed finally? There should be no skill that can be used from stealth that keeps you in stealth and additionally gives you a almost full stack of conditions.

We have seen you can nerf skills for wvw – no finally rework your stealth mechanic in wvw.

He is a terrible thief player.

Devs caved in to people crying on forums and killed wvw a bit more. All hail full frontline meta.

Hope they fix thieves the same way soon.

I only play necro. Always did. That’s why I ask you if you are serious.

On my normal wvw condi build there are three.

ArchonWing.9480:

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Boon#Skills_that_remove_boons
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Boon#Skills_that_transform_boons_into_conditions
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Boon#Traits_that_remove_boons
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Boon#Traits_that_convert_boons_into_conditions

Oh, and most of them are on necros.

And how many of them are on the same builds or weapon sets?
And how many boons are corrupted vs boons are granted?

Are you really serious about your argument?

And now you got a god mode with your rev against conditions?

Stealth should end every time you receive or deal damage.

Jski.6180:

By your own tag you will as a player will just have to get better. Because killing ppl to epi is not a skill base thing before now it is. Its not that much more just simply wait for resistances not to be on some ones bar and the boon strip that necors get they have a lot of build in counter play.

There was no STEALTH nerf just a hidden nerf to epi btw. I know its very confusion.

It’s a stupid change. Why? You make the game more difficult for one class while you make it alot easier for the whole melee train. No more good positioning, just keeping resistance going. Most necros will have to switch to power now, because it isn’t harder and you don’t depend on hitting epi – which wasn’t easy when considering movement, latenty and damage.
Yes, epi off siege equipment was easy, but how is that a problem? Don’t hug siege and you are fine.

Enough crying on forums and the dev team caves in.

Way to go, Anet. Can we hope you delete thieves now when enough people open threads about them?

Stupid idea to put in achievements after 4,5 years. It won’t bring pvp back from the dead.

Forum needs to go. This is 2017, fix it already

The Game Slayer.7632:

Stealth is fine when you are forced to reveal yourself to actually kill your opponent. This ghost thief build is 100% stealth and can still kill you. That’s absurdly broken.

Nah, sorry, your whole class is broken in wvw and not since HoT. Thieves were always broken because of their access to stealth paired with ridiculous mobility and high damage.
And it has nothing to do with HoT stats – HoT stats just made it worse.

The Game Slayer.7632:

Besides, there have been multiple threads with reasonable nerfs to epidemic that would make it more balanced. Such nerfs sound like this: making it blockable, reducing radius, increasing cooldown, adding a condition cap.

Reasonable, because people can’t deal with it?
Blockable = makes epidemic completely useless because of the stupid amount of classes that have passive blocks
Reducing the radius is stupid until you lower the radius of boon share at the same percentage. If you take away the radius from epidemic it will be useless because rev+guard have great boonshare, light fields and heals.
Increasing cooldown – look above.
Adding a condition cap. Ok, I can live with that IF we get a damage cap too. If conditions are capped again, there should be a cap on crit/ferocity or we end up in the stupid melee power stun meta – been there, done that.

And to be honest. I think it’s pretty funny that a guy who plays thief wants skills nerfed! Let’s talk about your class for a second.
Can we talk about dodge and block on daredevil, ghost thief, d/p and instagibs from your class before we touch necros? Just an idea.

Straegen.2938:

gebrechen.5643:

Epi isn’t a problem, deal with it.

Sure… not a problem… yeah…

Getting hit for 15k by a thief is a problem. You still can cleanse those condis, you can share resistance, you can spread out but you can’t avoid that initial damage from thieves..

You can avoid epi bombs by staying away from siege or lords that have condis stacked and you can stay away from people in downstate (which most likely die before you can epi off them)

And why should epidemic gets a nerf, when most of the condis don’t even come from necros? Let’s talk about condi application in general?

ZombieSlayeR.8702:

Maybe his build carried him … oh no sry condi nec is balanced right
They must’ve been kitten ofc

It’s a l2p issue or bring a class that counters condi necro next time.

The problem with necromancers these days is that you have to take them serious as opponents. That wasn’t the case for how long now?
Necromancer was in a bad state in spvp for three to four seasons and was viable with a good team supporting you. Almost no one roamed on a necro, because you had almost automatically loss against mesmer, thief, warrior, ranger and dh. Now necros are good against at least three of them and especially in team fights.

Meanwhile guardians, thieves and many other classes were buffed too – but that’s ok, because the majority of these classes were already played before and no one cries after his class gets a buff.

We sure can talk about reverting the deathly chill change, but in the same second we have to talk about stealth nerfs (finally) and why guardians are the most important class in wvw and how we change that so other classes are on a equal level.

Menyus.4610:

This post is not about necro hate, also fun fact: when i wrote this post my reaper roaming partner killed 2 drds and 1 dh with viper set while defending my inactive character, enemies were from kodash and avg skill level.

They are not close to average skill level when he 1v3 them.

I prefered they finally nerfed stealth for all classes or give every class a useful counter against it.
Ghost thief is just the latest monster Anet has created. Mesmer and thief were ridiculous overpowered with their stealth builds before – and we talk about 5 years here.

Stealth makes people think that “you won a fight” when your opponent has to reset while for the rest of the classes “winning” means you downed your opponent.

Necro gets a buff and the forum drowns in tears.

White Kingdom.6380:

How was your 6 months on Jade Quarry TW? Oh wait thats right there is no server loyalty and left after 2 months. kitten that is one sweet deal right??

Rumour is that Sladi transfered TW off because he is still salty because JQ and TC double teamed BG in season 2. And now he led the wolves to their retirement home where they slowly perish.

But the wolves with rise again. Tarnished wolves – a WoW raiding guild!

Everything is better than tier 1, even EotM

So, how is tier 4 going?