Guild Wars 2

That’d involve ANet admitting they got pretty much everything wrong that launched with HoT. Smart thing would be to own up, revert as you say, and start again, making what was great about WvW even better. Maybe they just got lucky in 2012 when they created a fantastic game mode, or maybe they lost sight of what players want from it. One thing is for sure though, they will not reboot pre HoT WvW. They’d have done it by now if it was ever an option.

Pong? I give it 10 minutes. And that includes finding and downloading an Emu copy. And combat in ArcheAge is stilted in comparison to GW2. My only major gripe with ANet is what they did to WvW, my favoured game mode, and I have zero faith in them fixing that. Ever.

Cecilia.5179:

Population Balance = Small severs get mashed together and renamed

If not Megaservers then 1 medium-pop server eating 1 or 2 low-pop servers who’se proud names will forever disappear from GW2.

Be wierd otherwise, merging with the very servers you’ve been scrapping with for years. Or maybe people would prefer that. Not like ANet’d ask first though.

Trajan.4953:

We who play the game will simply overcome them like we do every dumb thing that gets thrown at us like siege disablers, stealth removal traps etc.

But the map sucks too. And many other aspects of the game have changed. A wee bit of PvE BS can be worked around sure, but kitten they changed the kitten game mode on us. Not for the first time but, yet again, for the worse. It’s way to much for me to swallow all in one go but if you can handle it, good luck & have fun

WvW is in a bad way for sure but you don’t need HoT to play it. So, hold off buying HoT untill they either fix or kill WvW and make your decision then. I regret buying HoT. I don’t think it’s expansive enough to warrant a £30 price tag. £10 less, then possibly.

Too many threads on this forum wind up this way; TLDR slanging matches often involving the same people. Any worthwhile points/suggestions/gripes get lost in the bull.

Anyway, I think ANet wants Megaservers. Whether they deliberately trashed the game mode in order to make that inevitable is up for debate. A speedy reset of WvW within 2 weeks of HoT launching might have prevented it though. Most of those who play for server pride above all have quit. Not gonna be much of a fuss made now.

Wizigard.4760:

gitflap.9031:

Loads of people have given their reasons for and against both maps. The Devs have their own ideas about WvW, and they’re going to implement them no matter what any of us think. Time to leave the topic.

If there is an issue, better, if it is an issue of such magnitute, one should complain about it, criticize and question. You are the customer and you are perfectly right to criticize. Now I think that wvw problem goes beiond new borderlands as they are only part of said problem. However If I had to choose I’d more likely revert to alpine maps, or implement rotation + modify new maps.

Agree m8y. But it’s been done to death. They’re not interested. Bottom line, it’s ANet’s game, not ours.

Loads of people have given their reasons for and against both maps. The Devs have their own ideas about WvW, and they’re going to implement them no matter what any of us think. Time to leave the topic.

So many posts in this subforum on this topic sinc HoT launched. People aren’t playing for different reasons, but generaly it comes down to what they used to do for fun is either not much fun anymore on the new map, or redundant due to the game changes in general. Or both….mostly both.

You break something, roll back to it’s last good state, pre HoT in this case, and try again. Or break it some more so it becomes unrecognisable but hope that people who loved it before will learn to love it again in it’s new, sad, disfigured and neutered state. Fat kittening chance!

Even on the old map, Siegerazer could take a tower for you, ‘long as you knocked the door down first. What would be perfect is the Golem event where Omega Golems were autonomous and able to construct more Omega Golems ad infanitum until dystopian perfection is, at last, achieved. Then I could watch Hollyoaks knowing that I’d made no difference whatsoever….sweet..

The waypoint in what used to be Garrison is on a platform that seems to serve no useful purpose. There are no stairs leading from this platform to the area below. The fact that this is a game is immediately obvious. This isn’t a place where Humans, Charr, Sylvari etc go about their buisness. It’s a made-up environment that is impossible to get lost in, except in the most literal of ways. Add to the ’ain’t we clever’ map design, the auto upgrades and the lack of waypoints in what were Hills and Bay, and you kill all the immersion; and therefore the urgency to upgrade, siege up and defend; and therefore the personal pride in a borderland that’s all YOUR colour; and therefore server pride; and therefore the need for servers; and therefore…we get EotM 2. And no, this is not constructive criticism. You took something ailing but essentialy great round the back of the barn, and put a bullet in it’s head. WTF were you thinking ANet?

I can just Imagine ANet’s WvW guru scribbling this stuff down. Next year’s upgrades sorted. Maui Time!

Most of what I used to do, and have fun with in WvW is irrelevant now. I could completely change how I play, but I didn’t do that in 3+ years coz other playstyles bore me. So I’m done. Had some great times tho.

The old map worked because it was straightforward, compact and ungimmiky. The new map is complicated, sprawling and full of needless EoTM style gimmiks. Maybe if the whole centre section was completely removed, it might work. I dunno. Some kittening stairs in useful places might help too. Diru did a good job of expressing pretty much what I, and it seems many others, feel about the changes to WvW as a whole.

I’ll come back in a few weeks to check it out but one thing’s for sure, my scouting days are over. Just way too much ground to cover and way too many obsticles to covering it.

Was getting 2k ping 11am gmt today…yeh this is Saturday, but I had same problem same time on Thursday. Don’t think it’s traffic based. Right now, 20.00 GMT, in WvW, my ping averages over 1,000.

This is the 3rd or maybe 4th period over the last 3 months where my ping is spiking. Anything up to 5k at times. Normal ping around 80. Dunno why it affects some and not others. Ofc the game is unplayable. Other times lasted 1-3 weeks. Connecting from the UK

This just isn’t fixable, Let it go. If it bothers you too much, do something else.

I don’t think it’s retrying at all. Just waiting for me to give up and go do something else.

Ok. Going to do something else then.

Same as Tornix above, been getting massive spikes anything up to 4.5k ping for weeks now. And sometimes it’s fine. I’m not the only one. Seems to affect players from all over the world too. ANet certainly know about it by now thru support tickets and many forum posts. I’m in the UK. Normaly my ping averages around 100.

Yeh…that’s just poor UI design. I noticed that when trying to redeem my HoT code. You need to handhold people thru these things ANet. I realy don’t want to have to guess what I’m meant to do next.

Look at the top thread in this section. There are other threads about this issue all over the place. It’s been gong on for some people for weeks. Doesn’t seem to be about where you live. NA, EU, OC…some people getting awful ping, sometimes,others totaly unaffected. Because there’s no obvious common denomenator, GW2 excepted, it’s gonna be a pig to solve.

Doesn’t seem to matter where you live. I’m in the UK and I’m getting all of the same symptoms. NA servers have problems too. I dunno if anyone has found a common denominator…apart from GW2 ofc.

The main culprit for me seems to be BT [109.159.250.5] (there’s a shock) at Ealing, London.

In game ping peaked at 3.34k. Horrible.

I was living the dream at 3.34k…..relogged and getting 4.58k.

Any server bar Gandara…unless you GvG on an enemy bl. In which case, knock yourself out. Speaking of which…GvG should always occur on an enemy bl. It should be a rule. Guild 1 from server A fights guld 2 from server B at the windmill on server C’s home border. Make it so!

What do u mean for casual player? Some of them are near enough kittening impossible for bots to beat.

I play GW2 for WvW. Been playing nearly 3 years now. ANet’s efforts to improve on this part of GW2 in 3 years have been mostly lamentable. It’s still stupidly popular, and I still love it…tho I sure do hate it sometimes. Give me the name of a viable alternative. Is it free to play? Is it pay to win?

A whole lot rests on HoT. If ANet gets it wrong, it will be the beginning of the end for GW2. If the new borderlands encourage EB style play, it’ll probably break the game for me. But if they get it right. Even a bit right. Coz they got it mostly wrong up till now as far as WvW goes. It might well give this particular part of the game just the shot in the arm it sorely needs to keep us all playing.

ANet…don’t kitten it up! Us WvW types are a dedicated bunch, but we still have finite patience. No more encouragement needed to blob and attack. Concentrate your efforts on making defending more profitable and pleasureable and you’ll get 3 more years out of me.

We’ve never been the best at defending…dolly escorts, sieging, scouting…all the unrewarding but necessary stuff that keeps home borderland and, to a lesser extent, EB scores ticking over. The golem week seems to have diluted our patchy defensive instincts even further. Seems to be guilds on our home border who’re only there for teh fights, harking back to the dark days of early 2014 when we dropped to last place in Silver league and got pumped by the likes of Fort Ranik.

We don’t have enough pug commanders therefore there is too much of a burden placed on those brave souls who do step up. And being a good guild comm does not always translate to being a good pug comm.

We never really got borderhopping. Proper borderhopping is invaluable when things get tough.

It feels like we’re tanking too, which, if true, would be very sad.

Having said that, I can barely bring myself to log in these days. I’ve done the whole kittening thing where it’s you at inner garri agaist 40 while everyone else is fighting in the open field right outside. And I’ve done, to death, the kittening thing where you siege up the north, get the upgrades, do the escorts, and no kitten comes to defend when it gets attacked. Not to mention the thing where you ask EB for help and get indifference or even abuse. But see when we try, even if there’s 8 omegas and 60 enemies, fail or prevail, to defend our garrison…these are the times that stick with me the most and make me want to come back again. Running around EB in a zerg can be fun for a while, but keeping rapacious kittens from getting their filthy paws on your Border is where WvW really shines. And this is the part ANet totaly neglected, nerfed and diluted with virtualy every new build. And kitten me…when it works, it’s still so much kitten fun. I just don’t have the patience these days to hang around IN CASE it’s fun.

Course, we might just be having a bad week. Look at SFR for kittensake. If so, I take it all back. Probably.

http://www.vabbiforums.com/

http://rof-community.com/

http://roscommunity.enjin.com/

HappilyInsane.5840:

Alright that sounds great! Thanks for the help. Are any guilds in those servers that I could join? Like, I don’t wanna turn up and be a huge loner, y’know?

OFC there are guilds on those servers. I Imagine they all have homepages. Check those out. See if you can talk to peeps who play on them. Mostly tho, you’ll just be picking blind and it probably won’t make any negative difference to your gameplay experience. Choose the one with the coolest name

aspirine.6852:

You want to go to either Gunnars Hold or Aurora Glade. Below that the servers become a ghost town.

Not at the OP’s preferred playtime, and with his/her preferred playstyle. The three I quoted are very viable during those hours.

They did already. So, you’re EU primetime and a bit. Right now, for 500 gems, I’d say you want Vabbi, RoF, or RoS. That’s if you want to transfer immediately, and you want an English speaking server. Pay 1k gems, and your options improve, but in reality only if you don’t care about the primary language of the server you are joining. Just checked, Aurora Glade is now the only server rated High, costing 1k gems as I said. GH and Piken will cost you 1800 gems. Gandara, FSP, Deso and SFR are all full. So, back to the beginning…atm Vabbi, RoF, RoS for 500

Might help a lot if you specify the hours you want to play.

I mean servers rated as Full using the new algorithm. The idea is that lower tier servers will gradualy get more full as new players and transfers are locked out of most high tier servers. The hope is that eventualy players will be more spread out between all servers. Winner joiners, who skewed things towards top tier servers, can’t join em any more.

I think Vabbi, RoF and RoS are currently 500gems, AG is 1k. Like I said, GH I’m not sure about.

Well, luckily you’re locked out of the top few tiers. Roaming and small-scale stuff is harder to come by there anyway. Tho maybe in your timezone it would be better. I assume you want an English speaking server? I’m not sure if Gunnar’s is full or just High pop, but I’d say any server from GH down to RoS, checking first if they have players on at the times you want to play. No disrespect to servers lower down, but it’s less likely the op will get any fun there atm. Personaly, I’d wait a couple of months to see how the new server capping system effects the lower tier before committing. Unless gems is no barrier.

So the opinion seems to be, now that we’ve dispelled the Mexican myth, that Spanish people play at the wrong time? Those inconsiderate kittens! What they need to do pronto, is change their whole culture to suit a few whiny GW2 players. kitten stop moaning about how other servers play and get on with it. Unless you’re Gandara or BB, you’re all a bunch of PPT, PvD kittens anyway.

Op is either trolling or he’s an idiot. BB is at least 95% Spanish any time I play. Only time I can’t corroborate that is 3.30 – 6.30 gmt. People are always mumping about BB nightcapping “Mexicans”. Never seen them. Honestly, this post should be locked. More bullkitten ignorance

I think you knew the answer before you asked the question. Go play something else. You clearly want to.

Worse, if anything.

No

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I can confirm that Gandara’s not the blobbiest of servers but, like GH it seems, we’re not the best when it comes to defending/sieging/refreshing/scouting. It’s usualy the same 5% -10% who do that stuff. Just that we have better overall coverage than we did 18 months ago.

My second account’s on Baruch Bay. There is far more emphasis on defending the home border on BB, even if it means sacrificing EB, which almost never happens on Gandara.

Both servers have a good crowd of regulars who make home border a priority. I don’t speak much Spanish, even after 16 months, but the chicos & chicas on BB have been exceptionally friendly.

Both have to deal with blobs of course, and servers with better coverage. If you like defending, I can reccomend either. There’s usually plenty to be done.

Actually, it seems from what you’re saying, that GH is something like where Gandara was at the start of 2014 when I created my BB account. “All about teh fights.” Still get that kitten from time to time, tho it’s so much better now.

Gotta agree with pretty much everything said here. P/P is dead. RIP/P.

I play my dual pistol thief as a scout in WvW. I can go hours without a kill. Kiting a zerg with Richochet and Dagger Storm was pretty much the only way I got lootbags. P/P seems pointless now…in fact, combat feels pointless. Worse still is that I seem to have fewer defences than ever. Normaly I can get away from a lost battle but not any more. I honestly don’t know if I can be kitten d with WvW now. It’s all very well talking about adapting, but when a good chunk of what you’ve relied on for 2 years goes kittens up, it makes you wonder if it’s worth the bother.

If u put runes or sigils on Karma/WvW gear you should be able, with a Black Lion kit, to retreive them…destroying the gear in the process and getting no other benefit. Upgrade Extractors are a joke in the current gem market…which is a joke in itself. What the heck are you all buying? I’ve got Traveler runes on Karma gear from when they were MF runes, so I’m not really hurting, but I still think the current system blows.

Ben K.6238:

gitflap.9031:

In EU there’s a significant random element to deciding the matchups. Keeps it interesting. If enough NA players lobby for similar I expect you’ll get it.

http://mos.millenium.org/matchups

The same element is present in NA matches. It just doesn’t work because NA servers are more stacked – no language separation.

Quick and dirty bar graph attached to show the problem.

Ouch!

In EU there’s a significant random element to deciding the matchups. Keeps it interesting. If enough NA players lobby for similar I expect you’ll get it.

http://mos.millenium.org/matchups

lordkrall.7241:

gitflap.9031:

28th August. 3 years from official launch and it’s a Friday. No more predictions needed I think.

Extremely unlikely that they would launch something that big on a Friday.
There is a reason most releases are at the beginning of a week.

Friday is the favourite launch day of devs and retailers. People buy the game to play at the weekend. And with a birthday booster active, you can L80 your revenant before you go back to work on the Monday. I bet that this is when they’ll have planned to release the expansion. They may not make the date though. But it’ll be a Friday :p

IndigoSundown.5419:

/Prediction hat on

HoT will launch on the 25th of August, 3 years from the beginning of headstart.

/Prediction hat off

28th August. 3 years from official launch and it’s a Friday. No more predictions needed I think.

Why won’t items of the same type stack? And why are some ‘account bound on acquire’ anyway? I acquired them already.