Guild Wars 2

GuM So good to see you.

See you on battlefield.

I had not been online since Monday but french forum says SE transferred to FR.

Soon. Can’t wait.

• I don’t remember Caithe saying something like “My Wyld Hunt is completed”, she just follows her mate in the standard “Zhaitan is dead I’m happy”. The sylvari PC does not show this either (based on wiki dialogues didn’t finish the PS with a sylvari yet)
• Yeah my bad
• That’s a point. Maybe I can reply that the Pale Tree is a living organism that learn from older when it grew up and Ventari take the Mordy’s role but it seems not enough.
• Judy’s Monster don’t know what/who is it? Asura storyline shows that dragon are magic sponge that use minions like a antenna, I think that Inquest manage to break the link between the ED and the minion by stopping the magic flux. When a minion is linked to its ED, the ED will absorb magic around the minion (even other ED magic → corruption immunity) but once the link broken, the minion is like everybody else prone to receive corrupted energies and thus allowing Inquest to create multiple corrupted monster. The point is that sylvari are like ED minions but linked to the pale tree (the top of the “food web”), pale tree does not need magic as ED but the link still interfere with corruption allowing them to be immune (we still have to see a Soundless or Malyck resisting to corruption to discredit this theory). It’s normal corruption kill someone, even sylvari, the flow of draconic energy is too intense to survive, sylvari indeed die from corruption but that’s because others races, sensible to draconic influence, will get shielded from dying (except Zhaitan ones) because the ED won’t them to die then serve (more costly in power in long term) but to corrupt theirs mind and body to make them servile to death (more rentable in term of magic cost).
• Maybe not a organic but something like a hive. The dream is not sentient but it has (to follow you in the computer metaphor) anti-virus and defensive programs to defend itself. The Wyld Hunt is an internal routine inside sylvari minds that curve their lives into being Dream protector against Mordy & others threats. Mordy is like a hacker (even if he was the Dream creator) that use the Nightmare Court as a computer worn/Trojan horse to take control over the Dream (while sleeping imho).

aZm stuff :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TxSW2jsZnGg

My 2 cents,

• Trahearne fell an intense (Trahearne-style) relief after completing his Wyld Hunt unlike Caithe and the PC which leads me to think that the PC and Caithe’s Wyld Hunt is to kill Mordy, the Zaithan thing is a misinterpretation from the Pale Tree.

• Bubbles awoke far before other ED, remember Acolyte Jin : “When Jin was a young girl growing up on the coast of Cantha, her family was slain by monstrous creatures in the dead of night” from GW1 : hint that Kraits (because murder/kidnapping on coast is krait-typical) fled from BSD at GW1 time.

• Mordy seems to like “the right of strength”, i think that the cave where the seed of Pale tree was found is an arena where the seeds would have to grown in competition with each other and only the stronger will be chosen by Mordy to be its champion or his new kind of minions (like a hive creating low-end minions aka sylvari). Roran disrupts it by slaying the guardians, removing Mordy’s influence and thus ruining its plan. Malyck (sylvari not from Pale Tree) is just a temporary renew from one seed, like a flower having a last blossom before dying, his tree was nearly dead that’s why he did not have a Dream-mental structure-like. The way Nightmare Court raise hounds is like Mordy raise its minions. This is a whole “food web” : ED -> tree -> sylvari -> hounds.

• Sylvari being created by a ED is a valid reason for them being insensible to corruption. The Dream mental web is kind of the Risen one but the lack of leader (aka ED) allows sylvari to be free. The real corrupted sylvari are the good ones, the nightmare are in fact the “full corrupted” minion, the “partially corrupted” are husks and others “former” Mordy minions.

• Nightmare Court come from the Nightmare which is a way for Mordy to claim is leadership over sylvari. But the Dream, which I believe to be/act like an non-physical organic creature, resists by creating Wyld Hunt to stay alive (biased Dark Hunt that are orders from Master Mordy) : very similar to regulation/immunity system.

My build :

http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-s;4NKVP0_4kL-60;9;4TJ99-26A48-0;00;3L3mB;2qObSqObSb-FxNLm5;3wV1X6Y9ZH4Ma6o-G-2iV8;9;9;9;9;9;9VTk3Z

Goal : Mobility, Nearly perma cripple-immobilization and fury, Control on hammer, good tankiness with zerk trinkets

Good for both roam and zerg but kinda average.

Awesome matchup.

I’m eager to begin leagues, we (at least me) will fight to death. It will be very intense, too bad studies take me this amount of time.

I’m waiting mostly to see AG , Gandara and GH (why Banner Hold ? i preferred Golem Hold ) in action, good reputation on forum seems to have good roamers and obviously UW (stay in silver league please don’t care about drama and have playing ) and their almighty GuM, love you guys. Desolation seems falling like Arborstone in old days and I have unpleasant memories about old FSP but all of this seems promising.

We will (at least try to) rain fire upon yours keeps, wreck havoc among your zerg, kill thousands of your helpless dollies, gank every lonely player, deny you supply to death, build so many ACs that AM will be jealous/proud, camp the ruins all day long and last but not least have fun

FR is aiming at high~mid ranking (we are ambitious) , we have a great pve population that we hope will help wvw community during the league. We will actually suffer from reinforcements on others servers since we got little to no transfers and may lack of nightcrew (curse of national server) but it won’t hamper our will of battle, destruction, sportsmanship, and resilience.

I used to be the only FR player on official forum but since my fellow mates are now helping me (they usually lurk on french forums), consider FR winner of the First Great Forum Flame War.

Stop about Canadian, there are non existant in our server, very few on vizunah. More if you (= international server) cry about a dozen Canadian please recruit more Russian/USA guilds (guilds that nearly never transfer to national server) , i heard that 40+ transfering from US ladder into EU ladder is healthy.

Btw, there is the “Golem Thunder” event (http://forums.jeuxonline.info/showthread.php?t=1234929 ) on vizunah to wake up people (mostly pve pop) before leagues, that’s why they hit this hard.

I found in random MU more fun than in Tier MU, even if we got crap matchups we also encountered servers like Gandara or Barush i loved.

Nerf quaggans they are cuter than kraits , oh wait !

Nice idea.
Keep should have 10 defenders maximum, else the supply income is too high to allow people to deny supply.
Boons are overpowered, i suggest only swiftness and immunity to fall damage (to prevent stupid dying and need to wp → fail mission). I don’t mind mf.
Waypoint should stay contested but i think that the defender should be able to “fix” it with a cost of 10 supply for 20/30s.
Signal fire should only be available if structure is contested to prevent griefing.

RMK (about 15 people) transferred from SFR during this matchup (they ran on EB last night), no other transfers afaik.

We have a lower coverage in tough matchups, you are enduring “hordes” of pveboyz/opportunist people sorry
We still have enough coverage to hold some higher tiers servers but many not GH&others that recruited many usa/russian guilds that aren’t attracted by national servers.

RDT PoV : http://gw2.redemptions.fr/img/tag.jpg

Message from RDT leader (translated by me) : “We were not really waiting MtC but them (NfT : TaG) and they were not coming thus we stayed to distracting them and allow RCT to push garrison.”

(original french version : c’est pas qu’on attendait les Mtc c’est que comme on restait à se regarder et qu’ils venaient pas on attendait pour faire diversion afin que les rct push garnison.)

FR has not a closed raid tradition, (nearly) every guild allows pug to follow them.

I was roaming on RoF Bl. Good fights for [Us] not plenty of but good ones.

Yeah on bay it was full blobbing, RDT and RCT lagged too much to do anything separated, i even suffered from lag while inside bloodlust ruins.

RDT was running at about TaG number (look at your first screen biglilstampie : “double number” is like saying my roaming full group was a small zerg) and MtC ran with about 15. The whole purpose of MtC rush was to pull you in order to make RDT push harder. Hostile zerg always looks outnumbering you that’s why RDT waited MtC because the leader fell he could not do it.

Else i want to thank you for wiping us at hills (waiting the wall to collapse to inc on us was a great move) and sunnyhill, sure it’s frustrating to get a 25+ zerg w(aka TaG) when u try to stealth cap a tower but it’s a part of the thrill.

PS : We did not call reinforcement from others maps for bay. It was a 60~80 blob.
Hope you enjoy loots

We don’t have the same standards, because not the same population/ servers encountered :

40+ = usual zerg
60+ = big zerg / blob
80+ = big blob
100+ = Mother Of All Blob

Had fun roaming on RoF Bl with tag [Us], you are skilled opponents. Sorry about my skill but i had to give up because of lag.

I prefer the idea of the trapped golem :
Explose golem the next time someone enter, convert all HP on AoE damage (equally between all players like a 5khp golem will do 100 dmg/person against a 500 zerg).

But for yak i can think of someone hiding inside (just put a anti-portal debuff for like 1 min).

AoE supply recuperation seems too much maybe only on yourself but greater chance or greater amount.

Remember the time when they first implement random MU, played like 1h like this at reset.

Is the bug at NW tower in BL fixed ?

Sry for double post : Vids from FR hope you enjoy them
[SoW] https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ElMQeY37TPo
[Haaa] https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fRb0vpl-Gk0

He meant that spreading the population to allow both competion between servers and reward for all wvwers is the goal of this.

Yes I meant that 10- (afaik i don’t know everyone) live outside EU timezone.

@Bear

It’s called multimap, 20+ is still decent.

We do not have many (maybe 10-) people outside EU timezone, players in that screen are showing dedication for FR, respect that. Don’t you remember when Xoac or US guild was fighting in middle tier ? Please complain about real nightcap team.

@Hule : idk

@Phantis

Hope you liked them, was a pleasure, with all this blob farm you should get a precursor before the reset You should try to farm AM zerg they loot very well.

I do (nor can) not play but it seems RoF seems to do a good job against DL (and us ofc). Keep it up guys and i hope you will have fun in the Bronze League, where you can have at least decent MU and maybe you will soon be able to compete us with some reinforcements.

I think it’s our roaming formation group. We wanna start at 5 but they were too afraid so we run at 50 and we are planning to lower at 40 the next time

PS : this is humor

Can’t wait for the reset, excited to have an another mu like that one.

I think your hardwaare/connection is guilty, running on FR with greater pop and had no problems outside 3way at SM.

I have really fun during this MU. You have more roaming/small scale/defenders groups that many server who fight before (excluding german where defenders are 20+) et it makes me happy to never get bored in my 6h straight.

Want to thanks Tchuu, OdS, the guys who defend godsword against 2 thieves with your godly ballista, the 2 thieves hunting me in briar and many others I fought.
Last I want to point out taht some of you should definitely learn to track a stealth thief, with 2 thieves we "tanked" a 10/15 guys melee train inside their Lodge for 10 minutes

@Meglobob

Yes, there is a French Community Manager (Stephane Lo Presti) like there is one for DE&SP communities.

Pretty sad. You were great opponents. I hope RoS will wake from the dead. I recommend RoS for anyone wanting a mid-low tier eu server providing great fights and fearless even when outnumbered.

In fact, the blind is unblockable but the damage are not.
Other bug, you can “override” Shadow shot with any skill with a cast time, allowing you in exemple to Backstab someone at distance. If you are stealthed and press quickly 3 → 1, you will ported to target (or anyone standing between) and immediately backstabbing it. I think this skill has two part, one being the shot and the other the “shadow strike” (as listed in combat log), and only the first is unblockable, the damage.

If by defensive u mean good in defense then thanks, our main weak point is defense and even if we learnt a lot from german servers we have a lot a work to do.

If by defensive u mean reluctant to attack, that’s because imo we have internal drama (+ pve event ) lowering our pug base but we are trying to do our best.

Close matchup, well balanced, most of my friends like this MU (but i can’t play :( ) even if sometimes it’s too much golems.

Nearly no FR read matchup thread so taunt us as you want apart me you will pull nobody. WBC (welcome at GH btw) are expert to find how coward we are so let the pr0 do the job

Nice to see GH & UW again but no gw2 for me blame holidays.

@mtRXX / RcKelly
Try whispering Kashinn, RDT leader, i know he did a gvg against GROU (from RA) he may accept.

@Crazeh
Pretty sad. I have found the commander who did this. He said that at mendon he had to defend SM attacked by BT and at LLW he was excepting large forces inside the keep to submerge from outer north him even if in our video u can see there is only 9 ppl inside. Not to excuse what he did.

@Liquid Storm
Already did this, but i’m only a pug roamer with little to no influence about strategy and tactics.

As reset is coming, i wish u all RNG loves for next matchup hf & gl.

Calm down I don’t represent my server, read my posts i’m mainly a roamer, i have no commander tag, my guild has 2 members, personal attack is meaningless.

I agree that FR blob but RoS goes from spread raid guild to one multimap blob which is from my pov a regression – i just want to point it out. About pug I can’t blame for blobbing just notice that FR is full of pug we have little to no raid guild and it’s going to start with some guilds coming from JS. And we have group of 10/20just open your eyes ([Haaa]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uCAGYS4_THE [Auld] https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3LsC-_CVhEE https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=F2cGUfCOX3E).

We do not have blob h24 on BL it’s just a multimap blob, like u with only about 10 permanents peoples scouting / roaming / doing daily / trying to take tower or keep …

During my few zerg times in this matchup i didn’t see FR running away but it’s just a personal experience.

@The Umpire
They usually stick on jol forums

@Agrios
I mostly do roam but i take part in zerg sometimes so i can tell the difference.

From what i see, RoS is more guild-based than FR which is heavily pug-based, i mean in example having riot + pug on one hostile bl / vcy + pug on an another / main pug at home / dex at eb give of a better map control in compare of having riot+vcy zerg and dex+pug zerg since u are everywhere and u either wipe/slow us giving time to a less stressed group to join u if necessary (i just put random guild tag i don’t know if numbers are viable).

@Agrios
I’m a roamer, the fact u are wiping blob i’m nearly never in doesn’t hurt my honor but thx for caring about.

The real complaint is why going for 60+ when 30+ works greatly against us look vid from cradorell. I mean if you have only one 60+ zerg why not split it into 2 30+ zerg able to wipe our 60+ zerg (it’s more 40+,60+ is for HM or EB) and this way protecting 2 BL.

But i agree that the ultimate tactics “moar numbers” is pretty common on FR.
Can you go on with things you would not have seen ? Pretty interested having all feedback about our server to improve.

@Cradorell
Very good vid (btw dislike the white&black effect but keep sharing) it shows how great things (coordinations/tactics/group optimization) u can do only at 30+ (and we lack of) so it don’t see the point going for 60+.

Quoting my post wasn’t necessary because more points that just skill is involved (and if u look closely i said u have skill)

In fact i prefer u stay at 30+ so our people inside blob + cdts can see the lack of skill (tbh most of them follow tag and spam 1 which isn’t skill) and trying to improve because it’s pretty like Agrios (always calling reinforce/not getting better).

Try looking for [Auld] (composed mainly of [SoW]& [PDR]) or [Haaa] they are doing pretty good job at 10+, you might love fights against them.

Yeah time to debat about who blob more !!!
[Who has more skill?]
I was not saying that FR doesn’t blob (i even tell u this FR blo, happy ?) but that i’m sad RoS began blobbing (because in the last matchup u didn’t do that and that was great and we are about the same u can’t blame us for “forcing u to blob”). I admit that we sometimes run at 60+ -especially on EB or FR BL- but go on RoS or BT BL and we have mostly (except events) like 40+ which can be manageable but your super awesome godly 30+ guild raid.

And about skill wait the blob defending hills on FR BL at 2 a.m at Tuesday ? wiped like 8 times against us 2 times and numbers were pretty balanced. just because on double impact the second group was too late.

For running away, i’m gonna say matter of perspective : i’ve seen no fights (i’m a roamer) where FR ran away nor RoS and sometimes I read commanders telling to say out of combat to wp and defend <insert objective name here>. Like u most of the time we only have one zerg + about 10 peoples at each map doing daily/ roaming/ crafting (speaking at off peak time here).

And please stop speaking about 0-4 a.m FR presence where u had actually some guys to defend when between 4-8 a.m ,your USA guild prime time, we had near to nobody. Look at this http://gw2tracker.net/wvw/stats/live Ruins of Surmia – all borders – Averaged by time of day – 1st graph and then try to tell me nightcapping doesn’t advantage u.
[/Who has more skill?]

If u look at my former post u should notice “very good job” and it’s really what i’m thinking since we have superior numbers -but not this superior- the fact you are staying close is a show of skill / dedication (/ nightcapping admit it too) / good tactics & strategy.

Seems some were getting tired with this calm matchup thread…

Due to computer overheat (why so rude summer ?) i can’t play but as far i can see RoS has been nightcapping us – USA influx i heard- but except that the only real complaint i can do is about guild raid. The last matchup we had, i used to meet so many 20+ guild raids and now it’s like 60+ zerg composed of former guild raids, i mean why ? u did great last time and managed to beat us in the closest/funniest matchup ever (and it was refreshing) and now it’s like an another server, pretty disappointed. Apart that you are doing a very good job.

To BT, sorry about RNG, sad it seems some of u gave up but keep fighting.

Awesome fights at FR hills.

From FR,

@Steelo : Was a pleasure. We had a hard time to reset Godsword but the fights were great. You know you didn’t have to build ballista+AC on Faithleap to pull us (if it was u) :)
@Catinka : there is no much thieves on FR , I think it’s me u see everywhere on my roaming spree :) try playing against the nearly full of thieves guild GuM on UW with their special ops Dolyak Spiking Team
@Monkeymonger : Usually we have complaint about FR blobbing all day [troll] and we are working hard to make this complaint true to follow VZ lead[/troll] .We have only 2/3 guilds in 25+ format most of the times it’s about 15, except PU zerg.
@thisismitch : Nice vid. Quite disappoint that you rarely target enemies, hard to tell exactly who u fight, but sill enjoyable.
Pro-lazy tip : you can put plague skill on auto-attack.

GH did a very good job and us a worse one but still a good MU. Glad to see PA fighting again as the last MU against them u were nearly 5 per map (it was after ES collapse iirc). Looking forward more MU like these after summer holidays if RNG gods don’t put FR against Piken/AM/AR again.

It’s because you didn’t see the 40+ UW zerg sticking your 4 men awesome team No seriously I don’t see the problem to stack at 50+ (~35 on ts + ~20 pug) when you are attacked by 60+. And about gigantic zerg blob, lol ? we share about same sizes ( +/- 10 people) and after AM who goes on 100+ (said by their commander) I’m rather reluctant calling blob zerg so small. Stop calling BLOOOOOOOOOOB each time you meet a zerg that prevent you to paint the map.

I have the same problem with some UW players who engage 3vs1 and run away at 3vs3 (most small fights I have it was on ratio 2 (FR) : 3 (UW)) , 25+ zerg WP to defend unupgraded supply camp attacked by 4 people, people staying in tower firing with AC/ballista me or pulling NPCs in the fight ... After ~4h of roaming on UW BL i had 3 fair fights (2 wins) , I miss the time at every camp you met 2 GuM now they are in the zerg (I have no problem at all with this shift but I’m disappointed that one of the best roaming guild - at least i saw it like- became an another zerg guild).

Only 2 Omegas (controllers went melee on the door …) and ~5 alphas. I don’t know why but when I went on UW bl on prime time commander was saying “Etheron will fall !!!!” (french equivalent).

Very enjoyable matchup. Quite surprise UW is really stronger than the last time we met, maybe they had influx but still happy to see them.
We will loose a lot of points, I think it’s a good thing since our rank is higher than normal because of previous matchup. A lot of people resting from these matchups too, we worked hard and some of us can’t take more wvw but you will have all the lootbags you want just consider dropping ours before.

From the FR thief,

Had nice duels against SWD from 2a.m to 4a.m . Very close one with Nozdormu and the norn war but your thief was owning me. Looking forward more duels but only 2 non-uw people is pretty light.

Have fun.

80+ blob from FR, nice to know I never saw that on FR (max was 60+ in EB prime time with hard matchup), we usually play on 30-40 format per zerg and 50 when against huge blob. Btw, preventing our 10 men crew to take your hills a few hours ago (yes 10 men maybe 15 but no more) is something you can do instead of trying to fight people at FR and complaining about us on forums.
Because seriously, you want fight for fun, why not, but at least take the fights we give you. I don’t see the point of running on EB and getting smashed by “80+ blob” while a 10+ group is taking hills and sunnyhills with nearly no resistance (just 2 guys against us).
FYI, some guilds are planning to leave FR for AR/SFR because they want good fights (i’m not kidding and they don’t have 60+ roster), think about it twice before generalizing what you (as guilds) see in pug. I’m not saying that we are fearless (and I miss when we were) nor good (many among us agree on that) but even as a pu of FR i feel (as far as i’m playing) your pu bad about zerg tactics and siege.
I understand your frustration to fight clueless people on small scale but understand our to fight clueless people on larger scale.

Some extracts from FR forums (translated by me):
“Quantity over quality , they have a mentality : " Doesn’t work at 30 against fewer, let’s try at 50" "
" [We are bad] … not surprisingly 130k+ headstart , boring matchup and this pve event is not going to improve this"

I have been on WSR all week, except reset.“Relaxing” matchup in compare of the last one but still very fun, because different, like old days of Ranik.

Had fun times fighting hours between garrison and sunnyhill at 20-30 against 30-40 (so hard to tell numbers because you always fell outnumbered) and loved the defense golems on garrison iirc. Was fun to see dzagonur going for hills, we weren’t focus on keeping it anyway, while they had nothing on their HM but they will pay for taking garrison behind us (great move guys, I give you the medal of ninja).Looking forward more.

Your guild zerg are good but in off-peak times, our zerg are like paper, I hit many 4k on lvl-80 character with #1 and i was no zerker. W do not have 50% of zerk ranger … ok only 30%, we are looking to improve the composition of our zerg to add more guardians (thx for positive feedback about these).
We seems to have same (we do not outnumber you like 3:1) number (at least on WSR map).All you need is coverage, organisation and maybe tactics (because you so love being portal-bombed). But i concede you that you are very good on small scale fights. and most of all you never stop fighting (except one time when you ran away while you outnumbered us) and that’s very great.

For EB, it’s very strange we didn’t manage to keep our tower T3 since we had queues. EB is always an awkward map full of “pveboyz” and people not listening commanders because ,you know, when you do FoTM 30, screw the rules.

Either,I do not understand that, it is just a bunch of pixels. We used to be “fearless” before our fall in oct-dec 2012 but now the average mentality is really disappointing. Yesterday when we inc on catas, the commader had only 40% of people really following him and about 60% staying near the tower or doing random stuff, no need to say we failed.

Maybe AS suffers from this too because they were hurt but the same fall (large exodus from organised guilds + influx of pveboyz).

I’m surpised AS managed sometimes to outman you 5:1, your numbers “equals” FR’s and the last time we had them we always outmanned them by 4:1, do you/they get exodus/influx?

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The problem in FR is that most of our people in zerg are PU that are afraid of dying (i know it’s weird) and prefer the calm of a fortified tower over the glorious sound of battle (maybe a backfire of fighting too much german serveur which are very meh on open field from my point of view) but guilds like aZm, BL ,GROU or RDT never fear a good fight. Set apart PU zerg and guild zerg and you will find what you seek.

In my knowlegde no guilds in FR encourages cheating and we are trying to find a solution against our cheaters. We (at least UFR alliance on FR) apologize for that unacceptable behavior.

Apart from these problems, the last night was very fun and the new matchup system is very refreshing. Special mention to GuM thiefs, i love you guys.

Due to familial reasons I can’t fight this week but I saw the score on millenium and it seems pretty balanced. Hope you enjoy it.