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I feel engies are less viable than rangers right now. maybe even necros, unless youre pro at the signet cele build.
rampage is fine, at least u can counterplay it, unlike the Mesmer.
after they tone down other profs so that we’re actually viable in competitive spvp?
id love to see shapeshifting. it’s a must imo.
I take GFTE with my condi celestial bunker because I sit in one area and spam blinds, and shouts always for LB/GS (WHaO and SotP)
not true, playing all day, it’s blockable. in fact, it hardly ever works.
I don’t have problems with taunt, it still hits most of the time. And it definitely goes through aegis, engie blocks and warrior blocks and i’m sure it works against other blocks too.
great! maybe I just had a bad day.
Apparently they’re going to do balance updates every 2 weeks from now on. Dare to dream?
Is this for real? Or joking?
That’s the word on the street.
source?
because everyone is spamming blocks and invulns. cant really touch mesmers unless I get lucky with at taunt in between their blocks. this is why I was saying that BW should still go through blocks at least. but nope, dev morons continue to kneejerk nerf kitten into uselessness. everything except the stuff that matters like Mesmer and cele ele cancer.
BW is still unblockable.
not true, playing all day, it’s blockable. in fact, it hardly ever works.
it will probably be some sort of useless soft cc cripple, poison and bleed spam (vines). prove me wrong ANet
I definitely felt alot weaker with the BW nerf yesterday.
because everyone is spamming blocks and invulns. cant really touch mesmers unless I get lucky with at taunt in between their blocks. this is why I was saying that BW should still go through blocks at least. but nope, dev morons continue to kneejerk nerf kitten into uselessness. everything except the stuff that matters like Mesmer and cele ele cancer.
BW is trash now. it hurts. we didn’t deserve this crap.
nerf their mindwrack combo damage by about 15% and put some icd on the kitten block.
even as a big proponent of BW, I have to say it’s very underwhelming right now. there is just an incredible amount of block/invuln spam in this game and I thought being able to at least taunt through blocks made sense. I felt relevant in every game because I could interrupt rezzes/stomps and stuff. right now, BW is pretty crappy. I cant really time skillful taunts on mesmers, eles and guards as theyre always either invuln or blocking. it still has its uses, but it was over-nerfed. yet another moronic move by the devs. because rangers needed nerfs amirite? tbh I think i’ll give it until the next balance patch and I might just call it. my frustrations with the devs are approaching a critical level…ive stuck it through for 3 years.
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You clearly have no idea how an ele is played or how to play one. Ele is unbalanced atm but you’re way exaggerating.
20 weapon skills on low cd.
What are you smoking? Ele has the highest cooldowns of all classes in game.
Highest cooldowns of all classes? You don’t represent elementalists positively by intentionally spreading misinformation and insulting someone’s intelligence. There’s absolutely NOTHING in this game that can do as much damage as this in such a short cool down.
This is FAR worse than the engie nades bug everyone cried about. Sadly, this isn’t even a bug.
Here’s an idea, don’t get hit by this.
I’m not saying it’s a bad skill, but the cooldowns on most of the weapon skills are high, you cannot deny that.
yes, don’t get hit by this every 3 seconds. sounds good.
I think I need a new game. Overwatch cant come soon enough. most of us are pretty fed up with these scrub devs
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celestial condi beastmaster, for those who enjoyed the condi bunker prepatch.
http://intothemists.com/guides/6050-ikyros_celestial_condi_beastmaster
Is it still unblockable though.
this is the most important part. im happy =)
I think it going through invuln and evades were the bugs.
I think most of the bad mesmers pre patch are now being carried by traits post patch.
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I killed Countless’ cheese mes 1v1 pretty easily today. I made tons of mistakes, still pulled through with almost full HP. not sure about necros just yet, no issues so far.
Also found conditions to be weaker on ranger after nerf to offhand, I wish they would give us the bonfire radius back that was big big nerf.
im convinced theyre gonna give us back the offhand range baseline. bonfire sucks right now.
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yah im looking forward to that. just played a few with double birds, and it absolutely wrecks mesmers and thieves.
right now im not sure I wanna get too used to blind spam. im pretty sure theyre gonna put an ICD on GFTE sooner or later. but doing it once every 6s is nice for sure. two birds, u get to do a little more often. there is still a 15s CD on pet swap in combat.
that being said, I did mention that’s one build variation. im also gonna try using hawk and snow owl for additional chill. man, that’s blind, chill, weakness, and taunt with one button press >.<
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I only play ranger and I dislike seeing other rangers, with a few exceptions. it’s hard to play one effectively.
I just don’t think regen is sufficient in current state of the game in which we get popped for 10-13k on 3k armor from a single damage source. sadly, this is also why settler, crusader, knight, and rabid amulets are useless.
oh sorry I missed your build. glad im not the only one running it. yes, lack of mobility sucks.
it depends where one’s MMR is, Karnac. certain builds just don’t work well against better players. but I do agree that we’re better off now than we were before patch, even relative to other professions except Mesmer, which shames everyone else atm.
im seeing a lot of ineffective power builds, people still trying to pew pew with LB and nothing else. these are the people complaining generally.
I don’t think rangers need any nerfs, just bug fixes. thieves and engies don’t need any nerfs. in fact from your list, I only think eles and mesmers are a LITTLE BIT over the top.
For anyone who enjoyed condi bunker gameplay, this is probably the best option right now in spvp. I was extremely disappointed with various Settler variants, so I decided to try cele. It turned out to be very effective if you enjoy this type of gameplay. Having less than 20k HP is an uphill battle right now.
http://intothemists.com/guides/6050-ikyros_celestial_condi_beastmaster
You can min-max the build in many ways but the foundation of cele stats and 0/0/6/6/6 should remain.
there is no condi meta man, no one is running condis in top MMR. engies aren’t viable, condi necros aren’t viable, condi rangers are better but still meh. burn guards are probably the closest to viable, but are mostly rallybait if anyone slots a few condi cleanses which people tend to.
also stop misusing word meta. meta wont appear until a few months after HoT release.
i agree with him. id say most rangers haven’t yet found the optimal builds, which is why theyre complaining. that’s not to say we don’t need buffs.
well we don’t have to talk about my build here, the thread is about your build. ive had lots of success running remorseless valk, and it works quite nicely with GS. while id love more GS buffs, I just wanted to say the weapon works really nicely with QZ, SotP and Remorseless. that is all.
QZ is your only real means of a on demand fury.
this is false, there are many ways to get new instances of fury, which is why the build is so strong (along with maxing out ferocity and power).
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noooooo ive been running valk, u don’t need zerker. I keep telling people. damage is huge
I found GS works best with the Remorseless bonus. if ure not mauling someone for 7k then u might as well not maul at all (jk =P) I don’t have too much of an issue 1v1 against mesmers by taking my GS to their face. as u noticed, QZ hugely amplifies GS’s potential. I think it really is the combination of GS play and QZ that makes it so potent. a buff to GS AA would be money.
and yes relying on LB to do damage sucks sometimes, which is why I moved away from builds revolving around the LB. and it’s gonna be reflect galore once elite specs launch, anet went bonkers on reflects. the Mesmer one needs an ICD, like right now.
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puck I think u might be onto something. it seems ok, but too soon to tell. not with axe though.
carrion still felt too squishy, despite the high vit.
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for wvw, id go combination of dire/shaman
in spvp, not well. damage spikes are too high, so even running x/x/6/6/x with 16k HP blows hard. any scrub Mesmer can pop you for 10-12k on your 3k armor, and someone else will finish you off. that’s been my experience in my mmr bracket running low vit builds. wish we had access to shaman stats. you can try carrion.
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nice to see people running QZ. it really grows on ya. mobility is tricky indeed if not using the 2 shouts + resounding timbre, unless using traveler runes. on my shout build I just spam WHaO, so rune choice remains flexible.
I like how you’ve incorrectly stated that taunt was a hard CC, when it’s actually a condition that can not only be cleansed, but can also be 100% negated through resistance and zerker stance.
it’s a status effect, like stun.
very good list, addresses most of our concerns.
there is way too much block spamming in this game and taunt should work through it (across all professions). it shouldn’t work through invuln and evades though. I hope they don’t gut BW into uselessness.
well lots of things counter it, but he can just leave and blow up some other scrub on your team.
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my build is pretty strong (http://intothemists.com/guides/5913-ikyros_remorseless_valkyrie_bearsword), been doing quite well against pretty good players. ive also seen other good power rangers carry, just a handful. so you should be able to at least hold your own.
buuut compared to the new Mesmer, ehh hard to compete with that. the mes will be toned down for sure. it carries right now.
I do have to say ranger condi builds are very underwhelming, but we have quite a few alternatives to the power build. Eura’s been doing okay from what ive seen.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/Eura-Current-Build/page/2#post5243829
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why not? you know they have endure pain yeah? on separate cooldowns.
taunt is pretty much perfect the way it is. id just make sure it doesnt work through evades.
So what the video shows is that no matter how much the ranger could possibly outplay the ele, as long as the ele does what was done in the video…The ranger stands zero chance even if the ele doesn’t fight back.
but that ranger was such a bad. how is this even a thread?
a thief wouldn’t stand a chance either, yet both the ranger and the thief can spike the d/d ele down when +1’ing the fight. what’s the issue here?
Duel the same ranger in the video then, or duel an ele on your ranger (perhaps mine?). Show us how it’s done. And do you not read? That ranger wasn’t “really” dueling. He was just dps’ing to prove a point. Don’t be dumb. Please. Just don’t be one of those guys.
no, you don’t be dumb. what ranger “dps’s” with longbow AA? lmao.
taunt should be a punishing mechanic only broken with a stunbreaker.
it should work through blocks and invulns, but not through evades imo.
id love to know the same. definitely 6/0/6/0/6 for BW, and Remorseless would allow us to go very tanky, without any concern for crit chance. bears to survive zergs.
I was thinking valk armor and weapon, and cavalier jewelry. not sure if this is the best way to optimize it though.
So what the video shows is that no matter how much the ranger could possibly outplay the ele, as long as the ele does what was done in the video…The ranger stands zero chance even if the ele doesn’t fight back.
but that ranger was such a bad. how is this even a thread?
a thief wouldn’t stand a chance either, yet both the ranger and the thief can spike the d/d ele down when +1’ing the fight. what’s the issue here?
^ I also feel any nerf to Rampage would make it virtually useless. leave it as is. it should hurt if u get schmacked by those huge telegraphs.
however, knowing WHEN to pop rampage is what sets apart the good warriors from the chaff.
when I see a rampage warrior, I smile. any sort of power build with GS should destroy them. BW helps of course.…Greatsword? Who is the developer that is such a fanboy of the kitten greatsword? Light and medium classes shouldn’t be going toe to toe with warriors. In fact you might survive if you don’t allow them to close on you…
You should be able to go toe-to-toe with a Warrior and beat them with your GS, it is a rather fantastic weapon and you should really try it. Warriors are no problem. So many evades with block and stun.