Guild Wars 2

As I am looking at the precursors right now. They are going down in price zap is down to 220g with like 12 available dusk is around 330 which it has been for a while there are others listed in the high range of course but the low is like 330. Seems to me that prices as of today at least are going down on precursors. Will they stay there depends on how fast they are bought up. The people with them listed more than likely wont relist them because of the fee they would have to pay.

I was thinking this suggestion over and I am not sure if it is actually a good idea. Maybe if they stealth upped the drop rate then that would be better.

If they where to do this change it would really hurt the economy.

I honestly think certain lodestones are higher because of recipes and the fact that you need so many. The tp hardly ever has 1000+ available of any lodestone except glacial which is why its only like 60s.

Corrupted lodestones use to be 1g+ they are down to 70s and falling everyday. When more lodestones of X type hit the market the prices go down.

Also by doing something like this will upset alot of sellers because basically the market would be flooded with them and they would lose money at the price that they have listed and all the time they farmed those stones to place on the tp for profit would be a loss.

I dont know I think it has to be more carefully thought of than just hey here is lodestones for tokens. The idea is ok but its more to it than just making sure that it takes time to do it. You have to think about people that have invested in and are selling lodestones for profit also.

You can get atleast 5g a day running plinx on cursed shore and just buy them of the tp put in the buy offer instead of buying them outright. Its kind of like lay away and its the smarter thing to do. Alot of people selling the lodestones don’t want to compete with undercutting and want their money quick so buy offers get filled quite often. Also if someone bids higher than you it costs you nothing to adjust your offer as in no tax.

So there is already a grind to get the money to get the lodestones you want its cursed shore all while getting karma (more than even the new karma rewards for dungeons) rares to salvage for ecto’s. Etc really cursed is the place to be for level 80 its free money.

is it still open on TC after the restart?

yea tc is full

looking for uncontested also

yes you will lose it, yes rarity is derived from stats. not sure but I doubt its working as intended all the legendaries have the same stats,

toughness, vitalty, and power which you can get on other weapons.

Same issue server ehmry bay. Can’t enter Rata Sum council level for the Poi sits at loading screen.

Some of the precursors went up about a week ago. When unique exotics like llya, visions of the mist, whisperblade, jormags breath all hit the tp around the same time priced at or above the same price as precursors. Then all the precursors pretty much got priced above those at least the popular ones did.

I dont see it. There was a large spike for some of the precursors around beginning of october since then they seem to be between 300-400 range. With the legend hitting around 500g range probably do to supply since there is only ever 2 or 3 at the max on tp.

Dusks always go down in price when there are alot of them so paying attention to the most expensive one is a waste of time. When there are 12 dusks its about 350g. Dawn has stayed around 300g -335g for a while now. It looks like supply Demand when I look at it. I check precursors all the time on the TP.

Zap Hit high of about 290 not to long ago there are 12 as of 15 minutes ago driving the price down to 245g.

Also you didn’t get the point of my OP. Its still a skin and something you don’t have to do or is required to play the game. Its something people want not need. People are impatient the game has only been out for 2 months and they want it now. There is a big update coming in November for GW2 who knows what happens then.

If you buy the armor salvage with BLC and relist the Rune its a loss o.O.

Things will be in a better place for all.

Its just a skin!!!!! That is the first thing its only a skin. You do not HAVE to own it. It is not NEEDED to progress or participate in any content.

All these precursors are to expensive threads always leave out 1 important thing. Unique exotics which cost as much as the precursors do. No one goes on about RNG for a Unique exotic when they require the same lodestones as the Legendaries.

Everyone is focused on the precursors.

If you can’t get the 300g to buy the precursor off the tp where are you going to get the 200g to buy the lodestones? Or the 67g to buy the orchalium for gift of metal. All of these things I just mentioned are all optional of course and are not required of you to participate in GW2.

If Anet just gave precursors away. Those same people will complain about lodestone prices, then its on to drop rates, then its on to RNG for salvaging to get there globs of ectoplasm cause you know you need like 500 globs of ecto, then it will be complaining about clover RNG.

All of this is optional remember when your in COF with your already set up exotic staff that has the perfect stats that you only want the legendary because YOU want it not because you are forced to have it.

Anatolian Turk.4057:

I’m a level 80 Norn Elementalist and like everybody else my goal is to craft my first legendary weapon ‘the Biofrost’. Couple of hours ago i put 40 exotic staffs into the mystic forge costing me well over 100g and guess what? I Got nothing.

Guild Wars 2 (GW2) is a great game and it requires a lot of farming and grinding no questions about that BUT today that wasn’t even enough to get what i wanted. I spent so much of my time farming for gold and losing everything less than a minute in the mystic forge is heart breaking. It was a gamble i know that but i didnt have any other choice at the emd. How was i suppose to get the precursor anyway? Some people told me to buy the precursor from the Trading Post (TP) but the prices on the TP is ridicules. the precursor ‘The Legend’ is 400g on the TP which is unbelievably high.

Anyway from today onwards im going to a break from GW2 i dont know how long thats going to be. i guess time will tell. And i would like to hear your stories, suggestions or opinions. Sorry for the long post. Thanks

This is terrible I don’t even know what to say to this one.

You obviously didnt care about your 100g at all. If you bought all exotics to see if you got your precursor. You bet the whole house and mortgage and car and cats and dogs on 1 ticket basically.

Its your own fault sorry. If you did any kind of research even a little bit you would have seen it would have been much more beneficial to buy level 80 rares and resell anything that came out you didnt want so you can keep up. I don’t know what you where thinking with this stunt.

Its RNG you are not the first and wont be the last sadly.

Bonus info- Bitfrost, Twilight, Quip, Bolt, Sunrise, etc.

Legendary = Special effets

Stats = Exotic. You where not forced throw you gold away remember that. It was not needed to progress in the game or to participate in any of content at all. You could have bought

Pearl bezerker staff for 2g of tp and it have the same stats. Remember that.

Tallis.5607:

oZii.2864:

Go tell a judge that it was to expensive to go the legit route see how far that get you.

Well, to be honest, it would get you pretty far, if you needed life-saving medication that drug companies only seel at a very inflated price.

But in game-terms, you are 100% right. Botters are cheaters. People that buy from botters are cheaters too. I even consider players that do not report bots to be cheaters as well.

They need to step up their game to stop botters, before it is too late and too much gold is in the game.

Even today I reported 7 botters (including 4 naked level 30s in an level 80 area, lol).

In what world do you live in again?

There is RNG involved in Making Volcanus you don’t just go out and get 350 molten lodestones and 100 destroyer lodestones which are the hardest thing to get and most expensive for any of the legendaries and unique exotics. You can eventually get volcanus if you farm it but you have no control over how long that takes.

You know the precursors drop and can be made in the forge so you can eventually get 1 by those means also you just dont know how long it takes. Its the same thing for precursor and unique exotics RNG is involved with both of them.

Also your 3rd party gold seller arguement is weak.

Its against TOS go ahead buy it who cares. You will eventually be banned. It doesnt affect anybody else if you go and buy your gold elsewhere. You keep making it seem like anybody that does is forced to. Its not required.

Which I am willing to bet if prices where exactly the same would still buy the thing using gems anyway. The people that would pay would pay regardless of price because they want it fast.

There is no high level content that requires you to have alot of gold. There is no high level content that requires you to have Twilight, Bolt, Dreamer, Kudzu, Quip, etc. You want it and that is the issue. How fast you want it.

Snow.5269:

oZii.2864:

Snow.5269:

The amount of people opposed to make precursors actually challenging to acquire is astounding. What is legendary about going to a 3rd party site & purchasing 300g? What is legendary about sitting at the mystic forge & throwing garbage into it until you get a desired result? Absolutely nothing.

Horrible, horrible design. The only reasons a person would not support a positive change to the game is out of fear of losing “special snowflake”status, they have no understanding of other prerequisites, or they have a precursor already.

Well actually you can’t please everyone! You know cause the precursors do drop from mobs with a really low drop rate. You know like many other games in the past that have rare items. Everyone seems to not mention that.

Its obvious from design precursor is suppose to be Special Snowflake status. So you sound bitter because you don’t have one and anyone that does is some snob or think they are better than everyone else that is what your assuming. You only feel its better design because you like the idea while I may not.

What he is proposing is extremely easy to do.

What I dont get is the focus on precursors and fairness but none of you people crying about precursor prices are saying anything what so ever about the unique exotics that cost just as much as precursors.

Then the argument would look like you all want things handed to you. Cause all you need is just the weapon then. Wait some of them you need gifts for too. There is more to the TP than just precursors there are other weapons that cost just as much as the prrecursor.

Also 3rd party site = possible suspension or termination. I like how everyone tries to throw out there this little tid bit like its anets fault and they are failing the game by not changing how precursors are obtained.

BMW/Ford/Chevy/Honda Dealer= Legit

Chop Shop = Risk = Jail Time or Scam

You dont go to the chop shop to get a car cause its cheaper then the dealer do you? You can but you know the risk right. You go buy drugs from the corner drug dealer or you get them legit through prescription?

Anyone that has a problem with the current system is entitled and wants things handed to them and hold animosity to those that already have a precursor. See what I did there?

Also to the people that agree with the OP have any of you done more than one path in all the dungeons? You know there have been several paths that where broken/easily exploitable. Path 4 on Arah is dumb and as far as I know able to be completed but not the way its intended to be completed. So we are talking some dungeon master title when some of the dungeons aren’t finished. So yo know what happens then?

Everyone QQ’s anet what you doing I can’t get my legendary cause the High Priestess Dwayna regens to full health everytime she goes in Stealth on Path 4 of Arah. Or Oh Anet thats not fair what about all those people that where doing COF in 10 minute speed runs you know skipping parts?

So players just now trying to obtain their precursor are “entitled” because they have to spend roughly 30 times the amount of gold a person who bought one off the TP did shortly after release?

Wouldn’t that be the opposite of entitlement, as in we have to work infinitely harder to obtain our precursor than those who did before us?

Regarding exotics like Valcanus etc, yes they should be worth more than a precursor actually. For 2 reasons.

1. They are on par with a legendary by themselves

2. You don’t need to grind 1 million karma & a additional 400-500g in mats after obtaining a precursor.

1 mill karma is just a time sink not necessarily hard just takes time. So you want it fast. The mats cost about the same in some cases more for the ones requiring to types of lodestones. So you have no problem with Volcanus costing 500g but the precursor you do?

Also you don’t HAVE to do anything in the game. It is a skin after all and isn’t required to progress further. It also can drop and can be made in the forge. Volcanus can be farmed but guess that takes to long too but we don’t mention that.

That kind of goes against what your saying doesnt it? Volcanus is ok to be 500g cause I don’t have to do other parts like I would for a legendary. This sounds like a time issue to me. Since making a legendary takes a good bit of time there should be a part that is easy to complete and everyone see this as the Precursor.

The way things are going I would say Anet see’s it as the opposite since they added the Karma Jugs to increase Karma therefore reducing the grind portion as the daily and monthly with booster can get you close to 100k. They didn’t do or say anything about the price of precursors on TP.

VendettaDFA.9368:

Sorry but comparing an Illegal sites gold pricing to ANET’s right to set their price on the game and contents within the game is a weak WEAK attempt to legitimize the goldsellers price only to try and validate your thought that ANET is overcharging for gems. If you think ANET has the price too high then say so.

Goldsellers are illegal scum …period. Of course someone with no operational overhead can undercut the price. They don’t have a company full of employees on a payroll depending on the legitimate income from their work to support them.

This 100%

Ill use example I used before.

3rd party seller= Risk/Possible suspension/Termination of account/Scammed/Hacked

Anet Gem store = Legit no risk

Official Automotive dealer = Legit

Chop Shop = Risk/Possible scam/ Jail time/ or could be worse depending/

Corner Drug dealer = Risk/Scam/ Jailtime and many other things

Prescription Doctor = Legit

Go tell a judge that it was to expensive to go the legit route see how far that get you.

The examples are kind of extreme but same rule applies.

You are not meant to obtain gold through a 3rd party as per TOS. Let Anet handle that I am sure they will. Then you can jump on high horse and say I told you so and watch as it wont matter at all 2 years later but at least you had your moment I guess.

Snow.5269:

The amount of people opposed to make precursors actually challenging to acquire is astounding. What is legendary about going to a 3rd party site & purchasing 300g? What is legendary about sitting at the mystic forge & throwing garbage into it until you get a desired result? Absolutely nothing.

Horrible, horrible design. The only reasons a person would not support a positive change to the game is out of fear of losing “special snowflake”status, they have no understanding of other prerequisites, or they have a precursor already.

Well actually you can’t please everyone! You know cause the precursors do drop from mobs with a really low drop rate. You know like many other games in the past that have rare items. Everyone seems to not mention that.

Its obvious from design precursor is suppose to be Special Snowflake status. So you sound bitter because you don’t have one and anyone that does is some snob or think they are better than everyone else that is what your assuming. You only feel its better design because you like the idea while I may not.

What he is proposing is extremely easy to do.

What I dont get is the focus on precursors and fairness but none of you people crying about precursor prices are saying anything what so ever about the unique exotics that cost just as much as precursors.

Then the argument would look like you all want things handed to you. Cause all you need is just the weapon then. Wait some of them you need gifts for too. There is more to the TP than just precursors there are other weapons that cost just as much as the prrecursor.

Also 3rd party site = possible suspension or termination. I like how everyone tries to throw out there this little tid bit like its anets fault and they are failing the game by not changing how precursors are obtained.

BMW/Ford/Chevy/Honda Dealer= Legit

Chop Shop = Risk = Jail Time or Scam

You dont go to the chop shop to get a car cause its cheaper then the dealer do you? You can but you know the risk right. You go buy drugs from the corner drug dealer or you get them legit through prescription?

Anyone that has a problem with the current system is entitled and wants things handed to them and hold animosity to those that already have a precursor. See what I did there?

Also to the people that agree with the OP have any of you done more than one path in all the dungeons? You know there have been several paths that where broken/easily exploitable. Path 4 on Arah is dumb and as far as I know able to be completed but not the way its intended to be completed. So we are talking some dungeon master title when some of the dungeons aren’t finished. So yo know what happens then?

Everyone QQ’s anet what you doing I can’t get my legendary cause the High Priestess Dwayna regens to full health everytime she goes in Stealth on Path 4 of Arah. Or Oh Anet thats not fair what about all those people that where doing COF in 10 minute speed runs you know skipping parts?

Khezekiah Bellamy.5016:

just wanted to give everyone a heads up if you plan on making the staff. it does NOT glow all over like the greatsword. i was exspecting a massive blue glowing staff like the greatsword does. the staff only glows a little at the top

That sucks they really need to work on some Staffs for sure. Melandru’s gaze has a kind of Eye thing at the Top and there is a little green light source that comes from it. Its not bad looking I think I have deathwish so Im good with that.

Staff though really need more love.

Tom Larder.9701:

Ok so I want to point out something from the very beggining of this thread nad remake an argument.

A hugely minute and miniscule number of the GW2 community own precursor weapons. This is bad, because they can (and have done) charge what they want and become a financial superpower which dramatically effects the rest of the economy and effectively devalues everything else for them alone. Everything is affordable to them and the majority of the market is not affordable for us. Looking at gold sincs, we can see that this causes inbalance as well. For example map travel – to be fair the gold sinc should scale to your overall finance in the same way that tax does in real life. However it is currently bound by level only, so players of the same level but much less finance will find that the gold sinc in map travel is a significant cost and limits their gameplay in comparison to a rich player.

This represents the flaws in our own real life economy which has lead to nations borrowing money that they do not have and digging deeper debts. (This could potentially be a dangerous real life threat for GW2 players that might want to use real money to buy gold… it’s very easy to get carried away!)

A point that some people are making is that Items need to leave the economy (e.g. thousands of mystic forge attempts) in equilibrium with items entering in order that they may maintain value, which has been highlighted by one of the devs earlier in this post (millions of the same item sitting in TP will reduce their value significantly).

A couple of good examples of this are Anet creating goals and rewards that involve these worthless mats e.g. monthly salvage title – a great way to get basic mats back out of TP. This works incredibly well. Mystic forge itself as a priciple (not involving precursor weapons) does this incredibly well also – buy four items of lesser value for the potential to get one item of greater value.

The problem is that precursor weapons have completely demolished the economy because they are near enough priceless.

Random chance is actually not a fair model at all. Players have purchased this game to experience it’s content; some of that content needs to be worked for and earned – a good ethic that creates a sense of investment and pride in the Player’s account which thus leads them to most likely stay committed to the game for longer. Random chance ensures that some players will never get a precursor weapon – it is likely that they will eventually, but is still possible that it will never happen.

For this problem to be resolved and thus balance returned to the TP and overall economy I believe firmly, as others have stated, that the precursor weapons need to be account bound and thus literally priceless. NOT at all worthless. But priceless. They need to be removed from the TP.

No! Like has been said several times in this thread by a few people. Saying that only a handful have precursors is speculation. No one has evidence of that. Really there was 1 guy who had all the dusks he posted on guru. It got hot on reddit. He made a ton of money.

That was like 1 month ago. You think he is the only 1 with a Dusk since then? The system is basically rich get richer if you want to. Many people are just chucking rares to get any precursor and flipping it. All that has been done by those “rich few” people is they have shown everyone that looks at the tp about where to price a precursor. Thats it.

Precursors have not demolished the economy (hyperbole) bots have. Like a poster said above me Its cheaper now to find a Precursor than before. All you need is a level 80 rare weapon to get you in the door and if you dont care about what precursor you get and just want to make some money. You can get 2 focus and like 2 spears for 70s total. with a random chance to get any exotic which could still mean profit. Cause alot of people do that to.

Bots have hurt the economy not people that have the precursor market cornered. When its not cornered in the first place because anyone has the chance to get one. So barrier to entry is luck/rng. Globs of ecto are like 13 silver 60copper last I checked your almost better off salvaging any rare below level 80 than even trying to sell it on the TP.

Only reason prices for level 80 great swords always hover at 19s-22s on average is because of people throwing them in the forge.

Twilight Zone Guy.1487:

I kind of wonder where the money to buy them is coming from right now. Are there really that many people with that much money buying them or are they sitting there and never being bought? There are only profitable if someone is buying, obviously, so there must be people willing to pay that much. Honestly this points to a more pressing issue to me, which is the mass inflation that will occur over time as more money is pumped into the system. If there are enough people with hundreds of gold around right now that precursors are making money then its going to get worse over time as more gold is created in the economy. I wouldn’t be surprised if things on the market sell for thousands of gold a year or two down the line.

The game is world wide so its not like there are a ton of people running around with fat pockets. Its just that everyone can see which are the most wanted items. So you can see there is 12 dusks for sale then 8 left after a week or whatever and everyone knows its people with fat pockets. If 4 dusks get bought it doesnt mean mass pop is rich.

Some people make the price hike on purpose to flip them. Ive only seen 3 legendaries on my server and I have alot of hours played. 2 people just recently got theirs and 1 is world first for Frost Fang. Maybe its different on other servers. Only time I ever see alot of the more expensive weapons is if I get moved to overflow in Lions Arch then its people from everywhere in there. Still maybe 1 or 2 of the really expensive weapons if I see any there.

Want =/= Need. This is not a grinding game if you don’t want it to be. Grinding is also person dependent. My Grind doesn’t equal your grind but anyways.

Your not being forced to get the lodestones you want them and to get them you have to go down a path which you and I’m sure many other consider a grind. You are not forced to do this though.

You can uptier or run Twilight arbor in MF. I got 5 just running it for the head, chest, boots and leggings and gloves. Im sure there are other places it drops but I know it drops there for sure and the cores also.

Its not like TA is a hard dungeon when you learn the place.

According to the wiki all the onyx crafting materials drop from anything in TA and earth elementals.

Snow.5269:

oZii.2864:

Don’t agree at all. I don’t know how much you watch the Trading Post. Infinite Light hit the trading post for 555g about a week ago I think. It was gone a few hours later.

Volcanus has yet to hit the TP and costs about as much as Infinite light if all mats are bought I think the lightning hammer is close if not more than those 2 also.

Precursors weapons will 9/10 stay ahead in price of all other Unique exotics in the game. Whisper blade is on tp for 150g and seems to be selling the low Immobuls for 125g sold or was pulled there where 5 now there are 2 priced at 155g last I checked the 145g probably sold since I dont see it listed anymore.

I pay attention to all the exotic weapons the uniques and the precursors. In my opinion there really isnt anything to be done. I think whoever had all the dusks doesn’t have them anymore.

I poster on guru said he bought up a few low dusks and flipped them to higher price. If you notice when there are more dusks available the lower the price. When there are less the higher. Im sure you realize this is supply and demand. Its not just effecting precursors.

Khilbons Armor set for Light armor exotic. 3 days ago was 77g for the whole set lowest piece was the top at 6g cause there was 22 available.

Now more supply hit the tp you can get it all for 43g.

Basically Precursors are the top of the line the ferrari of weapons if you will. At least perceived that way by many people. Also there arent a ton of them and you can’t craft them yourselves. So they will always be higher than exotics.

Valkerye destroyer greatsword I got mine for 28g its 50g now on the tp. So unique exotics rise in price as materials rise in price so then Precursors rise in price.

Whisper blade was listed above zap 3 days ago. Didnt last long Zap shot up 90g more than whisper. Now if Im a seller of a precursor Im thinking to myself I have Zap listed at 120g and jormags breath is listed at 100g I am going to raise the price. Of course Zap is way more than 20g above jormags breath.

While I think you have many valid points I do not agree with your bottom one. If other exotics are going for a rate comparable to a precursor that does not mean the value of a precursor does or should increase.

There is absolutely nothing desirable or special about a precursor in most cases other than it leads to a legendary. Most precursors look horrible & for many they are less desirable than a normal exotic simply because players know they will have to throw another 400-500g + hundreds of hours of time into the recipe just to make it into a legendary “especially” with all the new MF 100% chance recipes that are being discovered that look amazing & many are comparable to a legendary without the grind.

Thats why the price is high. Precursor =/= legendary but people think it does. Many people obsess over the precursor without thinking about all the other things you have to worry about. Clovers are the worst part of precursors in my opinion I think anyone who hasn’t started working on a legendary doesn’t realize it. They just want the precursor first then start working more on legendary.

Its not like people want to run around with the precursor I think they just want it as the validation to start working more intensely on completing a legendary. This is just my opinion really. On my server I do see alot of people that don’t have a precursor but are working on their legendary.

A guy with bolt posted on guru saying that they adjusted bolt so the buzzing is only about 2 seconds when you draw it out and goes away. Also the slashing effects have changed also. He says its much better than before.

Don’t agree at all. I don’t know how much you watch the Trading Post. Infinite Light hit the trading post for 555g about a week ago I think. It was gone a few hours later.

Volcanus has yet to hit the TP and costs about as much as Infinite light if all mats are bought I think the lightning hammer is close if not more than those 2 also.

Precursors weapons will 9/10 stay ahead in price of all other Unique exotics in the game. Whisper blade is on tp for 150g and seems to be selling the low Immobuls for 125g sold or was pulled there where 5 now there are 2 priced at 155g last I checked the 145g probably sold since I dont see it listed anymore.

I pay attention to all the exotic weapons the uniques and the precursors. In my opinion there really isnt anything to be done. I think whoever had all the dusks doesn’t have them anymore.

I poster on guru said he bought up a few low dusks and flipped them to higher price. If you notice when there are more dusks available the lower the price. When there are less the higher. Im sure you realize this is supply and demand. Its not just effecting precursors.

Khilbons Armor set for Light armor exotic. 3 days ago was 77g for the whole set lowest piece was the top at 6g cause there was 22 available.

Now more supply hit the tp you can get it all for 43g.

Basically Precursors are the top of the line the ferrari of weapons if you will. At least perceived that way by many people. Also there arent a ton of them and you can’t craft them yourselves. So they will always be higher than exotics.

Valkerye destroyer greatsword I got mine for 28g its 50g now on the tp. So unique exotics rise in price as materials rise in price so then Precursors rise in price.

Whisper blade was listed above zap 3 days ago. Didnt last long Zap shot up 90g more than whisper. Now if Im a seller of a precursor Im thinking to myself I have Zap listed at 120g and jormags breath is listed at 100g I am going to raise the price. Of course Zap is way more than 20g above jormags breath.

opened 15 chests GS skin 2 1h sword skins.

Sold at 65g for the GS skin

and 11g a piece for 1h sword skins

:)

is it me or is staff auto attack flying faster now? im sure it is or my eyes are messed up

bombastinator.8965:

I just attempted to sell a lv 50 rare to handed sword. I put a price on it north of 16 silver, and got 3.02 back.

The market manipulation is that bad.

It appears I am literally locked out of the economy, and as such the high levels of the game. Getting the high level items by sheer farming is effectively impossible.

The only people happy with the TP are those that abused it. As far as I am concerned the TP is too broken to be used.

Doomsayer much?

How are you locked out of the high levels of the game cause you cant wear the armor or weapon you think looks the best? Are you even at the high levels of the game?

You don’t have to buy anything from the tp. Just run the dungeons all the stat combinations are in the dungeons only thing you could miss out on is some runes for your armor but you can get some majors or minors until you can afford the Superiors and you get money from either farming cursed or running dungeons.

Where do these people come from. Hyperbole

closed again on Ebay

Open on ehrmy bay just opened 5 minutes ago

treborIRL.4521:

precursor for 50g?? lol WHERE? everything on my server is 100g+ or even 200g+

Cause its not like the trading post is world wide wait it is. The water weapon precursors go for like 50g have been for a while.

Knote.2904:

Duelist by far the best.

Warden can come in second but it’s situational.

Duelist is also a 100% projectile x8 finisher. So Duelist + Chaos Field = 8x confusion.

And can maintain about 5-7 stacks of bleeding.

I thought Duelist is 20% chance for projectile finisher. Im pretty sure it is. have to look at tool tip again.

To the OP i would say duelist is but berzerker is no slouch it really all depends on your crit chance if your talking bleeds.

Fildydarie.1496:

I’m not suggeting I don’t have a problem with the high concentration of players at certain chains, I find it quite irritating, especially since most are probably bots.

I do feel compelled to play devil’s advocate for a moment, though.

With DR being what it is on loot, these people are pretty clearly in it for the karma. Maybe the coin, too, but mostly karma. Why? Legendary hunting. Once they all get legendaries (making them all unique snowflakes that are identical to each other and no better than anyone else, possibly worse because of the lack of actual practice) they will do what? Farm more karma? Hang out in town to show out how awesome they are? Start actually playing the game?

I don’t know the answers, but the problem might just solve itself when these players are ready to move on.

Thats not devil’s advocate. That you worried about how others play the game. Some people like or don’t mind some grind. Some people hate it. Then you go on to project on others why they are getting legendaries lol.

Maybe some are getting it because that is their “End game” In the end who cares. I run cursed shore alot and if you take the time to talk to people you will find alot of them are there for Karma yes. Though many are not there for legendaries.

Many players have wised up and realized they can get there tier 3 exotic armors from the karma vendors so they are farming that. So not everyone at cursed trying to be you know that snowflake. Jormag give you like the same karma for 1 part of Pinx yea Ill go run and do jor if I want to change it up.

Like someone else said no matter what anet does people will find the most efficient place to go that they can get their rewards the fastest. The only way to fix it is to make every DE like plinx. Basically plinx area is the model for all the DE’s if a change is to come.

If there is a change and all DE’s are popping out karma like plinx here is what will happen. People will go where the mobs are easiest to kill, travel distance is the shortest time. Some how some way a chain will be min/maxed and it will still have a high concentration of players once a youtube vid is made. In the end nobody is forced to do anything in GW2. So if people want to grind plinx they can if they want it fast. If they arent worried about speed they can go DE’s in queensdale that they missed or Grenth temple.

Tried to open didnt happen. Ehmry Bay

according to gw2db the 3D pic it’s the same skin as llya but don’t know if it has particle effects or not because the 3D model doesnt show those most of the time like llya 3D pick is just the same as lyss. Was one on tp yesterday must have sold already.

attempting to open it right now on ehrmy bay will update

I think preview feature will shake up the TP a bit. Right now alot of people dont know whats out there so they don’t want to take the risk on it.

I see it on the TP I think new addition as I never seen it before Tried looking on the net for it but couldnt find anything going for 99g anyone have any idea what it looks like?

Jaga.2084:

I play Mesmer. In those Zerg Events I get Bronze at best. Usually nothing. It’s AOE or die. Most of the times I can’t even spawn an Illusion before the Mob is dead. Orr is terrible for me, because once an event shows up, the Zerg comes. If I’m lucky I get a few kills before the AOE-Fest starts. I thought I would be nice not to compete with other players in a MMO, but that’s just wrong. The competition works just different.

Then your playing bad. I run plinx, arena all the time. Its easy to get gold in most of them. Only time I get silver or bronze is after landing zone and I go run and help pull brood mother or do tars. Its only about a 40 point diff in karma for a silver easily made up by the fact I tagged tar and got gold.

You have to have a staff if your doing DE’s with alot of people. I dont like staff much but its pretty much a must for the chaos storm. Also Sword/whatever is good focus GS is good to. If your not shattering your clones in the pile of risen then your not going to get loot.

GS skill 2 immediate shatter after contact and you have aoe. Dodge roll into pile of mobs F1 or F2 aoe done.

Mesmer isnt a aoe class which should be obvious if you played to 80. Aoe is shatters, chaos storm and Warden bezerker also thats pretty much it.

Just run in tag mobs with 1 on 1h sword. Blurred if its up. Warden if its up, bezerker.

The only problem is loot drops but you can still do ok. Just not as good as thieves or warriors spinning attacks. Save chaos for next spawn of big mobs dont waste it on 1 target or a veteran whatever. Just hit it with a auto or something cause if its alot of people its going to die fast anyway.

From what I have read you can transmute yes. It will lose the purple legendary name but everything else will remain the same like the effects. The stats of course will change to what you choose.

There is a reason the conversion is high people are holding on to their gems.

azurrei.5691:

Snow.5269:

Now before I begin this is not meant as a jab against Lindsey Murdock for coining the phrase RNG is “fun & exciting” but rather to show one users reaction after attempting to create a precursor using 28 exotic greatswords.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANpCfCB2ENk

Imagine how the players who have thrown 1000+ rares into the Mystic Forge in hopes of creating a precursor & have come out empty handed feel.

“Its meant to be legendary & hard to obtain”

It is. The karma & material requirements are already a massive undertaking even without the precursor. If you think farming for 8+ hours a day for 1-2 months straight for a single weapon skin is not substantial well then I would question ones priorities.

Precursors need to be made available via a vendor/recipe. One suggestion would be to require players to exchange 500 tokens from every dungeon. That at the very least requires some effort. Not just another gold sink.

That idea sounds great to me – would cut down on the ability to “buy” a legendary. Right now if you have the RL $$$, it takes very little work relatively speaking to make a legendary.

What? 1mil karma farming is a pain in the butt!. Sounds like you havent tried it yet. Unless you planned ahead there is no way you say hey I have the money Im going to buy a precursor.

You still have crap you have to collect.

Just looked at spirit links and then anomaly hmmm Anomaly is very nice. Would attract alot of attention.

Oooo Spirit links are indeed a Illusionary Weapon. just checked in game simple design but looks nice and not bulky like other focuses and has that glow effect of illusionary weapons.

Thats why it costs 60g I was wondering that. I stand corrected. They really need to get that preview feature for the TP going. I had no idea.

That means there is a possibility of the Staff out there.

Spirit Links is a illusionary focus? There is no illusionary focus im not buying.

Spirit Links are chains. Let me go check in game 1 sec brb.

Phantasmal Defender: Shield = Wall of the Mists

Warlock has a scepter not a staff I don’t think there is a Staff.

Downed state 3 spell is a Theif with Dagger illusionary Rogue.

My guess is Plinx, Arena, Tar, Meddlers, Jofast, Shelters those are where most high level players on my server are at now. Doing the DE chains since they pop so fast and cater to what you need quickly.

Plinx,Arena,Tar, Brood, Abom Karma farm and the other for loot/rare drops/money.

Non Exotic Precursor Volcanus will run you 200g-300g to make. It uses a gift so its expensive. Foe Fire Same thing the bow will probably require the same thing also.

As demand is right now Precursor> Unique exotics

Unique Exotics are priced at what it would cost you to purchase all mats and craft yourself + some over head for profit because Skill points = time/labor to some.

As long as mats for unique exotics cause the exotic to cost close to 100g or more to craft then precursors will be priced higher than those if they are the high demand ones.

It makes sense to me.

BMW creates a car with same specs and materials as Ford or Chevy. Simple BMW brand has prestige tied to it. BMW sells car for 10-15 or even 20 grand more than Ford people still buy it cause its a BMW.

Sony Vizio expensive computer for whats inside but its Sony Vizio so it sells that high.

Alienware etc. etc.

I think its both if you transmutate the stats from the exotic to the legendary then it most definitely will become exotic since that section determines the rarity of the item. It will say transmuted I am sure. I think only time it doesn’t say transmutated is if you just take the sigil.

What I was told is that your sword or whatever your making keeps all its effects it will just become exotic because of how the transtones work so no more purple. It will still be legendary imo cause the stats for legendaries aren’t to hot imo.

Any servers have it open right now?

Mywad.7954:

Please could we have a timestamp or some way of sorting sold items into different order.

Its painful to have something sell and not know what sold without keeping a hand written note of every single order etc, simply fix would be last item sold shows first in list. Even better a timestamp and more ways to sort transactions.

We need more options please

Isnt there a items sold tab? It tells you how many hours ago it sold or your looking for something more?

bantapoo.1093:

stupid question: can destroyer and molten cores/lodestones drop off regular mobs? and where?

Embers I got a Molten Core Farming Karma on cursed shore yesterday at arena event. Probably anything with with fire can drop it. I know for sure embers do drop them. Embers=Fire Gargoyle things that elementalists can summons. Tons of them In FireHeart Rise area.

Probably a new farm location.