Guild Wars 2

Wait So chilli pepper have been stable since launch and during that hour there was a spike almost 3 months later?

You really got them with this one

You really reached with this one its really obvious. Sorry this is bad OP and makes you look like you have no clue just being honest. Strawberries and Chili peppers have 1 spike since august.

Agree with Tristan on this one. Crafting in game is to help you sustain to someone just playing casually. If you go a bit more indepth you can see there are things that sell and quick and require you to spend maybe 30 minutes gathering for free is a guranteed gold.

I undertand the idea behind this I am not saying its bad at all. It would totally tank all the lodestone markets with out a doubt. I feel to 50s range eventually closing in on 20-30s.

The first monthish the price on lodestones would go down if something like this was announced but stabilize. Then I think it would just bottom out. After say 90 like lone suggests everyone and their cat will be selling them or trying to. Also all the runes that use them would drop in price too. Essentially making them like Ancient Bones

lackofcheese.5617:

Those numbers are simply wrong. First of all, the evidence I’ve seen suggests the chance of a precursor is closer to 0.1% than 0.01%. Secondly, you get exotics ~20% of the time when forging rares; selling those exotics also plays a role in offsetting the costs.

All in all, something like 300g is a much more realistic figure for the average cost to forge a precursor.

Yea cheese is correct if you look at any of the Precursor R&D threads those are the correct numbers.

You have to sell the exotics back don’t throw them in the forge. I don’t know why people don’t get that. Sometimes you make your money back on the first few.

I dont see the food for thought at all. How do you know the securty system Is even legit and not just some banner they put together? Regardless of how they operate the 3rd party site its still against TOS. If you don’t value the possibility of being banned then there is nothing Anet can do to change that at all. Regardless if the 3rd party site was just full of bells and whistles.

Morality, Ethics, and sense of fairness is something that Arena net can’t program into people.

yea agreed 250 total skill points is worth more than 50g. Anomly is like one of the best looking focus in the game if not the best if you havent seen the skin it will make you stand out for sure. I’d say 150g-180g partly because the other focus just arent close to it.

Sounds like it might be safe then. Thanks for info I will still hold off until I can get confirm from someone that did it.

Gold seller sights have a very high risk of identity theft extremely high. Anet has spoken on botting you know they just talked about it like a day ago. Your overreacting honestly. If you read the statement it makes sense.

Anet has a system coming online to improve beating the bots. They don’t want to however jump the gun and ban a ton of legit players then have to drag those people through a possibly lengthy reinstatement process. So that is why they are treading slowly testing this new anti botting software.

Makes sense to me. You wan them to go rambo it sounds like. They are doing it the smart way. Stop being impatient and saying the sky is falling.

@snow you know alot about how they operate don’t you? So that is the dusk precursor game in a nutshell? Can’t be.

I made colossus last night in the forge not even trying just doing my weekly gamble of 6g. As soon as I made it I sold it on the tp there was only 1 other one at 400g. I sold mine for 365g and turned around and bought dusk at 335g right away.

That was 2 precursors I touched last night. I wasnt even trying to get colosssus as I was in process of working on Bolt.

The low supply of precursors? Where is there a low supply of precursors?

Did you add up all the precursors or we just talking about the normal 3? Dusk, Dawn, Legend. There are more than just 3 precursors and every thread that talks about precursors alway revolves around just those 3 and it really kills the validity of any arguement because its not even factual.

50 Hammers level 76 rare hammers cheapest ones and got Colossus. Wasnt trying for a precursor just making exotics to sell.

Got it on 40th attempt

Immediately sold for 365g bought the 335g dusk on tp.

I know not to transmutate the actual weapon. I just want to confirm if its safe to swap the sigils. Cause i don’t really like rage sigil messing with my sigil fire procs. Though I can deal with it if I have to.

Just want a confirm on a sigil swap though messing with legendary crafting.

Was going to make another topic. I got colossus from forge sold and bought dusk from TP.

Just want to confirm if its safe to swap the sigil on the precursor? I know not to transmutate but just wondering about sigil. I dont want rage sigil messing up my cd on fire procs.

Yes I know its not illegal. I was referring to the TOS as Law as in ingame law set by Anet. Not actual law that goes to prosecution and results in jail time. Gotta specify more I suppose.

Walkerz.5830:

Although Anet has put out some awesome content for this halloween event, thanks btw its awesome, I have almost completely given up hope, nearly a month has passed since things were being “monitored” nothing has changed other than ppl stopped raising the price ONLY because they know they are being watched. With no further comments on whats going on with this issue and the price already as high as it is probably no turning back now..maybe they are just hoping it goes away?? lulz..

Where do you people get this idea that people stopped raising the prices because they know they are being watched?

Please show me? There are Dusks and Legends that are listed at 400g you know that right. Actually click the item next time or stop just looking at the top valued item on the front page. Which is a reflection of the highest buy order.

Foe fire essence is like 500g or close to on the TP. you think the guy listing it is worried about Anet adjusting his price.

Speculation nothing more

Average price of precursor weapons is about 234g thats not even adding in the spear or the trident or the torch which would make it lower.

Sure they aren’t popular but it doesn’t change the fact that when you look at the whole picture which Arena net has to do as a company. It looks different than when you stop having on Dawn, Dusk, Legend tunnel vision when it comes to precursor prices.

I will take a stab at this one.

1. If your aware of it I’m sure A-Net is aware. (remember those sites come with very high risk of identity theft not sure why people keep bringing them up like they are walmart or something)

2. They won’t tell you that stop being impatient wait for it to come. The context of the November update was in response to people with outage issues mostly due to Hurricane Sandy wanting to enjoy the halloween event.

3. 3 is basically the same question as 2 1 is gamble 1 is guaranteed at fixed price but thats your choice.

4. Your Endgame is legendaries. A-Net never said legendaries are end game. Quote please? Source link something

5. You know there is thing called press releases that will tell you about updates. You know like PC gamer had the preview for the Halloween event. Come on I know you know this right?

6. Thats like the only good question.

7. I am sure Arena Net will definitely discuss the terms of other players accounts openly with the community. Who is to say they havent been banned. Some one in another thread said they where.

Valid questions true probably with good intentions. With really obvious answers for the most part and anyone that has played video games longer than 2 weeks knows wont get answered.

Ceronose.6019:

oZii.2864:

Bravo Mr Smith. Terrible that people can’t wrap their heads around the idea of doing something against the TOS is essence illegal in that games laws. Also you aren’t forced to buy gold its just shows people impatience and ignorance in my opinion because none of this is forced upon you to play the game.

Yeah….I think your the ignorant one here that can’t get my point.

Lmao backtracking now are we. Now your point has to do something with your friend and how your friend ruined your fun? You first post mentions nothing of your friend what so ever. Now you get called out and go victim route because someone else is ruining your fun?

How is he even messing your fun up? Are you jealous just because he is running around with some cool weapons and armor that you want? Thats the only way you can have ruined fun from someone else having more money than you in this game.

You don’t have to have it!!! You just want it.

Him running around with twilight wont stop you from killing jormag will? He isnt doing more damage than you because he has twilight.

You know for a fact he is getting gold against the TOS I just don’t see how that ruins your fun. Stop worrying about other people so much that is what the problem is. The way this game is set up you shouldn’t have to worry about other people because they really don’t effect you.

People aren’t being excluded from dungeon runs because they don’t have a big bank account. People aren’t linking there gold in map chat.

There are no instances that block you because you aren’t carrying a legendary and 50 gold on you.

That addresses your new made up second point that wasn’t in your first post at all.

Bravo Mr Smith. Terrible that people can’t wrap their heads around the idea of doing something against the TOS is essence illegal in that games laws. Also you aren’t forced to buy gold its just shows people impatience and ignorance in my opinion because none of this is forced upon you to play the game.

Hippocampus.8470:

Ulquiorra.6903:

ChairGraveyard.2967:

I don’t have any love for the Godskull cheaters, so I think this is a great idea.

what does godskull have to do with the valid opposition made on this thread???

Didn’t you know? Anyone who has more than you in GW2 must have gotten it through the Godskull exploit. There’s just no other explanation at all!

Honestly I think people that keep saying this don’t even know the story or read the article they are going off hearsay even though you can find it on the internet.

1 guy on guru posted saying he found a way to make it higher chance to obtain dusk. It worked more often getting dusk than dawn.

It got fixed he bought all the dusks (which at the time was only 9 on the tp) He made alot of gold. Now Im sure there have been more then 9 dusks created since then which was like a month ago.

Nephele.5063:

helladoom.4317:

It’s not clear what we (group of some 6 to 8 players) are doing wrong. Several waves of risen spawn at several points along the way, we kill them as quickly as possible, and then the mission fails.

The event chain is designed for 50+ players. It’s pretty much impossible with less than 30, no matter how organized they are.

It scales Ive done it with 15 before. The extra champion doesnt spawn depending on how many people are there.

Sounds like it for sure.

ChairGraveyard.2967:

That’s a pretty terrible argument to use to claim the system is fine. Just because one precursor for a legendary weapon that no one wants is super low priced doesn’t actually mean the rest of the system is just fine.

I didn’t make a case for or against the system with my comment did I? I don’t recall doing that nope can’t say I did.

What I was pointing out is that people are going over board making outrageous sky is falling claims.

It is fact that average price of precursors is 230g-234g. So any statement that says precursors are almost 400g is in fact wrong and the sky isnt falling. Most of these threads are like that. Its being spoiled they want dusk, dawn, or the legend and they want it so bad and the people that support their views don’t look at the whole picture.

Also your reading wasn’t to good just had to jump in with a reply quick?

The warhorn, torch, pistol, scepter, trident, spear are ALL under 200g! Most of those i just listed are under 100g.

Solidor.4876:

Solidor.4876:

So, i got my Twilight yesterday and can’t transmute it. A reply from ANET would be great now.

Didn’t understand why they deleted my last post, but okay. I just want a reply from ANET about transmuting Legendary’s,

Cause you have it equipped. Unequip it then transmute it.

Average price of precursors is 224g thats with out adding the torch and water weapons which would lower that number more.

Perspective people perspective Precursors does not mean dusk and dawn only. Though dusk and dawn might be your obsession those are not the only ones they are popular so Im sure popularity also has something to do with their price.

But if you need a torch you can get one for 38g legendary and be world first because no one has made one as far as I know.

Average price for precursors is 224g thats not even adding in the torch and the water weapons which would make it lower.

Precursor =/= Dusk dawn or the legend.

Ooo a thread where someone paints a picture of how they are cornered and have no choice but indulge in a darker path. They are someone forced into a life of crime.

If TOS=Law buying from a GS would be breaking that law.

We need help quick this guy is on the verge of being a GW2 criminal. Him having alot of gold will totally ruin my experience in GW2 because he will haz more stuff than me. I will be jealous because he haz it first.

Oops I sound spoiled and so do you. No one is forcing you to do anything go ahead buy it from the GS run around with twilight it doesnt make or break me or anyone else. Eventually you will get banned and we can all move on. Also you don’t have to have alot of gold alot people want something you want somthing. You think the you need it. Your impatient.

Saying that anything currently in the game is forcing you to contemplate buying from a 3rd party makes you sound like a weak individual. No one is forcing you to do anything. Unless some is there threatening your life while you punch credit card numbers in. You aren’t required by any mission or quest what so ever in game to have alot of gold and or a legendary or whatever. Stop trying to keep up with the joneses or you can try and risk getting banned or your account hacked.

You can buy Zap for 200g go!!! You can get Quip for 135g!! go Oh wait Precursor = Dusk.

It really kind of shows how bad it is. Precursor topics all deal with 1 weapon Dusks price.

“OMG precursors have soared to over 400g.’

NO they havent if you take the average price of all the precursors its not over 400g.

Narkosys.5173:

Dont forget at least 40% of the pop bot so there is that issue. Anet doesnt care and wont do anything about the issue. Leads me to believe why bother going for a legendary.
You will only waste time and money and dont have a chance against the cheaters.
Anet needs to really start stepping up and looking after things before the legit people decide to stop playing all together.

Anet obviously don’t care about botters. Which is why they didn’t make a post about the new anti botting system thats coming online. Which has resulted in a bunch of bans already. Oh wait they did.

Then your counter will be well on my server I still see them farming cause your server is totally representative of the entire population of the game.

On my server I know when the halloween event came online I saw alot less bots running around actually none that first day. Just saying but the bots probably where doing the book scavenger hunt cause Anet didnt ban them cause they dont care.

Gotta be trolling. But here you go. Since you basically asked everything the wiki states which would require alot of writing.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Legendary

K enjoy knowledge!

What Icey said basically. Also you can’t be running plinx on cursed. You get that much from drops just vendor anything not yellow if its yellow sell on tp if it costs more than a ecto.

Charged lodestones are going back down at 2g right now. Lets see if they start going down more.

Also I would like to add that there is a Fresh Foe Fire’s Essence on the TP probably bought alot of lodestones. So lets see if the price drops now that they have their 100.

Nitas.4960:

I used the 10x recipe and I got 80 mystic clovers. Here is the list of my tries:
1. 11 ancient wood planks
2. 10 crystal lodestones
3. 20 obsidian shards
4. 10 mystic clovers
5. 25 piles of crystalline dust
6. 17 cured hardened leather squares
7. 13 orichalcum ingots
8. 10 mystic clovers
9. 10 mystic clovers
10. 28 elobrate totems
11. 11 vicious fang
12. 10 mystic clovers
13. 22 ancient wood planks
14. 10 mystic clovers
15. 10 mystic clovers
16. 22 vial of poweful blood
17. 22 vicious claws
18. 22 ancient bones
19. 10 mystic clovers
20. 10 mystic clovers

If you didnt need all that. That is a pretty good pile of money right there if you sold it on TP. Basically only costing you time.

I was actually thinking since I don’t need the T6 mats of just doing 10 recipes for clovers and hoping to fail of course to sell everything on the tp.

orci.5019:

I’ve used approximately 630k worth of karma on obsidian shards (so about 300 shards), and I am only at 58 clovers (using the 1x yield recipe). I’ve also gotten obsidian shards back from using this 1x recipe, so my actual number of attempts is higher than 300. For me, it’s been about a 20% chance, nowhere close to the fabled 33%.

Took me 360 shards to get my 77 mystic clovers it really is just individual luck. Best thing to do is go in with your mind set that you might need about 1mil karma all together.

Hey Im interested in seeing how this goes. Could you guys post results in here as far as your runs and how many cores you get? It would help the whole community get closer to determining the drop rate.

Nope the only thing they have said was about a month ago we are watching the prices and will take action if we feel it is necessary or something to that effect. That is last thing they have said on the subject

Skewjo.9243:

Can you direct me to this post? I cannot find any post stating that the only way to get your precursor is random drop from 4 rares/exotics. Perhaps some of these combinations are not so random?

Yea totally could have saved yourself the trouble. I don’t know how you missed that.

There are a a whole bunch of threads on Precursor R&D and the mystic forge. All kinds of numbers showing that it is truly random. I will say that you are the first I know or seen that did dungeon weapons so that does help.

Pretty much.

I was only playing the game. Then I saw people macking money from the Mini Game. So I started reading and understanding more about it.

Now I am hooked on the mini game and the game. lol I don’t have these kind of numbers. But finding something good to sell watching it move is good feeling. Taking a loss isnt lol.

Hasek.6807:

Legendar ywill cost you 300-600 g? Lol

The list of things needed for legendaries are getting so absurdly expensive. I’ve been steadily working my way towards Twilight.

I still need a precurser (350-400g), Onyx Lodestones (100 costs around 165g now), 100 icy rune stones 100g together with the recipes and the other mat.

I am not, and never will say, it should be easy, but seriously. The time it would take you to farm this lets say 8-900g is just.. I mean… I thouhgt.. I’m speechless!

Tbh these prices are encouraging 3rd party gold buying, sad sad sad state of things atm!.

First mover alfa/beta players had such a kittendedly huge advantage!

The encouraging 3rd party gold buying is weak and is a sign of weakness. Ferrari isnt encouraging people to go to the chop shop when they price their cars neither is bmw or any automotive dealer.

If anyone goes 3rd party they would have done it anyway or bought the gems from the store. and converted which ever gave them bang for buck. 1 path will eventually lead to banning it has risks and they know those risks. It doesnt even give them unfair advantage statistically it just makes them look cool until they get banned, or hacked.

The price is right now dusk and the legend have gone up they are the most popular Legendaries With Dawn close behind. All the other legendariy precursors are dropping. I saw Zap hit 205g for about a hour of course it was scooped up and placed at 235g but last week it was 285g.

Right now a few of the precursors wont jump above 250g because there is supply. 13 zaps last I saw. When that goes does Zap goes up.

You lose the purple name and the item will say exotic it will also take on the name of hte sigil. Like bitfrost of X

Effects stay. Only thing you can do is swap the sigil and that doesnt effect anyway.

I don’t have my legendary yet but the search function is powerful cause this has been asked like a lot.

Regarding Sigils I was doing some looking around and there is a really good write up on Superior sigil of fire on reddit and a few other sigils.

I’m condi spec so I run precision, toughness, and condition damage full exotic, Khilbon set. I have 55% crit chance 58% when I’m running sword/focus with sword traited.

Sword/Pistol setup is Superior sigil of fire/Superior Sigil of force for +5% all outgoing damage. Which includes when fire procs. So far I am loving it alot. I have the stacking sigil set up on my scepter for condi damage and my other sword but right now I don’t think I need it.

I would say fire for sure since we do lack a bit in the aoe department. Fire helps that. It will proc from your shatters also. I run staff for pve and put it on my staff and it really makes staff better imo as I really dont like staff that much but adding that has made me like it a bit more cause it will proc from chaos storm pretty often also with bounce from auto attack gives more chances from 1200 range.

I don’t really like the swap sigil because all sigil icd affects the others. So if you have say Swap for poison or life steal and its 9 sec cd it will effect the cooldown of fires 5 sec basically making it so that you can’t proc the fire for 9 seconds. So that is something to consider.

Turimbar.2108:

oZii.2864:

I was thinking this suggestion over and I am not sure if it is actually a good idea. Maybe if they stealth upped the drop rate then that would be better.

If they where to do this change it would really hurt the economy.

I honestly think certain lodestones are higher because of recipes and the fact that you need so many. The tp hardly ever has 1000+ available of any lodestone except glacial which is why its only like 60s.

Corrupted lodestones use to be 1g+ they are down to 70s and falling everyday. When more lodestones of X type hit the market the prices go down.

Also by doing something like this will upset alot of sellers because basically the market would be flooded with them and they would lose money at the price that they have listed and all the time they farmed those stones to place on the tp for profit would be a loss.

I dont know I think it has to be more carefully thought of than just hey here is lodestones for tokens. The idea is ok but its more to it than just making sure that it takes time to do it. You have to think about people that have invested in and are selling lodestones for profit also.

You can get atleast 5g a day running plinx on cursed shore and just buy them of the tp put in the buy offer instead of buying them outright. Its kind of like lay away and its the smarter thing to do. Alot of people selling the lodestones don’t want to compete with undercutting and want their money quick so buy offers get filled quite often. Also if someone bids higher than you it costs you nothing to adjust your offer as in no tax.

So there is already a grind to get the money to get the lodestones you want its cursed shore all while getting karma (more than even the new karma rewards for dungeons) rares to salvage for ecto’s. Etc really cursed is the place to be for level 80 its free money.

This is a very well thought post, I like the input here.

A couple of counter thoughts.

Also by doing something like this will upset alot of sellers because basically the market would be flooded with them and they would lose money at the price that they have listed and all the time they farmed those stones to place on the tp for profit would be a loss.

This is an interesting point, I would personally say that this is not a good reason to refrain from adding this as I believe that Anet has NO duty to assure that any player’s market strategy remains profitable.
Anet has a duty to make the game fun, and make money, that is all.

Second, and relevant to the above post, you mentioned how you can farm 5g a day from Plinx, and buy the tokens. Which is true, and a solid, solid strategy.
However, myself, and undoubtedly other players, ENJOY running the dungeons and would like to see those lodestones there as a matter of a rewards.

Bear in mind, we’d only be able to realistically get ONE type of lodestone per day due to the diminishing returns.

In closing, I’d still like to see this implemented, I feel it would add a great level of diversity to the path to creating Cool New Shinies.

Very good point and I do agree that Anet doesn’t have to do anything they don’t want but it would upset alot of people. Which I’m sure is something they don’t want. In my opinion doing something like this is more of a wave than a ripple thats why I think maybe stealth upping the drop rate would be better.

No one would know right away but eventually people would catch on that they seem to be dropping more.

What I was saying in my post about 2 posts above is that. Also people have real world money tied into the game. You can’t forget the people that buy gems with real money maybe someone only bought $10 worth of gems to get his GW2 business up and running and has been flipping it since the beginning. Customers like that would be upset if they invested in the lodestones to make profit and then had to take on a loss. Of course they assume risk in doing so and nothing is guaranteed on the TP. That is something Anet would have to think about though.

At the end of the day we are talking about really cosmetic items, some people farm them, some people buy them with real money and real dollars converting purchased gems to gold. It isnt as simple implementing a change in a game that doesn’t micro transactions. This one does so you have to tread carefully when you make adjustments in section where people could have real world money invested.

We aren’t talking about a balance change, or exploit fix its purchasable cosmetic items.

Delolith.9645:

What the title says. Sometimes when you unseath Bolt it doesn’t show the body lightning. Just the lightning on the blade.

Needs fixing cause it is rather anticlimax.

You wrote this in panic? This is the crafting forums.

Who is abusing the TP? Thats a new one making money on the TP is abusing it now?

Going with the victim approach? People not playing the game the way you would play it are bad bad people I’m guessing? Cause they are doing it wrong?

I don’t even know what to say to that one.

I have sold lodestones on the TP taking cores and promoting to Lodestones. Most I have ever had up is 6 so your saying Anet should not consider my investment before making a change even though mine investment is small and there are others who invested more than I have.

Just wipe the slate clean huh total wipe? Cause there isn’t real dollars in the tp at all cause no one has bought gems with real money and converted them to gold to purchase the things they want right? Maybe using that real money to start there online business up and selling lodestones or other goods? That hasn’t happened in the 3 months the game has been out.

Yea don’t need to even think about people who spent real money to get off the ground. Nope gotta worry about those “Normal” people.

Not really cause you know halloween event? How did you do in the clock tower? You get any of the new skins just added cause legendaries are skins and so is the chainsaw greatsword. So you’ve already participated in Act 3 and 4 that no one else has? (insert halloween doesn’t interest me response) Tried those new mad king runes Anet just added? You know there is a big content update coming out in november right? Yup legendaries are the only thing to do in this game.

Its an excuse the bottom line is you want it. You want something that is not required or demanded of you. That is the problem with all these legendaries thread the game has been out 3 months and already had a semi content update with this halloween event adding new items and content.

Content update coming in November. I think people want something to call endgame so they can say they are top of the food chain. I just don’t get it.

Legendaries are there a few have them now. 100g he could have put together jormags breath for 65g and sold it for 100g+ or been one of the rare few that had the icy dragon sword. I don’t even see people running around with the unique exotics that look great and that cost 1/3 of a legendary.

Natural.7013:

Charged cores are now 1gold 18 silver. Someone is buying all the lodestones and cores then putting only some of the supply back up at double prices. Good luck with that. Glad I have my hundred, just think making it so this could cost over 200gold for someone is a microcosm of what is wrong with this game.

Gold sink, Limit Gold farming, those without 10 hours a day to farm Plinx the only viable method to getting gold along with TP transactions which takes money to make money. Outside of that buy gems and convert to gold or go Chinese. I know many who bought from the gold farmers because of this setup. I myself will not as I feel I will support the exploitation of children if I do.

1. Fix crafting to where it’s even worth being 400 and you could make some money from it.
2. Make it so people can actually make some money in the world without having to grind plinx 24/7
3. Make it so drops like lodestone varieties are even across the board.

You can make money from crafting at 400 if you know what to sell I mean how hard is it to go grab some ori and some ancient wood every server has maps for spawns. All it takes is some time. I’m 400 weaponsmith and I sell rare greatswords all the time cause people like to chuck them in the forge.

If people don’t buy them then they go down in price more supply they go down in price. I understand your argument about the drop rate I get it. Make it easier for people to obtain them so they won’t have to buy them at overcharged prices.

Still its supply and demand. If people are buying them at that price there is nothing that can be done about it.

http://www.gw2db.com/trading-post/19759-charged-lodestone-s#trading-post:availability

looking at this it looks to me demand is far exceeding supply since the game came out. Plus the weapons its used in

Aether 100 charged lodestones

Foefires Power/Essence both 100 charged lodestones

Bolt 100 charged lodestones

Infinite light 250 charged lodestones

Mjonr 250 charged lodestones

Sunrise 100 charged lodestones.

Those some of the best looking weapons in the game.

Only other lodestone that comes close to that

Is onyx which 100 for gift of stealth, darkness, history thats it. That is why there is never any around because its used in so many weapons and new weapons with effects that people want/like.

Natural.7013:

Did you not understand the part about increase their drop rate? Did you not see the part about how it the drop rate from sparks is super rare or from CoE because no one wants to go there. Compared to other legendary lodestones that cost silver due to they are easier to get, these are at a ridiculous level. This wasn’t a post saying please make them cheaper even though the supply was lower then the others. THAT is the problem.

TL/DR the price will never go down because people hardly run COE and they have the lowest of the drop rates of any lodestones when it comes to farming mobs(Which gets the nice DR on top of everything else btw). The game is one big gold sink while simultaneously limiting people from farming. That really helps the gold farmers in and of itself in the end.

Did you not see that there is where only 170 available? Compared to the other lodestones? Do you really think people arent farming charged lodestone in say Coe AND Cursed shore!

Cathedral of Zephyrs in Malchor’s Leap is under player/allied control, Sparks will spawn.

Cause they don’t only spawn in CoE. I’d be willing to bet that the drop rate for lodestones is the same across the board and that Charged lodestones arent just a special case.

Magumma Been sitting around waiting for this event with the cannon dude. Nothing is happening I cant click the cannon. he isnt loading cows. Nothing is happening been like 30 minutes. I shouldnt have to do an event for a vista its a vista make it like the rest of them. Where i jump on some stuff. I cant even describe the frustration cause I don’t understand.

What possessed them to make some offshoot dumb vista like this one that doesnt fit the other vistas. Yea im raging right now.

Edit cause I dont know why it takes so long for reply to refresh on these forums after I log in.

Charged lodestones are 2g12s97c with 170 available. Which is not enough to craft the unique exotics. There is a stack of 45 at 2g20 silver that person is not about to relist because there are only about 18 total lodestones ahead of him.

You know any weapons that only need 18 charged lodestones? I know I don’t and don’t see any on the wiki either.

If someone with alot of money and is impatient wants there 250 charged lodestone for the lightning hammer they wont even have enough to craft it.

TL/DR

The price will go down when there is more available.

Cause they are popular. Did you even look at how many are available? I can’t believe you did cause you would not have posted at all.

Last I looked it was only 68 available. So what your seeing is people that already had there lodestones on the market at that price before they rose because everyone underneath them sold out. See how that works?

There might be a few exception sure but for the most part if someone listed 20 charged at about 1.94 gold they are not about to re-list it when they sell out faster than people can stock them.

You look at glacial lodestones or corrupted lodestones? Corrupted lodestone are in the 60s range now. 2 weeks ago they where still hovering around 1g know why no new hype recipes and there are 1000+ of them available.

You gotta do some research before crying wolf man. Watch the TP more often for what your shopping for.

Here is what we do ok. Go mark down the price RIGHT NOW and available. Now when there is more available watch the price drop and it will because people are impatient and want their money quick and people hate dealing with undercutting which always happens.

Now come back when the avail number goes up and tell us again about how the prices are going down.

lackofcheese.5617:

While I agree with the general idea, I’m not particularly convinced of your numbers (if I was, I’d probably be investing in precursor production right now).

The 20% chance of an exotic is indeed well established, and it means that you get 1 random exotic for every 16 rares you invest in (as compared to 1 random exotic for 4 exotics). This would indeed suggest that it’s better to sell an exotic if you can make more than 4 rares for the price you sell it for, but that’s dependent on the assumption that the distribution for exotics coming out doesn’t depend on whether you put rares or exotics in. Linsey’s statement in the stickied thread casts significant doubt on this.

I do still agree that it’s very likely better to put rares in than exotics, but 1% chance to hit a precursor (conditional on getting an exotic) is not the figure I would use. The best sample I’ve seen is someone who did 3318 combines, with 654 exotics, 4 Dusks, and 0 Dawns (see here), which is a 0.6% chance.

Current prices would mean ~15s per rare, so ~2.4g per random exotic you make; the EV of a random exotic with a 0.6% chance of a Dusk would be closer to 3.7g. As such, while I do still agree that the net expected profit would likely be above 20%, the risk premium is not enough to justify it unless you’re exceedingly rich to begin with. If I had (or was controlling a guild with) upwards of 10,000 gold, then precursors would be something to consider.

Would you say its better to throw in 4 random rares as opposed to throwing in 4 random rare greatswords.

I have been doing this like 1 time a week and I usually make profit. I buy about 50 level 80 focuses at 13s and whatever else is bottom barrell ensuring that I don’t put in 4 of the same type I’m even using spears and water weapons.

I then chuck them in the forge and have come out with pretty good results some days its a loss but the times I have done it most have been profit. I don’t have any numbers but is usually 1.5-2g for each 50 stack of rares I grab.

Coming out with Eir Bow which at the time was selling for 14g I immediatly made my money back and then some. As I got 3 other exotics that sell at 3-4g a piece.

The problem that many people have is they rechuck the exotics in the forge. Then they are basically all in.

I kind of agree with what the op is saying after reading it. Yes its been said a ton of time. Yes the way Anet is doing is different. Is RNG involved yea but people say they hate the RNG because they don’t like the drop rate. The the 12 dusks (which is what everyone focuses on) are not the only 12 dusks that have ever appeared on the TP.

If there was 50 dusks on the TP I would think everyone is going to have one of those.

Its a skin thats what makes this process different the other games. Your grinding for cosmetics. Other games your grinding for cosmetics and better stats to squeeze out your min/max so you are reading for the next tier. Thats not the case here..

From looking at the market I think its going to only get easier to chuck rares in the forge. The player base is getting richer. I mean you really don’t have to spend any money from 1-80 if you did thats on you. So you need to find a way to make money and there are several. Your just not flipping 25s into 5g off 1 item. I think its impatience imo. People want it now, now, now.

You have 2 ways to get a precursor from a Drop and From the forge. Its a drop off of anything basically on cursed shore. I saw a post where someone said it dropped in wvw from a player in a loot bag. So if that is true Anet has made it so basically anything in a lets say 78-80 zone can drop a precursor so I can understand the drop rate being low because basically everytime you kill something you have a chance to get a precursor or any other exotic.

If you could get it from 1 type of enemy people would farm it on end. I don’t know I see it as as skin with effects and not necessary its just people want it. Being upset about a item that does nothing but make you look cooler doesn’t make sense to me either.

If I had to have a legendary to do arah dungeon then I would be upset but I don’t i can run in with my level 78, krait slayer and do just fine.