Guild Wars 2

All pve ele builds: fire and air

Are you complaining about that as well?

pve: offensive support, good reflect damage ( with sig), good conjures wielder. Also easy to play in open world.
WwW: condi bunker overpowered for 1v1, trapper is decent, good in small scale roaming.
pvp: good close holder, decent support at mid.

Maybe you’re not alone in this thread and I was answering to Raiff. But that’s impossible since you must be the center of the world.

Lot of breakstuns, vigor, dodging weapon abilities, block, even stealth, soft cc, hard cc, protection…

Staff animations are boring, but the weapon itself is really powerful. It’s an utility weapon, with soft cc, condi transfer, and hard cc. What else do you want?

Since when does rangers have the worst survivability?

Kain Francois.4328:

FGS needed a nerf, don’t get me wrong. It’s seriously game-breaking, and anyone who doesn’t think so, clearly has no sense of game balance.

That said, we can safely assume Ice Bow will take over. REN guild is already looking into tactics besides Fiery Greatsword, and the future looks bright.

Yeah, and we’ll see far more norns in dungeons, wich is nice.

synk.8762:

Ashym conjures a wall behind the players and proceeds to FGS into it.

A dev read that, was afraid, and nerfed FGS just in case.

I usually don’t agree with Vee Wee but at least he makes me smile wich isn’t really the case of other posters. But I wonder why you would be detrimental to your team for your own fun. If you’re perfectly aware of turrets limitations in dungeons, you’re purposely making your own fun more important than the 4 other guys’ experience. It’s not like you’re forced to use meta or anything, but bringing the right utilities will save everyone’s day.

NovaanVerdiano.6174:

Silberfisch.3046:

I’m a little concerned about the guardian cahnges. Making formerly less useful utilities and the tomes more useful sounds nice. But will they do it by boosting them or will they nerf those actually useful so far instad, so that guardians end up with a bunch of mediocre stuff?
I might see things a little too bleak here, but I honestly wouldn’t put it past them.

*Removed wall of reflection.

Finally, we’ll be addressing the wall of reflection skill; we’ll make some usability improvements and tone down some of its unintended functionality.

meteornado isn’t even close. And any fgs is used by a teammate as well.

Also, since the overall party dps is lower, special buffs like banners will be less wanted. Depending on the nerf, engis may take the place of warriors. 2 eles+1 engi+ 1 thief+1 guard?

They said nothing about bear form, so there’s a little hope.

But yeah, it’s stupid.

Wow, I’m glad my ele is a norn. But this sucks.

Same, and I had some fun doing the first one with friends. 2nd was definitively too hardcore for me.

Super Adventure Box, a part of the first living story involving a lot of jumping in a 8-bit world. Some people hated it, some liked it, but it was greatly done.

If you think a mmo is balanced around solo and story wich is the easiest thing in the game you can complete naked and upleveled, that says a lot about your experience in balancing. Best solo classes in pve are eles and warrior, if by best we understand maximum dps and easiest self buffing.

Don’t range, it destroys the point of soloing and Belka reflects projectiles 20% of the time.

Just like other projectiles aoe in the game, the red circle gives you an approximation of where the aoe should hit. But since it’s also a seeking projectile, it’ll change its way to hit you. Watch the projectile and not the Aoe, and dodge when it comes near you.
Good luck with your solo.

You can’t really comment on a class at level 10. But yeah, mesmers are quite weak outside of roaming, and their leveling is the worst.

Well at least he’s not making a thread on the forum to whine, so i guess you’re pretty equal. I thought you had to be ooc to travel to hearth of the mists? Anyway, the point still stand, the guy has one more loading, and a queue if there’s any.

So you want to make mesmers useless in all pve content to promote build diversity? Mesmer portals are like the most high level strat we’re seeing now. Watch arah P3 record, or the new se P3 record. Portals are great, and nerfing them does nothing against fgs.

Oh, it’s in the double damag post. Then fgs is even higher.

You don’t understand. If he alt+F4, he’s still dead. The only thing he gained is another loading time and a queue.

1.4 is what you get unbuffed non crit.

Jerus.4350:

oxtred.7658:

Take a necro for boon strips, they have better single target dps.

Do they have enough boon strips to keep the robot completely unbuffed? That + positioning (though you could use LH) would be the reason I love mesmer in COE. Mesmer makes that Robot very easy, and that plus destroyer are the only ones you can’t FGS to death reliably (you can get robot sometimes but he likes to run away from walls if you try and depend on it). You very much don’t need the utility int he dungeon but I have to say I’m a big fan of Mesmer in there.

I need to test it in game when i’m back, but i had this idea of using a necro in a coe speedrun for P1. You have corrupt boon at first, then chain swirling winds, and then you can use either focus 5 or well of corruption. Then the minions can help doing the 5-0 console easily. I’m just not sure about how they perform with FGS and if that alone would make a necro useful. If it’s not a record, 4 eles+ 1 necro should be a fast run. Yeah, mesmers utilities are always nice to have, but since COE is just a single target burst dungeon, it’s the best place to use a necro. But again, I didn’t test it myself, it’s just an idea.

You still get loots, xp, wxp when a player you tagged alt+F4. Never bothered to check if it count as a player kill, but it should. And yes, the player will relog dead, with a queue if there’s any. I never understood why people did that, to be honest.

Edit: and name shaming is forbidden.

Sword axe is like the worst set ever.

Anyway, https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/warrior/DPS-guide-for-PvE-Dungeons-Soloing-More/first

Zelyhn Lekovitch.2867:

Even better: please buff D/F!

This, please. (I’m totally not biased as a D/F user)

also, lol @ the 10k damage cap and the stealth/portal nerf. Ever played mesmer?

FGS is more than 75k, though. But wow, 75k on an uncrittable boss sure is high.

Records are about maximizing dps, so i guess you could say taking the most damaging profession is quite normal. If they nerf FGS, you’d still take at least 2 eles for might/fury/ proj. absorbtion/swiftness/aoe burst and dps. Ele/ele/thief/guardian/warrior, or something like that?

Take a necro for boon strips, they have better single target dps.

I stopped playing mesmer because i couldn’t bear having such a low dps :/

I’m a selfish player. ( Also i always failed my portals)

Miku Lawrence.6329:

Axelwarrior.9084:

Very impressive and fun to watch! Good job~

Not sure where the fun is in doing 200k dps tbh.

You’ll never know how good having great dps feels as a mesmer

Good job anyway, clean run.

Depends on the game mode, i’m always switching between all my characters ( 8 80, 2 currently leveling). Here’s some general usefulness of classes, mainly in dungeons:
mesmer: driving the nerf train, not really wanted except in www roaming and some record runs for portal tricks, but fun class to play, access to powerful burst and stealth in pvp, 100% reflection uptime and great party utilities in pve.
Necro: the least wanted class in dungeons due to their selfish nature, but good in pvp and not so bad in roaming, lack mobility and suffer from being focused.
Elementalist: currently strong in all game modes, rules pve by a large margin, best dps in the game, legendary team support, conjures. In pvp, celestial gives overall tanky build with still a good damage output.
Ranger: average in pve, suffer from the fgs meta, but a well played ranger is a good addition to a team. Some interesting 1v1 builds, lacking in zergs, average to meh in pvp.
Engineer: overall good profession, king of vuln stacking in pve, has access to stealth, proj. reflect, and might in a limited way. Great roaming class.
Thief: good damage output and burst, best roaming profession because of mobility, stealth, and burst, useful in pvp.
warrior: still good in pvp and roaming, easy to play, good solo profession, not really useful in groups except for banner buffs.
Guard: good in all game mode, used in pve for their defensive support and their totally respectable dps, boonspam in pvp and www.

That was for the strenght of each, regarding the fun you’ll get to play them, I find deceptive classes the funniest for roaming ( thieves/mesmers), I usually play engi, war or guard in pvp, and ele in pve. Depending on what you’re seeking, some classes may suits you more than others.

Also, welcome to the game, and have fun!

nightwulf.1986:

oxtred.7658:

Remember when they fixed the fgs rush+ blink thingy? They stated that was an exploit. They are aware of how fgs works, and if they ever nerf it, it’s because people cried enough, just like spider queen. How exactly is fgs rush an exploit? What mechanic does it bypass?

Your [censored] [censored].

I’ll try to describe the issue as I understand it, feel free to say how unreasonable this sounds. If the conditions are met, when a boss is against a wall and fiery rush is used properly, you can cut the bosses health down dramatically in a very short period of time. There are several videos demonstrating this. What is being argued is that few if any other skills are capable of pumping out this level of damage in a short period of time under any situation. Reflection skills like Feedback and Wall of Reflection came under scrutiny for similar reasons. The skill does not appear to be balanced against the potential damage output of other skills in a big way.

Are the conditions to meet this damage threshold using this skill situational? Obviously.
Is it easy to meet these conditions?
From the number of dungeon speed run videos demonstrating this technique, it seems that it is possible to fail to meet the conditions necessary to pull this off but far from difficult with coordination.
Should mob mechanics and boss fights be altered instead of messing with the damage potential or functionality of the FGS?
Maybe. However, it wouldn’t change the fact that this skill on this weapon would still have a much higher damage ceiling than other skills. It’s either a problem or it isn’t.
How quickly does Anet expect players to take down bosses and how fast of a kill should be allowed under very specific circumstances?
This is probably what they are going to ask themselves when reviewing Fiery Rush. I don’t think any of us knows but again, changes to Reflection skills seem to suggest they are leaning towards not letting players find niche situations that are easily reproducible that allow them to kill a boss very quickly.

Just because the devs leave something alone for years doesn’t mean its a feature. And yes, problems in the game are found by people crying about/reporting issues. If you find something worth crying about, feel free to report it. Not everything people cry about is changed by the devs. They either agree with it or they don’t.

Yup, you’re right. The changes to reflects ( and how poorly it was done) shows that anet doesn’t like hard counter to their bosses. And yes, fgs damage is far over everything else and that’s where lie the matter. Again, since I use my ele in most dungeons, I know that fgs rushes aren’t that mindless, and some encounter requires a lot of coordination to fgs. What inexperienced players see in dungeon records is far from reality. We spend hours getting it down perfectly, and the level of coordination is extremely high. You can’t balance the game when speedruns are too fast, that’s the point of a speedrun.

Concerning your point about the devs, that’s where my opinion differ. Spider queen is a great exemple of that. It’s still easy so we don’t care, but the changes to spider queen were done to satisfy the casual whiteknights and their “melee exploit” sillyness. FGS will get the same treatment. They will nerf it, not because of the good arguments you or DnT gave, but because there’s enough spam on this forum to make them move.

Also, not directed to you but I wonder why people keep calling me a pver when they have no idea of how I play this game. And since when it is an insult to do some dungeons. Whatever.

The pvp and pve community of this game both thinks the other part get all the credit, and the “elitists” ( the true ones, this time) for both communities despite the other game mode for that. But no, dungeons and fractals never got updated except for that crappy level reset, and everyone is getting bored. That’s why you see people doing solo naked, trying strange things like walling lupi for max reflect damage, etc. New content would help, and a fractal team/dungeon team is totally needed, but since we won’t have that, it’s better to just repeat what we have and improve.
tl;dr: No, we’re not even close to satisfied, but we have no choice and we deal with it.

Remember when they fixed the fgs rush+ blink thingy? They stated that was an exploit. They are aware of how fgs works, and if they ever nerf it, it’s because people cried enough, just like spider queen. How exactly is fgs rush an exploit? What mechanic does it bypass?

Your [censored] [censored].

Atherakhia.4086:

Question: Is the skill working as intended?
Answer: No.

Question: Are people abusing the mechanic and it having unintended consequences?
Answer: Absolutely. It’s therefore an exploit.

I honestly don’t know why we’re even arguing these facts. They’re facts. ANet tried to fix this in the past for WvW and PvP for these very reasons but Fiery Rush remains. The fact that it trivializes PVE or that PvE would be boring without these exploits is irrelevant.

You seem to be perfectly aware of what is intended or not, are you a dev by any chance?

Mark of the Tethyos Houses. But it’s not a big deal, really.

Celestina.2894:

oxtred.7658:

Shield backpiece+ actual shield= a char with 2 shields in his back. Nope, won’t work.

If terrible clipping was a concern engis wouldn’t be forced to use hobosacks that clip with back pieces entirely.

Yeah, but engis have enough problem that way, no need to add more. I mean, that’s already horrible, but imagine a charr (!) engi (!) with an hobosack (!) and 2 shields (!).

First unlocked dungeon is AC story where mobs are level 30. There’s no hard cap, I did arah with level 15 chars or so, but since you’re 65 level less than the mobs, well you’re getting one shot. ( That was the funy story part) At level 30, you could do your first dungeon, but especially since the last update, low characters have low access to fitting utilities and it’ll be far more tedious than with 80 char. I don’t know if yak’s bend is EU or NA, but if it’s EU, i can run ac story with you.

At level 80, and provided you want to be useful for your team, the best gear are all dps oriented ( berserker-assassin) since support come from traits and dps helps you killing faster. 80 exotic are not BiS, but ascended is really costy for a small damage increase, so aim for exotics first.

All parts of gw2 are team oriented ( but you can still succeed solo), try WwW or PvP. I guess it’s all about tastes but I love playing with my guild ( they kinda hate me though), you could find like-minded people to play with you. The LFG tool has been moved ingame as stated Stompy, remember to read carefully the description before joining to avoid any problem.

Welcome!

Shield backpiece+ actual shield= a char with 2 shields in his back. Nope, won’t work.

You gain credit based on damage, mainly. But the damage is so low to get gold, even a naked upleveled can tag it. One advice: get in a group, it’s easier to gain credit if everyone hit.

About your support part, most support in this game come from damage mitigation, and a full berserker guard can do that same as you. Condi guardians are, let’s be blunt, really garbage, because you have only one damaging condition and in any group event that burn will be overwritten, greatly reducing your overall dps. The most important thing to know is: support isn’t tied to gear in gw2 pve, and survivability stats are selfish. Support comes from aegis, blinds, might stacks, protection, fury, proj. reflection, stability, condi clear, etc.

Buying new gear isn’t that expensive if you’re running dungeons a bit (bah pve!), so start with defensive gear and switch out after. Good luck with your build!

I agree with you, fgs is just a tool to make easy runs less boring. I guess the main concern from experienced dungeon players come from record runs. For now, all the strats involves fgs, making it dull to watch, and most inexperienced players just see the “fgsploit” and then come here complaining. Just like eles disliked being left out from cof P1 4zerkwar1mes groups ( wich was silly, I know), all non-eles users don’t want their classes to be subpar because bringing an fgs is, for instance ,better than a frostspotter ranger. I’m obviously not objective, as I play ele most of the time in dungeons, so keep that in mind. Also, the great damage from fgs makes it easier for inexperienced groups to succeed without proper stacking tactics in easier dungeons, and therefore gives them bad habits. It doesn’t reward good players, because even those 2wars/2eles groups usually have enough dps with fgs to not bother with offensive support. Maybe lower the base damage output of fgs but make might stacking more useful on it? But doing this would lower even more ele solo usefulness, so that’s a bad idea.
Imho, the only way to please dungeon runners is to make new content, where FGS will take time to achieve reliably ( at least when we’ll be learning the mechanics), but that’s an old dream.

Aridia.3042:

oxtred.7658:

WwW is LOL, you can do it without any sigils or runes. It makes no sense to center play around that unless you except to farm 24/7 and you have to shave those extra 5 mins for multiple fights.
See what i did there?
yeah, night is great for dungeons. You could just buy an exotic greatsword with whatever sigil suits you for www.

If you think playing against bots is harder than playing against people, then I don’t know what to say….

If you thing killing upleveled and people running zergy builds with your full optimized roaming build is a true matter of skill, then we’re both speechless. Pve, www, and pvp all call different capacities, and looking down a game mode because you don’t like it is silly.

WwW is LOL, you can do it without any sigils or runes. It makes no sense to center play around that unless you except to farm 24/7 and you have to shave those extra 5 mins for multiple fights.
See what i did there?
yeah, night is great for dungeons. You could just buy an exotic greatsword with whatever sigil suits you for www.

What weapon? I assume it’s staff? Staff water attunement is for water fields, your teammates can blast it for group heal. It’s not that useful in dungeons. Also, there’s no tank in this game.

The best way to complete last laugh is to play full berserker and rally off the mobs. It’s also really annoying to fight, and doesn’t reward much skilled players. Killing every mobs lowers the diversity of fights, and skipping is also fun in its way. So, no.