Guild Wars 2

I’m from TC, just saw this page on top under W3 section and hopped in to say hi to my YB brethren. I don’t usually invade other server threads, and apologize if you guys don’t like my presence here :p

I gotta be honest here, many on TC actually love YB for their fighting spirit and the kind of sportsmanship they can show even during some of the toughest situations. It’s sad that you guys lack the population to stay in T3, but would love to have you guys back again soon. Throughout the one full month of fighting you guys, I personally haven’t found a single act that could point fingers at you in the department of trolling or indecent behavior at any point, in-game or on forums. You guys have lots of class, and in the defense department, I’m sure you guys know why we TC with our numbers haven’t managed to take much in your BL. You guys outshine any T3 server in defense.

I’d definitely recommend YB to anyone looking for a server with a great skillful playerbase with a great fighting spirit. They can use a lot of players during NA primetime slot to stay competitive and move up to T3 where we could have fun, well-balanced matchups again where you could bring back the pain to us!

Good luck! Cheers!

Bumping the thread with hopes of some response. Honestly its getting horrifyingly ridiculous now!

Thread close countdown starts now!

pkilla.2534:

phaneo.4597:

pkilla.2534:

Wasn’t there. shrug I still stand behind the fact that we’re constantly outnumbered by TC, and it’s crazy to me that some of you guys are feeling awful mighty about it.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/TC-vs-CD-vs-FA/983868

Just saying. Hope you know where on the screen to look for [outmanned] icon.

Oh please! How often do you have that icon? Once a week for a half-hour? This is just silliness, please be realistic. If you’re trying to suggest that the numbers aren’t almost always in your favor, you’re off your rocker. Honestly, I don’t mind being outnumbered that much as I’m not a hardcore wvw’er and still have a great time just fighting other people with my guildmates. The fact that you guys have such an active group of players to work with is wonderful. I envy that. I just can’t stand to see FA being talked about as if we just got spanked with numbers on our side, during peak hours. It’s craziness!

Pretty much everytime we’re against any server with major Oceanic crew? And as I posted, I was just mentioning. By saying “Oh please”, you’re just discrediting the fact as if I’m finding some excuse, despite being in the lead which I really don’t have to. And even TC’ers above mentioned that its probably FA downtime despite having 40+ defending the garrison. Not sure as I wasn’t there. Those who were have mentioned it and I’d take the word of a fellow Toastie. I don’t mind being outmanned either, none of us do. We have still put up heavy fight against CD zerg at that time and even the day before when CD & FA have together attacked us on both fronts. I guess I’ll have to make a kittenin 100 line post that just reads “WE ALL HAVE OUR WEAK TIMESLOTS” after mentioning the same fact in every 5th post of mine.

pkilla.2534:

Wasn’t there. shrug I still stand behind the fact that we’re constantly outnumbered by TC, and it’s crazy to me that some of you guys are feeling awful mighty about it.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/TC-vs-CD-vs-FA/983868

Just saying. Hope you know where on the screen to look for [outmanned] icon.

I have posted enough on this topic already and would like to end it here. I just want to say one thing before that though:
Its true that WvWvW is a PvP zone and PvP happens there irrespective of whether you like it or not. Similar events were held in the past in other MMO’s which always ended badly. However here we 3 servers full of mature players, especially with all the animosity among ourselves in the past 4-5 days, had a chance to do something different for a few minutes. Some might frown at this move, some might call us idiots, some don’t just give a rat’s kitten what the motive for the event was. Yet players from all 3 servers have shown up. Although those from my enemy servers would remain anonymous to me, I’d like to say, “Thank You for being civil for a good 30mins before the event and for those 3-5mins during the event”. On the other hand, those who spoilt the event, well…

sceptus.9415:

Odaman.8359:

phaneo.4597:

Odaman’s post makes it pretty clear though. If we are zergs that throw our bodies for our server, you guys are just farmers that don’t give a damn if your server loses. No wonder you guys keep losing. GG!

That’s pretty accurate actually. I’ve seen tc throw their bodies at keep gates for hours getting stomped over and over and never give up. Personally I’d rather have fun killing than hitting auto run for 3hrs just to win.

I commend your thinking. Can you please ask everyone else on your server to stop defending keeps and roam about killing singles? It would save us a lot of time.

WTH! Really? Did they start defending keeps? When? How? I thought keeps that FA holds are usually capped by a group of 10 players without much effort! Are you mistaking YB/CD with FA by chance? C’mon get your facts right dammit!

The Great One’s reference? Is that what you think PD? Is that what you really think?

IT DOESN’T MATTER WHAT YOU ROODYPOOS THINK!

Odaman’s post makes it pretty clear though. If we are zergs that throw our bodies for our server, you guys are just farmers that don’t give a damn if your server loses. No wonder you guys keep losing. GG!

Nickthemoonwolf.1485:

To the guilds who crashed our party, thanks for giving TC a reason to stay in WvW next week. I also think your garrison looks good when its not red.

One advantage with Wintersday is each day’s events are playable if missed as long as Tixx is around. So they’re not one-time events and last quite long this time. This should give TC a hope to have more numbers over the weekend after reset.

appledainty.8127:

The main objective was completed. Italucuc escorted – as a dolyak himself – the intended dolyak to the keep without dying or without the Clovenhorn (that is the name of the southernmost dolyak) dying. It was an enemy dolyak being escorted to an enemy keep, but the event was about getting the dolyak from point a to point b and have fun. To me, that is what matters. In the end, Team Dolyak secures victory!

I for one had no doubt that there would be people trolling the event, so I was glad that there was a bit of a lead up to it with people gathering behind the camp and chit chatting or dueling or what have you. It was a lovely time. The screencaps of the dolyaks with all the fireworks is hilarious.

Good to see you consider it a victory despite the trolling. Thanks for bringing all 3 servers together on friendly grounds at one place even for a brief moment and for changing the mood on the forums as well. Unfortunately not everyone here likes good sportsmanship. You’ll always have my respect for your initiative.

/salute.

And yeah, @Awesomesauce, I read about the incidents that happened in WoW although never played it. I expected a lot more mature behavior from GW2 players. This game also seems to be plagued with 12 year olds unfortunately.

@Riel, I’m sorry to see you leaving the game but I understand how frustrating it could be when you don’t get rewarded for playing. I didn’t farm any area in days for loots, just given up until Anet or lots of players confirm that drops have improved at some point.
Also I apologize if I came off a bit rude a few days back when you replied to me. I’m not sure if you’d come back to this forum and read this after leaving the game, but just wanted to get it off my chest.
Thanks!

ryan.3915:

Don’t know if many of you know about the WW1 (yes, before WvW, there was World War 1) Xmas truces. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_truce

To me, the Dolyak walk was like the Xmas truce. In the spirit of Xmas, it was to show that despite fighting each other, we respect each other. Especially TC, which has been a great server to fight and learn from.

And I’m very saddened to hear that FA knew about it, and instead of taking the opportunity to capture towers and keeps, which is the aim of WvW, they decided to grief people who were inspired by the Dolyak Walk.

I respected FA to a certain level before, but now it seems like you guys are more similar to Magooma.

I respect your opinion on this with regards to the first 2 paragraphs. However with many FA also turning up for the event, I wouldn’t paint whole FA as griefers, except these few. If they wanted to prove something, they could’ve ninja capped a tower or hell, a keep maybe? TC/CD would’ve loved to take them back or die while trying. There were many other players from TC & CD that didn’t turn up for the event and were on a diff map, they could’ve fought them over there. This WAS A PEACEWALK, for a very brief time. They knew it. Yet they decided to camp exactly at that spot and kill non-hostile people because they wanted free badges without actually fighting.

TIMMEH.8106:

your comparing a video game to humanity……….Really? was the dolyak run raising funds for cancer research?

Did you miss the part of humanity on MMO’s? Are you guys really that bad in comprehending, I mean seriously? And yeah, it was a 10min goodwill parade, after all the kitten we’ve been spewing at each other on forums all week long. Stop trying to search for excuses for your actions. You’ve painted a bull’s eye on your back, get ready to show up for the fights and not camp JP’s.

People are still justifying their actions here? Yea its PvP, where all 3 servers were having a peaceful moment for a mere 10 mins. You could’ve let it finish and THEN get your lootbags? But no, YOU HAD to show up then and there to crash it. Give me a kittenin break! I don’t care if I get suspended for my tone, the excuses are kittenin ridiculous.

Alright, first of all I missed the Dolyak walk as I just saw the schedule this morning when I woke up and was there pre-event for some good 20mins in my golemite avatar. It was lots of fun with fireworks, dancing and all that with guys from all 3 servers. To the Asuran thief with [BS] tag from FA that was trying his best to do halloween costume brawl with me, sorry dude I tried as well, but I guess it doesn’t work with enemies. I saw you crying later, so did I. After a while I had to leave as I was getting late for office.

On my way to the office I was thinking about the event and was hoping it all went well. Here I come and read the whole thing and recalled one person’s post here that said, “I lost faith in humanity of MMO gamers” to which I replied, “Its time to restore faith in humanity”. With a lot of embarassment I admit I was wrong, although those who adhered to the peace treaty for a good little time have my respects and I bow to them.

To those trying to convince themselves and others that not everyone reads the forums – you have the evidence right infront of you in the above posts where some people from the mentioned griefer guilds had the guts to come out here and happily admit that they enjoyed crashing the peace party and loved the loot bags. And from the guild tags mentioned here, hell I haven’t even heard of those, do you guys even show up on the battlefield or are just one of those JP campers? How about show up to fight with both TC & CD bringing their wrath upon you and enjoy killing you while we both laugh at your dead corpses? That’s right you won’t show up. It was openly advertised on all 3 servers and people did turn up and used tonics to show that they are non-hostile. Yet you decide to take advantage of the situation as you knew the enemies won’t attack you back for a long time.

While I appreciate the FA guys that showed up for the event and joined in for the fun, I feel sorry for you guys due to the actions of your fellow Aspenwoods you also have to pay the price. Maybe just not show up on FABL until reset and let these griefers pay the price? They seem to enjoy fighting a lot although they don’t show up for actual fights, let them save your server to secure 2nd place maybe?

Just pathetic. I had to edit this post 3 times before posting to get the message across without getting it deleted. Highly frustrated!

TheFug.5278:

TC sure is spam laughing a lot lately.

To be honest, I’ve been laughed at a lot as soon as someone kills me, from both servers in fact. Earlier I used to bow to corpses regardless of the server, still I’ve been seeing lots of laugh or dance emotes. So I am making sure to laugh at anyone that dies defending something.

Being on the enemy server, I wouldn’t know who killed me earlier in a honorable way and moved on and who laughed at me. Its all Red enemy players that are between me and my target. So I just kill them, and give them a taste of their/their brethren’s own medicine.

I haven’t seen many of us doing that in the past. FA/CD have provoked this behavior in us. As I wrote earlier, all servers are doing it. If 3 from TC do it at any point in time, 10 from FA and 15 from CD do it. I never emoted at any YB corpse, if anything I used to bow to them because at no point have I ever seen any YB player laugh at a dead body except just a wave maybe, if anything they used to dance while cata’ing a structure and that’s it.

Navi.7142:

phaneo.4597:

Navi.7142:

Did something happen to the loot after they patched it today?
I am not sure, but I am missing hooves xD

U mean they even nerfed junk trophies?

No.. I got more other stuff instead of hooves. At least I think so, could be random.

Alright, thanks for clarifying. Hope the other things are atleast a little useful or worthy of selling. Once I’m at home later, shall check this in-game to see if anything has changed (hope I managed to find any party doing events that used to give nice loots like Plinx). Entire CS is Cursed these days on my server.

Navi.7142:

Did something happen to the loot after they patched it today?
I am not sure, but I am missing hooves xD

U mean they even nerfed junk trophies?

Riel.2160:

It’s not bug guys it’s feature to stop bots!

It’s actually even more fun watching new people that join this game on chat wondering why is whole world contested (mostly orr) and they can’t find players except in lower end areas while everyone is in fractals not even for ascended gear but just for loot.

Well, bots don’t eat/sleep/spend their time better spent on something else and don’t get tired of farming. We players do. DR should simply go. I don’t care if some 10k bots are making money, while the rest of the millions are royally screwed by DR and loot issues.

I know your post is a rather sarcastic one aimed at Anet, but if this were their intention they are handling it in a worse manner possible.

HenryAu.7523:

Well call me old and cynical. I’m calling it here that the parade dolyak is going to die and a massive brawl will happen.

Yes, I have lost faith in the humanity of online FPS and PvP gamers a long time ago. Go ahead… prove me wrong. =)

Time to restore the faith in humanity then! All Toasties can use Golem tonics and walk in the parade
C’mon if someone puts the whole thing on youtube, Anet can use it to promote the community feeling and how friendly even enemies can be at times in their game :P

Balzaimon.4895:

It’s been my experience that with enough arrow carts the largest of zergs can be magically transformed into soil enriching corpses. A good defense, especially when outnumbered IS the best offense.

So….. what time is this Dolyak parade? Im intrigued.

True that! Real fun in a fight is when you’re outnumbered with [outmanned] actually showing on your screen and you fight till the end. CD built quite a lot of siege (which we kept taking out with suicide runs and our counter trebs) at BV and took out the outer wall. I ported to garrison (stupid siege merchant at inner bay suddenly bugged out), and bought a bunch of siege to turn lord room into death trap. I think I’ve built more siege than there were players to man the siege lol. If the stupid Lord stayed within the circle and not moved out, we would’ve had a better chance to take them all out as I saw quite a lot of CD going down to our siege. Eventually they took us out, and the rest is history.
Yak parade is still under proposal from TC and under consideration from FA & CD. Once all parties come to an agreement of non-hostility, we can plan it sometime before reset.

Niim.9260:

So we are just going to walk behind a cow from a camp to a tower/keep? That’s the vent you are organizing? Is there more to it then that?

Some lovely person from CD made a post about walking dolayks, another guy from TC proposed that all 3 servers walk with her, another guy from CD agreed to it, and probably someone from FA did as well. So in the light of recent he-said, she-said stuff and the thread getting locked, we’re trying to bring a friendly aura to this thread.
As Leonidas says in 300: “There’s no reason we can’t be civil, is there?”

If we make it happen, let’s all of us just try to turn off auto-attack and be careful with whatever we do. We don’t want a brawl at a friendly parade.
I once mistakenly hit an enemy in EB JP while activating my speed skill. I was like OH SH**. I jumped down, waved, cried and all that and eventually got killed as I didn’t mean to be hostile.
Anyway, it would be great if this parade actually takes place.

Let’s just hope that enough people from all servers will show up for the dolyak walk, even if it starts snowing!

I feel they should include some event-related stuff to W3 as well so that completionists from all server feel encouraged to show up.
Also the upcoming W3 changes, especially the breakout events seems interesting and very helpful for servers who feel overwhelmed by enemies during any timeslot. Let’s see how it plays out and how it affects every server in every tier (below T2 that is).

As I wrote in my post, we all have our weak timeslots. TC is weaker during Oceanic primetime, but stronger during NA primetime. I guess I’m writing this fact for the 10th time in this matchup. Rolls eyes

Was funny for a moment when I saw [outmanned] on TCBL after seeing the same thing on EB a few minutes before that.

Anyway, worry not! Next week other two servers can roll all over TCBL when most of us are busy grinding Wintersday content. Atleast during weekend, we definitely won’t be able to secure the heavy lead that we usually been having for the past 1 month. And I’m not sure if we can pull ahead during the rest of the week given the fact that the event will last for quite a long time, unless most of us get bored of the event.

Wasabi Kitty.8247:

Honestly getting sick of TC. Just so pointless fighting against them when no matter where you go they outnumber you at least 2 to 1.

We had [Outmanned] buff on our own BL earlier this morning when CD was assaulting Bay as well as in EB. I first headed to EB, saw Outmanned and not much happening, moved to TCBL, saw CD attacking Bay and saw Outmanned on our own BL and eventually lost Bay after quite a long fight, and eventually took em all down at Sunnyhill and took back Bay. So, yes we all have our own weak timeslots.

Thanks again Sam for showing up with reinforcements and saving the day!

Ok, let’s not again derail this thread, and this is a request to all the sides.

To change everyone’s mood:

appledainty.8127:

Hello! I just wanted to make some small requests of my fellow players.

If you are from CD you probably think of me as the mad red pirate that toils endlessly alongside a dolyak in an endless quest to upgrade All The Things.

If you are from FA or TC you probably think of me as that squishy blue ranger toiling endlessly alongside a dolyak in a hopeless quest to upgrade All The Things you are just going to take anyway.

My fellow CD players, I would ask that if you should see me walking alone beside a slowly plodding dolyak, that you please toot your horn or otherwise put a speed burst on as you pass to assist my efforts. It is for the good of the server!

And ye nemesis of TC and FA, I ask that if you should see me toiling all alone with a dolyak, that you wave at me before you stake me to the ground.

Love,
Team Dolyak & Fluffyhooves

Jayne.9251:

Personally I think we should all make a big 3-server marching parade with Appledainty at the end of this week and walk with her and her Dolyak.

Let’s try to make this happen!

Hekatombaion.4320:

phaneo.4597:

Nobody on TC is crying about 2v1,

Saw quite a lot of people on TC crying about it, and assuming it was a thing. Also saw some embracing the challenge but the point is you don’t speak for everybody.

Care to quote the posts than just shooting in the air that “quite a lot of people on TC are crying about 2v1”? The majority, hell 99% of posters here that I know from TC, don’t even care if its 2v1. If you want to see real 2v1 accusations and crying, perhaps you should take a look back to the last 3 weeks of TC/FA/YB? OR… more familiar example that I’m sure you could remember was TC/CD/YB where CD JP campers were kitten that TC & YB wouldn’t kill each other out there. We have lots of evidences to prove it, numerous posts, every week the threads got closed due to continuous derailing of discussion with endless rants about some imaginary alliance; here some CD & FA commanders or whoever have clearly admitted or just trolled about 2v1 AFTER WE, TC, HAVE BEGGED for an alliance to keep us feel challenged. Now here we are, again discussing about it making some baseless ridiculous statements that “quite a lot on TC are crying over 2v1”. Quote the posts kitten that proves quite a lot are crying and only a few are happy about the challenge, where I can prove its the opposite.

Edit: Wow, F F S got replaced by kitten, gg Anet!

Akisame.9508:

I’m in TC and to be honest with you guys, I’d be the first to say that I’m a newb when it comes to PvP. My first time ever doing PvP was in SWTOR, which I know that PvP is considered a joke. Since I enjoyed the PvP there I tried WvW over here and was actually getting tired of the running around from area to area, killing NPC’s to regain control and continue to the next point. There just wasn’t enough of the PvP going on for me so I was about to give up on WvW. The other day when I logged on I saw swords all over the map so I made my way to the closest one. Climbed up the wall to start my attack to find myself looking out into an ocean of red tags under me. I have never seen that many people before at one time in WvW and it was exhilarating and very fun. We lost some ground and got pushed back, lost the wall, but after some reinforcements came in we regained the wall and began to rebuild defenses. It was something that made me wish I had some VR gear on so I can feel like I was actually in there! I don’t know why people are complaining about, it was fun. Yea, it might suck if it was day in and day out the same thing but every now and then to have a battle like that is just awesome.

I share similar feelings with the difference that this is my first MMO and well, WvWvW is my actual first PvP experience, apart from whatever 2-3 UT3 or Quake 3 CTF matches I’ve played some 8-9 years back and just gave up! I started showing up while we TC had the worst of the moments with servers like SoR/BG and I got really motivated to continue here. My first motivation has been to get Gift of Battle for my legendary which I already got a month ago, yet I halted legendary for now and pushing myself to further improve at W3. I am a noob and most often die in a 1v1 scenario and I don’t feel ashamed to admit it. GW2 was advertised for casuals, and I joined in to get away from the “elitist” attitude, but alas… as long as there’s PvP involved, that attitude will always follow you. Fortunately though, as I keep improving and help my server improve overall, I could hardly give two hoots about what someone thinks of me as an individual. I could sPvP for that, am here for my server and that’s about it.

Enjoy the grander level of battles that is WvWvW!

Cloud.7613:

FA is willing to come third just to make TC suffer 2v1.

Well they have given clarifications or what they knew on this topic, and I wouldn’t say TC suffered much. It was population issues on part of TC at the time of the sandwich incident, and CD is the strongest in the tier at that slot; FA took advantage of it. What happened between them is upto them, and I wouldn’t worry much about it. Nobody on TC is crying about 2v1, but merely analyzing what went wrong and how we could improve and I’d like to keep it that way.

Wasabi Kitty.8247:

I figured TC would have a bit more class.

I needed a couple events for my daily so I head into TC borderlands which is pretty much empty. I intercept a dolyak and kill it, one event down. Kill a sentry, another down.

At this time a random warrior decided he wanted to fight me, fair enough. I kite a bit to get my health up and he goes down fairly quickly. As I just finish stomping him, a thief decides to join in. Once again I kite him a bit to get my health up, and he goes down fairly quickly. At this point a group of somewhere between 10 and 15 decides they were going to fight. They eventually kill me but not until after I get a kill of my own.

As I finally go down I’m treated to a nice bit of /laugh from TC. After killing 3 and eventually being taken down by 10 people.

Stay classy.

Are we still at it? Everytime, I get taken down by any FA zerg, I see 4-5 emotes pop up on my chat screen. Shall make it a point to take a kittenin screenshot next time and put it up on the noticeboard here. You took out our yak and a sentry and one of our players. So…yes. Every server emotes, let’s just get over it!

Feydra.6318:

Been getting 12hours sleep, and eyeing ower the forums, seems alot have happened, in anycase where to start… From the start of course

Yesterday, we slowly pushed FA and CD out of our TCbl, we had about half a hour to hour to get everything ready for the push we knew where comming from CD, the first one rolled in, and we could counter it with a few reinforcements from EB, thanks Jalen and co for comming, the second one hit far harder, i ran and did a desperet plea in CB, “we need everyone you can spare – yesterday”, BB and vale been lost, and ewen with people comming from EB, we were severly out numbered by CD, that a crew from FA about our size decided to team in as well, dident make it easier, lol…

RL was held by a skeleton crew im not sure how many or who, i was fighting the best i could in Bay, and despite we doing alot of errors, we held out rather long, about the same time as Bay fell, hill was lost, simply couse we dident have numbers, as one of our commanders said, “Well then its lost, do the best you can” all hail the glorius dead lol… At sunny was lost after some intense fightin and we TC did what we could, despite the odds, but in the end we were grinded down…

The last part im abit unsure what happened, i was sentry at Crag, and though we repelled FA twice, and they went silent, i stayed at crag, all other went to Gar and started a counter on sunny despite us still being outnumbered by CD alone, with abit of coordination i heard we might have taken sunny back… though when Garr was lost, i was like ??? . i can only apload FA for the speed and sneaky ness it was done, and not trigger any swords on the map, well done !. it took us all by suprice, and when you got the treb up, crag was doomed, your colems that taken Garr overran Crag swiftly…

By this time, most of us were sort of so exhousted, i got myself some tea and a few cookies and alittle break, i was about to go sleep when i got back to my computer, Sam had then rallied about the 10-15 that was left in TCbl. and in a hour the entire TCbl was green again…

Conclusion, TC no shame in loosing to a superior numeric oponent, they needed hours upon hours to grind us down, only to have us take it back in one !… In a stragic wiew we lost about 3-4k points towards CD, and FA been barely gaining anything upon us only loosing ground towards CD and getting securely placed as third…

Also as a counter to being fought by 2nd and 3rd servers, we can start to focus on the third, and only Defend against second, in this case CD, and push FA, we can allways match FA in numbers, so in theory if we let CD take, we just use our Mobs to take what ewer FA takes ;P and push where ewer they hold things… I think its called devide and conquer ;P

In anycase thanks to all sides, some intense fighting !

-Miriel

Quoted whole post cuz I feel you’re fortunate to get 12hrs of sleep :P … I logged off at 3am yesterday (Asian time) after we made sure the map is all green and yaks are being escorted, and woke up at 7am. Been having a hangover today at work :P and yes thanks Sam for turning the tide yesterday, and Deyja, Jalen & Co. for answering our call for support.

Regarding the last part, this is always gonna happen until all 3 servers have equal coverage at all times. TC is strongest during NA prime time, but weakest during off-time. Exact opposite can be said about CD. They’re powerful during NA off time and not so much during prime time. FA can field numbers almost equally during both time slots, but lesser in comparison to the other two. That’s what I observed from my past experience with both servers. I could be a bit wrong about FA pop though, it seems to fluctuate now and then.

wildcode.5403:

phaneo.4597:

Thanks a lot and highly appreciate the work you guys have put in for this! Hope we get something done or atleast acknowledged by Anet regarding this soon enough!

Remember the days where you had to empty your inv every couple of events in Cursed Shore, and you’d make about 2G an hour … I miss them too.

Yeah, in fact, now if my bags are full I have to choose between blues and porous bones, so many bones drop that a stack can give some silver compared to blue drops which just give a few copper. That’s quite sad!

wildcode.5403:

Well, farmed Cursed Shore events today, did the math and sent all the info to ANet as well as a screen shot of the loot I had gotten from 13 events (yes loot from 13 events was sitting in less than 50 slots) … I did some extra math and prior to Nov15 I would of almost got double the loot I got now, and a much greater % of equipment than I do now. Included those details in the bug report as well.

Rigth now about 19% of my loot is equipment, about 42% is junk and about 39% fines/bags/salvagable. The make up used to be 45% equipment, 34% junk, and 21% fines/bags/salvagable.

Not only has the quantity changed, but also the quality. It has also seemed to have gotten worse since 11 days ago when I was getting more fines/bags/salvagable than junk.

Thanks a lot and highly appreciate the work you guys have put in for this! Hope we get something done or atleast acknowledged by Anet regarding this soon enough!

@Divinebeing: Well, my post wasn’t whether there was an actual alliance or not, even during the total TCBL take-over by both FA & CD, I didn’t really think there was any alliance, until a few of them posted here either to joke around or maybe a few of them communicated with other side, but whatever! I was only mentioning how I look at it from my end, so things can be seen from all perspectives to clear up that TC isn’t whining about it.
If they allied, good for them! If not, even good for them! As long as we aren’t just trolling around and having fun fights it doesn’t really matter. Overall it helped us come out strong, and in long run it will help us further. Even on our community website, we’ve been continuously discussing about improving our strategies before even thinking of moving to T2; so moving up is not our priority in general, improving our play style is which was evident after getting sandwiched yesterday.
And thanks for the updates man! Good to see us make a come back in force!

@wombat, I don’t think Divine meant specifically you or anyone for that matter, and I really appreciate POV from FA as well as from CD. I go through all the posts in the thread since the last post I read to get an idea of what I missed when I wasn’t online and try to put everything into a long winded post (I apologize for that) so some might just look at a couple of things and ignore the rest, thereby my posts at times get antagonized lol. I should make it a habit to keep things short (which is quite difficult when you try to discuss, this isn’t twitter anyway :P)

Anyways, enjoy the fights everyone and salute to all 3 servers for great matchup. Hope we can keep changing strategies and pacing each day so we don’t get tired of each other if we face off again in coming weeks.

wombat.6123:

phaneo.4597:

Was there an alliance in TCBL? It was openly admitted.

I was one of the first FA players in TC BL when we started attacking, so I’ll clear up what I know from the FA side.

First off — there was no alliance in TCBL last night.

About 10 of us ported from EB to TC BL because we saw CD was attacking bay there. We thought it would be a good time to try and retake some of our stuff.

There was absoltely no communication between the 10 of us who ported to TC BL and the CD players there.

All we did was attack our side of the map, first retaking Redlake tower and then going for the hills keep. During this entire time CD was fighting at the bay, and we had no intention of going to that side as we had so few people.

Just as we took down the western wall of the hills keep a bunch of other people from our guild joined us. We also had a fair number from other guilds like JPN. We progressed up our side of the map while CD was going up theirs, not because of an alliance but because it was the path of least resistance. At no time did any of us talk to any CD players on the TC BL.

Well, good to hear your end of the story. I based my post based on some players who were there from either servers and DID admit, I am not from FA/CD and wouldn’t know. Some have admitted, I quoted and that’s all there is to it. But in NO WAY, am I either whining about it, after making posts yesterday asking for alliance between you guys, nor am I denying the credit where it is due, with regards to the work you guys have put in to kick our butts, and the work we guys have put in to try to defend.
And we have time and again openly admitted that we could learn a couple of things and improvise our playstyle, and we DID make mistakes last night which was clear from my post.
Great fights overall! Thanks for making us rethink our strategies and weaknesses!

Any score updates with map shots please, anybody!?

Wow, some people just seem to jump to conclusions based on what they want to read, rather than what’s written. Read my post twice (I know its quite long, but well) and tell me if I am actually trying to stir up a fight or whatever, where I openly applauded the work put in by both servers/guilds from both sides to keep us on our toes and admitted the mistakes we committed. Well, some guys just see negativity in everything maybe!

Enjoy the fights and the game!

Viridian.2357:

What? The general consensus from the meeting of all the major guilds in CD was to attack FA and secure second.

This is so absurd… everyone is so paranoid. The people in CD thought FA and TC had a deal for a while.

This is starting to get to tabloid level.

Guess you didn’t read my whole post and jumped to replying directly based off the first line or your comprehension level needs improvement. I didn’t anywhere mention any GENERAL consensus or Server-wide alliance, I said some guilds from both servers who were on TCBL. L2 Read maybe?

Edit: well, alright you suddenly edited a line after I posted this. A quote from my last post:

- If you’re not in TCBL, you wouldn’t know about whatever communication that happened between commanders from CD & FA. So there’s no point in commenting on what happened in EB, when the discussion here was regarding the brief alliance on TCBL. Was there a server-wide alliance all over? Nobody said that. Was there an alliance in TCBL? It was openly admitted.

And read my whole post again, and see if it really sounds paranoid?

Wow! This thread has spiced up for all right and wrong reasons!
First of all, I applaud people like Shinhwa and Shadow Gathering to come out openly and admit the temporary alliance/truce or a few commander-level coordination between 2 servers or a couple of guilds from both servers or whatever it is you call it. And yes, we asked for it. And it did make things a little interesting.
We did grow complacent over the past few weeks, and wanted to relive the SoR/BG days. We did get it last night (or early morning in NA today). The time when we have the lowest coverage. I’m not trying to justify why we lost our stuff, or to put down the effort you guys put in saying that you won over a few of us! Both CD & FA who actually worked in TCBL (I’m talking exclusively about TCBL and not EB or some random JP so those who were not part of TCBL crew from both these servers, better not jump on this post as you obviously know nothing) knew how much effort it took them to take the stuff from us, and how much effort it took for us to try to defend what we have. And yes as a few of my fellow Coasties who were there at that time, well put it in terms of what mistakes we made, and where we could improve and where we’ve shined.
A few things that hurt us terribly are wrong upgrades being ordered on keeps at wrong times (not sure who did it or how this happened, most regulars know which order to upgrade, etc but well) and the other thing was lack of waypoint at Bay/Hills & Garrison. Only way for us to get back to the points of assaults was from our spawn.
But even waypoints would’ve helped us only so much as we actually did NOT have enough numbers at that point of time. Our NA crew is quite strong, there’s no denying it from our side or any server that fought us. Our weak area is our NA off hours. We still lack coverage at that time. And whatever forces we have then, stick to EB except a few. If we were equally a huge force during that timeslot, I’m pretty sure we would have tried to make a huge push while there was an assault on Bay. But we don’t have numbers at that time, exactly when the Asian guilds from CD are in full form. No it’s not an excuse, it’s a fact. We tried to hold onto whatever we have until our NA morning crew starts showing up. Once they were on, we actually took back everything, held off another assault by CD on bay. The wall went down, and yet we managed to keep them outside the gate. Not quite sure what happened next, since it was 3am over here and I had to sleep. I missed my workout today, but it was worth it for one day! Hope I can stay awake in the office :P

As to the wrong reasons mentioned by a few:
- TC never claimed it is almighty. If anyone did treat it such or look at it such, it’s the servers we fought.
- Yes TC is proud of the dedication of its players with regards to defenses, yak escorting, siege deployments, tactics and quick responsiveness. We never boasted about it, and MAINLY never looked down upon others. If some of us did, we were merely pointing out areas where you could improve. And yes, I posted yesterday as well that if an alliance works well for FA & CD, we could all learn from each other. That’s how most of us would look at it.
- Nobody from TC is crying about 2v1 here. It’s quite evident from each and every Toasties’ posts here since the reset where we literally asked them to team up. Yes, we ASKED them to. During TC/FA/YB matchups, we left YB at times due to reasons openly admitted here, their defenses on their BL. It was quite evident from other occasions where one of these servers would take down the walls from one side and the other would come from behind, clean up the former and claim the point for themselves. Clearly there was no alliance.
- If you’re not in TCBL, you wouldn’t know about whatever communication that happened between commanders from CD & FA. So there’s no point in commenting on what happened in EB, when the discussion here was regarding the brief alliance on TCBL. Was there a server-wide alliance all over? Nobody said that. Was there an alliance in TCBL? It was openly admitted. There’s no point in denying it by a few who weren’t even on TCBL and if you think its US crying over 2v1 after asking for it, well, hope you get well soon!

DeCree.5698:

To the TC thief and mesmer that was fighting with me 2v1 north of champions demense, thanks for a fun battle although i died. But was a lil disappointed that the thief decided to hit Alt+F4 when i got him down. anyways, cheers!

Good thing they’re fixing it soon though, Alt + F4 is a plague in W3. One guy posted how he closes GW2 when almost dying some days back on guru forums and was quite proud of it, and the disease has spread all over. Not sure how the fix is going to impact those with bad D/C or lag issues though.

Astralporing.1957:

RedBaron.6058:

phaneo.4597:

RedBaron.6058:

Well, they are counting with WintersDay event to bring back a lot of disappointed players.

But this whole affair is really sad…just plain disrespect for their player base.

There’s no assurance or mention of this bug being fixed in wintersday patch, so I don’t really care what they’re doing until I see some changes in-game and mass acknowledgement by players that things are back to normal.

I agree. Only after things go back to pre-15th November loot drop tables I will be back.

Back to pre-15th November? When their patch notes promised increased drop rates? It’s like having a “25% price reduction” promotion by first increasing the price by 33%.
Sadly, i can believe that it’s what it will end at.

Well, back then, atleast you knew you’d get some drops off mobs that you kill. As of now, you don’t get a drop at all most of the times, not even those stupid porous bones at times (they even nerfed them I guess). And I’d get 3-4 rares per Plinx run with full MF gear & stuff.

Diehard.1432:

Just want to say that I am enjoying the Tier 3 so far. Props to both FA and TC for giving us a good fight. T4 (Mag and Ebay) was just too easy for us, and they cried a lot when they were outmatched. I hope Yak’s Bend can cope with all the whines

As far as I’m concerned, its a mutual feeling. Been having lots of fun in whatever limited game time I can get in a day. YB is a classy server, it has proved this in the past with its actions and in the last 3 weeks against TC & FA. Many on TC actually miss fighting them. They hit hard when they do, and defend quite well. Population issues suck though, for any server especially the one’s that keep spiraling down from top due to transfers and when the loyal players stick to the server fighting through the tough times. Best part was how close the scores have been the first 2 weeks of our matchups. I guess 3rd week of TC/FA/YB has been a bit redundant for many players on all sides and many probably just stopped showing up resulting in the wide gap in score.

Astry.9476:

Update as of 2:30 am EST

Thanks! Although you’re not a devotee of Holy Golem God, shall seek his blessings on your behalf.
Funny combat text, btw! Just saying :p

Timezone differences suck; the most fun fights happen when either I’m asleep, or when I’m in the office!
Score updates with map shots please!

RedBaron.6058:

Well, they are counting with WintersDay event to bring back a lot of disappointed players.

But this whole affair is really sad…just plain disrespect for their player base.

There’s no assurance or mention of this bug being fixed in wintersday patch, so I don’t really care what they’re doing until I see some changes in-game and mass acknowledgement by players that things are back to normal.

ninjambo.3784:

your post is about 2 hours after it happened :P

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/12-7-TC-vs-FA-vs-CD/960492

A day old post, you’re welcome again. :P

Anyways, good thing that you’ve managed to pull a temporary alliance to keep us on our toes. Our players, even pugs can be full of bloodlust at times, just saying :P

ninjambo.3784:

The CD/FA alliance in TC border was really nice while it lasted, we almost painted the entire map Red and Blue, until a certain guild from FA decided to disregard the 20+ people in map chat saying DONT ATTACK CD, but did it anyways. And that was when the fun of crushing the coast ended :C

Well, just as predicted, clearly mentioned in my last post. You’re welcome

Well, as I’ve already stated in my previous posts, this is my first MMO and I pre-ordered this solely based on the manifesto and reviews from loyal GW1 fans about how great Anet is. While this isn’t the same Anet as a whole, which I understand now, its still disheartening to see a company with such following being defamed by its parent company with such decisions.

http://www.arena.net/blog/guild-wars-2-design-manifesto