That argument is as valid for you as it is for me. My viewpoint of it being a dull and unneccessary mechanic won’t change either way, so let’s just agree to disagree.
Just wondering though, have you ever been one of those elementalists that had to block siegeshots for long periods of time?
Yeah, I never do it longer than maybe 10 minutes though. Usually it’s to hold off damage until some help that I know is coming arrives. Doing it yourself with no reinforcements is just a waste of your time. Don’t do it, if it results in a loss of the structure owell, get it back when you have the people to do so. It’s just a game, have fun and don’t make a job.
If people are going to get kitten y that you didn’t remain there, that’s on them.
Uhm, I see plenty of people miss their treb shots, especially when the enemy siege is placed at hard to reach locations. I don’t see how using swirling winds would involve more skill than firing trebs. While defending our borderlands, I see more golems than I see trebs, and sieges involving trebs have a way lower success rate. Why would you siege a keep for hours with trebs when you can just golem rush the place and take it in 2 minutes? I’m saying this just because it’s another reason why I don’t think we need swirling winds’ interaction with siege shots.
Sounds like that’s a meta of your tier then. We use trebs quite often, and successfully in ours. Anecdotal evidence isn’t usually the best to base conclusions on.
Since when did aiming a treb become difficult and require much skill? If it’s long range you have a spotter anyway. No skill vs no skill = fine to me. Maybe it’s a bigger problem in higher tiers, but Trebs are definitely not invalidated in t7/t8 with Swirling Winds.
You’re incorrect that it’s not a part of the game. In fact, it was originally intended that all reflect skills worked as well, but that was seen as overly powerful as the siege would destroy itself far too quickly. So only the skills that block still work. This is intended, and verified by the devs.
Personally, I think we need more defensive siege counters. Just make the reflect skills destroy the incoming siege instead of reflect and and we are set. It’s a good thing you don’t speak for everyone, as some people actually enjoy this element of strategy and would be sad to see it go (myself included).
No, I am totally new to the internet, and I am unaware of humor in general.
Is your second sentence (that I quoted above) supposed to be ironic? You see why that is irony, right?
Also, I enjoy your server when fighting them 1v1, but that has only occured about 4 times since you got to T7. I am glad you are having fun and hope you continue to do so all the way to T6.
I haven’t seen you posting here much (sorry I just haven’t paid attention) so I wasn’t sure if you were trolling or not, and nah there was no intended elitism in my post. You seemed genuinely annoyed, I just wanted to make sure you knew we were having fun and there was no trolling going on there.
If the statement seemed elitist, apologies, I’m just not a big an of it. Is that ironic as well? Maybe I’m just not getting it.
If they leave, we keep doing what we already doing.
If they stay, then we keep doing what we already doing.
That’s good. I have no idea whats going on in that way faraway land of tier 2, but it sounds (based on what I’m reading in this thread) like you guys already had a good core established beforehand. Keep having fun.
They don’t need any help at this point :P. I’m fairly positive they will bump up next week unless HoD has a huge change in gameplay. They are as far from t7 as we are from t6, which is less than 20 points.
good to hear, I was actually looking at SF server because I’ve seen videos of Seven mirrors, and I’m a huge fan n would like to see more of his gameplay in person, but only thing is i dont wanna stack a wining server even if its just me, which is the only thing holding me back atm.
What timezone do you play in? Despite what the other servers say, we don’t have overflowing numbers, we were just stuck too long in lower tiers so we tend to overwhelm the lower tiers.
Primtime NA is when we have the vast majority of our players so we don’t need a ton of help there, and we could use help with our night and morning crews. Seven Mirrors and the guild he is in [KING] have quite a few members and they range all over the timezones, though I personally have seen him on early during the weekdays and later on at night on weekends. They are great guys.
But that being said, we are far from having queues and being overwhelmed by too many numbers on the map, always welcoming new people as well.
You will run into those large zergs in t7/t8. But I doubt they are are nearly as frequent as you are used to. There are still a lot of small man groups running around and roamers. Honestly, people see 15 people down here and call it a zerg, for whatever that’s worth.
Lol’d pretty hard at worst mechanic in MMO history. There’s quite a few of us that enjoy the mechanic, it’s a good thing you don’t speak for everyone. Yes, and all of us are obviously baddies because we don’t comply. *sigh.
I kinda want to see how GoM would fare, but tbh, based on the scores from the first week they went down, and the patch next week (assuming that SAB excuse is legit). Yeah … I’m guessing they would fare worse than HoD currently is. Entirely admit I could be wrong though, I mean hey, t7 kept thinking they were going to push us back down into t8. so *shrug.
You know the reward difference from losing each week in t8 compared to winning t1 every week? That’s right folks, the same exact thing! ArenaNet has implemented a scoring system that rewards you for winning, by placing you in another tier where you can grind for the same exact thing you’ve done in every other tier. It’s fools gold, and each day people realize it, the game slowly dies. It’s a perpetual loop of the same garbage. There is no skill difference between tiers, just numbers. So if we were to just sit in t8 for all of eternity, it wouldn’t bother me a bit.
You’ve successfully turned this interesting idea into a circle jerk. Keep on patting yourself on the back about how skilled you are if it makes you feel better.
FWIW, ET and FC may welcome the roamers hopping down, I know they have quite a few skilled roaming guilds down there, but I know quite a few of them want to work on progressing as a server as well (as much as you may think that’s such an inferior desire). So I don’t know that stability can really be promised in any tier.
Changing the meta is a fun idea, I’m all for it, just don’t be douchy about it.
PAXA is on HoD, so when HoD goes down to T8, they will leave T7. They are not transferring to GoM.
Ah, misunderstood. Yeah, it’s a tossup right now whether HoD will bounce down to t8 first, or whether we bounce up to t6. The spread between the two is almost equal right now.
Its all good, PAXA has a master plan to join all the other roamers in a land of happy free roaming where no-one ever can count past 5. They will be missed…by our thread’s post count.
Wat? Is PAXA leaving? I heard WvW went down to GoM as well. What’s with all the transfers lately.
My apologies, I was translating my intent into something a forum regular would understand, as I don’t speak Brah, and wanted to convey my point as succinctly as possible.
I hope the influx of eager female groupies in the wake of your astounding move to T6 is everything you hope it to be. In the mean time, continue your attempts to elicit incendiary reactions with your hyperbole.
It’s positively adorable.
You seem kind of mad. You realize he wasn’t trolling, as much as just joking around right? Even with his secondary response, yet your responses act as if he’s declared some hostile intent. Methinks your subconscious is bleeding outside.
We’re here to have fun sir, and we are (relatively) having fun in t7. We’ll move up to t6 when it’s happens. Until then, try not to get bummed, we don’t hate you.
So yet again, congratulations ANet, by screwing things up again with free transfers. Have we learned our lesson yet?
again?
has there been another round of free transfers in the last 3 weeks?
It was a referencing the result of their last round of free transfers, i.e. we are now seeing the repercussions of those free transfers, and I’d argue on the side of them obviously not meeting their intentions.
I just spoke with someone on ET, it sounds like you guys are far better off with Agg gone (commanders trolling servermates off cliffs, seriously wtf). And good to see you guys aren’t too discouraged with this; KWBH, FoE, Basic, and quite a few others (sorry if I’ve forgotten names, been in t7 too long now) are really strong guilds and deserve to be recognized instead of being overshadowed.
I still hope to see you guys bump up to t7 as well sometime in the future, looks like you guys still have a relatively balanced match at the moment though, hope you’re all having fun.
Curiousity strikes me, I know that for at least one of the guilds this is their second transfer in several weeks. Is DB concerned about these groups band-wagoning to another server again?
Nothing like dropping 6-7 and having a mosquito rally all of them. Gotta love that…….
This the only major gripe I have with downed state mechanics.
Reviving/Rallying off one shot on an ambient creature is the biggest joke of a mechanic I have ever seen in any MMO. How it is still in the game is beyond me.
Ambient creatures don’t rally, IIRC; at least I never have been able to. I’m pretty sure the mosquito’s are not ambient.
It’s just kind of funny. When [VK] transferred down from the higher tiers to FC and everyone was concerned/bothered by [VK] leaving, [Agg] vehemently denied that they were going to do the same thing.
I mean, I’ll give them credit, they definitely stayed what a week or two longer. But again, kind of silly; I rather feel bad for ET though as I would any server that lost a significant WvW guild when they are trying to progress.
But I’ll leave it at that, still haven’t seen ET post on the matter.
It seems like quite a few of the “free-transfers” are moving around a bit. We’ve seen people come over from HoD, the above is leaving NSP, and even [Agg] the zergball group has left ET.
So yet again, congratulations ANet, by screwing things up again with free transfers. Have we learned our lesson yet?
Lol, was [Agg] leaving known on ET before it happened? Or did they just up and run? I haven’t seen ET post on the matter, so I’m curious. What happened to ‘here to stay’ Aggression, get too boring :P?
My experience with XOXO has been in one of two scenarios. Either 1) they are a few members running around with a pug group/zerg. Or 2) they hang back to snag stragglers running from spawn to get back to bigger fights. (I have been 1v3-5’d many times and usually I just stop and sit and wait for them to finish me because it’s not even fun at that point, it’s just annoying and I take an alternate path next run).
I have never encountered a group of 5 or so XOXO just roaming themselves, that are actively engaging other smaller groups, as opposed to picking off 1-2 weaker targets (which they claim to not spike, but lol I have yet to encounter that).
Could they be amazingly skilled? Sure. But I have yet to see it. Even as “feeder fish” to zergs, the common tactic is to stealth away to the core of said zerg when the opposition proves they can stand beyond the 2-3 hit instanukes.
Am I missing something? I’ve just been under the impression their notoriety was forum trolling.
Your right, the ratings system sux and it needs a lot of work, but you gotta admit, COOKIES sure do help. And I know you guys aren’t really trying in this tier either. So glad you have had so much mercy. Special thanks for that. Btw where can I send you guys cookies as a thank you?
*sigh. We didn’t send cookies, that was FC/ET (pretty sure it was an FC guy though). So if you want us out of your tier, maybe you should do the same I guess.
“Cruise Control” is a very apt description. I know a lot of our heavy WvW commanders/players have not been coming in or flipping tags on (myself included). It’s giving a lot of newer commanders opportunity to step up and learn the ropes.
Which honestly, is not a bad thing, I have no idea what t6 is like, but the more we have players improving on our server the better. The hardcore WvW’ers will kick in gear heavy when things get challenging (and the fairwhether guys will fade, yes I know).
NSP you have every right to be proud of your accomplishments, but when all we hear from you is how bad we are and then you claim that your sole intervention is what’s holding us down. You’re going to get jumped on, despite the statement itself being rather amusing.
So racist and sexist? NSP is going for all categories of fail discrimination. How is this even trolling?
I understand you’re trying to get a rise out of someone, I mean, that’s your goal. But it just comes across as childish. Aren’t there better (less douchy) ways for you to get the attention you crave?
SF isn’t going up this week. Honestly it depends on IoJ or whoever is going to fall. We have gone up steadily each week, but t6 started to fight back against Darkhaven recently leading to an increase of points on their end as well.
Probably because Arborstone only came down on Friday and are on course to go back up this Friday. The EU situation is not the same as the situation the US had, there is no pit at this time.
Oh my bad, then yeah, if there is still movement, that’s an entirely separate problem.
As someone that was stuck in the Glicko Ghetto of t8 (NA) for way too long. I really hope they do something that fixes this across the board.
And I don’t know why they didn’t artificially inflate the two lowest EU servers (like they did with ET and FC) so that Arbor can jump out of t9. Yeah, maybe the other server’s would hammer you just as well, but as we saw with the NA match-ups, that wasn’t even close to what happened.
It’s kind of fun to run in a golem zerg once in awhile, but yeah, from a spectator standpoint once you get past the ‘oooh’ stage, it is pretty boring.
Lol @ all the Omega’s though, it’s hard not to watch that and think someone is just trying to flash ‘bling’. Though, to be fair, the ~30 golems that we had to take over the entire NSP borderlands Saturday night was just as unnecessary, but still fun to get it all together.
Regardless of the intentions, as long as you are having fun, that’s the point.
There are two different KING guilds on SF, but as far as I know only one of them really WvWs, if you see mass numbers in WvW it is the Unified Kingdom [KING] guild ran by King A R T H U R (or however you spell his name).
Well I never mentioned how good I was but since you asked. On 3/5 of my toons I am far above average, on one just average and my 5th the necro I’d say a bit below average.
Hmm, we better work on that necro then. It’s a good thing there are so many of us mindless zombies for you to practice on, I’m sure you could 1v12-15 right? That’s enough to start your necro off to those 1v20’s as an average player, and then eventually you’ll have improved to 1v40’s before we leave YOUR tier.
Your only winning because of numbers. You can barely get a 40-50k lead while out populating 2 servers combined. Unfortunately, those numbers mean you will have green reserved until you have scraped together enough points to enter T6. Which also means we have to put up with your sea of numbers until then. Good thing for the most part your warriors quit by Monday, it makes the weekdays playable.
Claim winning server is skill-less? Check
Exaggerating outnumbered values? Check
Weekend warriors pulling all the weight? Check
Redundant points reinforced by victim play? Check
It’s a good thing we have you other servers to teach us how the real world works. I mean, the way you guys destroyed us when we came into tier 7 was a real eye opener, all the tauntin… erm prophecy … about how long we would last was impeccably accurate. So please, more advice from the omniscient Airstu please.
We all know SF belongs to a zerging tier. We’re just encouraging you to reach your objectives.
Don’t get lazy ! Do I have to send Obsessïon to your LA to start the recruitement? He’s so good
I kind of want to see Obsessïon’s recruitment messages, and hey if you guys can get us some nightly/morning bodies I’ll take it :P.
FWIW though, the majority of commanders/leaders know that once we hit t6 it could be (will be) a pretty bumpy ride, so they’ve backed off on pushing as hard as we have been. We may just bounce back between t6/t7, which would probably cause more burnout and put our numbers near t7 for good.
How bout you take your numbers – get them motivated, and use them to GTFO of our tier so we can go back to balanced matches.. kthnxbb
40k leads aren’t cutting it, how bout YOU bring it…
Get out of the tier and bring it, lol. Kind of an oxymoronic statement. I think it’s funny how NSP/HoD loves to tell us how bad we will fare in further tiers, yet wants us to leave as soon as possible.
Good luck doing anything in the higher tiers if you can’t prevent little tiny NSP from rolling during the week. You roll huge numbers for about a 1/3 of the day and then check out. If your numbers get bored and lose interest winning, I can imagine how vacant WvW will look when you get stomped by someone.
Uh, we know. Thanks for reiterating it for the hundredth time. It would be more fun if you brought your night numbers into primetime though.
No coverage gap capping doesn’t really count as bringing it, since there’s really not much we can do about that other than spam recruitment. Grats on the accomplishment though, just would be nice if it was actually providing a challenge to the core in some way.
We are getting way lazy, like worse lazy than we were in t8 before ET/FC got transfers, it’s makin’ me cry. There was nearly no one on yesterday until around 9PM Mountain, and that only lasted for an hour or so.
Necroing this thread again. Hello land of oceanic (and EU) peoples, Sorrow’s Furnace could use your help.
We are most likely going to bounce into t6 within the next week or two and could really use a stronger overnight/morning presence. If you are considering a move at any time please feel free to post in here for questions or pm me.
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