Sorrow’s Furnace – Commander/Officer
Kabal of the Righteous [Seed]
Do you guys ever post score updates? I wanna see.
Hey mid bro, how’s that beatdown on GOM going ?… Oh wait..
I actually want to see a score update as well tbqh. Soooo postings, plz.
Honesty , some of them camp yaks hit harder then most of the people from [lolseed].
You made me laugh out loud at work. <333
Ehh, I’d rather defensive actions be rewarded more, and the devs seem to agree with me.
@at the CoSA dude…if you guys have issues with us and others like us you might as well have Ex Shinra join our group again. As a guild, We absolutely adore his criticisms and really value his thoughts as we strive to improve or skills as players. In fact, is there any way we hire him out as a consultant….would love to have his stellar advice on hand all the time…
I feel like there is an interesting story here.
That’s not what I said or meant at all.
A Hardcore WvW player will eventually have all their character to max level.
Hardcore players embrace a challenge, don’t ask for that challenge to be made easier.
And no, you can play defensively and roam and do all sorts of things to earn your levels. It just gives something for more dedicated players to work for harder. how they get there is up to them.
Oh sure, you could play defensively, it will just take 4-7 times longer to earn the same amount of WXP -_-.
Hardcore players definitely embrace a challenge. WXP isn’t challenging though. Especially when the easiest way to obtain it is to roflafk in a zerg.
I feel like I am being trolled now that I think about it … y/n?
Are you hatin’ on my baddies? Leave my mindless zombie horde alone, they don’t do anything … erm .. to you …
*walks away.
Whooooa, what happened ET and FC?
*goes back to page 1 to catch up.
get your popcorn.
Lol, popcorn was appropriate. Though I have to admit I don’t think it compared to the NSP vs HoD guild drama in the t7 thread yet. Even when you guys have drama you are civil about it XD.
That’s good to see they pushed a bit competitively, it’s too bad it’s the night-capping stuff; as you can’t really counter that without recruiting or waiting for them to get bored lol. We ran into this scenario a few times with both FC and ET.
Whooooa, what happened ET and FC?
*goes back to page 1 to catch up.
Is this a joke? o.O Are you really asking why Green is winning?
I think it is appropriate to give the hardcore wvw fans something to work toward.
Lol @ the idea that because we don’t play on one char the whole time we aren’t hardcore :P. It is rather alienating unless you play a specific way (one char on the offensive zerg) with how long it takes. I just stopped caring, for me the WvW update was basically moar crap.
Lol. Now I kind of want to be bumped up to t6 -_-.
I don’t think so, I think IoJ will even out their score a bit over the week and soonest would be next week.
That fight gave me a headache and caused more than one of my guild members to rage quit. Until last Friday I have never had so many stacks of confusion in my life. Died just trying to get rid of them. Sure was a painful fight for sure.
Haha, I hate being on the receiving end of a shatterbomb mesmer. Which is probably why I enjoy playing one so much, to see all those bodies drop seconds after I hit F2 makes me laugh.
We were running a guild event so we had a lot of PvE’ers I was commanding around trying to show the ropes to and have fun with. We kept getting wiped by a massive NSP zerg, I was trying really hard not to get frustrated lol. We had to change our tactics quite a bit to accomplish anything, it was a fun learning experience.
It’s over my head as to why – we held both GoM and NSP for the two weeks before you guys rose up (we even had a solid lead for the three and a half days prior to transfers opening, so that wasn’t the main reason, though it did help, I’m sure).
Guess it doesn’t help that we dropped to Medium (and have only now just risen to High) population since you guys moved up a tier, while everyone else has consistently remained at Very High. :/
I’m guessing its just the initial shock of getting into a losing scenario, I can almost guarantee it will happen to us if we get in t6. People just don’t like to lose when they’ve been winning for so long.
Lol, we go after NSP far more than we go after HoD. We like to stomp the forum trolls XD.
Seriously though HoD, you’re just easier to hold stuff off against, when we cap stuff it’s far easier to hold against you, than NSP; on average they are just better :P, or more dedicated (whichever).
Rob, I don’t know if you were running around with your guild on reset night in the NSP Borderlands but kitten that was fun. I didn’t realize Os had so many numbers. That fight in Bay with us (PvP and Seed) versus you guys (what seemed like an infinite supply of Os bodies) was awesome. Fighting your zergs was some of the most fun I’ve ever had in WvW (yes, even when you slaughtered us).
edit: Also bleh at moving up to t6, we are having fun with you guys XD.
It is a problem, most of us are just used to it to be quite honest. I lose my target all the kitten time and just target another one. If its necessary to stay on a target I use the targetting option when in a group. This isn’t WvW specific though, and it has been brought up MANY times before. This will probably get moved to the suggestions forums, again.
I for one, would like this fixed though, it is ugly behavior. And it took me quite a bit of time to get used to dealing with it, as it has many others.
HoD trebs from an area that should be siege blocked.
http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/9463/gw016p.jpg
http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/5985/gw017iw.jpgPlease note the HoD dancing on my body, classy!
Was it HoD that also did this up near their northwest Tower on their own BLands as well? Someone was doing it with ballistas, might have actually been in a previous match *shrug. Hopefully they fix that kind of stuff soon.
i have not been able to throw seige that far up.. dont know if it is an exploit or not but unless dev’s say otherwise ( if they have i haven’t read it) standing outside a seige block zone and throwing seige back into it is not exploiting. if it was then anet would have extended the seige block radius so seige could only be placed where they see fit and fair. also the placement of those is easily countered with a treb.
They did say otherwise, and they are looking into fixing it. I believe it was a Devon post maybe a week ago. I’ll look for it.
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I actually rather hope we get back to the 2 week matches that were originally intended. As long as the Glicko2 problems are solved in the interim.
Is there a reason that Guilds are capped at 500 members and you are only able to join 5 guilds?
The first part I’m not overly concerned about I was just wondering what the logic behind it was.
The second, however, I have found myself guildcapped -_-. I have my personal guild (for bankspace), my main guild, an officers guild (since there is no officer chat, for meetings and such), an alliance guild (guild that contains WvW players on our server for coordination), and a friends guild (that is on another server that I guest to and rep and help them at times).
In order to have space for everything, I had to leave a guild that I started with another friend at launch, which was mostly inactive but it was still a little sad. I’m not necessarily complaining, but I am curious about the logic behind 5 guilds here as well, and if there is a reason that it could not be increased at some point in time?
Odd I have a bad feeling coming in.
Like nerfs….
Same, more skill limitations, more zerg encouragement (e.g. 5-target caps), etc.
Unless it’s warrior of course. Double the damage, triple the boons, and quadruple the faceroll XD.
Yeah, we will probably be here for a couple weeks, if not longer.
Ogod Mr. Foreman, do you realize how much you just altered the market with a semi-vague answer lol? And I was getting close to having enough monies for the greatsword.
I respect you. You’ve put up with a lot of bashing over the video and misconceptions about the meaning of your post and kept a level head the entire time while also showing respect where deserved and agreeing to the points you were initially wrong about. Kudos
I feel bad about causing more drama, ideally it was trying to ignore the trolls and reign in the topic back to the fights we were having. I think Nicolatte.5360 might have a point about videos and feats until we’ve settle with our match a bit more. So, lesson learned there.
Your sentiment is appreciated though (not what I was expecting from XOXO). I have yet to encounter you guys in battle yet as well, hopefully that will be less dramatic than our PAXA incident, yet still fun when it does happen.
Words…
We have no ill will against you, at all. We’d just seen your posts on the forums and were excited to encounter PAXA. We didn’t know you had just fought the NSP group that we previously fought out of the tower, and we weren’t calling you out other than to ask where you guys went.
You dismissed us and we responded showing that we had in fact fought you. That is all. We had fun. You don’t need to defend yourself, we had fun, you guys left, we were a bit bummed, that was it.
If PAXA did work their way through NSP back up to us and hold us as well as you guys did for the time you were there, that’s a statement in itself of how well grouped up you are, it’s just too bad we didn’t get to fight against that.
I look forward to encountering you guys again sometime.
Also, I don’t think I am familiar with an ND guild on Sorrows Furnace, at least off the top of my head.
[ND] is Kremklin’s guild, Nine Divines.
Oh kitten I think Krem is the only one I’ve ever seen from that guild -_-. Would be a sad day if he was moving off :P.
Perhaps you ought to review your understanding of the red herring fallacy as my mention of your deliberate faulty number counting is exactly what the posting of that video was about. Even though the individual who posted the video edited his message, his original message and post-edit still give the same message which is to try and shame paxa and brag about your own abilities. Now I know that you are trying to back off at this point seeing as how you understand that it won’t benefit you, but you ought to have thought about that prior to posting those original messages.
Prove anything you just said. All it appears you’re doing is throwing baseless accusations at us.
- Point out the bragging.
- Point out the shaming.
- Point out the backing off.
At this point in time, it seems like you are the one with the bone to pick, unless you’re trolling. If so, congratulations, you got a response.
Only one of those people was dead, namely the [LYSS] member as can be clearly seen in the video.
You feel the need to boast and brag about your supposed achievements and perhaps if it was how you said, then you may have had the right to be proud. However it appears that you purposefully lied in order to shame your opponent. There is absolutely no honour, nor anything respectful about that.
If you wish to “Brag” then do so based on merit, not on a lie.
That, is known as a red herring, just an fyi. We had a LOT of fun here, a member of PAXA said they had never seen our tag that night, so we posted a video. We also described the situation as it played out to us. If that is ‘shaming’ and ‘purposely lying’ then feel happy that you have called us out on it.
Could there have been more people on our side than we remember? Absolutely. Was that the point? No. If people are going to exaggerate and post insane numbers (30+) and we reply with what we experienced that’s far from being aggressive, at least in my opinion.
As I’ve stipulated many times over, we were disappointed when they left. You making assumptions about our intentions is the only ‘shaming’ act I’ve seen. Is there really a need for such hostility?
Just from what I can see, 10-11 people all from different guilds +5 from Seed. Those are just the ones that I can clearly identify.
Attached is a screen-cap from your video in which I highlight the tags.
Facts suck eh?
When PAXA ran up behind us, many of those ‘tags’ were already dead from NSP. Unfortunately Piiz ran off to chase one of PAXA down as we fought the rest of them off so you only caught a trail of it. Regardless of what you intended with your “facts”, it was a way fun fight and we were disappointed they left. That is all. Enjoy whatever kitten envy points you feel you need to prove after the fact.
Anyway, he said she said
I’m better than you!! No WAY!!
Memory is an interesting thing that varies from person to person.Was a fun night, carry on.
It was way fun. Look forward to seeing you on the battlefield again.
You are claiming that noone gets downed in your video? ROFL watch it again try 10 secs in for the first revive to pop up wait a few more for the others.
You’r right, there are three people that get downed in the video, one is from the Champ, and two are on the lower platform outside. However, they were not killed. And PAXA left, but thanks for pointing out what was obviously most relevant.
False false false!!! Holy crap, the lieing is awful. 6 of us Splt/SPCA and 8 [NSP], plus I’m sure a couple PuGs defended that tower for awhile after SF trebbed the walls. It was awesome fights for a long time, then SF amassed at LEAST 20-30 people, I’ll admit I can’t get an exact count when all the nameplates stack up but that right there was a “zurg”.
Again, we held out for awhile, PAXA even flanked the SF zerg a couple times, but in the end SF massed up, and wiped us NSP off the tower. Casualties on both sides so who knows what the “real” count was, but shortly after we wiped PAXA took 7 into the tower, I walked back in to observe as PAXA did indeed hit what looked like 15+ players in the lord room, killed a few, but ended up losing out. It was not “6+2 PuGs”, that is complete garbage. All your guild or not the odds were not even for us, nor HoD.But hey, numbers are hard to count in WvW and it’s my word against yours, so I guess feel free to gloat over the “even matchup”. Regardless I had a blast.
Lol, there is no way we had 30 people there. We barely had 15 max the entire night until EB was capped fully (since that where the majority of our focus was), when EB was capped we got a huge influx, but that wasn’t until an hour or so later. You’re right, we are arguing my word against yours, but quite frankly, if there was 30 in that map last night I wouldn’t have remained there as long as I did. I was helping out because it was requested. I would have probably gone into NSP’s borderlands (which we ended up doing later that night and snagging their bay).
Also, we only encountered PAXA the one time that night, that was it. I think you may be thinking about another incident.
edit: Splt on the otherhand, we wiped several times over. But you guys were pretty fragmented.
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Clearly my eyes are deceiving me I will trust you over what I watched.
Give me a timestamp at which point PAXA visibly downs or kills someone. Prove your point with facts instead of adwords and injecting bias beforehand.
Anyway, the end point was that we wanted to fight PAXA, but they turned tail and didn’t show up again that night, so it was dissapointing. No one said anything about them failing or us owning them.
If you honestly believe you bested PAXA in this fight congrats. Next time though can I suggest just saying you smoked them even odds and they left map and leave it at that instead of providing video evidence to show what really occurred. Keep explaining how you saw it but anyone who watched that clip can clearly see it was not even close to even odds and they got more kills than your group did.
Again, when Piiz posts the first half, you’ll see just exactly how many ‘kills’ PAXA got, which was zero. The dead and downed were from NSP earlier as we broke in.
dank just listed off guild names so i won’t get into that but i was talking about npc commander not champion, you know…breakout event?
First, the breakout event wasn’t even up, and if it was it would have been NSP’s breakout, not ours… so we would have been fighting him as well. The only Champion up was the tower champ and it was NSP’s, hitting us as well.
I talked to one of the ND guys. He said they wanted to try out the scene from our side of the fence. He mentioned ND is primarily a small man roamer guild and are considering moving away from the zerg focused server.
Ah, interesting, do you know what the guild name was by chance? In any case, as long as they weren’t spying, that’s a jerk move. If they end up xferring hopefully they have fun where they go.
Weird thing 1 ND guild transfer and 2 PVP guild transfers to our server. They were with us fighting at SF spawn in our BL last night. Will never turn away anyone who wants to transfer, but one has to wonder, “Is it genuine that they wanted a change of scenery, OR is it one of the new TACTICS SF has been trying out?”
Also to the guild leaders of ND and PVP:
If a guildie transfers to a rival server what are your policies? Guesting is one thing, a complete paid transfer is another. Heck even if you are thinking of getting away from the zerg server and looking to have more fun with us by moving the whole guild this way, I am cool with that too. But if it is a way to spy on our movements, much shame.
To be fair, if one of my guildies has transferred to another server that we are fighting, its an instant kick from the guild.
We ran into an issue similar to this frequently in t8, are you sure they were the same guild and not just the same tag? We had several guilds in t8 with the same tags, I think I’ve also noticed a [KING] guild on HoD. You should get some caps next time if that is the case.
Also, I don’t think I am familiar with an ND guild on Sorrows Furnace, at least off the top of my head.
Here’s a short clip of [Seed] and some pugs getting attacked by a HoD group trying to ninja Bluelake after we cleared NSP out.
P.S. sorry for the bad editing
P.P.S. paxa might want to watch itThis is your big paxa fail? I count atleast 15 guys there, plus npc commander which can 1 shot people and actually did to one of the paxa guys. So 15 plus commander vs their 5 and you expected them to win?
Lol, there was 6 of us guildies there, with 2 pugs. There was at least 6 PAXA guys that ran up and we were inside an NSP tower. We just got done fighting off a 10~ish man NSP-named NSP guild and were trying to cap when they ran up. Killed the HoD off and capped the tower as well. It was pretty fun, although rather disillusioning as well.
PAXA showed up, finally they left the forum and showed their faces. Didnt present anything though, lots of talk, not much to show.
Sorry, don’t remember dying to any [seed] people. Losing to people not in a zerg, even having a good fight with people not in a zerg, usually leaves an impression on us. Your name doesn’t ring any bell.
Here’s a short clip of [Seed] and some pugs getting attacked by a HoD group trying to ninja Bluelake after we cleared NSP out.
P.S. sorry for the bad editing
P.P.S. paxa might want to watch it
Lol, was an interesting fight.
I wish spakittenop would work just a tad bit better so I could actually play at work but ALAS!
What is this … ‘spakittenop’ you speak of?
Edit: oic. Lol @ swearwords without vowels being edited in the middle of words.
SF: 172,716
NSP: 127,283
HoD: 124,017
Thank you kindly.
Non-alcoholic please. Can anyone get a score update btw -_-?
And go -_-.
Seriously though, the trolling is getting old, can we be done with that?
The Truth:
the only real reason why people “think” PAXA sucks (ha) is because we troll the kitten out of these forums. If we didn’t I would be willing to bet that half the naysayers here would be singing our praises. Anyway, no matter what you think of us, when our group rolls by most people raise the alarm and start preparing…and that is a sign of a worthy foe.
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If you got the stones, don’t care what other players think, and love stomping people so hard they lie about it, send us a tell…we would love to see what you got!
So question, since I’ve asked two other times and your guildie doesn’t seem to want to respond. Why did PAXA disappear last night after we wiped them once? I was genuinely interested in seeing how you fought in the world, as I’ve only seen one or two of you around before. It was disappointing that you guys didn’t come back for another fight, especially since we had similar numbers.
Ironically, part of the answer to the Agg puzzle is to NOT spend so much time trying to solve them. But where’s the fun in that?
Well yeah, ignoring is better for the overall score, lol. But it’s hard to ignore how much fun they bring to the table in the lower tiers. I imagine it’s pretty commonplace once you get higher.
Here’s where there is a clear disconnect between you guys and us… You can paint our map red…. We don’t care about points so that’s a non-issue. Fact is simple, if you run in a Zerg and brag you will receive zero credit and respect from any of us. We just don’t care that you think “wvw is about siege warfare” lol…. Not for us. For PAXA, wvw is a 3 faction open world pvp game where we can run a consistent group and get 1-2-300 kills a night with 5 guys. Thats what it is for us.
Kills of NPCs maybe? I’m curious where you were getting these kills last night. The second we wiped the PAXA group you disappeared from the map o.O.
It’s just that they’re using a particular strategy that we haven’t seen used so effectively at the other tiers we’ve been in, so much of our enjoyment this week has come from trying to solve that riddle.
That was our exact sentiment when all those t1/t2’s transferred down. It was something new and shiny, and omg it was fun to play with and figure it out and how to counteract it. That seems to be lacking in t7 so far. Glad you guys are having fun down there though.
We have never encountered anything like Agg before. We are learning and adapting and testing out new tactics. Only time will tell how successful we are, but we are definitely improving. The rest of ET has not been too hard to deal with, and you can easily tell if Agg is online based on whether ET is winning or losing. (No offense intended to ET).
That makes it sound like FoE isn’t present very much. Are they not around anymore? Agg and FoE were two fairly prominent ET thorns in our side while we were down there.
That’s part of what makes me miss t8 -_-, at least you guys get to have relevant discussions to the thread. How does GoM fare against ET’s zergball tactics, and FC’s new coordination/gear knowledge from VK?
Are they just scoring during non-peak hours? Or are they holding their own against the [Agg]’s of t8?
For those on GoM that dislike SF posting here, sorry in advance. But we are excited and happy to watch FC and ET do well, especially considering the frustration they went through as long as they have. If our encouragement is really bothering you, you’re welcome to report us, but AFAIK we aren’t breaking any rules.
And if it really is a problem, you might want to hold the same standards and have prevent your own server from posting in the t7 threads. As I’m sure you can see, that’s not really going to happen. Hope you are having fun with the t8 match though, it looks pretty even.
If only insisting something was true, despite the evidence, made it true.
Back on topic though, fun fight last night PAXA, even if it was relative brief. In SFBL, NSP had their breakout tower, as my guild group and a couple pugs killed off the remaining NSP (guild tag) people, a bunch of HoD PAXA tags ran up confusing us for a brief second. After wiping that group didn’t see you guys again, was dissapointed.
Wanted to see these elite group synergy that has been talked up so much recently.
GoM has been consistently between 4k and 6k behind you ET. Will they catch up :P, I wanna see you guys in t7 sometime, so puuush.
And that makes a difference from anywhere else in the map how? The only thing you can stockpile at spawn is golems, and if placed properly, they can’t do anything about it.
And if are you about to golem rush, there are plenty of people there, that are easy enough to see in the non-buggy area near the spawn. It’s a non-issue.
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