Guild Wars 2

katz.8376:

big bro, you ok?

Nope.

I still haven’t seen you address the question of how you keep you pet’s up during boss fights.

Yeah, this might be nice for clearing some trash. But during boss fights (which is the heart of the challenging content in high level FotM), especially with no points in BM, all those crit stacks mean jack when your pet is dead.

Blah, dev’s please take a look at this and provide some clarification. Feel like I’m wasting a LOT of my time on a bugged out achievement.

Nevets Crimsonwing.5271:

Chibi.1839:

aqlye.4617:

i dodged all the aoes except during the cannon phrase(got hit twice) and i still didnt get the achievements. i wonder are we suppose to dodge every single aoe(including the cannon phrase)?
well not related to this topic …. any1 got the Unfriendly Skies achievements? i only got the timer up once (left 20 second) and our group dont know how to use the cannon… in the end we missed the achievement :’(

You have to pick up the cannon horik drops and put in on the ship near it

Wrong achievement.

Read the post please, he was answering the second half…

…. any1 got the Unfriendly Skies achievements? i only got the timer up once (left 20 second) and our group dont know how to use the cannon… in the end we missed the achievement :’(

That being said … dev’s? A little help please?

Dodging does work. It has the same mechanics as the bubble with Lupicus though. You have to dodge so that the exact middle of your dodge animation is when you will hit the beam.

It’s extremely hard to accomplish, (and not worth the attempt as boxes are stupid easy) but it is possible.

Why does this thread indicate a dev post, yet I don’t see one? Did a dev comment and then remove his post?

Where?
/15chars

Ronah.2869:

This dungeon is do-able only by those who managed to do the clock tower in Halloween plus a few more. The rest are totally excluded.

Lol, no, it’s not. Die a lot, and learn the mechanics, once you get the rythym down it’s ridiculously easy.

If you still can’t do it, wuss out, grab a bunch of PVT (Soldier’s) Guard’s and Warriors and do it. Pretty much a faceroll at that point.

Dev clarification here would be greatly appreciated :/.

*wink wink nudge nudge.

But really, it’s great to have something to work towards, at this point though, I have yet to see confirmation of someone actually getting the achievement, as opposed to meeting a bunch of different criteria.

So, can someone post a screenie or something of them getting it to ensure it’s not bugged? And two … clarification on what is needed.

Ty Manoa XD, I forgot about this.

Also if anyone has video of SF in action, link it and I will throw it up in the main post as well.

osif.8673:

And don’t forget, if you’re hungry you can be eating a burger in one hand and still be playing super efficiently and skillfully using your other hand and 3 buttons. Or you can be doing other things with your real life off-hand that we shall not discuss any further.

EDIT: Actually, let’s discuss it… you can be writing a very nicely written and well documented journal of your burger-eating-cannoning people running by session that preceded your journal entry-cannoning people running by session.

Edit #2: and then you can grease the door knob and yank the chain while thinking of all of your burger eating, journal writing, monkey spanking-cannoning people running by sessions.

Sounds like you are jealous of burgers. They get all the attention.

Panic.1862:

Like ABYS roflstomping KING a couple nights ago in NSP BL? That was a fun Open field fight right there.

Roflstomping is definitely a sign of superior skill and tactics. Just ask ET and FC, it was clearly our superior skill that wiped them for nearly 3 months in a row.

/s

I personally don’t associate roflstomping with fun. Outnumbering your opponent so they don’t have a chance is not only boring, it causes you to stagnate and get worse (not better). But congrats I guess, take what you can get.

Arenanet kitten you. Seriously. Before the karka revamp it was rage inducing, but now? With the addition of the town is near perma contested, so an insane amount of karka spawn inside the town you need to walk through to finish.

Where the kitten is your QA group?

The ONLY way to complete this rush before was to have 3-5 people clearing the events, Broodmother, Wurms that one-shot, escort events, etc. Now, you have to wait and rely on the server to complete events within the 15 timeframe because everything scales up to all hell.

The clusterkitten of events and frequency of them, needs to go. Learn to test your kitten please.

Red/Blue is up to 900 now? kittene. That would drive me batty. Whatever happened to Green XD, unless Shamrock was just a joke.

I’m confused, why was this thread made? Fairly positive we aren’t going to be matched up again… unless this is trolling, and I’m just not seeing it.

I agree wholeheartedly with better map design, but I also like the idea of more unique types of siege. I don’t think these need to be mutually exclusive.

Jscull.2514:

Not to rain on a parade, but LB/GS wrecks when in a zerg, or in a solo/2v2 fight…..other than that youre going to die as soon as you are focused.

Just so all you rangers in this thread are aware, YOU WILL be the PAXA 5 man’s target first just about 80% of the time. Hands down the easiest (along with staff ele) class to kill when focusing.

No you’re right, it’s definitely situational. I find I hold my own in smaller roaming fights but yeah, if I am focused and not melee auto-attacking for the evasion, I have to gtfo quick. Luckily the 3 skill on GS has a decent cooldown for doing just that, and if I am near water at all, using 3 on the spear underwater puts me far ahead of any other prof, even Mesmers have trouble keeping up underwater.

Cyphel.3659:

Lol, that is our resident EB troll..

I noticed most rangers use Longbow now. Last I checked everyone was “qqqqqqqqqqq LB sucks qqqqqqqqq” so what happened? haha

When this happened on SFR it spawned a huge increase in guardians and wall of reflection usage….until all the rangers quit/rerolled

LB/GS Ranger with PVT gear is tanky/evasive as all hell, and absolutely wrecks when focus firing. I love firing 5 on LB into a zerg, running in with a barrage, swapping, getting two rounds of auto-attacks of while evading tons of attacks with the 3 chain skill on auto attack of GS, and then dashing back out with 3. <3 dat mobility and control.

dunnberry.2964:

Can someone please tell me the logic behind WvW guilds not being able to recruit in this sub forum? Most WvWers who are pretty hardcore only look at the WvW forums, I personally have barely ever looked at guild forums and they are such a mess that it’s hard to navigate them, so why can’t WvW guilds put up threads here to recruit players for their guild on their server as well? Just doesn’t seem to make sense to me

Just put it in your World Recruitment thread, ask the guy running it to throw it in there. Not that hard.

King Amadaeus.8619:

Much respect to [BS], you guys run a tight group out there, been having a blast fighting you guys when I see ya.

BS has always been awesome. Whenever there is a BS tag, there’s always a certain human Mesmer that I look out for. Got a great build, knows how to play well, and gives me a run for my money. One of the few I’ve run into that consistently give me a good Mesmer vs Mesmer match.

I think they have grown though, I’ve noticed more of their tags when I hop in the BLs, can’t really attest to some of members I don’t recognize, other than a ballsy thief I ran into the other day.

Olvendred.3027:

It’s different to traits. You can only have 70 trait points, but eventually, you will be able to have every single wvw upgrade.

The occasional opportunity to reset after a major patch seems sufficient.

Yeah after thousands of hours…. PER CHARACTER. Dumb design, either quadruple the already increased methods of WXP earnings, or give us a way to reset it. It’s a joke.

Merendel.7128:

Generaly larger guilds will spend extra influence to rush the job on the buffs. Smaller guilds or less active ones have a harder time doing this due to simply not haveing the influence income to spam rush jobs and maintain complete buff coverage. On estratagy is to leave the full aray of buffs to larger guilds for holding big objectives like the keeps while smaller guilds go only for supply buffs and claim camps as they cap them alowing your group to put up more siege on location.

What are the size of guilds that can keep WvW buffs up constantly? That is a hell of a lot of influence. And are these just WvW guilds, or are there capped PvX guilds that can keep WvW buffs up while maintaining all the other PvE upgrades/guild missions/buffs etc?

I personally think that the WvW claiming buffs should last much longer than they currently do. Coming from a largely PvX guild, we like contributing to WvW when we can, but with the limitations on the number of slots for researching things it makes it really hard to do this other than once a week (on reset nights, and the buffs only last what 12 hours~).

Beyond that, I have a hard time seeing even a WvW-based guild keeping those buffs up, maybe t1-t2 can accomplish that? Need someone’s perspective from those tiers here.

styx.7294:

pulsecodesgnl.3470:

styx.7294:

pulsecodesgnl.3470:

Parthis.2091:

akitten.8230:

If you really want to change the dynamics of WvW, dissolve the EU servers and shuffle them into NA, as WvW is a 24-hour game anyways. Don’t just put little league teams in the professionals.

Ahaha… no.

Next stupid idea, ho!

Out of curiosity, why would that be a bad thing? Coverage wars aren’t really any fun for anyone. You can’t fight against someone who isn’t there when you play.

Seems like the suggestion is always to dissolve EU and make them part of NA. It’s so self-centered, haha. I dunno, I guess the world revolves around my timezone.

That aside, you can’t merge the servers ‘cause their populations are bigger than WvW population. And there’s no reason to think that it would solve any coverage problems. Just like NA servers don’t all have their strongest time in NA, EU servers don’t all have their strongest time in EU.

Noo yeah, I wouldn’t want to merge them entirely. But maybe some kind of workaround for WvW. So like one EU server gets matched up with an NA server for WvW population or something. Iono just brainstorming, it would just be nice if we weren’t fighting proxy wars.

I always got the impression that your server was pretty extreme, with very high coverage durin NA and very low otherwise. Is that what it’s like?

Yeah, weekends and NA primetime are our strongsuits. We don’t have much night/day coverage.

styx.7294:

pulsecodesgnl.3470:

Parthis.2091:

akitten.8230:

If you really want to change the dynamics of WvW, dissolve the EU servers and shuffle them into NA, as WvW is a 24-hour game anyways. Don’t just put little league teams in the professionals.

Ahaha… no.

Next stupid idea, ho!

Out of curiosity, why would that be a bad thing? Coverage wars aren’t really any fun for anyone. You can’t fight against someone who isn’t there when you play.

Seems like the suggestion is always to dissolve EU and make them part of NA. It’s so self-centered, haha. I dunno, I guess the world revolves around my timezone.

That aside, you can’t merge the servers ‘cause their populations are bigger than WvW population. And there’s no reason to think that it would solve any coverage problems. Just like NA servers don’t all have their strongest time in NA, EU servers don’t all have their strongest time in EU.

Noo yeah, I wouldn’t want to merge them entirely. But maybe some kind of workaround for WvW. So like one EU server gets matched up with an NA server for WvW population or something. Iono just brainstorming, it would just be nice if we weren’t fighting proxy wars.

Parthis.2091:

akitten.8230:

If you really want to change the dynamics of WvW, dissolve the EU servers and shuffle them into NA, as WvW is a 24-hour game anyways. Don’t just put little league teams in the professionals.

Ahaha… no.

Next stupid idea, ho!

Out of curiosity, why would that be a bad thing? Coverage wars aren’t really any fun for anyone. You can’t fight against someone who isn’t there when you play.

Aratoa.7398:

The best part about this post is how you go from saying that every server has good players, bad players, wins fights and loses fights (all correct), then switch over to characterizing an entire server and saying HoD are all quitters. Very classy and completely contradictory to the point you were making less then a paragraph earlier. Every server has quitters, yours does too and characterizing an entire server based on a win in the past is patently wrong. If HoD crushed SF, I’d bet you would see quite a few less people on the battlefield. Perhaps you shouldn’t be on your high horse as well?

To be fair, we are biased, because when we fought you guys in t7, you guys did kind of quit. Part of that was because you lost your fairweathers from the free transfers that pushed you guys to the top of t7 before we came in. But then yeah, during the matchup threads there were plenty of posts about how HoD was giving up in the tier and stopped fighting, which was clearly indicated by the abysmal scores the last week we fought each other.

There’s still plenty of quality guilds/players on HoD, you just had the unfortunate side effect of being a micro-bandwagon server with that second phase of free transfers. It could have been other things I guess, that’s just what we saw though.

osif.8673:

Did someone just say PAXA wasn’t a QQ hypocrite guild? Shocking. Truly shocking. We obviously haven’t been forum warring enough these days.

Lately :P. It’s true, you and XOXO used make me groan every time I tried to sift through the t7 threads. Step up your game, son.

But even if you did eventually troll, I remember fighting you guys when we were in t7 and you actually held your own and backed up anything you guys called out, this troll group on the other hand cry’s about roaming and sticks to the back of zerg’s tails like feederfish while getting wiped which prompts how obviously more skilled they are messages on the matchup threads.

I haven’t encountered you guys yet since our matchup though, where/when are you guys usually running around these days?

Bllade.1029:

“Less time complaining and holding things instead.” Jesus Christ. HoD are you reading this? I wan’t all of HoD to see what you just wrote down here. And I garuntee each and every one of them will give you the middle finger.

PPT is doing well, because apparently your weekday coverage sucks. This further solidifies my argument. Arena Net can fix all of this. very very easily.

Coverage/Population = Win

Nice attempt to garner widespread animosity when I was calling you and your guild specifically for complaining like a bunch of children, which you subsequently proved yet again.

PAXA, MEND, and LK can at least hold their own without providing double standards, hypocrisy and excess QQ-fests, what’s your excuse?

VLK – kings of the HoD kittenfest. Seriously that is all I see from you guys. And for claiming to roam all the time you sure run around with LK quite a bit.

The whole “zergs only press 1” argument is tired and worn out, stop using it, it’s not true; and it only serves to make fun of people because they aren’t in your clique. If you’ve been in any decent zerg battle (where ANet’s servers don’t fail and only allow you to hit one skill every 30 seconds), there’s clearly a differential between zergs that know how to utilize their players and skills and those who don’t.

LK on HoD knows this well, I think they are the closest I’ve seen to an HoD zergball that knows how to group up, they could definitely practice on AoE and group buffs if zergballing is their aim, but even playing a zerg smart they are tough cookies against numbers larger than their own.

For being so outnumbered and pressing 1 so inferior, you seem to do just fine with PPT. Maybe spend less time complaining and holding things instead?

Xsorus.2507:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/1-11-Ferguson-s-C-Sorrow-s-F-Eredon-T/first

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/1-25-T8-Sorrow-s-Ferguson-s-Eredon/page/2

Other people even noticed you had a large influx of players..Stop trying to deny it.

More anecdotal evidence? The logical fallacies you spout are endless, aren’t they? Apparently you didn’t read the thread’s there because the same information was given. You choose to believe the side your argument is on, that is confirmation bias, and again is evidence of nothing.

Just like t7 accused us of transfers mid battle, and everyone other server jokes about the winning server getting transfers.

We’ve already successfully derailed the conversation of this thread with these nonsensical arguments. If you want to continue arguing with crap for evidence then feel free to PM me. I’m going to refrain from responding in here unless it’s back on topic however.

Xsorus.2507:

There are posts of you talking about its completely unfun for everyone in T8 because your server vastly outnumbers the opposing side..

For nearly 3 months? It absolutely was when we were dominating the other side. This one week while taking a break from the constant coverage wars of t6? Yeah, it’s a nice refresher, but I don’t want to stay down here, and our rating would have to get the same negative random variable for that to happen again, which is rather unlikely.

I’m glad that there is MUCH more variance and opportunity to fight other people. I was looking forward to our projected match when Devon or whoever posted the example, it’s kind of a bummer we got into t8 instead, but everyone still seems to be having fun.

edit: stop editing your posts if you want me to answer the other questions.

Xsorus.2507:

Also lets examine the unprovable claim part.

Week 1 of this year you came in 2nd place against FC and ET was slightly behind you.

By week 3 you were starting to lead by almost 100k points…

Are you saying between Week 1 and Week 3 your server magically just got better to start covering a 100k lead?

From Week 5 to Week 12 you were beating the two servers you had trouble winning against in Week 1 by 200k each time.

Before free transfers ended we had one guild that left our server 3 weeks prior come back. After that the PvE events ended and we started building up our WvW core, which has grown with a lot of people that have been on Sorrow’s Furnace since launch. A lot of that is contributed to specific commanders/leaders getting our PvE playerbase involved and making it fun for everyone.

We honestly never received a crazy influx of new people, in fact we lost large amounts of our big South American guilds to Sanctum of Rall before the free transfers ended.

Tenebrous.2451:

Do you not think that aspects of WvW outside of rating do not affect morale? Do you think server morale does not matter?

As we see in the bottom tier in both NA and EU good turn out on all sides makes for better WvW.

Because it is the only visual way to measure WvW ingame, score matters for turn out and overall quaility of WvW if you like it or not, even if it is a purly psycological factor.

Sure morale matters to a degree, but if you rely on your fairweathers you’re going to have a bad time when things aren’t in your favor (which does happen, and should).

pulsecodesgnl.3470:

pulsecodesgnl.3470:

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I remember those well, and fondly. They were some of the most fun moments I had in WvW, coming up with tactics to take things when we were clearly outnumbered had the greatest sense of achievement and brought a bunch of us close together as we formed up to push harder. got free transfers of hundreds of players and farmed T8 for months.

Fixed that for ya.

Nice unprovable claim. Keep at it. Are all your arguments logical fallacies? Sorrow’s Furnace didn’t ever get large numbers of free transfers, and even when free transfers were made available the second time we were high pop and couldn’t get free xfers. But you keep believing whatever red herring you want to throw out there to help you sleep at night.

Xsorus.2507:

You’ve not fought anyone in months where you’ve been vastly outmatched…in fact the only time you’ve really fought people who have a massive advantage, its been your server.

You have like zero clue what it means to be zerged.

I’m sorry but you really need to learn to clarify your arguments. Every server knows what it means to be “zerged”.

I have been on Sorrows Furnace since launch. If you are talking about being stomped significantly like we were in the following weeks
http://mos.millenium.org/na/matchups/history/22
http://mos.millenium.org/na/matchups/history/24
http://mos.millenium.org/na/matchups/history/26
http://mos.millenium.org/na/matchups/history/30

I remember those well, and fondly. They were some of the most fun moments I had in WvW, coming up with tactics to take things when we were clearly outnumbered had the greatest sense of achievement and brought a bunch of us close together as we formed up to push harder.

Xsorus.2507:

People aren’t emo quitting over not winning, Its like you just don’t understand the concept since you’re on the zerging server.

The only good thing about this system is you will probably eventually get paired against a server that vastly outnumbers by a large margin, and we can watch your terrible server emo quit.

You mean the fairweathers? Yes, good riddance. They left when we we’re matched up against IoJ and DH and it was much more fun, people actually paid attention in map chat, it was easier to organize co-ordinated tactics, and the challenge gave us something to improve on.

The core of SF always looks forward to a fight where we are outmatched, we always learn and improve our tactics based on the scenario. When we win we get inflated again, and some of the new/fairweathers get picked up into the core. It’s how things work, relying on your fairweathers for fun is where you lose out on enjoyment.

Xsorus.2507:

Rofl, HoD just capped a majority of EB… really?

OMG..I’m sure that will let them overcome the 60k Point advantage you already have.

Not to mention, You have a 200 point Score advantage over HoD…..Big difference no doubt…But DB has a 400 Point Advantage over SBI…

Get. Over. Winning. If that was the case, 2/3rds of the entire game population would emoquit like you claim your server is. If you aren’t having fun with WvW, get out, it’s not meant for you.

Xsorus.2507:

https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/75598/gw115.jpg

Yea I can see why you must be having fun.

grin

Retort with out of context ad hominem’s. At least you went out on a losing argument in a classy manner, oh wait…

If your server can’t deal with a week of being outmatched that should say enough in and of itself. Even HoD and ET are still fighting hard, and their numbers are prevalent. HoD just capped a majority of EB and still have a presence in our borderlands despite our overwhelming numbers and the fact that we will recap most of it shortly.

What’s your excuse? Improve your tactics or leave WvW like the rest of the fairweathers until the rest of your server has done the work for you.

Xsorus.2507:

If they’re losing points, then they’re going to be paired against more and more servers where they completely outnumber their opponent..

How is this not hard to understand…No one cares if a Tier 1 server is losing points and a Tier 4 server is gaining points if the Tier 1 server is zerging the ever living crap out of the Tier 4 server 24/7.

The only reason this EVER happened was because ANet left a stagnant system in place for far too long, and not using Glicko2 like it was intended to be utilized. Yes, it is going to be a kitten for a bit while it fixes itself, and the bandwagon servers of tier 1 and tier 2 may end up winning a match, but so what?

If you’re really going to emoquit because of one week, then good riddance. WvW will be better off without you.

Xsorus.2507:

Judging by the fact that our WvW population has decreased dramatically this week..I’m going to guess most of them share my opinion on the matter.

Also, since you’re leading on your server by close to 60k points…I think its safe to say you might be enjoying the system more being on the side zerging the crap out of everyone else.

Lets pair you against some T1 servers next week and see how much enjoyment you have.

LOL @ fairweathers leaving as an argument for changing the system. Yeah, we are winning, if you are really using that as an argument you are not at all familiar with the Glicko Ghetto or Sorrow’s Furnace, at all.

Every server that isn’t winning will lose their fairweathers, and that will show your true WvW population, if you really think that’s something we are unfamiliar with please review the historical matchup data on mos.millenium.

If you’re losing vast numbers because you aren’t winning then you don’t really enjoy WvW as much as winning, are you? Deal with a kitten match for a week and get over it. Crying in excess because you feel entitled to something different just creates additional problems and bad fixes.

Xsorus.2507:

pulsecodesgnl.3470:

Xsorus.2507:

Rofl..

Only 1 match this week doesn’t have the Server with the Higher Rating being the one winning.

Congrats at missing the point, and adding obliviousness to an already obfuscated thread. Performance > Winning. If you need to win to enjoy WvW you should probably quit while you are ahead.

Getting Crushed in a match and gaining points isn’t “winning”

I’m on SBI, this matchup isn’t anymore “fun” then the previous matchup of getting zerged all day long.

People like yourself who believe that this “point” scale is good for the game completely miss the point of actual fun fights.

Winning in itself isn’t really goal for most servers, Because we’ve realized long ago that those who generally win matchup’s have more population…

I could give two craps if I gain points in a matchup, just like I give two craps if SBI wins a matchup..

What I do care about those is actual fun fights.

If you are completely unable to find fun fights you are playing wrong or looking for the game to change to your preferred meta. There are plenty others that seem to enjoy the match, and popping into your weekly thread, there are plenty on your own server that agree.

Why should the system cater to you? What makes you and your preferences more important than everyone elses?

Xsorus.2507:

Rofl..

Only 1 match this week doesn’t have the Server with the Higher Rating being the one winning.

Congrats at missing the point, and adding obliviousness to an already obfuscated thread. Performance > Winning. If you need to win to enjoy WvW you should probably quit while you are ahead.

Yeah, ded before it began, I won.

Loyo.8526:

As a sorrow’s Furnace solo/duo roamer, I hate this matchup. Atleast with the other one I had a chance of being zerged as much as the other servers because it was semi balanced. While HoD does have some good players to fight, I pretty much haven’t seen much compared to T6 weekends. You can’t fix WvW by doing this. It will only bleed more people. Either go back to the old system or find a way to get more players on lower tiers. Free transfers are a good idea.

Is this a joke post? Seriously, any post that wants to initiate free transfers again is immediately written off.

Free transfers always screw things up. Every. Single. Time.

And as for bleeding more people, good. Fairweathers that are only wanting to play when a server is winning should be discentivized, coming from SF you should understand that, but apparently clarity isn’t a forte here for some people.

robocafaz.9017:

I’d like to face realms with really strong NA prime times and no Oceanic presence.

Then it’d be a very even matchup. ;P

x2. So whoever else falls in that category, coverage wars aren’t nearly as fun.

Snowreap.5174:

I’m leaning towards the latter because if FC was under-rated then ET and HoD (who have played FC for a while now) would also be under-rated, but they’re performing as expected vs SF. so if FC was under-rated that means SF was under-rated too.

The largest reason SF didn’t go further than t6 is coverage. T6 is where the coverage wars start, our nightly/EU population compared to IoJ/DH hurt us a lot. If we had one that could just hold defensively against either server, we would’ve probably sailed up into t5.

Let’s continue the thread here and set an example for the other matchups bwaha, since it has it’s own forum section now.

Full link: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/matchups/5-31-SF-ET-HoD/

Also, I enjoy updated screenshots, as they are always fun.

Context from Mark Katzbach

Greetings Citizens!

In an effort to allow for more general World vs. World discussion to thrive and simultaneously provide a space for match-up threads to continue, we have created this, your World vs. World match-up subforum. Please keep all match-up threads in this subforum and keep your posts respectful and polite.

Enabling Q/A for updated screenshots.

Continuing from this thread.

Copy/Paste from other thread.

Hello fellow WvW’ers,

We are looking for player’s to help us solidify our position in rankings and numbers among our weaker timezones.

What we need:
1) Players/guilds willing to participate/coordinate during the following timeframe:

• 3AM – 2PM (PDT)
• 6AM – 5PM (EDT)
• 8PM – 7AM (GMT)
• 11AM – 10PM (UTC +9)
  specifically Oceanic/EU players

What we could use:
1) WvW players of any time really, specifically players willing to coordinate and work as a team though.
2) Anti-zerg groups (commonly known as zergballs) to compliment our larger general playerbase.

What we offer:
1) A server that has large coverage in all aspects of the game (WvW, PvP, PvE).
2) Community website, forums, and 1000+ slot mumble server for coordination.
3) Minimal to non-existant queues for all maps outside of reset night. (Occasionally EB will be queued during NA primetime on a weekday as well)
4) WvW guilds ranging from small group roamers, general zerg bodies, and coordinated large group tactics. (Working on establishing some zergball presence).
5) Legen -wait for it- dary Cookies, duh. (ninjaedit x2)

We are running into our first score-balanced matchup (since January) and are working to improve our core, and now would be the perfect time to integrate additional players into these timeframes so we can establish a coordinated presence and get them working with our current alliances/tactics.

We have plenty to offer and look forward to seeing new people help us reach higher.

Server Site: www.sorrowsfurnace.com

PS: Fellow SF’ers if you want additional information in this first post, lemme know and I’ll try and add it all together (as long as it doesn’t get too spammy).

lunyboy.8672:

pulsecodesgnl.3470:

I disagree. I enjoy the new matchups even though we were temporarily thrown back down in t8 via the random element. Glicko2 is finally going to be able to do what it was intended to do in the first place, and build REAL scores that should’ve been built since the system had started. It’s clearly evident by the scores that the tiers are not nearly as rigid as they appeared to be which is great.

Yes, there is a HUMONGOUS gap for tiers 1 and 2, and unfortunately it will linger for a couple weeks and will wholly allow for unbalanced matches; but good hell, why do you deserve preferential treatment over the other 6 tiers?

Deal with it, quit crying, if there is an actual outbalanced problem after the scores start to settle from the neccessary random variable matches for Glicko2, THEN Anet will adjust the random variable at that time. There are more tiers than your own Tier 1 and 2, quit acting like spoiled brats.

Says the T6 roflstomping 2 T8 servers.

I deleted my comment after I realized that there was quite a few t1/t2 posts in here agreeing with me. That being said, so what? Winning != fun. You realize that Sorrows Furnace was stuck in the Glicko Ghetto of being trapped in t8 for 3 months right?

And yeah, we were winning, but it was boring as all hell. This week has been nice, it has been a refresher from the coverage wars of t6, and go check out our weekly thread and how much everyone is enjoying it.

If you really think you need to win order to enjoy WvW you are going to be sorely dissapointed time after time. There is a large majority of our core players on SF that prefer when we are actually losing so it gives us something to do, something different than the mindnumbing winning with a zombie horde in t8/t7. But at the same time it’s nice to have that kind of a matchup where things are less intense as well.

Silas Drake.8946:

Love sideways insults. Especially when they come from someone who is probably the first to turn and run for the nearest tower and ask for the next turn on the ACs.

Not sure what you took as a sideways insult. The bag farm comment is made by every server, every weekly thread. In fact he complimented you if anything on your numbers and persistence, because it is in fact different than we remember when we encountered you in t7.

Also, the AC comment, really? Not only is it another bag-farm comment, but it’s also pretty hilariously hypocritical.

In any case, match has been fun and less stressful (I think mainly because we’re on even-ish ground with overnight crews, it’s annoying how bothersome coverage is in higher tiers) and I’ve enjoyed the fights. Hopefully it’s been enjoyable to some degree for HoD/ET.

ET <3. It’s been so long. If only FC were here, I’ve missed our bros.