Guild Wars 2

Hexyn.8462:

The reason this thread keeps appearing is because a large proportion of the community would like it as a feature.

The argument posed by the ojectionists “no pvp in pve” is moot, costume brawl exists and which is a player vs player activity and ultimately brings a similar impact to the PvE enviroment.

Add the feature, allow users to ignore duel requests and everyone is happy.

Lets hope Devs thinks this way.

VOLKON.1290:

pupi.2465:

VOLKON.1290:

pupi.2465:

ShiningSquirrel.3751:

pupi.2465:

In Truth, if we spent money in this product, we all should have the same experience whatever we can, comparing WvW with Tyria, ppl like pve, ppl like pvp, and if the Company can make PvP/Duels possible in Tyria Maps just for the fun for those who want pvp there, why not???

So those who want it should take precedent over those who do not? Why is their “fun” more important then the fun of those who do not want it? Open world dueling is annoying. Why should my game play be made less fun so yours can be made more fun?
If you want dueling, take it to the mists. If the devs want to add instanced dueling, fine, go to it and leave the rest of us out of it. Open world dueling? Not on your life. It’s bad enough having to deal with the costume brawls, dueling would be far worse in every way.

Your game wouldnt be affected if they make PvP Servers.

PvP servers would require a huge revamp of the code which is built around cooperative PvE. Then you’d have the issues of having two sets of similar code to maintain instead of one and the problem that any future changes would need to be tested thoroughly in both environments, slowing down the production cycle significantly. It’s not just as simply as “make a PvP server by flipping a switch”.

Im sorry, i thought they were a company that makes videogames, targeting gamers so this would be their job, hear their customers, i guess im mistaken then.

You’re right, you’re mistaken, just not about what you think. Tesla, for example, is a car company that targets drivers looking for electric cars. They’re not going to go and create a diesel version of their vehicles because some customers like diesel… it’s simply outside their paradigm. They could, but it would require a lot of work through the entire development process, not simply “well, just put a diesel engine in instead”.

I understand Volkon, Anet seem to have planned this since beta, otherwise they would have made a code for pvp servers too. Sadly for PvP crowd. But i get your point.

ShiningSquirrel.3751:

pupi.2465:

ShiningSquirrel.3751:

pupi.2465:

In Truth, if we spent money in this product, we all should have the same experience whatever we can, comparing WvW with Tyria, ppl like pve, ppl like pvp, and if the Company can make PvP/Duels possible in Tyria Maps just for the fun for those who want pvp there, why not???

So those who want it should take precedent over those who do not? Why is their “fun” more important then the fun of those who do not want it? Open world dueling is annoying. Why should my game play be made less fun so yours can be made more fun?
If you want dueling, take it to the mists. If the devs want to add instanced dueling, fine, go to it and leave the rest of us out of it. Open world dueling? Not on your life. It’s bad enough having to deal with the costume brawls, dueling would be far worse in every way.

Your game wouldnt be affected if they make PvP Servers.

Open world duels do not = PvP servers.
Apples Vs Oranges.

Man, you seem to be on a heavy Trip, i said that to “separate” pve ppl from pvp, i know open duels is diff from pvp servers.

And btw, you “dont have to deal with costumer brawl”, you participate it, or you ignore it, simple. As i simple dont “deal” with ascended crafting, its there, but i dont care wasting my time with it.

VOLKON.1290:

pupi.2465:

ShiningSquirrel.3751:

pupi.2465:

In Truth, if we spent money in this product, we all should have the same experience whatever we can, comparing WvW with Tyria, ppl like pve, ppl like pvp, and if the Company can make PvP/Duels possible in Tyria Maps just for the fun for those who want pvp there, why not???

So those who want it should take precedent over those who do not? Why is their “fun” more important then the fun of those who do not want it? Open world dueling is annoying. Why should my game play be made less fun so yours can be made more fun?
If you want dueling, take it to the mists. If the devs want to add instanced dueling, fine, go to it and leave the rest of us out of it. Open world dueling? Not on your life. It’s bad enough having to deal with the costume brawls, dueling would be far worse in every way.

Your game wouldnt be affected if they make PvP Servers.

PvP servers would require a huge revamp of the code which is built around cooperative PvE. Then you’d have the issues of having two sets of similar code to maintain instead of one and the problem that any future changes would need to be tested thoroughly in both environments, slowing down the production cycle significantly. It’s not just as simply as “make a PvP server by flipping a switch”.

Im sorry, i thought they were a company that makes videogames, targeting gamers so this would be their job, hear their customers, i guess im mistaken then.

ShiningSquirrel.3751:

pupi.2465:

In Truth, if we spent money in this product, we all should have the same experience whatever we can, comparing WvW with Tyria, ppl like pve, ppl like pvp, and if the Company can make PvP/Duels possible in Tyria Maps just for the fun for those who want pvp there, why not???

So those who want it should take precedent over those who do not? Why is their “fun” more important then the fun of those who do not want it? Open world dueling is annoying. Why should my game play be made less fun so yours can be made more fun?
If you want dueling, take it to the mists. If the devs want to add instanced dueling, fine, go to it and leave the rest of us out of it. Open world dueling? Not on your life. It’s bad enough having to deal with the costume brawls, dueling would be far worse in every way.

Your game wouldnt be affected if they make PvP Servers.

UrMom.4205:

Yalora Istairiea.6287:

As I have not experienced Dueling in previous games, I am having a problem understanding.

• A duel is between one player(or team) and another aka Player vs. Player. Isn’t that what the PvP part of the game is all about?

• Why should they bring the game type of PvP into PvE? Isn’t that what WvW is all about?

To me, PvE is about helping your fellow player not smiting her bones to ashes and dancing on her grave.

I guess I just see it as a conflict of the idealistic purpose of the individual game types.

As some others have said, pvp uses separate gear, alot of stuff is standardized to make it more balanced.

On the other question, what they could get from bringing dueling into pve is allowing pve players to dip their toes into pvp. When you jump into wvw for the first time it can be extremely overwhelming and brutal. Having the dueling option (maybe even make it where you don’t stomp the player, or don’t kill them, after the duel both players resume back to full health) would allow pve players to get friendly practice at pvp. I just introduced a guildie to pvp, took him into an empty pvp server and we dueled, and he freakin loved it, wants to practice but loved it. It could potentially help bridge all the game modes.

This!

In Truth, if we spent money in this product, we all should have the same experience whatever we can, comparing WvW with Tyria, ppl like pve, ppl like pvp, and if the Company can make PvP/Duels possible in Tyria Maps just for the fun for those who want pvp there, why not???

Thats why Anet should make PVP servers, for PvP crowd that would like to duel/fight in open world, i know you (pve lovers) will say the goal is to the Races be united against the Dragons and bla bla bla…

There are Chaos everywhere, GW2 should be no exception!

I Support this! Duels is always fun to see, especially in towns! See ppl fighting in every corner of LA would be nice

And if ppl choose to duels in Arena’s like places, as the one in Black Citadel, it could earn some rewards… gold for example.

Anet, aside from Normal servers, make PVP ones, to allow open pvp in Tyria, i dont know how, Guilds VS Guilds, Priory VS Secrets VS Vigil, or Races, but make PVP Servers, so ppl can have another option to take in Tyria Maps, WvW isnt enough.

illo.5106:

It will always lead to ganking lowies, no matter if you exclude starting zones or not – ok then you kill a lvl 52 on his way to the shatterer (with a lvl 80 with full ascended gear). Does this make things any better?

And nooo, this won’t happen in GW2. Well, it did so in any other MMOs I played before, because the “ganker” usually comes around with better gear or more “friends”, so the lowie is 90 % on the loser side.

Besides: Since GW2 is an open world game with open world bosses, some morons could easily ruin (At least I’d do that, ‘cause I think it’s funny.) the gaming experience of many more – like killing the cannon guys at Tequatl or generally people fighting a boss.

Thats why i said “pvp server”, ppl who likes pvp and choose a server for it, would be “warned” by its threats, the Ganking.

And the thing you pointed about World Bosses, if you would do that because its funny, wouldnt turn the game “funnier” overall???

I think thats the important thing, the game becomes fun for everyone, who likes pve, choose normal servers, who likes MESS, choose pvp ones. hehe

uknortherner.2670:

How would being able to gank defenceless noobs make this game more interesting?

Here’s the thing: You knew this game did not have open-world PvP, yet you bought it anyway. Besides, doesn’t endless ganking also make you a robot?

No pvp at starting zones, done.

“Ganking” is not the same as fighting NPC’s.

I know you will say that “We got WvW, no need for pvp in Tyria”, but let me say one thing, this game has nothing to do when you already did everything in pve.

Karma train? World Bosses? Exploration? Jps?? yeah, nice, so what? doing it over and over and over? am i a robot ?

ArenaNet, how about put some action to the game and make PvP avaliable in Tyria? i dont know how, maybe through races, maybe only in higher lvl maps, maybe through GUILDS ?? but Open PvP would make playing in Tyria a bit more interesting. At least, something not “robotic” to do.

Serioulsy, my veins doesnt burn in WvW and Spvp like would in a surprise encounter wandering “on quest” maps.

If any other game had the GW2 mechanics, WoW for example, i would go back play it. A pity Gw2 doesnt have open pvp servers, because many ppl who enjoy PvP in this game would love to see it out of WvW and Spvp aswell.

ShiningSquirrel.3751:

It has already been suggested and discussed many times before. Please look in the suggestions forum for the threads as they have all been moved there and merged.

Im sorry, i’ve made the search only in General Discussion, i’ll check there.

I know you will say that “We got WvW, no need for pvp in Tyria”, but let me say one thing, this game has NOTHING to do when you already did EVERYTHING in pve.

Karma train? World Bosses? Exploration? Jps?? yeah, nice, so what? doing it over and over and over? am i a robot

ArenaNet, how about put some action to the game and make PvP avaliable in Tyria? i dont know how, maybe through races, maybe only in higher lvl maps, maybe through GUILDS ?? but Open PvP would make playing in Tyria a bit more interesting. At least, something not “robotic” to do.

Serioulsy, my veins doesnt burn in WvW and Spvp like would in a surprise encounter wandering “on quest” maps.

If any other game had the GW2 mechanics, WoW for example, i would go back play it. A pity Gw2 doesnt have open pvp servers.

Not at all, you will likely do the new stuff mainly for achivs you if care to that, or just play for a few hours and realise the game is the same.

Juba.8406:

pupi.2465:

If the Sigil wasnt so expenseive, i would buy it to test, it looks very interesting in PvP, you transferring that bleeds, confusion, Necro ones (dunno their condi names) right after to their faces.

its not available in PvP, and it transfers just 1 condition.

i got the sigil but really i dont feel it when playing normally coz the 10s cd and it trigger even if there was no conditions on you, i feels it need too much babysitting to get the advantage ,you have to time your attack so you wait for a big stack of a condition then swap to Generosity weapon and attack and be sure it crits.

Would not be good for wvw hen?

If the Sigil wasnt so expenseive, i would buy it to test, it looks very interesting in PvP, you transferring that bleeds, confusion, Necro ones (dunno their condi names) right after to their faces.

In a situation where you have Sigil of Generosity in your weapon, the trait Cleansing Ire, and you use Burst on your target, Does the contition transfer it before it gets removed?

Ain.7082:

For PvP, greatsword + Axe/Mace is a viable setup. The greatsword allows for excellent mobility, while the axe/mace is good for raw damage and a bit of control. That being said, how you have your traits setup puts your focus on damage with the greatsword, while axe damage will still be superior. Your skill and weapon setup doesn’t allow for hundred blades to hit reliably as the knockdown from tremor doesn’t last long enough. Your focus should be on the axe as your main source of damage, and the greatsword for its utility.

I suggest a traits more akin to this ( I have only adjusted traits, nothing else ):
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQNAR3ZjkOxw1OCPMxBEkCNsKMKGigQ9YOcj4A-jQCBYfERzUgA0HwEBQJPKrJQCiVQFRjVhET7iIqWKAmUGB-e

With these changes the focus becomes the axe, which will provide you a greater amount of damage than the greatsword in PvP situations. The change to burst mastery from mobile strikes also permits you to have a a greater deal of condition removal than previously, despite the longer cooldown on signet of stamina

Tested, and approved! TYVM Sir, yet, i substitute the mace for sword, it worked even better ^^

My suggestion to this, “If an Event has been failed for 30 min or more, and a Player Arrives, and save the village/npc/whatever, The Player earns a 2 champion bags and Gold.”

Done, tho, i would love to see open pvp in some maps (and yes, in Tyria). ^^

So, to fit a new playstyle, since LB will not be part of “Strength” burst anymore, i was looking for a comb with GS, and I thought Axe for Evisc, and Mace for the knockdown.

You guys think this could work?

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQNAR3ZjkOxw1OCPMxBEkCNsKOKoCmQ9YOsj6A-jQCBYfERzUgA0HwEBQJPKrJQCiVQFRjVhET7iIqWKAmUGB-e

Using this in PvP.

Indeed, my complain is related to PvP, my bad forgetting to mention it.

Danikat, the only problem in working on builds that counter Coundition ones, is that you are “forced” to play out of your style, leaving the fun aside, I guess you understand what I mean.

Is there a way??? i find myself using it in some situations where the target (thief, mesmer) go stealth, then I run for a suicidal fall in Sky Hammer edges.

Guess im not the only one who experiencied this.

Im sorry if I may sound a bit “hostile” for those who like Conds, but…

When will Conditions drop to second source of dmg (or equal) to balance Burst Builds?

Just curious if such a thing will ever happen, srsly.

-_-

Do you think it worth?

Of Course this is not a “GEEZZZZ I’ve Never Saw this Build Befoooore! You’re a GENIUS!”
But as an “ex-Hambow”, i gotta admit that i found this pretty fun.

About the Utilities, i know i could use Dolyak and Might or Endure Pain, instead of Balance Stance and Stomp, but i find these two more usefull because of the quick cd, and Stomp besides breaking stun, work as cc since i dont got hammer anymore.

Remembering that i use this build for WvW and Spvp.

Take a look guys, your good/bad feedback is welcome.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQJARTjkOxw1OCPMxBEkCNsKOKgCmQ9YOqj2A-ToAA1CnICSFkLITQygsBNIYJC

Separating Dmg and Ctrl exists in every mmo, btw, what i love in hammer is exactly the cc, but i do agree that the nerf on staggering blow is kinda absurd, same on LB, we already have too much cond choices, making LB only cond dmg makes GS/LB loose some powerhouse.

Another thing, they’re adding new weapon types ( i hope soon), and with the new “trait tree” and skills, i can imagine a BattleAxe comming around the corner.

That would mean AoE dmg for how it swings.

Well, im not that desperate to get the mask, so, it might keep going without it :P

Thanks for you help tho Esplen…

Take care.

oh… well, i’ve never played gw1…. so i think that means i can’t have that mask i suppose….

Hello everyone, I just would like to know what mask is him wearing since i’ve never saw it in the game, tho i know the chestpiece and the shoulder, but not that mask, it really got my attention

Anyone knows it?

haha really? man, i can’t beleive in that, gotta do it right now, thanks, and … sorry Anet :P

Im sorry if there is another thread like this one, dont have time to search for it,

I just think that Savage Leap could be “free” when not targeting with enemies around, sometimes you want to “escape” or just jump ahead, and the nearest enemy get it in a “auto-target”

That’s boring :/

the 3 orders become “facctions” ?

Priory, Vigil and Whispers at War!!!!!!!

This should be interesting!

:D

GW2 needs Duels, Open World PvP (in mid-high lvl maps , 40+ or so) and yes, Arenas, even 1×1 matches. Then, this game will be perfect.

Designed “mainly” for pve?, i think they’re design Totally for pve lol.

Im not saying to make sieges or something, just pvp, just fights, something for players to do, trolling villages, or something… thigns we can do in other games, its a pity we cant do that in GW2, its mecanics on gameplay asks for that, its a pity we can’t pvp in Queensdale, its a pity we cant make an invasion on Divinity’s Reach, or BlackCitadel and so on…

Spvp and WvW is limited, the maps on WvW is no equal from the pve ones in Tyria, you just can’t have an “ezly” 1×1 encounter on WvW, (and im tired of going to EB Puzzle Jump).

This wouldnt force pve players, i didnt say to make the open pvp happens all the time, just “sometimes” so ppl can have that a different pvp option aside wvw and spvp.

PvE and PvP is no way on equal grounds in this game.

Tho I know the idea is to unite all races, i think the game kinda “lacks” action in the open world, i miss that “immersion” and feeling while walking thro the maps, and suddenly having that encounters with someone lets say… “hostile”.

I know i’ll be flamed “go play other mmos with facctions to have this”, but tell me, the people who like pvp, and i know theres lot of people in here that likes pvp (WvW is the “endgame” of GW2), so it makes a PvP Game, wouldnt be cool to have some “conflict” in Tyria (open world, “pve” maps) ??

Maybe some Races War, (Human x Charr) a week per month, or even the 3 factions ( Durmand, Vigil and Order of Whispers) going on war each other.

Just an idea to make things more interesting.