Guild Wars 2

Electro.4173:

Sure, I remember doing that. For maybe 30 minutes before I got bored and did something else, not for a day straight.

You weren’t a very good explorer then.

Seems pretty sensitive to me!

Neptune.2570:

1. Turret Engi
2. Condi Engi (Sorry Engi’s, but having bleed, burn, vuln, poison, torment proc from a single AA is kittening lame.)
3. LB Ranger
4. SA thief… Don’t have time for such tomfoolery.
5. Condi mes
6. SB/krait runes ranger.

For personal reasons, what are your thoughts on Carrion Axe/Dagger Sword/Torch (Scavenger) rangers? I feel the need to defend myself here because I feel like theres more to them than SB rangers. xD

lighter.2708:

ronpierce.2760:

lighter.2708:

ronpierce.2760:

lighter.2708:

ronpierce.2760:

I knew someone who died falling down stairs. Please remove all stairs from the game and have no mention of them. Thanks, ANet.

This is literally not the same, you probably will not find it funny if a lot of people just died from falling down the stairs and suddenly anet make every one insta death when being on stairs for one day.

http://www.planecrashinfo.com/cause.htm

Plane deaths have been between 500 but less than 1000 annually.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/790609.stm

Over 1000 die annually from stairs.

Spare me the righteous do-gooder act. People seek offence because its what gets them off. Media hype is a disease. Something tragic happened, no need to shut down everything that looks like an airplane because of it. In a simple phrase, grow up…

.No…the point is not about anything that looks like an airplane, is about hosting an related event right after the incident

How is it related?

Airplan? crash?

What part of this event is offensive in that way? Is there a crash part I’m missing?

lighter.2708:

ronpierce.2760:

lighter.2708:

ronpierce.2760:

I knew someone who died falling down stairs. Please remove all stairs from the game and have no mention of them. Thanks, ANet.

This is literally not the same, you probably will not find it funny if a lot of people just died from falling down the stairs and suddenly anet make every one insta death when being on stairs for one day.

http://www.planecrashinfo.com/cause.htm

Plane deaths have been between 500 but less than 1000 annually.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/790609.stm

Over 1000 die annually from stairs.

Spare me the righteous do-gooder act. People seek offence because its what gets them off. Media hype is a disease. Something tragic happened, no need to shut down everything that looks like an airplane because of it. In a simple phrase, grow up…

.No…the point is not about anything that looks like an airplane, is about hosting an related event right after the incident

How is it related?

lighter.2708:

ronpierce.2760:

I knew someone who died falling down stairs. Please remove all stairs from the game and have no mention of them. Thanks, ANet.

This is literally not the same, you probably will not find it funny if a lot of people just died from falling down the stairs and suddenly anet make every one insta death when being on stairs for one day.

http://www.planecrashinfo.com/cause.htm

Plane deaths have been between 500 but less than 1000 annually.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/790609.stm

Over 1000 die annually from stairs.

Spare me the righteous do-gooder act. People seek offence because its what gets them off. Media hype is a disease. Something tragic happened, no need to shut down everything that looks like an airplane because of it. In a simple phrase, grow up…

Someone probably got beheaded by a sword from ISIS, stuff is in the media. We need to stop using swords. Frankly, people need to stop being overly sensitive.

I knew someone who died falling down stairs. Please remove all stairs from the game and have no mention of them. Thanks, ANet.

I had the opposite, SORT OF. I mainly PvP but recently has a real urge to let loose of my “mmo” mindset where everything is about grind and numbers and just play for the story and fun on a brand new character. Only problem was… I have 80s (from pvp) on most of the characters I cared about! I really want to play a Revenant from 1-80 and take my time. So the hype lingers.

I will say though, then seemingly purposefully giving info on stuff people care less about and holding the meat back is driving me nuts. I just want a single specialization announced in detail so I know what it will even do!!!!!

Shishio Makato.1859:

ronpierce.2760:

Dishonor not working is purely anecdotal and is part of a larger problem. How often in reality are you being teamed up with a guy who just quit another game you were in? (Answer is: not very often, if ever within a relevant time span.) So basically, an instant leave could instantly ban people for 24 hours, youd still have similar results. That, or just increased AFKs.

Dishonor isn’t the answer, it’s the vengeful punching bag people use out of frustration. What actually needs to happen is people need to be able to easily accept punishment, give a “leave match” button in unranked and ranked, and introduce a system that fills players into progressed matches. It’s as simple as having a check mark for accepting games in progress and say with 3/4 rewards for a loss when you fill in (versus 1/2) and full rewards for a win. Immediately you will see less threads about leavers and dishonor. Guaranteed.

I like the idea for unranked, but I’m talking about ranked play here (hence the -pts and scoring matrix, not sure why people bringing unranked into the conversation), not sure how it would work for a ranked ladder system (too many factors you would have to consider, do you get a +1 if you win and joined only down 50? down 100? do you get -pts if you lose, if so how much)

PERSONALLY, I don’t see it mattering for ranked. I know this isn’t what people like to hear, but “ranked” should be on teams. Balancing a rank when 4 others are RNG just doesn’t make logical sense.

Go to settings, graphics, postprocessing and set it to none, you’ll be good to go.

I think this is more practical as 0/6/2/0/6 or 0/4/4/0/6 condi than power. Power spends too much time in DS for dps and so on. For Condi though it’s a very practical cc break.

I called this a long time ago, and everyone said I was crazy… >_> kitten .

I think the only “rule” is to not play Turret engi because they don’t want to lose more players. :P

Dishonor not working is purely anecdotal and is part of a larger problem. How often in reality are you being teamed up with a guy who just quit another game you were in? (Answer is: not very often, if ever within a relevant time span.) So basically, an instant leave could instantly ban people for 24 hours, youd still have similar results. That, or just increased AFKs.

Dishonor isn’t the answer, it’s the vengeful punching bag people use out of frustration. What actually needs to happen is people need to be able to easily accept punishment, give a “leave match” button in unranked and ranked, and introduce a system that fills players into progressed matches. It’s as simple as having a check mark for accepting games in progress and say with 3/4 rewards for a loss when you fill in (versus 1/2) and full rewards for a win. Immediately you will see less threads about leavers and dishonor. Guaranteed.

SlayerSixx.5763:

ronpierce.2760:

SlayerSixx.5763:

Turrets and super condi builds. Yay for having the game play itself for us.

Lol because conditions apply themselves and aren’t a result of not dodging attacks! Amirite?! XD

You can’t block traps. You don’t know when stealth classes are going to jump you or if they just ran off. Most condi classes focus on just tickling you with constant weak hits to keep their application up while they dump the rest of their traits/runes/sigils into evading. Ever faced a SA condi thief who knows what he’s doing? Or a condi mes? Hell, I’ve tried running a burn guard with a focus on CCs and most fights just up and ended while I was BLOCKING. I’m no thief or mesmer enthusiast, but I feel bad for them when they’re trying to setup really cool combos only to hit my wall of blocks and then burn themselves to a crisp.

TL;DR condi builds rely on condis to deal damage, therefore they find ways to make sure their condis are constantly being applied. Since they can PASSIVELY damage you, they can ACTIVELY focus on surviving.

Conditions do damage over time that a power would do instantly. It sounds like you have a bigger issue with stealth. There are plenty of power thieves who shadow tank people in wvw, which would be more common in conquest of stealth didn’t have as many drawbacks, just the same as condition thief. Conditions were still landed on you regardless and it is just as hard to predict a backstab.

Mesmers on the other hand are broken with conditions. Illusions don’t use your base power for damage (they hit 4-10 damage) but conditions they leave are full, that’s a design issue behind mesmer, not conditions.

Traps, they are thematically unblockable, but they’re not the only unblockable attacks. That said, they can still be evaded which is they key take away. The only class unblockable has a substantial effect on is guardian, but it’s okay to have counters. The bigger issue with traps is that they’re pretty un-noticeable until it’s too late (hence trap) which again, isnt a condition issue. You hate traps…

You’re using examples of why you hate conditions but the only reason these condition builds are a problem is because of the mechanics tied to them. Free roaming SA power thieves would likely be just as annoying. If all clones did full power damage you’d hate them too.

For the most part condition builds require landing hits just like any other. You are upset with some mechanics, which is no fault of conditions themselves. If you ever ended up dying from excessive stacks of conditions, it only feels like you passively died, but you made bad steps wrll in advance to get covered that much, the effects are just delayed.

They just need to add a new non-limited time scythe staff similar to the halloween one. The Final Rest is okay but I just want a real freaking scythe that isn’t 2k gold for my staff revenant!

Shiki.7148:

ronpierce.2760:

Shiki.7148:

ronpierce.2760:

witcher.3197:

Scoobaniec.9561:

rotten.9753:

Scoobaniec.9561:

Source please.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Banish_Enchantment

And what youre trying to say by that link? By source im asking for a vid. But i understand that some ppl here doesnt even have binded a dodge buttom so you take everything on a chest like a “pro”. And nope, fight starts at 50% energy, you also need 10sec for that 50 energy to regenerate doing nothing but autoatk to spam that move. If you ask me i would consider such revenant a freekill. Same as heartseeker thieves spamming 2 for the win. But its okay guys feel free to prove how bad you are at this game so i can have a good laugh

25 stacks won’t be easy to do. But 10-15 is rather easy as it’s unblockable and has 600 range. You say the revenant would only be able to spam autoattack? Well, the pace at which mace autoattack applies torment and poison is rather insane so it’s not like the revenant is punished for building up his energy. You can also use all your weapon skills as those don’t seem to have energy costs, or very low (5 or so).

As you need less than 3 seconds for 25 stacks, if there is anyone around who can put an immob or stun at the target it’s not a hard thing to do.

But in case you weren’t worried enough, they’re removing the cap on confusion.

Afaik that is PvE only, and possibly even only on Elite-mobs or stronger.

We don’t actually know anything about it. It’s iust speculation that it won’t go beyond large boss mobs, mostly out of wishful thinking. It may be contained, but I don’t think anything has been said to give anyone that idea.

Yes, hence the “possibly”. But I’m pretty sure an A-net dev said something about it definitly only affecting PvE (or not affecting WvW), and it is all WiP, anyways.

Do you have a source for the WvW(PVP) exclusion statement? I hadn’t heard anything that closely resembled that at all. Genuinely curious.

BlackTruth.6813:

5.) Game modes like conquest does not favor casuals. Conquest requires rotation knowledge, gut feeling, and point/map awareness.

If all casuals had to do was kill people, then it wouldn’t make people rage so much. One way to fix this is if Courtyard was a separate que and not “point-based” but more so like when someone is downed, they don’t spawn anymore and it continues until one side is dead.

Lol We’ve been asking for 2v2/3v3 annihilation Arenas for ages. :P

I think that was sort of the idea of Ascended armor (same power) except I don’t think they wanted full armor sets to be changeable on the fly.

Balance is a trickier thing than you let on. It isn’t like they haven’t taken steps to reduce the need to play all Eles the same. They specifically reduced the cooldown on attunements and reduced the potency of arcana’s passive reduction to try to lessen the need for arcana, it just simply wasn’t enough. Not being enough isnt the same as not trying. They have limited resources and unfortunately, knowledge has grown a lot but the issues of classes are often deeply rooted into the initial designs of the classes and arent easy to fix. Any major fixes to actually correct issues (like perma stealth, arcana reliance, necro defenses and death shroud) would be really hard for players to handle. In a way, their hands are tied to making HUGE changes, but they do what they can.

Balance isn’t ‘that’ bad… They could leave everything the same on one class, and change something seemingly unrelated and poor builds suddenly become useful. Sort of like Cele engi, if I’m not mistaken. People run the meta, other people try to beat the meta, things shift around in usefulness.

Shiki.7148:

ronpierce.2760:

witcher.3197:

Scoobaniec.9561:

rotten.9753:

Scoobaniec.9561:

Source please.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Banish_Enchantment

And what youre trying to say by that link? By source im asking for a vid. But i understand that some ppl here doesnt even have binded a dodge buttom so you take everything on a chest like a “pro”. And nope, fight starts at 50% energy, you also need 10sec for that 50 energy to regenerate doing nothing but autoatk to spam that move. If you ask me i would consider such revenant a freekill. Same as heartseeker thieves spamming 2 for the win. But its okay guys feel free to prove how bad you are at this game so i can have a good laugh

25 stacks won’t be easy to do. But 10-15 is rather easy as it’s unblockable and has 600 range. You say the revenant would only be able to spam autoattack? Well, the pace at which mace autoattack applies torment and poison is rather insane so it’s not like the revenant is punished for building up his energy. You can also use all your weapon skills as those don’t seem to have energy costs, or very low (5 or so).

As you need less than 3 seconds for 25 stacks, if there is anyone around who can put an immob or stun at the target it’s not a hard thing to do.

But in case you weren’t worried enough, they’re removing the cap on confusion.

Afaik that is PvE only, and possibly even only on Elite-mobs or stronger.

We don’t actually know anything about it. It’s iust speculation that it won’t go beyond large boss mobs, mostly out of wishful thinking. It may be contained, but I don’t think anything has been said to give anyone that idea.

^ That said, I’d play with you Cruuk, but I’m waiting on my new PC in a week which will totally revolutionize my gameplay experience! I have several characters and builds that can fit into a decent team, though, so if you find a group that needs one in about a week’s time, I can probably fill in!

Vinegaroon.4369:

Turret engi. I’ve noticed that when there’s an engi on the opposite side, my pug calls for focus fire on the engi. i say good, force them to play another class. Or let him rot on the home point while you 2 cap and 5v4 his buddies. either way makes the class useless.

Thats the best part of being a good turret Engi. Win a fight (I even press far with my Turret Engi) and as SOON as its over, pick up your turrets and take off. People will expect the turret engi to stay there, go help middle, spread some boons and CC, really messes people up.

+1 For Turret Engies who realize picking up turrets reduces the CD by 25% and knows when to move!

The irony is, the problem with the current system is it rewards time spent too much and not enough for winning.

I didn’t bring enough condition clear for this! The confusion! The Burn! The vulnerability….

It’s all so delicious!

Here’s the honest truth.

Revenant. Its a very simple psychological reason. Revenant will be new enough to make the leveling process as fresh as possible, and if you wait or ignore the opportunity, you won’t gain the same satisfaction as playing a class you have very little knowledge about. Its sort of the “new game” effect. If you want it to be really enjoyable, just level the revenant. Better yet, maybe even don’t try to learn TOO much about the class before you play it.

That said, if you can’t handle frequent updates or you just really like to play it safe, play a guardian, but the satisfaction will not match because chances are it’s too “common” to you at this point.

Just my thoughts on it. Good luck either way! d(‘-’d)

Final little note: There will be a lot of revenants, if you’re one of those that can’t stand playing what everyone else is playing… Maybe not revenant, though there are a lot of guardians now, too.

Let the E – peen race begin!

Such a fun grand master that would be :P

“Inner Sight: Immune to Blind. Can detect enemies in stealth.”.

Literally the biggest middle finger to d/p thieves you could imagine, all rolled up into one happy little package.

Supreme.3164:

1) All AI builds
2) All stealth professions
3) All condition based profession

So you like… Zerker warriors, ele, guardians, engineers, and necromancers? Sheesh you hate more than you can stomach. XD

Try playing a minion master whose entire build and traits or jammed into pets. They can basically all die in a celestial warriors Longbow F1 ability :P its a rough life lets have because of the AOE nature of the game.

Lucky for me I only use 2, Scruffy, my wolf… And Iggy, my black widow, baby…

Windsagio.1340:

Toxsa.2701:

And hereby I gave my Beta experience like I should. Yet many people who’re not even on the Beta kept on criticizing by theory-crafting in their mind by watching some video, when I was actually testing out how each of the skills work and picturing how it’d be applied in pvp and pve.

I’ll be waiting for the time when the trait is actually complete and when mist released. If the skills stay as it is now, we’ll see.

People have this weird instinctive anti-nerf reaction, I’m not quite sure why… it happens in every game just about in every stiation.

@Others even in the stress-test, player feedback is valuable on the other gameplay elements. It’s not just a stress test, it’s also a way to get analytics and player response on all the things that players could do.

Revenant feedback (and it’s clearly not tuned yet) is just like the feedback about people being confused by the mushroom mastery being ‘broken’.

Its not so much as an anti-nerf reaction so much as a “cool your jets” reaction. We’ve seen how overhyping how powerful something is leads to it being WAY overnerfed. Just look at Necromancer, arguably one of the strongest classes in Beta became the weakest class in PVE and most of PVP for years, and isn’t even all that interesting anymore after things like Shade and so on got removed. Elementalists in PVP were amazing, then they went a year or more of being basically extinct because they overnerfed them.

That’s the caution. People make snap decisions that things are OP before they can be adequately tested will only make the problem worse. Saying keep an eye on something is one thing. Going on nerf rants about a class with 3 trees, 2 legends and 2 weapons sets so far and is basically still in alpha… Maybe take a step back and breathe?

witcher.3197:

ronpierce.2760:

witcher.3197:

Scoobaniec.9561:

rotten.9753:

Scoobaniec.9561:

Source please.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Banish_Enchantment

And what youre trying to say by that link? By source im asking for a vid. But i understand that some ppl here doesnt even have binded a dodge buttom so you take everything on a chest like a “pro”. And nope, fight starts at 50% energy, you also need 10sec for that 50 energy to regenerate doing nothing but autoatk to spam that move. If you ask me i would consider such revenant a freekill. Same as heartseeker thieves spamming 2 for the win. But its okay guys feel free to prove how bad you are at this game so i can have a good laugh

25 stacks won’t be easy to do. But 10-15 is rather easy as it’s unblockable and has 600 range. You say the revenant would only be able to spam autoattack? Well, the pace at which mace autoattack applies torment and poison is rather insane so it’s not like the revenant is punished for building up his energy. You can also use all your weapon skills as those don’t seem to have energy costs, or very low (5 or so).

As you need less than 3 seconds for 25 stacks, if there is anyone around who can put an immob or stun at the target it’s not a hard thing to do.

Still doesn’t consider aftercasts (which are much longer than people think. Napkin math using casting times is not a very safe method of calculation). Or that it’s only 2 confusion unless you have 3 conditions on you the whole time. I think it’s best to try it out before getting overly hyped on what ifs, that’s all I’m saying.

But in case you weren’t worried enough, they’re removing the cap on confusion.

Btw Phantaram thinks it’s OP as well. From what I’ve seen, there is basically no aftercast, or really minimal. http://www.twitch.tv/phantaram/v/3941967 – here it is, I’m too lazy to go through 2.5 hours atm, sorry.

Phantaram’s just a guy. I’ve been top 50, been on good teams, played with abjured (and against), we’re all just people lol, he’s not a gaming god. I’ve seen people from abjured complain about the silliest things (including things as minor as decoy on Mesmer, just to put it in perspective, all the while defending slickshoes to the grave).

That said, I’m not arguing if its OP, it might be a little too strong, its worth watching. But the applications people are assuming are highly flawed. Things to consider:

Pre/after casts.
Conditional Requirements.
The “whole package” of a build (which we can’t really say we’ve seen yet)
**Missed attacks take away energy from ALL abilities the Revenant can be using (similarly to initiative, though Initiative is only a weapon skills).

So, in reality, they need a bit of weight behind them as part of their resource design. Not to mention the reality that they actually start at 50% energy.

Could it be great? Possibly. Still no sense in going off the deepend and dooming things before they get a chance to be properly tested. Remember, these things have been tested internally as well. If its broke, Karl will fix it!

rotten.9753:

ronpierce.2760:

But in case you weren’t worried enough, they’re removing the cap on confusion.

25 was the number he picked probably due to energy cost (20/100).

Ah, if thats the case, in reality they should be able to cast 6 in a row given energy regeneration rates and “real” cast times.

witcher.3197:

Scoobaniec.9561:

rotten.9753:

Scoobaniec.9561:

Source please.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Banish_Enchantment

And what youre trying to say by that link? By source im asking for a vid. But i understand that some ppl here doesnt even have binded a dodge buttom so you take everything on a chest like a “pro”. And nope, fight starts at 50% energy, you also need 10sec for that 50 energy to regenerate doing nothing but autoatk to spam that move. If you ask me i would consider such revenant a freekill. Same as heartseeker thieves spamming 2 for the win. But its okay guys feel free to prove how bad you are at this game so i can have a good laugh

25 stacks won’t be easy to do. But 10-15 is rather easy as it’s unblockable and has 600 range. You say the revenant would only be able to spam autoattack? Well, the pace at which mace autoattack applies torment and poison is rather insane so it’s not like the revenant is punished for building up his energy. You can also use all your weapon skills as those don’t seem to have energy costs, or very low (5 or so).

As you need less than 3 seconds for 25 stacks, if there is anyone around who can put an immob or stun at the target it’s not a hard thing to do.

Still doesn’t consider aftercasts (which are much longer than people think. Napkin math using casting times is not a very safe method of calculation). Or that it’s only 2 confusion unless you have 3 conditions on you the whole time. I think it’s best to try it out before getting overly hyped on what ifs, that’s all I’m saying.

But in case you weren’t worried enough, they’re removing the cap on confusion.

rotten.9753:

Scoobaniec.9561:

Source please.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Banish_Enchantment

That doesn’t take into consideration dodging, aftercasts, and conditional requirements. “Can”=/=plausible.

Thief “can” 1 shot people from stealth.

YuiRS.8129:

No. If a class is overpowered you nerf it, not buff everyone else. It’s too much work and it brings in a little nasty thing called power creep.

I just hope they don’t over nerf things because people like to throw “different” into the same handbag as “OP”. This undeniably happens. In gw2 it leads to over nerfing, in some games (like WoW) it leads to homogenization. Both are bad outcomes from inexperienced people making snap calls that the sky is falling.

Silv.9207:

What class? Power kills the rocket, conditions are supposed to kill the engineer. Engineer has a single condi removal tied to their heal and it only removes 2.

The only problem is: when the engi fall to 33% hp or less (and with 26k of hp 33% is like 12k…) he can reduce condition duration by 50%. If the engi add to that the rune that reduce condition duration by 25%… You obtain a engi that kill you with CC if you’re a direct damage and become unkillable by condition damage classes because they deal only 25% of they’re damage…

That’s a balanced class?

I hate:

Engineers (“only” because they have large amount of CC, condi resistance, boon spamming and AI damage by turets. And if they’re condition damage they can spam conditions from everywhere, killin you in 10 sec with conditions)

Thied S/D with all that blind and evasive skills

Mesmers (I know a mesmer that candeal me 15k of damage in 6 seconds. and I’ve 3k armor…)
And Mesmers with hide. so much hide. and a large amount of illusions and illusion-swap skills XD

Turret engineers don’t run Automated Response, they get way too many boons and high protection uptime from the turret boon trait. If they don’t have that, chances are any power player on your team could take him out at least fairly easily. (Much easier than otherwise). “What ifs” don’t really apply when they’re not very normal.

Coelho Nat.4697:

Turret eng.
I have read suggestions of how fight them. Many players say: just kill the rocket turret and you win. However, I think they never tried to kill a turret using condition damage build.

What class? Power kills the rocket, conditions are supposed to kill the engineer. Engineer has a single condi removal tied to their heal and it only removes 2.

SlayerSixx.5763:

Turrets and super condi builds. Yay for having the game play itself for us.

Lol because conditions apply themselves and aren’t a result of not dodging attacks! Amirite?! XD

The Hellfire armor achievments are so blown out of proportion because it was designed so late, it was made to be a goal for people who already had farmed a LOT of AP. Then the new pieces were added as a step up from that to be ahead of what anyone had reached. Bada-bing, bada-boom, you have an inrealistic goal because they wanted to cater to the top 1. (Not 1%, 1.)

I get really bad rubberbanding at time. Or everything will stop and catch up about 8 seconds later. Its really unpredictable though, but it can be pretty bad. I don’t think its my own internet, though. I’ve done several tests and so far I’ve always turned up okay.

I can already see myself spamming Banish Enchantment on Elementalists who think it’s great to have more boons than they deserve. :P

Jelzouki.4128:

Can anyone confirm plz?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=38&v=ezVy-zLUq6g

Of course it happened. You watched it didnt you?

robertul.3679:

Telling people they are bad and even some mild profanity which I won’t use here because it becomes “kitten” anyway is not a big deal.
Recommending people to get cancer and die is over the top and should give some dishonor at least. So should the whisper block combo many pvpers use.

Wrong, telling people they’re bad and cursing people is bad… It festers into a toxic community. It’s not just you thinking you’re cool calling someone bad. Its a process that leads to the “cancer” and so on. A war between rude people escalates to seeing who can be the most rude. That’s basically internet 101…

Admitting it is the first step to fixing the overall issue. It might sound silly to some readers, but honestly, it takes a bigger person to be honest about it, so good on you! I’ve tried to stay relatively calm, but grew pretty bitter over the years, so I’ve recently tried to take a step back from that as well. Good luck. The harder part is to try to not let other people revert you back to being bitter. (Trust me, its hard.) :P

Ario.8964:

In the situation you are being verbally attacked there’s one thing you should do. When they are raging at you for killing them or your team beats their’s and they get upset just say “play better”, sit back, and watch the fireworks and then block them when you decide you’ve had your fun and go on with life because ragers are not worth your time.

The problem is, this really just continues the problem. This is sort of what i was referencing when I said even players I enjoyed playing with before have grown hardened and just as kitteny. Might just be best to not say anything at all… :/

I don’t think power necro not having damage is the general argument with them. It’s that they burst just like anyone else and have the worst defenses in the game. The “double HP bar” stuff is complete and utter garbage talk.

Specializations are alternatives, not Vertical progression. This has all already been discussed pretty openly. Specializations are “a new way to play existing classes”. They’re alternatives. Now, balance may dictate that the new way to play is superior, but that doesn’t mean it was designed to shut anything else out. You’ll have some new abilities to play with and a (if what has been gathered so far is correct) a new trait line, which replaces an old one. This alone means the old base class still has something unique to specializations, and specializations just open more new options.

That said, specializations are a first batch. The idea is each class will eventually have several specializations, so initially, yes, a specialization may seem to have more options (gaining skills and weapons) over the base. But over time specializations will become a choice of give and take.

Moral of the story, expect (at least for a little while) the base classes to be a little underwhelming to the specialization because they have new shiny toys. But I have a feeling some specializations will be casted aside because the initial talents might be too good to give up. (IE if Elementalist lose Arcana trait line, chances are PVP elementalists won’t specialize very often.)