Guild Wars 2

Tigaseye.2047:

What about them is hot?

The human-looking parts, or the plant parts?

If it’s the human-looking parts, surely you’re just saying that female humanoids are hot?

If it’s the plant parts, I don’t even know what to say…

Look it that way. You meet two girls, twins. One wears dirty and ugly clothes and other wears nice dress. Who would you think is hotter? And why do you like that piece of cloth so much that it makes difference, why not human part?

What the hell are people expecting to see from an balancing/major trait overhaul update? Did you expect them to change traits, but magically they would still be the same? People complain, they want stuff changed/fixed/buffed/balanced, but they complain when you change their traits.
It’s like complaining this cake is not sweet enough, then you get new one and then you complain “this is a sweet cake!”. Sorry i’m too sleepy to find better analogy atm, but you see the point.
If you can’t survive with new update, then i don’t know what to tell you, you’re either bad player or you didn’t even try to adapt.
I don’t now how you could possibly like having stats tied to traits. That was horrible. You were forced to go into some trait line for either stats or traits, whatever you decided is worth more. Now you have stats and you can freely decide what traits will be best for your build.
And final thing. It’s a mmo game, did you really expect that game would never change when it comes to skills/traits/balance etc? I cna understand that it’s frustrating that you might need to get new gear now, but you can’t honestly expect them to not ever touch skills and traits anymore, just because some people want to stuck with same thing for years.

BrotherBelial.3094:

Lord Kuru.3685:

Crise.9401:

Ashen.2907:

Astralporing.1957:

Preacher.9526:

Race change could be done and there have been a million suggestions on how it could be implemented.

I don’t remember even one suggestion that offered a sensible mechanical solution. In fact, most “solutions” concentrated only on how it were to look from the player side.

This.

No player could have offered a mechanical/programming solution because no player knows the inner working of the programming.

Let’s elaborate a bit on that by looking at what is probably the most common player solution, ie. reset personal story on race change. Firstly, this kind of solution faces the same problems as allowing players to replay personal story (because that is what this solution entails) and secondly, there are bunch of minor things the choices in personal story affects, including the state of your home instance (yes that thing you only visit to mine some daily nodes, if even that) as well as numerous open world interactions related to the choice of order to join in particular.

These things seems so minor that they are easy to gloss over from players point of view because they are barely seen by most players. The problem with all of this boils down to the fact that they would have to reset your character state, but also hold partial records of every one of the previous states to an extent (ie. avoid re-earning rewards for example).

One thing to consider, when the story journal was introduced, they wouldn’t or couldn’t (because of it being either technically impossible, or cost prohibitive) allow parts of personal story to be replayed, if they couldn’t do it for the story journal all the same reasons would apply to race change.

Profession changes on the other hand, while probably easier would have a set of their own problems (namely to do with gear, and that one ultimately insignificant choice in character creation).

This doesn’t even touch on any potential design reasons against them, see Jon Peters post about why Hero Points can not be reset on demmand… of the top of my head I can’t come up with parallel for race change but that is because I too do not know how the inner systems interact with each other or have enough information on the desing behind personal story now and at launch as well as how the system accommodates for that design.

Reset personal story to zero when race is changed.

So just making a new toon then.

Uhh, one is level 80 fully geared with all the stuff, he will just have story reset and the other one is… well new toon?

Charrbeque.8729:

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Thank your for the effort, but I think we all know about this already. Problem is none of these options work for silverwaste chat, since like others figured it out, it’s server wide messages which cannot be turned off.
I hope A-net changes that.

Paulytnz.7619:

Strange whenever I’m in silverwastes I don’t seem too spammed by the messages, maybe I just learned to ignore them long ago…..

Hehe, maybe. Well, maybe you don’t notice it as much when you’re in silverwaste, because you’re busy doing events. I wouldn’t notice it either if it wasn’’t for guild chat. I check guild chat to see what’s going on and i have to scroll up to find what people said. Same for whispers =/
It just doesn’t make sense to me that I get these notifications in guild chat for example, doesn’t fit. Should really be just map chat imo, since map chat is relevant to that map and its events.

Paulytnz.7619:

Oh I’m sure you can turn it off, as well as npc chatter etc. Open up the chat system and click on the settings icon (looks like a cog or whatever you call it in your country). Pretty sure I have mine turned off.

Doesn’t work, tried already.

Why does silverwaste fill all your chat channels with event notifications? This is super annoying, I don’t need to see that in guild chat or whisper channel. Please restrict it to map chat only or give an option so we can turn it on/off for each channel.
If such option already exist, please tell, but doesn’t look like it.

Astralporing.1957:

serialkicker.5274:

Wow, man, some people are really acting like the game is now not casual anymore, because Teq has larger HP. Seriously, 98% of the game is causal, can’t you let hardcore players have at least something?

They already have 2 out of 3 gamemodes…

That’s like saying dungeons are only for hardcore players or only for zerkers or whatever.. People are playing things differently. I have played bunch of pvp games, some casually, others competitively.

Wow, man, some people are really acting like the game is now not casual anymore, because Teq has larger HP. Seriously, 98% of the game is causal, can’t you let hardcore players have at least something? That’s pretty selfish. Plus he’s not really that hard, even casuals should be able to do it, you just need enough people and use at least 1% of your brains.

DarkSyze.8627:

serialkicker.5274:

DarkSyze.8627:

The main problem is: Burst. Thief, Elementalist, Elementalist, Ranger, Mesmer and Engineer burst are responsible for thin causing Instant Kills.

Suggestion:

Remove burst from these professionals
Make serious change to their burst: -90% burst damage reduction.

Burst, Instant Kill do not do not require skill-play or risk-reward.. this suggestion will encourage them to be challenge and play with risk and be reward for it… instead of reward for it first.

Sorry but some of us enjoy fast paced combat. PvE mobs are easy anyway, fighting them for five minutes each will not make it fun. And pvp… well i’m not pvper, but when I do pvp in any game I enjoy fast paced combat. Less room for mistakes and it’s exciting.

Fast paste combat is ok but should not require skill to do 80%-100% damage, is that fun? There should not be less room for mistakes, there should be room for mistakes. What is the point for learning from mistakes? Learning Curve: “the course of progress made in learning something” Combat should be about learning. not about killing fast. What is the point of challenge if this is the case?

That is why i always say there is no challenge: because it is all about who can kill the other fast in 1-2 damage. What is the point of having challenge modes if you get killed in seconds? Did you know the word Endurance is in challenging definition?

Evidence:

Challenging: “offering a challenge; testing one’s ability, endurance, etc:”
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/challenging

Endurance: “the ability or strength to continue or last,”
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/endurance?s=t

What is the point of testing another player strength, skills if they can just burst you 80%-100% using skill?

What is the point of endurance in a combat if another player can just burst you 80%-100% using skill, no matter what build use or not matter what armor you wear?

When Arena net want to take Endurance/Challenge serious, i will take the game serious.

Guild Wars 2 should be a Challenging/ Enduring game: not a Game Over game .

That is all.

Well, sorry, but again, fast paced combat is fun. And of course it requires skill. If your opponent is also glassy, then you both have potential to kill each other very fast, but who is faster, has better strategy, better reflexes etc? If you want to survive, then go bunker build, I hear those can kite forever.
And why do you say what gw2 should be? Just because you prefer something and wish it would work your way, it doesn’t mean that’s how the game should be. Game is and is gonna be what devs think it should be, because it’s their game.. You can only put suggestions/wishes, but you can’t tell anyone what a game should be.

DarkSyze.8627:

The main problem is: Burst. Thief, Elementalist, Elementalist, Ranger, Mesmer and Engineer burst are responsible for thin causing Instant Kills.

Suggestion:

Remove burst from these professionals
Make serious change to their burst: -90% burst damage reduction.

Burst, Instant Kill do not do not require skill-play or risk-reward.. this suggestion will encourage them to be challenge and play with risk and be reward for it… instead of reward for it first.

Sorry but some of us enjoy fast paced combat. PvE mobs are easy anyway, fighting them for five minutes each will not make it fun. And pvp… well i’m not pvper, but when I do pvp in any game I enjoy fast paced combat. Less room for mistakes and it’s exciting.

EDIT: And playing glass cannon is exactly high risk high reward. Squishy and powerful, which means you have to perform with little to no mistake or get wrecked.

How to fix guardians? Rename them to “mesmers” and it will be hotfixed yesterday
Sorry, had to do it.

Your stuff. Give it to me.

You can change your build whenever you like for free, unless you want to change armor stats as well, then it will cost you to get new armor of course.

1. Lol at “zerg”. A lot of players don’t know the difference between “zerg” and “zerk”. Zerg is what you described, bunch of people in same place facerolling everything in their way, while “zerk” is short for berserker, which is combination of offensive stats on gear (power/precision/ferocity).

2. If you’re in his party (group) you can see him on the map, if you’re in the same server.
You can also see dungeons on map (they have special icons that look like some cave entrance). I think it might also say in LFG tools where each dungeon is but not sure about that atm, as I’m not in the game. You have to be in the same map as dungeon is to enter a dungeon. So for example, if you want to enter Twilight Arbor dungeon, you need to be anywhere in Caledon Forest map.

3. Yes, you can swap and it’s not wrong. It’s just polite that you inform your party of that before starting dungeon, ask them if they feel ok by you switching at the end.
You can paly as level 80 in dungeon and then switch to your low level at the end to get experience.

4. Lvl 80 have best gear and all traits and skills unlocked so they are most effective in every dungeon. Yes, you can solo dungeons, except a few where you need few people to activate console or somethign like that, which can’t be done solo.

Scientia.8924:

Feirlista Xv.1425:

These types of sub forums always turn toxic and the moderators have enough to deal with in the forum as a whole, there are plenty of other places outside of these forum to discuss those topics, go there.

Obviously it’s better that they be toxic in a subforum rather than in the main forum used to discuss upcoming changes, balance issues, etc.

I can’t believe you actually think that. Do you think trolls care? Do you think they will be kind enough to go open thread in “correct” forum to troll? And what is toxic? People complaining? I think that everyone who used internet at least couple of times knows that each forum will have people complaining about something, especially gaming forums. And not every complain is “wrong” and should be considered as toxic behaviour.
If you want to fight with someone and insult each other, make a guild of like minded people and you can kick each other in the head or something.

This sucks. Doesn’t make sense at all. How can swiftness affect movement, but not movement skills/abilities? This is just like reflect. It works on some mobs, but not on some others, which it should, since it’s clearly projectile coming at you. So it really kittenes me off, because it feels so cheap and stupid to just magically not work on some.
I’m sorry, but this change is bullkitten. :/

EDIT: Plus like you said, OP, there is no good reason for doing this. If it is I’d like to know. I think if there was good reason, they would say it.

How can people still complain about this? Every proffesion has way more options now to make a good build. If you can’t make yourself a decent build now, then idk what to say to you.

If you want a sense of accomplishment, then i’m not sure why you’re complaining. He is at least a bit of a challenge now, he was super easy before, so how could you feel any kind of accomplish beating him before patch?

Killed it with pugs with 1 minute left on timer earlier.

Told ya. They buffed us to make us happy and go preorder HoT. Give them 1-2 weeks and we’ll be back to … well yeah.

I had so much fun with my mesmer in these 2 days I haven’t had for a looong time. Tried different builds and they worked very well, tried even shatterer in dungeons and it’s super fun, ofc it’s not the most effective build for dungeons, but it’s still perfectly fine and fun in most situations.
Too bad anet will nerf shatterer and maybe other stuff and pve will be boring again, just like it happens every time pvpers are not happy.

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Why do you even bother with such topics. This is like trying to insert your opinion in someone’s mind. I never played WoW for example, so i don’pt care about their expansions. How that sounds to you? Besides, even if all other mmos that exist have 50$ tag on their expansions, I still don’t care. If I don’t feel the amount of content I’d be getting is worth the money, that’s it, you won’t change my mind by whining here.
And people always take “bad” examples to compare and make their point. Why don ‘t you take games that are great and provide a lot of content ffor that money, for example, you cna get witcher 3 for that money and it’s probably few times bigger and better than this expansion.

And no, extra character slot won’t do it. Not for everyone. It might be a deal maker for those that really need it for revenant, but many people including myself are perfectly fine with character slots (already bought few of them). So again, slapping character slot as extra doesn’t make any difference for me, because it would be useless for me, so yeah I’m in a camp “no way I’m paying 50 bucks for expansion”.
Simply lower the price for those that already own core game, I don’t want any extras to justify 50 bucks tag, because I will get whatever extra I want from gem store if I want, when I want.

I can take you with me and my friend in any dungeon you like, feel free to add me.

At level 80 is when you can start customizing your character and trying out different builds and experience the true potential of your class.
You won’t bother much with your character before lvl 80, bcause it just doesn’t make much sense, since you would need to change gear anyway every 5-10 levels.

Behellagh.1468:

At least the uncasuals didn’t team up and kicked you. That’s usually my fate.

That’s another good point. If I don’t have at least two friends with me, I can’t even touch those trolls. They join my group and start rushing ahead. And what I’m suppose to do. I can only exit dungeons and put new lfg.

maha.7902:

and then on the other side of things you have people looking for “fast” runs who get people joining their groups in low dps gear and doing stupid stuff

so the only thing we can honestly conclude with this is “humans are idiots”

so yeah. OP, you got unlucky. other people do as well. that’s just life.

Yeah, I know, I had same problem with my speedruns. But it was still easier to get people, there are way more speedrunners than players that would play this kind of runs I want now. Ah well…

Ykfox.3825:

To be blunt, why don’t you start/find a guild specifically for people who like to do casual dungeon runs like what you’re interested in?

There’s a number of upsides to doing it with guildies instead of random people you’ll never see again after the dungeon.

I’ve been in quite a few guilds, trying to find the right one for me. Thing is, even though most of them were casual, they still ran dungeons like speedrunners, just not as fast and are not necessary full zerkers. Of course if I ask them if we can kill everything they will usually say ok. But I would then have to ask them every single time. Also I can’t get guild group up everytime I feel like doing dungeon. And I do dungeons a lot. If I have time I’ll try to do most of the paths that are otherwise popular for speedrunning, so that could be about 10-15 runs/paths. So getting guild group for that…. I’ve never got that.

Anyway, thanks for suggestion, it makes sense to find a guild, but it’s not as easy as it sounds, because like I said, even casuals seem to regularly go with most of the speedrunning tactics. Besides, this should not be an excuse for people to ignore LFGs and troll. Why can’t I simply put a LFG when I want to do dungeon and get sane people who can comprehend what “p2, casual run, no skipping, kill everything” means?
After all, I’d say one of the reason why LFG exist is to give people tool to find like minded people and do dungeon runs in a way they wish. But, yeah, I guess too few people understand that. I guess I’m a rare and weird sort, being experienced in dungeons, wishing for effective runs, while keeping it casual + killing everything. Well, maybe I’m crazy, but that’s why I used LFG tool so I can explain what kind of run I want. But doesn’t work most of the time.

Read whole post before please, before you decide to start throwing insults or snarky comments.

So, I recently came back to gw2 after pretty long break and before my break I used to do a lot of dungeons. Speedruns 95% of the time. Now that I returned, speedrunning started to feel like a job to me, rushing ahead just for that final chest/reward. I want to do some casual runs, no skipping, killing everything, because it’s fun and I get a lot of loot (don’t tell me to go to silverwaste, because this is not topic about most efficient farming or something). It really feels different for me now, if I get lucky and get good group that is, because casual run doesn’t have to mean we need to fail and wipe in every fight. It still should be smooth run, just with no skipping.

Sounds simple, yeah? Well it’s a kittening nightmare. Becuase people can’t or won’t read descriptions. I tried “READ: p2, casual run, no skipping, kill everything” for example, tried later even with caps lock. But what I get is usually:

1.) They come in and start rushing ahead. I ask them “Did you read description?” I get one of these responses:
a) Yes. (means he’s ignoring me and don’t give a kitten and hopes I won’t notice or just forget about “no skip part” and tag along with him and skipp stuff.
b) No… (bye then)
c) Yes, but why don’t we skip, it doesn’t make sense (Should I care what makes sense for you? It’s my LFG, you have tens of speedrun LFG every minute popping up and you have to choose mine “casual run” to come in and ignore my description because it doesn’t make sense to you that we don’t skip. What the kitten?)

2.) If not that, then I end up getting either people with 500 ap (which I can’t complain since I never put AP requierement in description, but still I get to see bunch of low AP people that trie4s to rush and skip stuff, which makes me sad. Had 3x 600-700 ap people in TA few days ago, that wanted to skip stuff even tho they were only once in that dungeon. How sad is that?)
And the last option is I get a guy, almighty pro kitten guy that feels like bossing everyone around, just because it’s casual run, so it must mean everyone is total noob?
So they start telling everyone how to do stuff and how to exploit evry part. (Dude, it’s kittening casual run with no skipping, what are exploits for?)

Like I said, I’m not just some casual who hates speedrunners, I know almost everything about meta, I’m also “zerk”, I like efficient runs, so I’m familiar with skipping and speedrunning. But when I was speedrunning I never joined casual run LFGs. I never joined 8k AP+ groups because I don’t meet that requirement, even tho we all know you don’t need 8k ap to do TA. I never kicked anyone because he didn’t perform perfectly. I only kicked those who deserved it like trolls and if someone was insulting others etc. If we were failing hard, I would just leave group instead of kicking. I never yelled at anyone. If I didn’t put speedrun or something similar in my lfg description, I didn’t expect of people who joined to do speedrun and to know all the pro tricks and I didn’t yell at them for stupid reasons.

Looks like skipping, rushing, exploiting is now even common feature of casual runs or people are really braindead and can’t read simple description.

This might have been better to put in dungeons subforum, but I wanted to put it here in general, because I doubt most people read dungeon subforum and this message adresses all players.

Another example for bonus facepalm: I put description that says “p2”, some guy joins and first thing he asks: “What path?”

That’s why you should play charr. “I need some SPACE!”

+1 for mute. I can’t even describe how annoying these minis are. I can’t believe how one such thing can frustrate me so much. kittening super banana.

I’m also looking for competent people that would like to do complete runs, meaning kill everything, no skipping. but I do stack. So if anyone wants to do such runs, feel free to add/contact me.

Binkydink.2697:

serialkicker.5274:

Binkydink.2697:

Brother Grimm.5176:

Binkydink.2697:

……
Strafe is running with your head turned sideways.
….

No it’s not…and if you continue to insist this is so, your credibility is nil.

While an alternative to the constant need for RMB use is not something I would object to, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the way the game implements strafing (it should be slower than a forward run).

DUDE I just downloaded the game to make sure I wasn’t delusional. GUESS WHAT? My character is running with his head turned forward when he is strafing. Just like I said. I cannot freaking believe the amount of people who purposively trolled this thread. He is also running about 40% slower when he strafes. So yes strafe is all messed up in this game. Maybe it was a balancing issue in beta but at least acknowledge common sense or quit trolling people’s threads on games you don’t even play.

DUDE, you made a topic about something before even checking if they have done anything about it. You said you haven’t played game for a while, so your brain randomly picked up a thought of how you had trouble strafing in gw2 and you came to make a topic not even knowing if there was anything done about it, DUDE!

Plus, running left and right while your head is facing mob = strafing! DUDE

Looks to me you’re trolling your own thread.

Not a random thought it was the reason I stopped playing and they have done nothing about it probably because of players like yourself who see nothing wrong with it. And would rather troll someone and lie to them about the current situation then come up with a solution.

I’m playing gw2 for 2+ years and this is the first time I heard anyone having problem with moving/strafing. You expect them to do something about something because one random guy has a problem with it? Plus there is no problem. I don’t know why you expect to strafe at the same speed as running forward. And then you call us trolls… Don’t be ridiculous.
You don’t like something about game and come here to accuse other people “you’re the reason they haven’t fixed this yet!” Haha, what the hell.
Also, learn what strafe is before you continue making fool of yourself.

Binkydink.2697:

Brother Grimm.5176:

Binkydink.2697:

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Strafe is running with your head turned sideways.
….

No it’s not…and if you continue to insist this is so, your credibility is nil.

While an alternative to the constant need for RMB use is not something I would object to, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the way the game implements strafing (it should be slower than a forward run).

DUDE I just downloaded the game to make sure I wasn’t delusional. GUESS WHAT? My character is running with his head turned forward when he is strafing. Just like I said. I cannot freaking believe the amount of people who purposively trolled this thread. He is also running about 40% slower when he strafes. So yes strafe is all messed up in this game. Maybe it was a balancing issue in beta but at least acknowledge common sense or quit trolling people’s threads on games you don’t even play.

DUDE, you made a topic about something before even checking if they have done anything about it. You said you haven’t played game for a while, so your brain randomly picked up a thought of how you had trouble strafing in gw2 and you came to make a topic not even knowing if there was anything done about it, DUDE!

Plus, running left and right while your head is facing mob = strafing! DUDE

Looks to me you’re trolling your own thread.

I have no problem with map completion with my mesmer.
If your mesmer is level 80, there is a lot you can do to increase your travel speed. My fav are Traveler runes.
And for taking out weaker mobs, I go with shatter build. I don’t pvp or WvW (I did a little a while ago), so I never really got to play shatter build much, even tho i wish i would. So I decided to play with it in open world a bit and it works for me. It works great on weaker mobs and it gives you some more survivability against tougher ones.

Same problem. I keep getting thrown back to LA. It’s frustrating.

penelopehannibal.8947:

Superfast.5901:

Maybe that girl left to play Wildstar like all the other intelligent people.

There’s so many people on the GW2 forums that say they’ve left or hinted they left, yet still feel they care to comment in the forums. confused

Why wouldn’t they? I’m also not playing anymore (I log in sometimes to say hello to guild), but why shouldn’t I visit this hilarious forum and laugh at cheesy comments like this one of youirs and in the same time check out on the progress of a game?
I also haven’t played Mass effect for a while and I still visit bioware forum sometime… Why not?

EDIT: Oh and on topic, I remember seeing that guy couple of times, had a good laugh

Azrael.4960:

I run with my guildmates and we sometimes take on a pug who sometimes asks “y no stack?” The best response from my guild matewas, “cos we’re not cowards”. Think we were doing AC spider queen. Then proceeded to fire off our combos and tear the queen limb from limb.

When I LFG, I usually make sure to add “no stacking, killing everything in sight” and it fills quickly with people who are of the same mind. Do the dungeon the way it was meant to, not the fastest way possible.

One AC run, did all paths, slaughtered everything that didn’t respawn. We’d skip the mobs in the Tzark path when you clear the hall of burrows since they’re unending. Hell, we even killed all the gravelings in the various corridors. Now that was fun.

You obviously don’t know why people stack. But here, have a medal for your bravery. So stronk :O

Why do you even bother with this guy? He post a build and then he gets valid replies on why build is not good, so he proceeds to call everyone a troll.
To be honest, he looks more of a troll then anyone else here.

I run 6/6/0/0/2 most of the time for dps. I only switch to 2/4/0/4/4 when i need high reflection uptime.

Your build seems like it wants to do both, which is not terrible, but now after update, when you can quickly switch traits I rather choose either dps or reflect.

“Know what cannot be known”
“Fight what cannot be fought”

From same NPC…. Face kitten palm.

Skoteinos.4213:

Pyroathiest.4168:

…but it’s not going to work, and you’re making claims that simply aren’t true and that you can’t back up.

You can complain all you want, but as I said before, arguing with math is generally a futile endeavor.

I don’t lie.
I don’t complain nor arguing. Just cherish a great build which your math will never let you enjoy. Mesmer is more FUN played like this and not as a meta….

How wise is to isolate my Bleeding damage only vs a whole power meta build?
.. every time your Phantasms die much sooner than expected and you just wait for their recharge time to make yourself useful again, my Condition stacks Run on the target…

..Is that the point? That I back up?.. ok
I back up. Case is closed for me.

If you play it because it’s fun, then that’s ok, no problem with that. I do agree ofc it’s inferior to power builds, but if you want fun and you like this cond build better then go ahead, play it. But I wouldn’t go and argue about how condition build can melt.
There are tons of videos proving what power builds can do and how fast they get the job done. However there are no such videos for condition builds, at least i haven’t seen any. If you want to prove how cond melts enemies, record a video where you melt veteran risen giant. Last time I checked record was about 12 seconds for mesmer (dps build obviously). If you’ll melt him down in 20sec I applaud you.

Yeah, you would think they would make precursors stand out with maybe special text colour or something, but nooo, screw that, would be too logical and convenient.

Also, like someone said, no one is forcing you to play zerker. I have friends in game that doesn’t play zerker and they don’t feel forced into anything and they have no problem finding groups that they can enjoy playing with. Even I play with them sometimes.

I see you didn’t read much about my post.

VideoGamermike.5813:

1) Lets begin with your comments to efficiency as this is an important subject. As in it needs to die right here and now. Games are not about efficiency, games aren’t about how fast you can beat something and how little effort you can do it with. The people who beta howling king in 12 seconds(or without getting touched on the reverse end), pride to you….but those who think that is a good idea to -force- people to do, need to learn what a game is. People in games -want- to struggle, we WANT to be challenged reasonably, that why people defend dungeon difficulty in the first place, we all -want- inefficiency. I still have my gripes at AC dungeon, but I can’t regret going there. The fact is we all play for different reasons and want to put our effort in for different things, you wanna berserker rush, fine, but don’t get angry or say such really hurtful and mean things just because people like me don’t want to be Pete from Darths and Droids. Not all of us judge our fun by how fast and hard we can win.

That’s just your opinion, man… If the fastest way to kill stuff is not your thing, then it doesn’t mean other people don’t enjoy it. I enjoy killing stuff faster more than slower.
I enjoy more bursting down boss in 10 second rather than fighting him 20 min. Because there is a limit of how long one fight should take before it gets boring for me. If I’m fighting some lame boss 20 min and the whole fight is the same, rinse and repeat, then that’s hella boring.
Talking about a challenge? Let’s take last bos in TA for exmaple. You enjoy afk-AA-ing that tree for 5-10 min? (I asume you go range there) That is challenging for you?
More challenging is if you go melee, it’s a lot more chance you’ll die if you don’t dodge his attacks. And it’s faster, so it’s not THAT boring.
Let’s go to troll in hotw. You enjoy sitting on a roof and afk range troll, while he can’t reach you there, because he’s stupid? That’s challenging and fun?
I’m sorry, but i don’t agree with your definiotion of fun. And accept it, that some people actually enjoy speedrunning. That can actually be challenging, if you’re trying to improve yourself and be better every time and maybe beat someone’s record.
People find fun in different stuff. Some enjoy different games, different playstyle, different genres etc.. Sorry, but please don’t asume that zerkers can’t have fun.

VideoGamermike.5813:

Yes, if a party asks for pure berserkers, they have the right to ban for it. but that in itself is foolish, sure a few people might have legit reasons, but when everyone their brother is demanding nothing but lvl 80 berserkers, you have a problem. The point of this thread as I saw it was not to bash berserker building, but to bash those who do it purely because they want speed and DPS, and get angry when people don’t follow their personal expectations and likes.

Again, sorry it’s your opinion. Same as it’s mine and others that zerk is best option and we like to play it. If you can’t respect that, i’m sorry, i don’t know why you even expect to be carried if LFG is cleary saying “zerk only”. Why not get angry? I get angry too, because people are ignoring descriptions. They read it and they choose to ignore it. That is wrong. Sorry, complain to ANet, the game mechanics are allowing full zerk team to be the best composition. And that’s why most of people use it. Are you complaining about how many fans lady gaga has? Maybe you don’t like her, I don’t either, but I don’t care, I won’t say, “hey her music is wrong and no one should listen to her.” I have different taste in music, so I’ll just not listen to her.

VideoGamermike.5813:

3) Yes, “non zerkers” have the right to play without being beserker builds. You’re way is superior only in DPS. Not everyone wants to do that. …..

Again, opinions. Not everyone likes zerker and not everyone likes “non zerker”. So let us each other play what we want, hm?

VideoGamermike.5813:

4) You are correct, skipping is not a part of this. But stack sure as heck is. Not the act of stacking but the reasons behind it. That being the berseker is a root cause of it. No one would stand in the corner of AC if they weren’t confident in killing mrs.spider quickly, without berserkers, that whole idea is nothing. But yah, skipping isnt related here.

In could write a long post about this too, but I’m getting lazy It’s a again a matter of opinion and taste. I can understand if stacking is not fun. That’s why you have LFG or guild, Make your own groups.

VideoGamermike.5813:

Optimal by whos standards?! by what scale?! I have see NOTHING but damage per second, and time taken. That is not you examine something! I angry because I’ve had to sit here and read people saying how ‘greater’ berkserker rushes are and how greta stacking is because it works for them, WOOP-DE-DO, it does not make your ideas any better than someone else.

Ok, let’s ignore the argument for a bit ans ask this simple question. By what standard do you and half this forum define ‘efficient’, by what standard do you define somethings worth. If your answer is time and damage per second as the only candidates, you aren’t an expert, your a fool. Actions and strategy are not that simple, you cannot digress something as worthless because of a single statistic. I can argue heads over tails about why this spamming DPS is not efficient, it puts way too much into risk, and way too much into reaction time. Stack is not a strong tactic if it’s used the way I’ve been seeing, its a desperate gambit, and I am not talking about Ashalon Catacombs either.
If you guys want to say ‘I think a sword works here because of X," fine. But me choosing that idea to be worthless and a waste of everyone’s time and entertainment, is not wrong, its not worse, its not better, its not perfect, no different from yours. Stop trying to pretend everyone here is an expert when the only things I have been told is DPS, DPS, and DPS.

Wow, you’re one mad person. Berserker is the most efficient, because it kills fastest and game mechanics are so lame that only damage matters. Doesn’t mean other gear is not “efficient” or can’t be play with, but they are inferior. Why? Because if you’re good enough to survive in berserker gear, there is no reason to wear other gear that would lower your damage. You can wear it if you want, no one cares, until you come into party that has clearly stated all zerk requirement, but you choose to ignore it and that’s when kicks start falling.
For some reason a lot of “non zerkers” think that their way of playing is right and only acceptable. Why is that? Why do you think your way is the right way? We provided all the reasons why zerk is superior, where are your reasons and explanations on why other gear is better? I don’t see any, you just keep crying and hating.
And btw, I’m running dungeons everyday and I haven’t seen kicking and zerker hating on non zerkers and blaming them for failing etc., like some of you are trying to say here. Looks like people are just making things up how bad groups are and giving fake examples how they were kicked. I can’t remember when was the last time someone kicked a pugged in regular lfg group for not having all zerk gear.
And also most of the groups doesn’t have any requirements whatsoever.

P.S. Oh and another thing, because I see a lot of people mentioning it. Being zerker doesn’t have to do anything with stacking, skipping mobs etc. You don’t have to be zerker to be able to skip mobs. So don’t talk kitten like that anymore. I’ve seen people in clerics skipping cof bridge too, omfg, traitors!!!
Skipping mobs is not zerk specific, people are skipping mobs because they don’t give any rewards to be worth killing them or because they want to finish dungeon asap, not because they wear zerk gear, lmao. Some people and their logic …

Well, first thing that comes on my mind when I think about mind stab is small radius. Pair that with the not so good damage and you end up thinking if you should even use that skill, instead of just autoattacking. Radius is small, so it’s not hard to miss your enemy.

I wouldn’t mind 180 radius, target reduced to 3 players, 3 stacks of bleeding on target. I don’t care about boon remove tbh. CD stays the same. I don’t know why some of you feel like you have to compensate for changing this skill… it’s pretty meh skill atm, it needs a buff, not a change that wouldn’t make it any more useful then it is now…

OP, If you want add me and you can join for a dungeon tour. You’ll make 20-40g or more a day.