Guild Wars 2

ErraticFaith.9142:

Disappointingly I’ve never had the privilege of being turned into a bird :* I see it used so infrequently in fact perhaps anet should extend the duration to one week. Perhaps chuck a bit of torment onto one of the skills it has too. Might gain it some popularity.

Why is it then I get turned into a moa about twice every tournament? It happened so often I gave up running away and now actually try to attack with moa. Though to its credit I pecked someone to death the other day so it’s not 100% OP i guess..

Used to name mine Thiefkilla
Now I’m thinking about changing it to Thiefood. (Seafood. Geddit?)

nah Jk I don’t play a mesmer and seeing that patchnote I sure as hell aren’t going to play one now lmao.

LordByron.8369:

it happened only for thieves.

As you can see anything endangering thief get constantly nerfed into oblivion.

rtl, D/D ele, Confusion, phantasms, into the void, guardians armor via boon damage…

You should ve noticed a pattern already…..
Any counter to thief has to disappear from the game.

Oh my god you’re right. It’s true.
I think the next gw2 expansion is gonna be called Thief War in which everyone is a thief and can use either A> heartseeker B> backstab and has perma stealth.

ErraticFaith.9142:

I think you made the mistake of assuming we have lives away from forums or a life from which to gain a sense of humor showatt. Be ashamed of yourself. :p

I got told

All joking aside, any moa nerf? Because that’s probably the only mesmer skill I have issues with.

Iavra.8510:

So basically a flat 20% nerf to every phantasm build out there. We are used to getting nerfed every month anywhere…

Oh that’s good. I’m glad mesmer are taking this patch in such a cheerful manner! Rangers everywhere could really learn a few thing or two from mesmers… Ranger forum is like a funeral march atm.

So what do you think we should nerf next now that Phantasm is done with?

ErraticFaith.9142:

Assumption is never wise.

Yes. You got me.

I really believe that every useful skill that a mesmer has should be nerfed to the ground. While we’re on the topic, I think clones need to go too. Mesmer has too many of them it’s confusing. Also, get rid of confusion. It’s just ridiculous to punish the opponent for using skills.

lastly, I think mesmer should only be able to use 1 weapon like Elementalist.

Moa is fine. Leave Moa as it is.

XRay.1920:

wrong time to make bad jokes about mesmers.

or maybe you’re just too serious about this game.
Have you tried playing a Necro? I hear its quite fun to play until the bugs kick in.

XRay.1920:

In case you missed it, shatter builds won’t be affected by this nerf, only phantasm ones.

In case you missed it (which I’m pretty sure you did), It was a joke, as is every one of my posts. I thought it quite obvious, but maybe I was wrong.

XRay.1920:

OP where? in pve? sure.

OP everywhere.

I think there is a simple solution to this problem though: Nerf shatter.

Lol.

fadeaway.2807:

As posted in another thread:

It is a much larger loss than you think. With cooldowns of 12 seconds on your two weapon sets a phantasm mesmer would use this rotation:
phantasm #1
swap weapon
phantasm #2
wait 12 seconds… phantasm #2
swap weapon
phantasm #1
wait 12 seconds… phantasm #1
swap weapon
phantasm #2
over and over…
The result was 2 phantasms every 12 seconds.

Using the same weapon swap logic we now get 2 phantasms every 16 seconds, or a 33% nerf in phantasms per second.

Under the new logic you will be waiting for the 48 second mark in a fight to unleash your third salvo of phantasms, previously it took just 36 seconds. Make no mistake, this is a huge nerf to phantasm builds.

I once did a lot of maths to come to the conclusion that is is absolutely essential for a phantasm build to have both the weapon trait AND illusionist’s celerity in order to maximise phantasms per second. For this reason I only ever used 10/30/0/25/5 with sw/sw + sw/pi, or 0/20/20/25/5 with sw/sw and staff.

Shatter vs phantasm was an even tossup prior to this. Those extra 4-6 seconds on the phantasms make this a nobrainer for me, it’s back to shatter I go. If shatter is nerfed next patch to complete the nerfing of every single decent mesmer spec I’ll swap mains.

I would have preferred a damage nerf due to target swapping and the increased hp per second the enemy would have to chew through if they decided to kill the phantasms (which in turn gave more retaliation damage back to them).

Don’t forget you also lose the cooldown buff to things like staff #2, greatsword #2 and sword #3. Not to mention decoy.

Phantasm spec almost requires signet of illusions now, but shatter spec is free to take something more useful.

Finally, anet said they do not balance around 1v1.

Shatter > phantasm by far for all modes of gameplay if this change goes through, and I’ve been a phantasm fan almost my whole lvl 80 life whether it be roaming, zerging, spvping or pveing, even through the confusion era.

If they nerf shatter and blurred frenzy next, we’ll have nothing left.

well I guess the huge amount of things the dev got to nerf to ‘balance’ mesmer simply go to show how massively OP you guys were. Maybe it’s time to taste what it feels like to be an underdog like BM ranger….

Note: that last part was a joke, but given the upcoming patchnote you guys are in the same boat.

it’s getting fixed in a upcoming patch.

ColinJohanson.2394:

Very high level, you can find our over-all plans for 2013 here:

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/colin-johanson-on-guild-wars-2-in-the-months-ahead/

We’ll put out an updated Gw2 in 2013 blog post in mid/late July that summarizes where we’re going in the second half of the year, and goes into greater details and specifics on systems we’ve talked high level about so far.

Collin you looked like a talking wax figure in that video lmao

Kryyg.8576:

Everyone was freaking out and pretty excited when they saw TW zone in, but then we found out they aren’t staying. We will keep trying to convert them though.

so they have to put up JQQers like you? i doubt it

didn’t DB talk about replacing JQ’s position in T1 about a month ago when JQ was losing so badly to BG? didn’t DB have people come to JQ’s LA about a month ago demoralize JQ’s militia and recruiting for DB? Didn’t DB act like they have what it takes to compete with the big old T1 server?

you asked for it, now you are getting it…i enjoy farming the arrogant DB folks over and over again. DB’s ego needs to be crushed, so they can learn their place.

I just dig up another piece of gold…:P

RE really is the cancer of DB. all they did is giving DB bad press.

uberkingkong.8041:

All good brother, EMP aka RE is having the same success you are having and a lot of people are hating on JQ. The only difference between you and rawbrah is you moved to a #2 T1 server and got it to #1. Rawbrah he brought a T3 server all way up to T2 and dominating T2 soon enough he will be in T1 and there will be lots of drama especially if RE owns our JQ NA guilds.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/UPDATED-EMP-Emperium-RE-Red-Essence/first

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Dragonbrand-Welcome-new-WvW-guilds

Your drama will be forgotten in a week or two.

I’m pretty excited, because the only reason that I can think of why Rawbrah left JQ and brought a lot of EMP BEST commanders/ and players with him is because he got tired of living in FOO’s shadow.

All I have to say is SoR needs to goto T2 because they cant win anything anymore, they cant even place 2nd either, Dragonband needs to come to T1 because they are clearly DOMINATING T2, none of those servers even COMPARE to Dragonbrand because its a T1 fighting type server now.

We need to start this all out war FOO vs RISE vs RE, see whose guild carries the server to victory. WE need to settle this whose the best once and for all, just screw the wvw rankings, Dragonband should be moved to T1 and SoR moved to T2.

SoR has been consecutively been placing 3rd 60-70k away, while Dragonbrand is consecutively beating up servers by 60-110k. You tell me who moves up and who moves down.

Elano.2014:

showatt.9413:

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Actions of a few does not represent the whole server. Am I supposed to despise JQ because of your words?

And to be honest, people are always excited to “rise to the top”. It’s not like DB has anything against JQ, but JQ, at that time, did seem to be the most possible server to drop down to T2. Hence the talking.

Despise JQ? oh feel free to do so, i don’t like JQ myself.

Don’t know why DB guys acting all upset and defensive, all i did was merely quoting the kitten DB said last month, can’t face your own kitten now right?

I am loving the DB bashing we have so far. Here’s are some reasons why DB is hated among the old T1 servers.

1) They acted like they are the new big guy and talked about replacing the old T1 JQ and SoR 2 weeks after they went from T3 to T2.

Here’s a DB guy talking about kicking JQ out of T1

So the plan is SoR getting blue spot and then when JQ is red DB will take their place in T1 ? :p
Okay we got it, let’s push JQ out of T1 ^^

and here’s a rawnoodle’s fanboy talking about SoR is worthless should go back to T2 ( funny isn’t it)

uberkingkong.8041:

UnrepentantProcrastinator.7420:

I kind of want to see JQ vs DB just for the hell of it.

Two successful guild transfers. RISE to Blackgate. EMP/RE to Dragonbrand. Yes there is a lot of drama, just mentioning EMP transferring to Dragonband gets people riled up.

I know one thing, SoR needs to go…. NOW

If they don’t leave, they just going to get squashed like a bug like they always do. SoR is worthless in T1.

2) last month when JQ was losing badly to BG, some of the DB folks went to JQ’s LA, and talked about JQ ‘was dying’ and tried to recruit the remaining JQ guilds for DB. Trying to demoralize a T1 server as a T2 server and speed up the dying process of JQ so they can take the advantage? that should give you some idea about the class of this server’s wvw community

You had it coming DB, this should be a reality check for you guys.

aelflune.8590:

Yeah, we can’t really complain, although it makes the whole SoR shtick about looking for good fights look lame as well.

looking for good fight and gaining as much as ppt if you can are not mutually exclusive.

less QQ and more pew pew please.

When we utilize our own SEA coverage advantage against other servers and winning, we told other server to suck it up and stop QQing about our coverage.

Now SoR is using their coverage advantage against other servers and you guys say it’s lame.

i feel really ashamed by the hypocrisy displayed by fellow Quarrians.

i find it very amusing to see that those JQ representatives still claiming that JQ has a good wvw community…maybe JQ did have a great community, but it’s gone now.

Why don’t you tell us why Fire, the guild that was on JQ since launch decided to transfer to DB? how about the departure of Omen? Also, if you are thinking about transferring to JQ, you need to watch out some of the commanders from HzH and AoS, they love yelling at PuGs who question their fail tactics, these so-called commanders even went as far as threatening to ban PuGs who have different views from using the server’s TS.

And people wonder why JQ is doing so bad these days…

I urge the folks from Omen and Fire to speak up, tell us the sad reality of JQ’s wvw community. JQ needs to get rid of its bad blood before it sinks lower.

DeWolfe.2174:

Full map Zerging at 5am. Boy you sure do enjoy that PvDoor huh SoR?

….then they wonder why the WvW population continues to drop like a rock….
#smh

seriously? JQ complaining about pvdoor?

didn’t you guys used to enjoying that as well?

Masori.3528:

Man refreshing the topic and went back a page. Moderators are busy bees again.

Anyways you should know that wrex was doing this for the laugh and trying to get some fights. Instead of the cat and mouse games.

And he chose a really poor way to do it.

You know, I have always hated JQQ. I think they’re the biggest bunch of whiners around and i love seeing them lose but the rubbish that comes out of your guildies’ mouths are pretty cringeworthy considering you’ve just transferred and already you’re acting like you carry the server while SoR had been competent to begin with.

Winning, losing, it don’t matter. I’ve seen server come and go, from back when Henge was dominating to the rise of JQ to SoS. Look at Kaineng and where they are now. Nobody wins forever. No one lose forever. The only thing that matters is how you present yourselves. Sure, it’s all for giggles. Sure it was just trolling to get the blood pumping. That doesn’t stop you from being a prik though.

There are better ways to go about getting a fight; being a forum warrior isn’t one of them.

Since someone has already mentioned the news in the thread, there’s no need to hide it any longer I guess.

I present you, the biggest lie of the this month: JQ has a great wvw community.

Maybe JQ did have a great community, but not anymore.

Apparently some of the folks here have been staying in T1 for too long and their egos have grown exponentially. This ‘community’ has become very toxic.

The “major guild”, the one that’s the loudest on the forum, has been treating other smaller guilds like crap, showing them disrespect, so all the smaller guilds that used play an important part contributing JQ’s victory find it very difficult to work with this ‘Major Guild’ any longer.

JQ militia, have you ever wonder why JQ seems to be struggling lately? All the new inexperienced commanders running around cluelessly, the constant out-manned buff, even the queue on EB is getting shorter (sometimes you don’t get it at all!)

Is this the same JQ you used to know?

“It’s the event!!!” they say.

But ask yourself, dear JQ militia, do you feel any different now that the event has ended? Do you see your server making major progress in enemies’ borderlands?

BG and SoR how about you guys, have you ever wonder why JQ let BG to catch up a 15k gap without attempting to fight back? or their constant struggle to hold even one tower in your borderlands?.

Do you guys feel like you are fighting the same JQ?

This is the real reason JQ why has been under-performing…JQ’s wvw guilds have been fighting with themselves behind the scene for some times now. And it’s taking a toll on JQ’s wvw performance lately.

Of course, those charming JQ’s representatives here will assure you the community is still strong (lol) and they will just keep labeling those who choose to leave the server ‘fair-weathered players’ or ’ bandwagon-ers’.

Nope, these people are good players, as a Quarrian and a JQ militia myself i have fought alongside with them, they have better tactics, better direction, and they treat PuGs like us with respect and heart. It was You who drove these good people away.

You did it before, and now you are doing it again.

Nightshade.1493:

MatthewMedina.5419:

With all due respect, balancing content like a story instance is completely different than balancing an enhanced jumping puzzle like Super Adventure Box, so for us it just wasn’t feasible to consider doing an “easy” and “hard” mode in this particular case.

Instead we focused our time and energy into making a really unique, polished and hopefully memorable encounter that enables any group of five to complete in roughly an hour. I understand that there are players who will simply object philosophically to this direction, and wish that all the content we create to be solo-friendly, but our company has always been focused around building an online world that encourages our players to play our game together.

For those of you who have taken the plunge and shut down one of the Molten Facilities, thank you so much for giving it a try and giving us your feedback. Hope to see you on the front lines!

Hi Matthew,

I happened to read your response on the thread concerning the disappointment some players felt regarding the dungeon-based ending for flame and frost. I had posted on that thread as well, and although I do not believe your comment was responding to me directly, I wanted to reply to a particular portion of it:

“I understand that there are players who will simply object philosophically to this direction, and wish that all the content we create to be solo-friendly, but our company has always been focused around building an online world that encourages our players to play our game together.”

Personally, I am not idealogically opposed to content that is not solo friendly. I personally enjoy encountering dynamic events in the open world and joining in on the battle! And you all have crafted such a beautiful world!

The reason I left the game centers around my personal feeling that although there is a great deal of content one may experience as a solo player in the game, I felt there was virtually no content that one could experience to its conclusion as a solo player: Personal Story, Exploration, Living Story for examples.

That said, I know that each developer has their own philosophy regarding development and I respect that you have clarified that philosophy and intend to stick to your guns. I was feeling very moved at my disappointment in not being able to complete those three portions of the game I had enjoyed so much, that I wanted to let the team know that I was experiencing that disappointment.

Regards,
Matt (formerly Skade Thordottir)

I really don’t understand the difficulties some of you are facing.

How hard is it to just pug with people? Last time I tried I had no problem finishing the dungeon. The whole point of a MMO is so that you can play with other people. If you want to do everything by yourself you might as well play Skyrim or Dark Souls for that matter.

Myst Dawnbringer.9138:

Because a lot of players would have skipped it. I would like a refund please.

I wasn’t aware that we had to pay for the living story.
Oh wait, we didn’t.
If I can get a refund for every game i’ve played for about 80% of the content I’d be a millionaire.

Vargs.6234:

showatt.9413:

Last Warrior Lord.7248:

Well better play my ranger or guardian before they get nerfed “for no reason.”

For no reason? I dunnoe about that, friend. As far as I can tell there are lots of reasons to nerf Elementalist…

And yet these nerfs didn’t really do a whole lot to the nerfworthy aspects of elementalist, while crippling other types of elementalists and making the class a lot less fun to play. Pretty much exactly like the 4s thief revealed nerf last month.

I don’t know man, I’d like to think not being able to heal in Mist Form hurt every elem build…

And the RTL changes make it hard for elem to just cheese out of combat whenever they feel like it.

Sure some build hurts more than the others, but a nerf is a nerf.

Kaleban.9834:

That you missed this obvious part of my post and that you keep maintaining that no one other than quite possibly the best player of a class is worth your time obviously point to you being a troll, pure and simple.

I was wondering when the troll card is getting involved.

If I am a troll, and you really believe I am a troll, then you should stop replying to me, should you not?

Would you stake your entire life on full Elem bunker not being able to kill “anything” during wvw? Because I have a feeling you would not.

PS. and NO, mob do not count. I’m talking about full bunker Elem not being able to kill anyone – even bad players and those wearing full white and green.

Kaleban.9834:

showatt.9413:

So are you saying it’s a learn to play / learn to adopt issue? Because I didn’t actually want to go there…

Also, I hardly think ‘absolutely unplayable’ is something that should be tossed around so easily. Challenging? Yes. Harder to master? maybe. But absolutely unplayable? Because of a few nerf here and there?

Thieves stealth and HS got nerfed to dust ages ago and people still spam them to this day. Yet they were crying about their class being unplayable after their nerfs too. So really, what is going on here?

No its not a L2 kitten ue! GOD! You said you would accept nothing less than the premier example of class play as the baseline for comparison. NOT EVERY ELE PLAYER IS daphoenix! Do you even hear yourself?

The bolded part of your quote is important. Perhaps you should apply the same logic to tossing around “ELE IS OP NEED NERF” comments? The Ele has been consistently nerfed since launch, not a few here and there, starting with about a 60% damage reduction on Staff and continuing from there.

Thieves’ stealth is not “nerfed to dust” as you claim. A now 3s Revealed debuff is enough time for a Thief to get off a combo and then re-stealth. HS before its nerf was like combining RtL with pinpoint Meteor Storm. Tremendous damage plus a gap closer.

You should look up the definition of the term “hyperbole.” Its present in all of your posts.

Did thieve rely on stealth and HS? yes. Did they get nerfed? yes.

Did Elementalist rely on RTL and mist form? Yes. Did they get nerfed? Yes.

Elementalist is OP based on fact; just as Thieves were OP is based on fact. These skills don’t get nerfed because the dev went " oh hey let’s nerf Elementalist and thieves just for fun."

They got nerfed because people complain and complain so the dev playtested and went ‘hmmm there is some problem here. They’re relying on certain skills way too much. Ok guys gather round. what do we do?’

However, absolutely unplayable is not a fact.
People still plays it after the nerf.
See where I’m getting at?

And when a mechanic gets tweak, not one person is responsible for the idea. There will be developers in the team who goes “hang on but why don’t we just do this instead’ and developers who goes ‘nah let’s do it this way.”

So you can be certain that they’re not just blind nerfing classes.

deek.6520:

It’s been awhile since i played like maybe ummm about 6+ months maybe longer i mainly just pve so is the ele okay to travel alone?

Like before if i fought 2 enemies i had to run it was to much has this problem been dealt with?

So you want to be able to 1 vs 2 at any given time? Regardless of skills?
Thanks. You really shed some light as to why Elementalist is in this fix at the moment.

PS. if you’re talking about 1 vs 2 mobs then its definitely a l2 kitten ue.

Last Warrior Lord.7248:

Well better play my ranger or guardian before they get nerfed “for no reason.”

For no reason? I dunnoe about that, friend. As far as I can tell there are lots of reasons to nerf Elementalist…

Kaleban.9834:

showatt.9413:

I’m sorry but unless you’re Daphoenix I’m not gonna take your statement seriously. It’s nothing personal. If you can link me a post where Dap complains about not being able to kill people in wvw and post a video of him failing I’ll gladly reconsider my position.

Wait. Your argument is that unless I’m the top tier player of a class, that my input is invalid? You do realize how silly that sounds right? A guy like daphoenix could probably take the Warrior into tPvP and pwn with it, its the player’s skill in his case. Which means the class isn’t OP, the player is OP. Nerf daphoenix?

The flipside is, for the vast majority of players who aren’t as skilled, their survivability just dropped ridiculously.

I was just responding to your ridiculous statement about “Elementalist are not killing anything in wvwvw. Period.” and I still stand behind my reply now. Unless Dap comes forward and tell me that even he is finding it hard to kill anything will I believe your statement about Elem not killing anything.

Until then, I will continue to believe Elem is – though a bit harder to play now – still as viable and playable as before.

BlackBeard.2873:

showatt.9413:

I’m sorry but unless you’re Daphoenix I’m not gonna take your statement seriously. It’s nothing personal. If you can link me a post where Dap complains about not being able to kill people in wvw and post a video of him failing I’ll gladly reconsider my position.

That is just silly! At the point that Daphoenix can’t people 2v1 or 3v1 in WvW, the class in underpowered. He is probably one of the BEST elementalist players. The whole class shouldn’t be absolutely unplayable if you aren’t super-pro. Every class has players that can do what daphonenix can do against bad players. It doesn’t mean every class is OP, it just means they are good players.

So are you saying it’s a learn to play / learn to adopt issue? Because I didn’t actually want to go there…

Also, I hardly think ‘absolutely unplayable’ is something that should be tossed around so easily. Challenging? Yes. Harder to master? maybe. But absolutely unplayable? Because of a few nerf here and there?

Thieves stealth and HS got nerfed to dust ages ago and people still spam them to this day. Yet they were crying about their class being unplayable after their nerfs too. So really, what is going on here?

Kaleban.9834:

showatt.9413:

The class is still OP, so more nerf is required to tune it down further.

Just. Stop. The. Bologna.

Let me know at what point in time in the last three months a D/D Ele in full bunker spec was destroying in WvWvW and raking in loot bags. Oh that’s right, NEVER. Any full bunker D/D was not killing anybody, just delaying and harassing targets. A perfectly viable tactic.

I’m sorry but unless you’re Daphoenix I’m not gonna take your statement seriously. It’s nothing personal. If you can link me a post where Dap complains about not being able to kill people in wvw and post a video of him failing I’ll gladly reconsider my position.

Ljiona.9142:

Vargs.6234:

Anet’s balance team are extremely bad at their jobs. This becomes more and more apparent every single patch. Looking forward to seeing what bafflingly stupid change makes its way in next time. Maybe they’ll decide thieves are too good in pvp, and so will increase the damage thieves take from dungeon mobs by 50%.

I am completely baffled by why they insist thieves have to be the most powerful class. They do out of their way to make them more powerful while other classes get a 10 second reducing on a signet that they never will use.

Lol Calling thief the most powerful class is so 2012.
For the past 3 month Elem has been dominating and I really don’t understand how you could’ve missed that.

They nerfed thieves ages ago when people complain about them; they’re now doing the same to Elementalist. Really I feel like some of the elem on this forum is still stuck in a time-capsule or something.

Real Elem plays bunker elem.
It’s just the way it is, and how it’s always gonna be.
True story.

Arcane shield still needs to be looked at.
Now that mist form is not broken anymore, Arcane shield is as overpowered as it ever was. (But now people are actually gonna be using it instead of Mist form.)

The class is still OP, so more nerf is required to tune it down further.
ArenaNet’s really bad at balancing imo; they could have just nerfed everything in one go but no they gotta do it step by step like some toddler learning to walk. Really disappointed.

Kaos.9162:

My favorite theory is that they’re gradually going to nerf everything down to the same level of suck.

which will take them probably a few years to do since elementalist is so blatantly overpowered atm and they still got mesmer on the list.

Until then enjoy ur D/D.

I used to think warriors are the biggest crybabies around.

I was wrong.

Well if someone has made a thread asking not to nerf their class, clearly that class needs to be nerfed.

Juan Ignacio.8903:

You people that defend anet are completely blind you been playing this game for 7 months and what did u get? 2maps new maps, meaningless nerfs a bunch of bug fixes and thats it.

People need to understand that if a game has a good combat system doesnt make it the best game ever.

And if they anet tells u that they have the cure for cancer but they cant show it would u believe them? lol

Bro I play Swtor for a year and I get 1 new pvp map out of that game.
They didn’t even release any more content other than a item mall full of hick items and some class tweaks that could’ve been done in less than a week.

In fact they even removed content because it was broken from the start.

It’s amazing how you can ignore every little patch they released about other part of the game and treat spvp like it’s everything a game needs to survive.

I understand this is spvp forum and everything but still, it’s amazing.

Kwll.1468:

Actually its pretty immature to continue making excuses for A-net. See as an adult person I hold myself and other people accountable. That’s how the real world works. Sure I give people some slack initially but this game has been out for 7 months and they sold millions of copies they should have the resources to get things done faster. Just because they invite you to state of the games and sound like nice guys that really doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of things. I’d rather they treat me with contempt but actually deliver what they have promised. The sad thing is this game has already jumped the shark no matter what they do. They might be able to improve the population somewhat but they’ll never been able to get it back to what is was at release. You’ll see. Eventually you will have to come out of cloud cukoo land and take off the rose colored glasses.

And you think you are an adult. Do you even know how much game development cost these days? Every game developers minimum salary is around 65k a year. That’s minimum. There are also artist and programmers who get paid more, and they’ve been making this game for 6 years.

Then you have to pay for marketing, trailers (which cost almost as much as a feature film to make) and all the other misc charges at launch.

You have to pay money to maintain the server. You have pay for office maintenance. You have to pay for custom support, which is around 100~ 200 reps that deals with a player base of say, around 400k. (being modest here)

They have delivered what they promised month ago. I no longer play the game as much as I did but i could seriously say the 70 bucks I paid was well worth the money. In fact, I’m amazed by the fact how Anet can release content every month when its not even P2P like WoW.

Hop over to swtor forum and you will see what a game that has jumped the shark actually looks like. No dev ever replies on forum. No content whatsoever 9 month after launch.

Davinci.8027:

The amount of sarcasm in this thread is exceeding expectations.
Nerds can only express themselves via sarcasm because deep down they don’t feel as though their opinions really have any validation.
MISSTALK, WRONG CHAT

And the troll of the month goes to…

This guy.

Sprawl.3891:

whining about whining, lolz

if Anet really cared about spvp they would invest more people/time/effort to it, it’s blatantly obvious to any non-fanboi that sPvP is the 3rd tier compared to PvE and WvW based on dev support and straight up player population.

But hey, keep dreaming QT. You sound just like every other fanboi trying to keep the peace as their ship goes down in flames. I could copy paste a similar post from pretty much every past failure from Warhammer to AOC to SWTOR. “dont be mean to the devs, give them time, it will get better” lol no.

Can you blame them though? They have hundreds of thousands of people enjoying PvE and WvW vs a few thousand who take spvp seriously. Why should they bother? Spvpers don’t spend money.

Your post is so contradictory it’s amazing how you managed to make it sound coherent.

Firstly, you said the “ship is going down in flame” and “I can copypasta a similar post from every past failure like AOC and Swtor”, which would mean you think the game is failure like swtor and AoC. (again it’s actually debatable whether these games are failures or not. They still have a loyal fanbase, and its not rational to not take them into account.)

But n your conclusion, you then said “they have hundreds of thousands of people enjoying PVE and WVW.”

Hurrr

Bro, if they have “hundred of thousand” of people enjoying PVE and PVP, then the game is a failure because? What? Because you – and a handful of others – “think” sPVP is dying?

Please help me understand your logic I really want to know.

DevilsGlare.7658:

Sprawl.3891:

whining about whining, lolz

if Anet really cared about spvp they would invest more people/time/effort to it, it’s blatantly obvious to any non-fanboi that sPvP is the 3rd tier compared to PvE and WvW based on dev support and straight up player population.

But hey, keep dreaming QT. You sound just like every other fanboi trying to keep the peace as their ship goes down in flames. I could copy paste a similar post from pretty much every past failure from Warhammer to AOC to SWTOR. “dont be mean to the devs, give them time, it will get better” lol no.

Can you blame them though? They have hundreds of thousands of people enjoying PvE and WvW vs a few thousand who take spvp seriously. Why should they bother? Spvpers don’t spend money.

Lol “fanboi”
I’m just being realistic. I left this game and played multiple others that are currently out right now, and like I previously said, the grass isn’t always greener on the other side. Continue being a cynic Sprawl, I’m sure the devs love creating new content for people such as yourself. My entire post summed up is about turning the community into a give/take relationship, instead of simply take. If you’re too simple to understand that, then debating anything with you would be a moot point as well.

Trust me, the moment you stop caring about those people – which is pretty much what Arena ought to do, and appears to be doing – the happier you are when playing the game.

Whiners tend to make it a habit to say what they think is happening with total disregard to what is actually happening. They say spvp is going downhill, but when I play hotjoin my que time doesn’t take more than 5 minute per match. They say tvt is dead, but many great pvpers are still committed to Gw2, and new ones are coming.

Hell there are even people who say the game is dying, even though ArenaNet is releasing new patches every other week. The guys at Swtor will jump for joy if they get a patch every 6 month. It a call for a celebration if a BW Dev show up in their forum every once in a year. Here, people whine when they don’t see a dev reply every day.

Modern Game developers are like a single mom raising a bunch of spoiled brats. They give and give and expect little in return – in big companies like Blur, they don’t even get paid for overtime – and they still get the cold shoulders from the few self entitled consumer who think the 70 bucks they paid entitle them to demand even more content than what they’re releasing, six month after the payment.

Some even had the gut to call other people ‘fanbois’.
You know what they say about haters.

Hater’s gonna hate.

Oh boy here it comes.
Been waiting for this for a while.
The most delicious tears in GW2 – JQQ tears.

I’m sorry but can someone explain to me again:

What’s the difference between server vs server and battleground if not for the size of the zerg?

In spvp you capture objectives, hold it for as long as you can til reinforcement arrives

In wpvp you capture keeps and towers, hold it for as long as you can til reinforcement arrives

The only difference is the size of the zerg.

So really, when you signed up for wpvp, you’re actually getting what you signed up for – a zerg fest where people zerg left and right and whoever has the bigger zerg pretty much wins. (unless they’re terrabad.)

Discouraging zerg would be like discouraging the entire point of wpvp, and I really don’t think Anet is and should be going down that path.

SmokeyNYY.7841:

GekoHayate.2451:

Jahn.7019:

WRod.3856:

You quaggens took that post serious tho, and that the funny part.

EMP is officially the IKEA of JQ.

EMP is a multi-billion dollar international company that has stores in over 38 countries?

Man what an insult. I would hate to be them.

Pretty sure he was alluding to EMP being quantity over quality similar to IKEA.

In case you haven’t figured it out after six month of wvw, in gw2, quantity is EVERYTHING.

Weapon choice: 1h sword, focus (or shield) / greatsword (either air /fire or nullification rune)
Armor choice : Dinivity Rune
Amulet choice : Knight amulet with soldier jewel

Zeal -Spirit weapon Mastery, Eternal Spirit

Radiance – Signet Mastery, a fire inside, Right hand strength

Virtue – Improved Spirit Weapon Duration, Absolute Resolution

Pros: Better spirit weapons

Your spirit weapons provide extra burns, last longer and though they can be destroyed, they come back faster

Pros: quick burst + invincibility

I’m still trying to get better than this, but if you managed to knock down someone, use whirling wraith immediately followed by zealot defense. With the correct set up you will have around 50 crit chance so if your hammer KD crits you get around 3 ~3.5k dmg + 3 ~ 3.5k whirling + 3k~ 3.5k zealots + around 1.5k burning. Pop the defense ability on bubble on shield, use resolve to get rid of 3 condition, use renew focus to stay alive and use another resolve to cure another 3 condition (renewed).
Still experimenting between another weapon or stun breaker. surprisingly i find having 2 weapons is actually better because people get distracted and waste their stun trying to kill that extra weapon.

Pro: Signet recharge

Signet cures 1 condition on auto. coupled with condition transfrom + resolve and maybe nullification on sword, which has extra crit chance, you’re harder to kill using condition.

Con: Spirit weapon no longer immortal

Before the update this build is pretty much invincible in 1 vs 1, now i get into trouble when coming up agaisnt talented players. Also, cc and stun may give you some trouble, but i’m sure you can tweak everything to overcome them. (replace second weapon with a stunbreak for instance and use gs to leap away when someone is trying to 100b you.)

I can’t believe there are any reason other than daphenoix.

Honestly when a dude/girl post a bunch of video about himself/herself playing a certain class, goes on a murdererous rampage and decimate an entire platoon of people without dying, that class is going to become fotm for as long as they don’t nerf it to kansas.

Well it still works but it’s not as overpowering as before.

With spirit weapon becoming breakable the key is no longer how long they can last but rather the effect they provide. Hammer of justice is still best for ccing as it KB when not commanded and KD when you do.

I’m still a spirit guard myself and if you spec burning to all your weapon and use focus + 100% burn with blocks trait, pop the fifth skill, summon your weapons and you can literally burn people to death.

It works fantastic for solo play because its’ all about solo kills. For torny? You’re gonna be wanting to hold a point longer so Spirit weapons aren’r so much use anymore.

Mosharn.8357:

showatt.9413:

lol sorry to burst your bubble but drama has always been a big part of pvp community of any mmorpg. Gw2 is actually a relatively tame game for pvp.

it used to be peaceful before lol and its only been 5 months and its like a war out there.

Isn’t it more fun that way XD? i think so qq~

lol this topic is full of warrior hypocrisy.
Warrior needs more option than 100bs? Sorry but if all warrior weapon/ trait are buffed to have the same effectiveness as 100b, it’d be the most overpowered class ever graced a MMO.

You have 1 skill combo that allow you to haste/stun/instant kill pretty much every class in existence from the raw damage alone, not to mention that it BLEEDS. Granted it is an easy to counter skill when 1 vs 1, most matches aren’t about 1 vs 1. Catching a player with his stun break off and 100b is equal to instant win.

Face the truth warriors, you want more option not because 100b isn’t effective, but because you got bored of blasting people using the same cookie cutter build as every other warriors.

Which is perfectly understandable.
But when someone propose a buff to every other weapon traits and a nerf to 100b , everyone loses their mind. Hilarious. All warriors want a buff to their other traits, because they’re so tired of 100b, yet all warriors are not willing to part with 100b because it’s so….. weak? lol.

How cute

lol sorry to burst your bubble but drama has always been a big part of pvp community of any mmorpg. Gw2 is actually a relatively tame game for pvp.