Thats will show significant improvments in many games. And even in GW2, BUT if ur orignal GPU is somthign as old and low end as a 5450, i worry that ur CPU is equaly as old/low end. GW2 takes ALOT more from the CPP than it does GPU.
Thats not to say u shouldnt upgrade ur GPU ..u deffinatly should, the 5450 is doing u no favors..BUT if ur CPu is equal underpowered u should know that the 660 will be held back to the limits of what ur CPU can handle.
^ This
Post your full system specs and we can determine from there
I see you are in Lions Arch, move to an isolated area such as Phinney and try setting to Best Appearance.
Don’t mistake what I said specifically about the FSP Aurum unit the other guy has, many brands have good models when it comes to PSU’s, it’s just that there are also bad ones. FSP make some decent units.
2 issues with your setup that I can see right off:
1, Your cpu is rather weak; and 2, you are playing at 1360×768, a resolution that would be putting stress on your cpu instead of mostly on the vid card.
What monitor do you have? I would think the native res of the monitor would be much higher than what you are playing at. If so, bump it up to 1600×900 or 1680×1050 and try playing.
I didn’t play this game for 2 months . Back then , my FPS usually is around 30-40 in town or train lvl, 20-30 in PvP; some Medium some High native sample , res 1360*768. However , when i logged in today , my FPS is 6-10 in Town with the lowest setting – lowest resolution either , i can’t even move, that’s terrible. I really disappointed in the tech team.
What hardware are you running?
Just list it when you can, each motherboard can act differently with slight adjustments.
If using an ASUS board your UEFI should look similar to this,
http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/1541/20121216111232.jpg
Right so it’s good to assume everyone knows how to OC their processor yeah mhmm — I’d happily pay the extra 10-20 dollars to have my processor overclocked by 1 GHz or a little more because I’m quite inexperienced with it. Sure you can google it, but why not just have it arrive already done? I’d go for it personally. I mean, sure not everyone will because they can do it themselves but some people don’t want to mess with that sort of thing.
You completely skimmed over what I said. Re-read, having it come overclocked already, much less a 1GHz overclock, will come with voltage adjustments be it on 1 or more values for CPU/RAM, if something were to HAPPEN as far as constant crashes, slowdowns, shutdowns, anything. What you just mentioned justifies what I already said, if you don’t know anything about overclocking and are too lazy to read up, YOU will be the one going through hassle of RMA’ing an entire desktop (of course if it came to it) due to an issue you could have prevented.
Again I will say, why go through that hassle?
Also, what happens if you keep the pc for over a year and the voltage the company set it to forced your processor to degrade through the next year, and it meant simply upping the vcore a little to compensate for the company essentially screwing you? You would be lost yet again and possibly think you need new parts. There’s just so many factors that can be prevented, which is what I’ve been getting at.
As a tip, it’s best to overclock yourself so you know the values and if something goes wrong, you understand how to easily adjust.
Places like that sell “OC” services for people who can’t take 1minute of their time to do it themselves and want to pay the extra $20+ for literally nothing.
Seeing that you have a 780 I really wouldn’t worry about lag in GW2. I haven’t seen any lag on the 780 HoF I have.
well i did like their oc on the 920 as i didnt know how to do long time ago. thos time waz me who asked for the oc, they charge nothing, i dont feel comfortable on gbis nrw platform and i rather leave it for the pro.
about losing values…. they use to leave it saved on the bios so…
It’s not about BIOS settings being saved. What I’m saying is if you get your pc (I’m guessing from ibuypower, cyberpower or another similar company), and it starts crashing randomly, what are YOU going to do? More than likely call the company because you don’t know what’s wrong…. Whereas it could be from a simple voltage configuration that you didn’t feel like reading up on so now you have to go through a hassle with tech support, then possible RMA of the entire system.
Way too much hassle whereas if you learned about overclocking (which is actually quite simple), you could troubleshoot issues for yourself and be ready to go whenever something may appear. If you have whatever company it is oc it for you, I would highly recommend reading up on overclocking of Haswell.
As a tip, it’s best to overclock yourself so you know the values and if something goes wrong, you understand how to easily adjust.
Places like that sell “OC” services for people who can’t take 1minute of their time to do it themselves and want to pay the extra $20+ for literally nothing.
Seeing that you have a 780 I really wouldn’t worry about lag in GW2. I haven’t seen any lag on the 780 HoF I have.
@ 4.5 I would say you will not be limited by the cpu for anything, that’s for sure (Outside of multithreaded uses wherein 6cores/12threads would be of use)
What vid card do you have coming with your prebuilt?
my pc i just bought has a Evga Supernova Nex650G 80+ Gold, i heard it is very good.
Seasonic and Corsair aint the only good ones
As I said there were other good units out there, but reading NewEgg reviews or so certainly is not a good way to determine if a unit is actually good.
For example, I’m not THAT familiar with the 650 watt, but considering they came out as the same line and are based on the same units, your FSP Aurum based EVGA unit’s 750watt brother has loose voltage regulation on all rails except for the 5V rail, poor crossload, and the 3.3V rail fails in advanced transient response.
As far as other things go though, your unit will deliver full power @ 45C, it has good ripple suppression at +12V, 5V and 5VSB, uses Japanese capacitors and excellent voltage regulation at 5V, then of course the 5Year EVGA warranty(Free upgrade to 10year warranty via EVGA website).
Which overall makes it a decent unit, especially using only Japanese caps. However, with the poor voltage regulation on the 12V and other issues it has, I wouldn’t be looking at it as a quality unit I could recommend, when there are better options available that do not have those issues.
It’s not about someone telling you something is good, it’s about research put into what you want to make sure it’s quality before purchase. That’s why enthusiasts buy their parts seperately and don’t purchase prebuilts.
His budget CPU is the main thing holding him back it seems outside of the extreme budget board. If you want pure performance, don’t limit yourself with a budget so low. Much less since nothing high end being used in his setup.
People complaining about low fps in the 30’s when it comes to full zerg v zerg in WVW and such need to stop the whining already, yes, with that amount of stuff going on on your screen, there’s a reason the fps drops. Same reason it drops in towns full of people.
People are going to get low teens in a full on WvW Zerg on High end gear. Its just how this game rolls.
the FX6100 is budget, but its still a decent CPU for what it is. But the tools I told him to run will explain to him what exactly is going on with his system when those FPS drops.
What I was getting at was he is blaming the game for having FPS issues when he is running a budget setup. Nothing is wrong with a budget setup….. But, don’t expect it to run like a high-end setup. FPS drops in WvW scenarios in GW2 is no different than anything similar in any other MMO.
Well of course Load Line Calibration would reduce vdroop, that’s what it is there for, but… My question to you would really have to be, what were you concerned with? Unless your system was crashing due to an unstable overclock due to voltage (vdroop in particular), it shouldn’t be an issue as vdroop is normal when a cpu is under load. And I’m fairly certain it wouldn’t be giving you lag issues. (Be SURE you have ALL your drivers needed for that mobo installed and the ones already installed updated to the latest)
Every bios is different as far as UEFI and BIOS goes, but if you could either give a link to your exact motherboard or list the brand and model# of the motherboard, I would certainly try to help you with it. Also, list your power supply brand and model # along with the amount of RAM you are currently running. Not to forget what OS you run as well.
His budget CPU is the main thing holding him back it seems outside of the extreme budget board. If you want pure performance, don’t limit yourself with a budget so low. Much less since nothing high end being used in his setup.
People complaining about low fps in the 30’s when it comes to full zerg v zerg in WVW and such need to stop the whining already, yes, with that amount of stuff going on on your screen, there’s a reason the fps drops. Same reason it drops in towns full of people.
I agree with the rest, stay with the 1155 Socket, and upgrade to a 3rd Gen i5 (K-Series would be better if you wanna OC).
If you want to upgrade the entire system, then I HIGH suggest a i5-4670K(Socket 1150-Haswell), and a HD7790. As that is what I currently run and couldn’t be happier.
He already listed looking at a 7970, downgrading to a budget card like the 7790 wouldn’t be worth his time with what he has his sights on.
Don’t jump on the bandwagon of people who don’t know what they are talking about. I have also not experienced lag anytime in the past month, so if you are, I would check everything with your local ISP to make sure your own line is running up to par.
Btw, 0% packet loss from that Level3 server that everyone wants to jump up and blame. If you are in Europe and on the NA server, why aren’t you playing on a local server instead of connecting to one across the ocean o.O Don’t blame a server that is working absolutely fine in Dallas.
You only need a “better” PSU if you were using a crappy one to begin with. I HIGHLY recommend Seasonic or Corsair, Corsair offering units from Seasonic OEM, CWT, and now Flextronics. There are other good units out there obviously, but most people are under the impression “good” means “I need more wattage”, which is 100% false.
For PSUs I highly recommend reading over at JonnyGuru.com. They perform in-depth testing on several power supplies so you can check their quality over there.
I too would agree that Intel would be a better choice assuming your budget. You can pick up a used i7-2600k for $160+ or a used i5-2500k for as low as $130.
As far as your original post with the 8350, it looks fine so long as you don’t plan to overclock any. That motherboard will not handle overclocking.
You should be fine with your first choice. If the 8850M can handle Battlefield 3 and Splinter Cell Blacklist, you should be more than fine with Guild Wars 2.
Just a fair warning OP, a first-gen i7 is a work horse; it runs very hot and you’ll probably need some sort of cooling solution to keep things manageable.
I guess it’s a good thing he didn’t post a first-gen i7 then…
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Ok, geez, any MMO you play where you play in a largely populated area will drop your FPS by a large margin. GTX 680 Lightning with a modest OC under water drops fps when in Lions Arch, it’s nothing though that causes visual lag, just the large drop in fps. The move to GTX Titan, same story, then the move to a GTX 780 HoF offered again, the same exact story just to a lesser extent. This is just a WELL known issue with MMO’s, anywhere from Defiance, Rift, Tera, and so on.
I have a reasonable set up, brand new FX-8320 3.5ghz and a gtx 660 3gb ….for no apparent reason i get V-droop majorly bad in this game and really poor fps majority of the time. there is most likely nothing wrong with his system i have had specialists look at my pc and found it to be in perfect working order ! the game is poorly optimized right now… like really poorly optimized every other game works a treat !
You…. blame v-droop? Due to a game…… facepalm
I’ll fix the issue that specialists supposedly couldn’t solve for you, since you don’t understand what vdroop is, nor have you seen it for that matter since you blame a game for it.
Vdroop is motherboard related in relation to the BIOS settings to keep a voltage supplied to the CPU. The simple fix I have for you to solve vdroop issue? Enable LLC and set it to 50% or 75%. Having said that, vdroop isn’t an issue unless you are overclocking…. So now that I solved your issue with vdroop that I doubt you even have, any other questions for the amazing sobe?
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