Degradation is a good concern, but only really if you are pushing voltage past a certain point, otherwise you are looking at a long lasting card without issue.
And since I doubt OP will be using an MSI Lightning, Galaxy HoF, or EVGA Classified under Liquid Nitrogen or Liquid Helium, I don’t see much of a threat of degradation
Also, I don’t recommend buying a factory overclocked graphics card (OC).
Vid cards are almost the same silicon lottery as cpus, except manufacturers do more binning for the better chips on the better cards (HoF, Classified, Lightning being the top 3), then the rest of the chips from wafers is somewhat of a toss-up. EVGA would be a good example as their Classified cards are binned for speed + overclock as I stated above, but their SC/SSC/FTW cards are binned only to make sure they run at the required speeds. Then you have the reference cards which are a crapshoot and not binned.
Now that we know some chips are binned for certain cards, there is always a possibility of an unstable chip, regardless if it met the specifications for speed on that card in their factory, the instability is not noticed until the consumer has the card running real-world apps. Outside of that though, depending on price it tends to be better to get a slight overclock if possible through a certain binning process. Or go for the best binned chips provided (I mentioned the 3 primaries in the first paragraph).
That’s difficult to answer, as there are both nvidia and amd titles that perform better on the competitor’s cards. As far as what the future holds, imo at least I think ports from console to pc will be overall more refined with amd helming the console market. As far as anything else, we will just have to wait and see.
Otherwise I could recommend the Phanteks Enthoo Primo, quite an amazing case, but if you aren’t water cooling there are better choices out there for $250~ for just air cooling…… Of course also the amazing MountainMods cases that can range up to $800, great great cases for watercooling and DIY.
Chyanne, to put it simply, forget about Hyperthreading or “HyperTransport” for a second. Pretend neither exists, look at the raw single threaded performance, Intel nearly doubles AMD’s performance.
This does not mean that they are bad CPUs, almost any CPU you can get today is going to be fairly powerful, some are just better for their price than others. How good of a choice a CPU is really depends on your needs and the applications you intend to run. So if you are just for example, like me and run a test bench for peak performance numbers for review products, or for my main rig with gaming, encoding, CAD work, Folding@Home, etc. The Intel is the obvious choice as it reduces the amount of time to perform certain tasks.
(Or in the case of this game, better framerates)
If a game is GPU bound, like Metro/Crysis, then CPU brand won’t make a difference. However once it’s not, then Intel pulls ahead a lot more often than not. If a problem can’t easy be split into a bunch of equal sized parts then throwing cores isn’t going to cause it to scale linearly to cores available.
There may be many minor things that the main code could split off and check back when it’s done, that doesn’t automatically means significant performance improvements if the main code simply ends up waiting for the other thread to get done before proceeding or those other threads don’t take long to do their work. And if threads are fighting for the same resource like the hard drive, you aren’t going to get much scaling at all.
Sadly most SMP benchmarks are with apps designed to scale well. I think this causes some misconceptions about how powerful the CPU is with normal apps. That’s why you don’t see a huge disparity between PCMark scores compared with a SMP task like CineBench.
So thats 1.67x with PCMark and 4.6x with CineBench. So guess which end of the spectrum games fall? While the ramp from 2 to 4 cores is evident in games it’s nowhere near 4x we see in SMP apps and much closer to 2x if that. So while you can go look at passmark and say “I have a powerful CPU see it roar”, in a lot of apps that potential simply isn’t being used and is difficult for an average single app to use. Running multiple active apps, great way to use all that power, single apps, not so much.
This is very well worded ^
In short if all you do is play games and don’t run apps that make use of your cpu, an 8350 will perform just as well as a 4770k
His post made an assumption that AMD was better at the end, sadly it is not the case. I personally wish AMD were more vested in the cpu space as it would put more pressure on Intel for pricing and performance.
In the case of OP a new FX AMD cpu would be a sidegrade instead of an upgrade. AMD is budget, nothing wrong with them at all, but its one of those you pay more for better type of things.
The 280x is just a rebranded 7970, and as far as the 290x, it does well enough in tests. But if you wait til the November release of the GTX 780 Ti, we could see possible price drops closer to $500 as NVIDIA is aiming at the 290×.
The 290x spits out performance in between both the 780 and Titan, so for the price you pay that’s pretty kitten good if you want to go with that, but your i7 920 will be a bottleneck. If you have a D0 stepping, try to push it to 4.5GHz if you have the proper cooling, short of a new cpu overclocking further will help reduce a bottleneck.
With all that being said, the 7850 is more than enough for GW2
You are making assumptions that AMD is as good or better, truth is, AMD cpus have always been the budget choice. Intel obliterates AMD procs in single thread useage, hyperthreading has nothing to do with that. On top of that if you wanted to upgrade, an FX 8350 would be a side grade, so your only logical upgrade would be to an i5 or i7.
In the days of Duron and AthlonXP AMD was good to go with as they went head to head with the Pentium4, but after dual cores started making the scene Intel stepped ahead and AMD essentially fell behind. The last good AMD imo were the Socket939 Opterons, after that they went downhill compared to Intel offerings.
Someone got it for me, have you seen the price on that thing? For that price you have a top end desktop… Don’t get me wrong, it’s nice and all for all my games, but….. Not something I could ever actually purchase. Much less with the battery life it has compared to the G74 :/
I dunno, after I got the G74 a long while back I kinda told myself I would never purchase another “gaming” laptop again. The portability just isn’t there IMO. Unless you were using it as a direct desktop replacement and don’t want to have a desktop + laptop, then sure I can see the use, but my desktop is more than enough for the things I do.
So long as you have other uses for it than just games, that Lenovo is just fine. Otherwise I would look at an ASUS, Sager, or MSI.
Personally I have both an ASUS G74SX (i7 2630QM, 12GB DDR3, GTX560M) and ASUS G750JH (i7 4700, 24GB DDR3, GTX780M), but of the 2 I only purchased the G74SX myself, the G750 was a gift with a price tag I don’t think I’d ever pay for a laptop personally.
My next laptop purchase will more than likely not be an ASUS RoG, mainly due to the weight and lack of actual portability. Outside of that though, the performance is astounding, that’s the good I can say for them.
Never mind on the EU server then, I assumed they would allow it, but I suppose not. The EU game server is located in Frankfurt, Germany which is why I was curious.
Arky, what I meant was 120ms seems a bit on the high end when you should have no more than maybe 90 connecting across the states. If 120ms is your average ping to games, you may have other issues that need to be addressed.
Obviously there are some things going on with the game and certain peoples’ setups, but at the same time 120ms is not a good local average, that number should be cut in half.
Btw, when you are checking the latency, are you checking the GAME server or are you looking at the LOGIN server latency? For instance, my game server latency to Jade Quarry is jumping between 47 – 60. You can type /ip ingame and check it against the Remote Address you are checking.
That’s not any issue related to a game…. 3GB per month, that’s light use…
If you are using Verizon data currently for your 3GB plan and are in the states, I recommend you taking a look at Millenicom, they offer a 20GB 4G LTE plan. $70/month but it will net you up to 60Mbit down/ 25Mbit up and of course the 20GB monthly.
First and easiest thing to try, is to try to run the -repair switch. Make a new shortcut to the game then right click on it > Properties > add " -repair" to the Target: line, adding to what’s already there so it looks like this:
Target: “C:\Guild Wars 2\Gw2.exe” -repair
Run the shortcut and let it complete the repair process.
Recently I’ve been noticing climbing latency, with it now peaking out at about 380ms. I live reasonably close to Anet, and no other application is reporting above 120ms latency. I’d like to point out, that this time last year I was in Europe playing GW2, and was experiencing about 150ms. Seems like something is slipping or going on.
Could someone please let me know what this is, or when a fix is coming? It’s really affecting some of our runs where we cut things to the wire.
Thanks.
What server provider do you have? What is your location in the states? 120ms is a bit high if you live in the states and have apps reporting that, so what are your downstream and upstream speeds?
Ok, so lets’ just start from the top. You have the 7850 currently installed in the pc now?
Install GPU-Z and check the Temp under the Sensors tab while you are playing. This way we can be sure what it actually is. Also, what case do you have? Do you have an aftermarket HSF on the 7850? What is your average ambient temperature in the room you have your computer in?
What cpu do you have? Is it overclocked? Do you have an aftermarket HSF for the cpu?
The reason you are being asked for your specs is not whether your pc is capable or modern, but to be able to understand your personal issue and what hardware you are running for that issue.
Next time you ask for help and someone asks for your computer specs, kitten just tell them, don’t act like a complete kitten .
One post from Anet about this? That’s all? Do they only have 3 people working for them or something?
Seriously, Anet customer service/tech support sucks.
Obviously I don’t see them posting at everyones’ whim, but it doesn’t stop them from attempting to help…. If you haven’t noticed, Ashley Segovia has been posting a bit on the Tech forum attempting to publicly help the players running into issues. At least she is trying in some way, shape, or form rather than not posting at all, so be happy they have someone monitoring the forums at least.
No matter the game, there will always be disgruntled players.
Both of you, do me a favor, check your modem’s upstream and downstream power please.
If I may, If it was an infrastructure problem, why didn’t it influence our experience prior to now?
I could not tell you that as we don’t know the actual cause. But I can tell you that this issue has been seen before on numerous games on other tech forums and some of the issues were fixed due to a poor signal link to the modem being identified.
I don’t want to give you false hope, I just want to eliminate any variables that we can.
When I ask for the signal power btw, I don’t mean your upstream or downstream speeds, but the actual signal’s power reception. (For example upstream could be -2 dbmv, and that shows a poor signal from your ISP that could be due to various things, from cracks in a trunk line, damaged amp, etc.)
Yea loosen your timings a little bit to what he posted for your trcd, trp, tras, and trc. May not make a difference, but possible RAM issues could always be abundantly fun.
For the hell of it after reseting your timings, click Start, type mdsched.exe in the Search box, and then press Enter. Choose to restart the computer and run the tool immediately. This will just get any memory errors out of the way so we know it’s not faulty RAM. Better to run through steps and say certain areas are good rather than glossing over them now and enduring further troubleshooting later.
I assumed since the tech talked about overheating he was referring to your cpu, but if it’s your gpu just use EVGA Precision or MSI Afterburner to monitor the GPU temps (or another program if you wish, such as GPU-Z, etc.), but I doubt your gpu is at fault here unless it is simply on it’s way out. You can test your GPU for artifacts or glitching by running Furmark gpu stress test.
Outside of that though, I would try upgrading or downgrading your vid card drivers just to try. If you have multiple monitors disconnect the others.
Power supplies reporting over 12.60v on the +12v is not out of the ordinary, normally it is simply the motherboard misreading it. If it shows 15, and if it were actually putting out 15v on the 12v, your hardware would be fubared, but I think it’s just a misreading on the motherboard’s side. Only way to get true reading would be with a multimeter.
(The new PSU may report the same)
Out of curiousity, if you have overclocked, have you tested running the game at stock settings?
Ah ok, that’s a pretty solid CWT unit with Samxon caps and a yateloon fan to keep it cooled. Although, honestly your 430 should be more than fine assuming it’s the CX430 as it is the same type of unit as the CX600 with samxon caps.
Assuming it is not dropping voltages on the 12v, 3v, or 5v rails I wouldn’t think it would be the PSU. What specs do you have?
This problem has happened with a lot of people in various games, one suggestion I have is to check your modem’s signal link for upstream and downstream power. You wouldn’t happen to be using Charter Cable would you?
Your power supply is too small for the GPU at least when you are playing the game it is demanding more power.
On what basis? The 600watt PSU that the OP has can not only power the cpu and vid card he has, but it is beyond overkill for that setup. To put into perspective, A 1,000watt QUALITY psu can power 3 GTX Titans alongside an overclocked i7 with no problem….
An example for a similar setup would be, from the wall a 7870 with an i5 3570k pulls 211 watts from the wall via a P3 Kill-A-Watt power meter. If you have no idea wtf you are talking about, please don’t post “advice” as it is merely your opinion based on nothing.
I dunno if there is no BSOD, I would be looking at that power supply, it says minimum rating 500 w, but requires more than 75watts, PSU might be at weak or may have an issue (minor).
Manufacturers list minimums for people with no knowledge of power supplies to stay in a ‘safe net’ type of zone. A quality 400watt is more than enough to power his system @ full load.
System crashes can go so far as being a monitor issue with certain games to as simple as being drivers at fault, be it BSoD code or not.
Your power supply is too small for the GPU at least when you are playing the game it is demanding more power.
On what basis? The 600watt PSU that the OP has can not only power the cpu and vid card he has, but it is beyond overkill for that setup. To put into perspective, A 1,000watt QUALITY psu can power 3 GTX Titans alongside an overclocked i7 with no problem….
An example for a similar setup would be, from the wall a 7870 with an i5 3570k pulls 211 watts from the wall via a P3 Kill-A-Watt power meter. If you have no idea wtf you are talking about, please don’t post “advice” as it is merely your opinion based on nothing.
That was definitely a decent trade then for that hardware. If you want to put it to use, feel free to have it running and put it to use Folding@Home to help with cures for diseases
I think you should have more Forum “Moderators” or “Support” personnel attempting to assist in issues people encounter in the Tech forum. I think that would show more respect to your current customer base to at least show you are attempting to help them resolve issues in a public forum. You can also document using a coded tiered checklist system(via the admincp here on the site) individual issues and if a solution is found keep that to make it easy for those Support/Moderators to copy and paste that info for those having that issue that was already documented and solved.
Just be glade you got, 2006-2013, 7 possible years out of that graphics card before being forced to upgrade it to something more current/modern.
QFT! Except the thing is he apparently got the hardware used from his friend, which I sure hope he didn’t spend over $150-$200 for.
Nothing is wrong with buying used, I highly recommend people look at their options, as for instance, CPUs are somewhat hard to kill. [H]ardForum is a good place with a good classifieds section, just be sure the people you deal with have a positive heatware history, along with if they will trade with you if you have no heat.
Overclocking can have it’s benefits, but it really depends what you are after, what cooling you have, is it worth it if you pumping extra volts into it?
(At a certain point of voltage it will slowly start to degrade the cpu over the course of next year/few years)
Overclocking is also a good way to get the most out of your cpu, but, I would not do it simply for fps gains, as the fps gained from overclocking I don’t see as being large enough to warrant it just for that.
Now, having said that, there’s always a chance of messing something up, but overclocking in general is rather safe, as far as cpu goes anyway. Go download CPU-Z and run it, screenshot it, upload it at imgur or tinypic and post the pic here for us.
*Thanks Solar for the sig xD I gave up on it a while back due to the limits :P *
Why don’t you just have her download the client, install, download, move GW2 folder onto thumb drive, then send to you? I use a 100Mbit down/100Mbit up connection myself, should take her no longer than about 30min to download the entire game.
Have to get rid of all variables
