Guild Wars 2

SpellOfIniquity.1780:

Has anyone done the Norn heart task in Wayfarer Hills where you’re turned in to a Snow Leopard? If so, you know how grossly stiff the combat feels. It’s like lifting your paw to swipe at a rabbit takes the same effort it would to tip a min-van. How about make the pets not so sluggish? I feel bad for their AI having to struggle to do any kind of attack. Being able to swipe, bite or shoot at an opponent while moving would be a massive improvement. Instead of having to first target their opponent, then follow them, then attack them, they can instead target and attack while chasing them.

That is how mob AI in this game works. That is what our pets are tied to. That is the code they’ll have to trash to rewrite the entire pet AI.

The overwhelming issue that has to be fixed is the class mechanic. It won’t be fixed until Anet Devs decide to devote the time to write its’ own code unshakling it from mob AI. The pets will never be viable and there is no band-aid that will fix it… How do I know? Lead Game Designer has said they’ve been band-aiding and look at the position it puts us in regardless of game mode: handicapped.

Y’all can flap your gums all you want but that is the foundation of this truth.

Regardless, I’ll throw my hat into the fray proposing an alternative to the pets as usual. No matter what they do anything that could be considered a “fix” is going to take a considerable amount of time and effort, perhaps the same or more than it would take to rewrite the entire pet AI code… I no longer cling to the hope that they’ll do the right thing and make me want to play my Ranger again.

Lastly, how long ago did the CDI threads start? Nothing has trickled into the real game. The only thing they have done is reversed decision on things they implemented. THey haven’t changed what was already there. I refuse to hope they’re going to do anything with this CDI six months from now.

Only Devs create the actual CDI topics. Everybody knows that which is why no one is jumping on these fake CDI threads.

If I want to do damage on my Ranger the GS is never a viable option. Period.

Sucks to be ignorant new guy who can’t read the oh so obvious LFG tool descriptions.

Nat.4029:

Don’t forget to add this to dungeons. “Ok, we’re gonna run past this. New guy in the group? Oh just leave him. Ok stand right behind this pillar so everything, including the boss is tunneled into this tiny spot. New guy still dying back there? Oh well…”

Sounds like new guy shouldn’t have joined that group.

silvermember.8941:

thefantasticg.3984:

silvermember.8941:

thefantasticg.3984:

silvermember.8941:

Anet cannot control human behavior, the only thing they can do is not reward zerging and they are not rewarding it any more. People are going to follow the commander because that is where people are more likely to be at, it sucks but as they say, “old habits die hard”.

Only habit of mine that’ll die is my interest in this game. I like the zerging. I’ve tried the new content but I’m better off just staying in QD or FG for the champ zerging.

silvermember.8941:

Also this is the first week, it took a while for people to get acclimated with the marrioniette it will take a while for it to finally sink in that the best way to do the event is not to zerg.?

Marrioniette is still a zerg. It was split into five zerging lanes. Hated it because bads made me fail the event because the OTHER pads were lost. GG. Not to mention rewards weren’t great by any stretch of the immagination.

Thanks for sharing, but I don’t really care what you like.

And thank you for sharing your complete lack of understanding on what zerging actually means.

Don’t worry, snowflake, the feeling is mutual… which of course what another post was about that players just don’t care about other players. And yeah, if you think zerging means more than just loots, then yeah, I can’t help you. No one refers to “organized” zerged because there is no such thing.

If the feeling as mutual you wouldn’t have taken the time to respond to a post not directed at you.

But whatever helps you sleep at night, slick.

Nah. I got time there, snowflake. Don’t mistake my boredom for caring.

I really miss the Jubilee zerg and the pre-aetherblade champ nerf scarlet invasion zerg

Enokitake.1742:

Lévis.5489:

The funniest thing is if you want to do anything in the city, you need to slip the zerg . And yet people just try to zerg everything.

Miroe.2054:

1. In “escape” you can search for survivors solo or in a small group
2. If your class is “boring” to solo, accept the zerg or reroll
3. I you want rewards, spread out, look for survivors and converge at events when they appear near you, then spread out again. The reward scales with the number of rescued citizens

How to “Escape from LA”:
1) Character Select: Guardian
2) Equip Staff. Follow the Zerg.
3) Spam 1 + heals + virtues + stability/aegs/regen shouts
4) Collect tons of loot. (138 Bags of Alliance Supplies last run + Full inventory normal drops)
5) Bring Mystic Salvage kit + black lion merchant + Storage Golem/Access Key.

No skill. All zerg. All reward.

Man, I ran that exact reciepe… I nailed over 250 bags in one hour + exotic drop + 5 rare drops. 300%+ magic find FTW. Not to mention that was my first and only run yet in there.

silvermember.8941:

thefantasticg.3984:

silvermember.8941:

Anet cannot control human behavior, the only thing they can do is not reward zerging and they are not rewarding it any more. People are going to follow the commander because that is where people are more likely to be at, it sucks but as they say, “old habits die hard”.

Only habit of mine that’ll die is my interest in this game. I like the zerging. I’ve tried the new content but I’m better off just staying in QD or FG for the champ zerging.

silvermember.8941:

Also this is the first week, it took a while for people to get acclimated with the marrioniette it will take a while for it to finally sink in that the best way to do the event is not to zerg.?

Marrioniette is still a zerg. It was split into five zerging lanes. Hated it because bads made me fail the event because the OTHER pads were lost. GG. Not to mention rewards weren’t great by any stretch of the immagination.

Thanks for sharing, but I don’t really care what you like.

And thank you for sharing your complete lack of understanding on what zerging actually means.

Don’t worry, snowflake, the feeling is mutual… which of course what another post was about that players just don’t care about other players. And yeah, if you think zerging means more than just loots, then yeah, I can’t help you. No one refers to “organized” zerged because there is no such thing.

silvermember.8941:

Anet cannot control human behavior, the only thing they can do is not reward zerging and they are not rewarding it any more. People are going to follow the commander because that is where people are more likely to be at, it sucks but as they say, “old habits die hard”.

Only habit of mine that’ll die is my interest in this game. I like the zerging. I’ve tried the new content but I’m better off just staying in QD or FG for the champ zerging.

silvermember.8941:

Also this is the first week, it took a while for people to get acclimated with the marrioniette it will take a while for it to finally sink in that the best way to do the event is not to zerg.?

Marrioniette is still a zerg. It was split into five zerging lanes. Hated it because bads made me fail the event because the OTHER pads were lost. GG. Not to mention rewards weren’t great by any stretch of the immagination.

Actually I use it quite frequently in pve for zergs. Helps new players to the map know where the zerg is in the champ trains. Saves a lot of repeated “Zerg?” “Wheres da zerg be?” type questions.

There’s a few out there, but not many.

I run super long and super short bows myself.

Passed my brony bow over to my thief where it actually sees use.

Check the Dev Tracker… It got pushed to next Monday @ 12:00 PST

Got postponed until next Monday 12pm PST. Check the Dev Tracker, it is in there.

Yeah… This should get sent out to the whole the active player base.

Since I’m not participating in the gear grinding treadmill that is ascended I’m amassing a large store of bloodstone and dragonite ingots just incase they decide to do something else with them… I don’t have anything else to spend my karma on at the moment anyway.

RoyalPredator.9163:

But you ALL really should stop farming. This only leads AN to make more expensive sinks that normal players can not reach within logical timeframe.

But you REALLY should not tell me how to play this game I paid to play. This only leads to making the game terrible as a whole when parentalism comes into play… which is what it is when you tell me how I should be doing something with no authority to do so.

What the OP is suggesting is not needed.

What is needed is the commander symbol hanging over my toon when I have my tag turned on. That is just effin silly and needs to be removed or given the option to toggle off.

I don’t use shouts on my Ranger or cantrips on my Ele. I use the one the few times I need stability on my Ele…. And I see no point whatsoever using any shout on the Ranger. I won’t and will never use shouts on my Ranger if they aren’t insta-cast. I like my ele weapons too much to give them up for cantrips.

And yes, people are always amazed how much faster I can take down the gate controller faster on my Ranger than they can on their warrior or any other class… but it’s only those precious 6 seconds or so I can put out that damage before I have to wait for RaO to come back from CD and do it again…. and that is if my melee pet is still alive from being in melee range with me.

Cygnus.6903:

Jackums.3496:

It will be a buff, yes.

To condition builds.

This^

You will be required to slot a damage sigil or rune to offset the loss in net DPS.

Because there will be a loss otherwise.

Thats what I was planning on doing to offset the DPS loss.

Basically it’s what a business person can use to get across an idea in a short concise manner without fluff a.k.a. powerpoint.

Personally, until the band-aided pet class defining mechanic situation gets worked out every other Ranger problem (including the rediculous idea of having casting times on shouts) can take a back seat.

xXxOrcaxXx.9328:

Swagg.9236:

Then we’re down to opinions.

I at least exclude the word “think” from my statements and have fundamental rules written out regarding how GW2 combat is optimized.

Ok. To put it simple, just for you:
I do want to play ArenaNet’s game. I do not want to play your game.

Despite the Ranger pet that line pretty much sums it up for me concerning Swagg’s suggestions.

Check this awesome example out:

Proposal Overview
Ranger pets as options.

Goal of Proposal
Fix the Ranger class mechanic by giving options.

Proposal Functionality
Given the current class mechanic is a band-aided handicap, almost anything will be improvement and only serve to better enhance the Ranger’s playstyle. Perma-stow pet and replace with buff to ranger in straight stats so that Ranger is putting out 100% of the intended damage.

Associated Risks
None. Unless you consider countless people who main Rangers extremely happy they don’t have to deal with a pet.

Post Word Count (Discussion Posts):
No discussion needed. People who don’t want pets don’t have to use them and aren’t handicapped for it. People who want to use pets still get to use them. Win-win.

Total Post Word Count: 103

Teulius.8752:

This is farming that is not worth it, speedruning dungeons with a good group, doing world events and just spamming frostgorge is far more profitable, this patch had dissapointed me so much. It’s the siege of LA and all i am doing is standing behind people autoattacking :/

Thats what I gathered from the time that my Wife has spent running it and the pitiful drops/coin that she amassed.

I can solve the Ranger problem with way less than a 150 words.

What I mean by fixed is made 100% optional

Chrispy.5641:

I gotta ask you Swagg. How many hours have you actually played the Ranger in Guild Wars 2?

I’m willing to put money on way less than 500…

Because with my over 1200 it is extremely clear to see that this is a completely different game profession he is trying to design.

He meant when it is created.

Soronthar.7236:

Could you please create a CDI thread for the ranger discussion, instead of continuing the discussion here? it is more convenient for those looking for it.

The Devs create the CDI threads.

Not mostly, it is completely from the mob AI as stated already in another CDI thread. It’s just be slightly modified.

I repeat: the Ranger will not get better until the pet situation is fixed.

Surely this topic is more dead than any horse has ever been beaten.

Report the post for being what it is: a trolling post.

Easily replacable but a ton of varying options which have been spelled out in the previous 10 pages. Feel free to take your time to read through those pages, Blackrose.1247…

Personally, I like the idea of preparations from GW1 Ranger.

So this is a PVP thread??? I’m assuming so by the OP since it was not labelled as such in the topic line.

Tis an opinion indeed because , IMO, I like the GS on my Guardian a lot more than I do on my Ranger.

Obvious troll is obvious.

1) Unless you Devs follow through with implementation of suggestions from the CDI there is no point to the CDI beyond a PR campaign.

2) Unless you replace the entire mod AI code for the pets, there is no other option than giving us the option to opt out of the pets for nothing altogether, passive buffs, or another class mechanic.

Ranger “evolution” cannot happen with a banded-aided class defining mechanic that is a handicap to the class. The ranger will not be any better off until those shakles have been removed. Period.

Wait, why should the pets get holy trinity roles if we can’t?

That’s what is going to happen… which is why I suggested renaming this thread…

I guess since I"m not on the ascended bandwagon this has no bearing on me whatsoever.. but nice post? I suppose.

Yeah, I’m bored.

IndigoSundown.5419:

thefantasticg.3984:

Nat.4029:

I find Divinity’s Reach much more accessible than LA. Two WPs are right beside each other and you can get to everything you need in that small radius. I’ve always used it.

And I care nothing about the Mystic Toilet. Kitten that stupid thing!

Ha. I, on the other hand, love the mystic toilet and its’ awesome ability to spit precursors at me like beads at mardi gras to a big set of DDDs hanging out for all the world to gaze upon for the cost of plastic pellets on a string.

Instead of AFK’ing and doing my thing in LA I’ll just use up a spot on my BL since it’s mostly empty most of the time anyway.

You heard it here first! The destruction of LA is another ploy to get players into WvW!

[/kidding aside]

Sure, it’ll get me in there but I won’t be participating in the WvW. I’ll just be taking up a spot on the map.

notabot.3497:

thefantasticg.3984:

If you really want to make money in this game you should be TP flipping. They can technically never nerf it and profits are possibly unlimited if you are smart and do your research and invest wisely… It also doesn’t take much to start either.

If I want to I could turn 100g into a 1000g within a month, easily, but it’s boring… so I go the slower way of FG and dungeons.

If you run dungeons you can earn 1000g in a month… 30 gold a day is doable even if you don’t run all the paths, AC 1&3 is 3 gold, SE 1&3 is 2 gold, CM 1&3 is 2 gold, TA F&U is 2 gold, COE all is 3 gold, HotW 1 is 1 gold, CoF 1&2 is 2 gold =15 gold. That is no hard to pug paths and only counting the bonus chest, not the drops, not the normal rewards, and not the stuff you can salvage from the dungeon tokens. Once you factor that its about 30+ gold a day. AC+SE should be about 1 hour, CM+TA is hour 2, COE is an hour 3, and COF+HotW is hour 4. Those times are assuming you are in normal capable pugs not a regular speed clear tour group. That includes the time to merch your trash and salvage your white-yellow drops and banking the mats.

Yeah, but I can not be logged in and still make money from TP flipping… Kinda hard to do with dungeons, isn’t …because filter thinks this is another word for poo… it?

The only thing that the Zodiac armor reveals is the ability of Designers to make the same crap armor that I don’t want over and over and over again…

How effin hard is it to design medium armors that don’t look like dresses? I mean, it must be the hardest thing to do after programming pet AI seperate from mob AI.

Hm. So that means the pass is client based and not server based then?

If you really want to make money in this game you should be TP flipping. They can technically never nerf it and profits are possibly unlimited if you are smart and do your research and invest wisely… It also doesn’t take much to start either.

If I want to I could turn 100g into a 1000g within a month, easily, but it’s boring… so I go the slower way of FG and dungeons.

Best option in the game is the ability to turn off the instruments played by other players. That ’ish would have made me quit going to any area where others might use those horrid gem store things.

Again, another medium armor set with a dress..

Gettin real tired of your medium dress based armors, Anet.

Nat.4029:

I find Divinity’s Reach much more accessible than LA. Two WPs are right beside each other and you can get to everything you need in that small radius. I’ve always used it.

And I care nothing about the Mystic Toilet. Kitten that stupid thing!

Ha. I, on the other hand, love the mystic toilet and its’ awesome ability to spit precursors at me like beads at mardi gras to a big set of DDDs hanging out for all the world to gaze upon for the cost of plastic pellets on a string.

Instead of AFK’ing and doing my thing in LA I’ll just use up a spot on my BL since it’s mostly empty most of the time anyway.

The thread that jcbroe has in the profession balance subforum really should just renamed to the CDI thread. It already has everything in it. There’s no real need for another thread when everyone is going to just C&P from that thread into the CDI thread. Cut to the chase and just rename jcbroe’s thread to the CDI thread.

Making shouts 100% instant-cast would be a start to making them OP I guess… which is why they have that delay on them but I don’t have it on my Warrior or Guard. Get that problem sorted 1st then we can talk about your idea in a real way.

As long as the pet is AI controlled the “pug community” will not like pets.

Doing it through shouts that are not instant? Dufaq are you smoking? How shouts areN’T instant cast is beyond me as it is…

I"m not holding my breath. There has been no implentation of anything from the 1st round CDIs so…. Yeah, no. I’ll continue to lose interest in GW2 as a whole because they refuse to give me the option to perma-stow-for-buff or something similar an admittedly band-aided class mechanic.

Besides, the riding weather is here in the South so just means my motorcycle will demand to be ridin more often!