Oddly, scores do matter in that the objective defines the game. Bluntly put, saying score doesn’t matter is simply saying “We are strong as a group but weak as a whole”. Score matters to your opponent and they are fighting that way. You are being denied fights that are equal simply because your opponent doesn’t share your objective.
It’s really odd, I respect a lot about Choo except that statement.
Focusing on score for SOR won’t lead anywhere. We’ll burn out if we just focused on the PPT. We simply do not have the constant coverage our opponents do, so we don’t stress on the points. We’re here to have fun and fight wherever we can.
Sure, we’ll take objectives and whatnot, it means we can keep fights coming but as it stands, PPT is a secondary goal for us until we can get more guilds to balance us out.
SoR still needs guilds to help out our SEA players. We’re holding on in WvW, but barely. A few more guilds will be a huge help.
Just to clarify, We are looking primarily for WvW based guilds. We’re pretty competitive as is currently, but would like to round out our coverage a bit more. We have some good guilds fighting in our off hours but they could use some help against the JQ juggernaut.
We’d like to remain competitive with the re-introduction of BG into Tier 1.
‘Grats JQ! Honestly, I’d still be impressed if this were SoR, SoS, or any other server. The point stands that a server in the top-most tier available in NA has by some combination of coordination and demoralization of the enemy servers acquired absolutely every possible PPT available. That, to me, is impressive, particularly because I have been there and fought every single one of the servers up in T1, and I know how absolutely terrifyingly effective their coverage and skill is. No matter how anyone wants to water this down, color me impressed.
Most of SoR was asleep -.-
Choo is waiting in JQ BL at this very moment. We’re looking for some friendly open field fights, bring it on!
What is the karma related items?
Gears, Spike fruit etc.
We had second thread started by Brew Lord of FEAR that got closed, so I am reposting his post here.
“Are you unhappy with your current ranking? Are you a Asian/ Euro guild without help? Do you wanna play with the best NA group around? Then SoR is your answer, currently we are in search of Asian and Euro guilds. We are looking for hardcore/casual Wv3 guilds to represent us and help our current guilds.
If interested please PM myself or Indo.8629 for further information… we understand paid transfers, so please do not hesitate to get a hold of us.” – Brew Lord
We could use any players who are willing to make the move really. Our Asian crew especially could use some support. Even if you aren’t from Asia, but play around 8 am EST on a regular basis, feel free to reach out.
Lords Of Krampus[LOK] looking for new and experienced players for SOR defensive guild. We believe that to progress at this point in WvW, we need a robust defensive strategy overhaul.
We are creating three squads:
1. Claws, need elite warriors and ninjas running in small groups to defend and take back our supply camps. These players need to be able to run supply to our keeps and stay alive from invaders.
Wall Templars: Siege masters that know strategic siege locations, can provide build sites, and man siege on our walls. These players need to like standing on a wall and defending at all times. We want our walls to be impenetrable!
Stone Masons: yes, these players need to be somewhat mystic and clairvoyant. We need commanders that can watch the map, direct our defensive strategies and inspire our guild to be a respectable defending guild, arming our impenetrable castles to the teeth.
Message me on here or in game if interested
Hey Greyalis,
good to hear someone is taking the initiative to form a defensive core. We could use it.
Best of luck man
This is going to be a cycle that repeats itself. Couple of months later SOR will be the victim of this cycle if they can’t break 3rd place.
We’ve come second for the past 2 weeks….
What would happen to scoring if NOBODY captured camps, towers, keeps, or SM? ALL week long. Nothing but hide and seek, open field battles, skirmishes and running about. Interesting to think about.
I’d support this. Sounds like a lot of fun.
Better yet. The entire map is one giant JP.
Jumping puzzles I can’t do. I suck horribly at them, but if we did a week of just slaughtering each other and not worry about points, or capping, I think it’d be pretty entertaining.
JP is the best way to get free siege!
Sure, doesn’t mean i don’t suck at them haha. I don’t have the patience for most. I usually just take advantage of any mesmer who is willing to port me.
Let’s say you have a guild of 5 people and 0 AoW unlocks today. Ignoring any influence gains from activities you need 73 gold to unlock all the tiers, or 14.6 gold per person.
I don’t mean to single you out Crimsony, many have illustrated this point.
But, to be fair, why not charge every player in the game 14.6g to access the new content?
Why tax the small guilds?
“Help! I’m being repressed!” lol
This is a serious question I have for these smaller guilds:
If you do not want to pay or play to earn the influence needed, what is stopping you from cooperating with larger guilds doing the content?
From the look of the content, people in the open world can also participate for a reward, though people in the guild starting the mission will earn guild specific rewards.
What is stopping people from making a friend in a larger guild so that they can ask when the missions are starting?
Or from asking in LA or map chat where the missions are starting?
Or from simply looking at the map (if I am understanding functionality) and letting your small guild know when an event is up?
You’d get the experience and a reward, just not the Guild Merits, is that correct?
That’s pretty much how it works. It’s been documented already anyone can join in on a guild mission. The only thing a small guild is actually missing out on is the ability to start some of the events. They can still join the events in the open world that another guild started, and get rewarded.
What would happen to scoring if NOBODY captured camps, towers, keeps, or SM? ALL week long. Nothing but hide and seek, open field battles, skirmishes and running about. Interesting to think about.
I’d support this. Sounds like a lot of fun.
Better yet. The entire map is one giant JP.
Jumping puzzles I can’t do. I suck horribly at them, but if we did a week of just slaughtering each other and not worry about points, or capping, I think it’d be pretty entertaining.
What would happen to scoring if NOBODY captured camps, towers, keeps, or SM? ALL week long. Nothing but hide and seek, open field battles, skirmishes and running about. Interesting to think about.
I’d support this. Sounds like a lot of fun.
It only says orange swords right? It doesn’t say anything about changing the white swords that appear over a contested objective. You will still know when objectives are under attack. Unless I am missing something.
White swords can be triggered by a single player.
T1, players using thieves tend to run by, hit the door and run off. It can be a good distraction, and will likely prove to be even more so with the update.
Some TC guys wanted us to kill some Choo. Let’s have some good fights.
I see we’ve gotten a hit on our heads. What’s the going rate?
I honestly thing a duck sized horse would be worse. That might be because i have a few birds, my kittenatiel probably only weighs a pound but hes vicious, you get a horse sized duck in there and i do not want to engage in old timey fisticuffs with that thing… my mustache isnt nearly large and curly enough.
What about a Horse Size goose? Specifically a Canadian Goose (aka loon).
Those things are scary at a normal size, can be pretty aggressive.
I thought a loon was a duck…
Sorry, I completely fail at being Canadian, its starting to show I’m from the city.
Canadian Geese are not loons haha.
I honestly thing a duck sized horse would be worse. That might be because i have a few birds, my kittenatiel probably only weighs a pound but hes vicious, you get a horse sized duck in there and i do not want to engage in old timey fisticuffs with that thing… my mustache isnt nearly large and curly enough.
What about a Horse Size goose? Specifically a Canadian Goose.
Those things are scary at a normal size, can be pretty aggressive.
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This is terrible. So many SoR score updates but none of them have bikini-clad ladies in them!? All I see is a big green pie!
Y’know, I’m not a fan of the yellow bikini. We need to be able to change the colours.
Yellow is just game breaking for me.
Every single one of those can easily be done in WvW….
Cap a tower? Bam, there’s one event done. How about taking a sentry? There’s another.
While moving between objectives, you can grab all your resources and take care of the gatherings, which on average give you 3 per node.
Dodge? I would assume you’re already doing this in WvW.
Veterans? Don’t camp guards, tower guards and whatnot all count as vets? Capturing a tower alone should probably fill that out pretty quickly.
O….hold on guys. I could rush to this tower to defend it but I need to stop to gather this mithril for my daily! Yeh….PvP at its finest…lol
The resources are still a vital part of WvW. Especially Mithril and Elderwood as they are required for superior siege. Something larger competitive guilds in T1 and T2 use plenty of, so its not a stretch to assume many players do infact mine these resources.
Sanctum of Rall can you guys please come up to Tier 1 already? Sea of Sorrows is being a bunch of baby quitters and Blackgate is well you know them. Jade Quarry is getting bored and your massive NA Primetime would be much appreciated.
How about we make it a date? Let’s say… around Friday around 7pm EST… we may be a little late.
Every single one of those can easily be done in WvW….
Cap a tower? Bam, there’s one event done. How about taking a sentry? There’s another.
While moving between objectives, you can grab all your resources and take care of the gatherings, which on average give you 3 per node.
Dodge? I would assume you’re already doing this in WvW.
Veterans? Don’t camp guards, tower guards and whatnot all count as vets? Capturing a tower alone should probably fill that out pretty quickly.
yes, my point exactly. there is nothing in it that requires me to even see an enemy player, let alone kill one. and there is … crafting. i can only conclude that i thought that the laurel gear was the w3 gear they talked about but i was wrong.
WvW is not pure PVP, and technically dodges will happen naturally when facing enemy players.
WvW was always a hybrid of PVE and PVP. Also the intention of this was solely for everyone who plays to get rewarded. This update isnt the WvW centric update coming in FEB.
Every single one of those can easily be done in WvW….
Cap a tower? Bam, there’s one event done. How about taking a sentry? There’s another.
While moving between objectives, you can grab all your resources and take care of the gatherings, which on average give you 3 per node.
Dodge? I would assume you’re already doing this in WvW.
Veterans? Don’t camp guards, tower guards and whatnot all count as vets? Capturing a tower alone should probably fill that out pretty quickly.
Lmao, greatest mod edit I’ve ever seen.
The PvE update is Laughable and the WvW update is worse than it was before for me, So i doubt i’ll be here much longer.
Good Luck to those that it is actually better for.
There definitely seems to be a massive lack of understanding as to what the PVE update actually was.
See, here’s the thing, you are not meant to see and know the entire story on day one. The PVE update will progress slowly overtime with subtly and reward exploration. Day one was seeing the refugee make their way south, and helping them along the way. After a few days, we start to see more of the story unfold, and eventually partake in the entire evolution of the story.
You will not see the whole thing at once. The idea is to simulate a living world. Things will change overtime as you experience the new PVE content.
Here’s a very good link I took from reddit that does a much better job of explaining it than I do.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=47082946&postcount=9795
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As a casual player, often not being able to log on for anymore time then to do the old dailies, I was not happy to see that the new dailies have more time consuming tasks. It took me 15 minutes to do the 15 Attack Dodges. As an Elementalist and Archer, I don’t typically try to go toe to toe with mobs. I found myself going to a low level zone and dodging low level mobs to complete.
Also the killing of Veteran mobs, while it was only 5, finding 5 really sucked. Through between the Maw Event and the Giant Veteran Worm that pops near there I completed it. Reading some of the other tasks, required grouping that is going to suck as I don’t often group at all. It looks like Anet is trying to move towards Gear Grinding and the need to group. Which for a casual player that is going to suck.
You could have done what I did, Just charge into a cluster of enemies, and start rolling. Got all my dodges pretty quickly as every enemy in the group fired at me simultaneously. One dodge netted me 6 evades at once. All with my engineer.
WvW tends to fall into a battle of numbers. Yes, you may lack the individual skills and abilities of a true level 80, but when you have 2 large forces battling out, any extra damage you can provide will prove to be useful.
You can also provide scouting and supply as well, but these won’t net experience.
Siege also does not scale based on level. They all do fixed damage to different targets, so you could be a level 10 upscaled, and still do damage using an arrow cart.
You can still provide much needed support, cast AOE’s and what not, you just have to be more careful than a fully geared player to not get into direct engagements. Focus on support damage at range instead of being at the front of an engagement, you find that you will be able to contribute without being a bother to you allies.
They promised us that Jan+Feb update = Expension worth.
Jan Pve update is plain joke.
Im gonna quit GW2 if the wVw update sucks.
For sure.
You seem to completely miss what a slowly evolving story line entails… it’s just a prelude to a a story line that is intended to happen over time. You can’t experience the whole thing on day 1, the content for the PVE side is intended to change over weeks.
Now I will have to say I have not come across the “Combo Killer” daily yet, maybe when I get home ( I thought someone said they deactivated that one?)
What does the explanation of the daily read?
Also I think I read in this post that there is a kill with allies type of quest where you have to kill with others? Sounds like a couple trips to the Maw can finish that one :-)
It was yesterdays, and it’s been mentioned by devs to be bugged. It did not work as intended, as the combo didnt always count, so they removed in in favour of dodging.
If I needed something, I’d craft it.
This is kind of how I feel about the crafting dailies, too. I plan to go ahead and do them because I want the laurels, but the items I’ll end up making will have no real purpose. Now, if they would add drink recipes to cooking, I’d be able to get my daily and do something else useful at the same time. lol
Hint, hint…
Why not just craft feasts? Especially if you WvW. The stats buff the provide is highly sought after by competitive guilds. You could use them, or sell them?
WoW has vertical progression and post 11/15 GW2 has vertical progression.
GW2 always had Vertical progression from day 1….
Is it true that u only get one laurel/day/account?
I think its per character, as each can complete a daily. But otherwise yes. Monthlies reward 10 laurels, starting with the Feb Daily
Nope, dailies are account wide, not per character.
Fair enough, I only bother doing them on my main anyways.
Is it true that u only get one laurel/day/account?
I think its per character, as each can complete a daily. But otherwise yes. Monthlies reward 10 laurels, starting with the Feb Daily
Ok just crafted 30 oricalcum ingot and my achievemetn is still 0/10. The other achievemetn are progressing but the new one stay always 0/10. ANET FIX IT
There is no crafting daily today. There’s a bug, you are seeing yesterdays.
Today, I think its dodging, reviving allies, 13 kill variety, and 5 events I think.
What’s the point in not crafting? Seriously, I’m curious, why would anyone choose not to craft?
A lot of players dislike crafting for various reasons. They find it boring, it’s a money sink they don’t want to get into, etc. This is actually a very common area of gaming that is skipped by players.
But, its easy experience, and even at level 400, some if not most are required if you want a Legendary. Even then, at level 400, the feasts from cooking alone are incredibly useful in WvW.
I don’t craft, but even I leveled up some of the crafts for the exp. refining 10 copper ingots can hardly be considered a time or money sink. That was all that was required and took me a total of 10 seconds, I just sold the ingots afterwards.
Crafting 10 items involves very little effort. Even if you just started playing the game on that day you can get it done very easily. You just buy a pick / axe / sickle go harvest a few nodes and you can craft your 10 items starting from absolute scratch.
Again, this is missing the entire point. Non-crafters are not concerned with the daily’s difficulty. Everyone already knows “crafting 10 ingots” is easy.
Can a non-crafter skip that daily altogether? Sure, but until the choice factor is implemented, they’ll miss days of getting laurels for the duration of that time. Gathering resource nodes, such as in the previous daily set, was a terrific middle-of-the-road option for both crafters and non-crafters alike.
What’s the point in not crafting? Seriously, I’m curious, why would anyone choose not to craft?
People really will complain about anything….
Dailies are fine as is. Who cares if you miss one or two Laurels… play some fractals as you work on your daily, you can get the kill variety, a chance to get some revives in, and a chance for some ascended gear.
Don’t forget they’re also changing the math for how ratings are calculated. So take Kaineng for example, a T8 server with a sudden influx of transfers dominated T8 for a few weeks before moving to T7, and then dominated each tier only moving up 1 per week.
The goal of the new math is to make a server like that move through the tiers much faster. I’ll keep my fingers crossed and hope that it works and things don’t take a whole month to stabilize.
ok, sure that might make sense for Kaineng, but what about winning servers in top tiers that have sustained victory records, those dont count for anything? It’s just not fair.
Considering the top tiers will start at the top, it’s entirely possible they may stay there, you will likely see the most volatility in T5-T2
SBI here.
First – the guilds that moved from SBI to SoR (Mord, Yaki, Syn, SSQ and the rest) were always great and dedicated people – nothing but respect and admiration for them. They fought against odds and won all the time. No hostility from me to anyone there. In fact, it was more of us NA failing them. They were always honest and dedicated. May you find what you looked for.
Second – the announcement of paid transfers was bound to cause this kind of movements. Dedicated WvW guilds wanted to consolidate into a few high level servers, in context of dwindling GW2 population. 100% predictable.
Life will go on and reach a new state of balance in a few weeks/months. Let’s stay classy and enjoy the game the way we can.
GL to all.
I’d have to give this my vote for a beautiful post. This is the attitude I can respect.
I feel bad for my TC friends, I knew you guys were thrilled when BG left because you’d be in a way more even matchup and wouldn’t be nightcapped into oblivion every night.
I would imagine that with the monetary lock on transfers, it makes t2 the “bench” for T1.
Don’t worry too much, there will be a few servers still to make their way up from the lower Tiers.
Kaineng and Fort Aspenwood seem to be making alot of progress, and theirs probably another server or two that may make a push. I’m predicting a very volatile T2/T3 shortly, as soon as the servers make their way up in the rankings. May take a week or two for it to happen though. There’s always still the possibility that BG may lose a guild or two too, their morale has kinda dwindled with finding so many of their opponents have gained guilds over them in T1. I am speculating of course, and none of this is set in stone. There will be a ton of surprises coming probably before the 28th.
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Welcome to the new Tier 2! Despite the greater BS going on on all fronts, I’m still having fun on SoRBL, good fights. Here’s your update:
Its good to hear. With the tier imbalance at the moment, might aswell just play to have fun
What imbalance? You mean all the people jumping to SoR? You mean you previously couldn’t field large zergs on 2 maps in dual pronged assaults last week?
That’s precisely what I’m talking about. The tier currently is tipped in our favour with all the recent transfers. I’m not going to pretend it’s not happening. I’m just saying there’s not point in even worrying about scores anymore and just play for the sake of playing. My comment was more directed at the fact Sunspot said they were still having fun.
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Best of luck to everyone still on SBI, and TC. I know this week will like be unfavourable, but give it your all and just play to have fun. Ignore the score and just enjoy yourselves.
Hopefully soon with all the shuffling, the tiers will rebalance. May take a bit of time, but there will be tons of movement across the tiers.
Welcome to the new Tier 2! Despite the greater BS going on on all fronts, I’m still having fun on SoRBL, good fights. Here’s your update:
Its good to hear. With the tier imbalance at the moment, might aswell just play to have fun
Sceptus, these stories are awesome. Keep writing them. They give me a unique vision of whats happening in WvW while I’m at work.
Man, we’re losing people left and right. I live in the EST timezone and during my 6PM-10PM period SBI is outmanned in every single map…
Nah, we’re fine…
Picture of the week goes to Maladon for his photo titled “I’ve got this guys, don’t worry”
That’s one defiant Asura. Maladon, the fact that the Asura is staring them down vs hightailing it sells this picture.
Im sorry to hear the effect this has had on SBI, being a SoR player i have noticed how bleak it seems to have become for SBI.
The main issue is people in guilds are realising that the next transfer will be there last free transfer period, and those guilds who has lightly considered moving before are jumping ship now before there locked.
Its the snowball effect, but on a server-wide scale, once one go the server WvW weakens and more go because of it. Your best bet would to be either ride out the fall in tiers for SBI until it evens out again, or move to your ‘final’ so to speak, server.
Alot of guilds from multiple servers and thousands of players have joined SoR because they want a shot in Tier 1 without joining T1 guilds and they see SoR as the one to provide that excitement.
TC could have have a shot too if they had a few strong guilds join them in my opinion too. They could do some damage with rounded out coverage.
Oh, they’ll be in WvW, I have leveled the engineer to 40 and the guardian to 52 just in WvW, so for sure I’ll be there. Not one to give up regardless of the odds, was just thinking with them most likely completely breaking my necro soon with the nerf bat (and I really don’t want to go back to my thief or mesmer) that I should get on the engineer or guardian to get some levels in during the transition. They are also the best 2 classes at spamming skills through doors at incoming rams, so it may come in handy.
I have to admit, I love my necro, but flamethrowers through a door are a lot of fun. It’s what I did all last night at Hills.
Engies are alot of fun in WvW. I haven’t played mine for a bit recently, leveled my necro, but like you said, with the AOE nerf, I may end up going back to the engi.
No matta’ who be transferin’ ’ta ’dis server or ’dat server, it be not matter.
Even in ‘da face of ever increase o’ ‘da odds that be o’ ’gainst us.
We o’ TC be ready now more ’dan eva ’ta fight ’r battles.
Ye be needin’ ’ta watch yer wenches and ye booty, for I be comin for ’dem both.
/spit
Walks away singing “Yo ho, Yo ho, a pirate’s life ’fer me…”
Honestly, you are by far one of my favourite posters on this forum. Even if you’re on an opposing server.
I may have to finish leveling my engineer and guardian till the server shuffle settles down. Maybe I’ll roll a warrior and work on that since the pending aoe nerf is coming too.
Don’t do that too soon. Honestly, wait and see a week before abandoning WvW. Last thing any server needs is people giving up until things balance out.
You guys may get some smaller moves. I’ve already seen people on reddit interested in both the RP community you have and the WvW community. I would push that a bit more, especially for EU / Oceanics who would want to RP.