Guild Wars 2

I know that people have been complaining about bots since the game was first opened, but it seems now that arenanet just doesnt care anymore.

In the past week, i have tried to play my level 80 messer to farm some of the events in Cursed Shore for karma. All the events seem to be camped by at least 4 bots or more per event and there are train bots running all over the place in low level areas, making playing there a pain as well.

Here is my story for the last week.

I rerolled my elementalist last monday. At level 2 i saw 4 ranger bots under the bridge in the human starter area.. reported all 4 of them numerous times.

As i leveled.. so did they. I would see them running the same pattern in the same area for days.

I went to caldon forrest at level 10 to help a friend with the post invasion right below twilight arbor and the worm event there and yes.. the bots would pop in, run around the swamp killing everything for a moment or two and poof… disappear.

By wed i was running the events at the bridge near meadows waypoint.. After 2 days i thought good… i know that i have reported these 4 bots at least 50 times.. and so had several others. BUT… nope.. there they were.. running around camping events near the bridge.

At around level 30, I would waypoint back and forth between meadows waypoint, the overlords camp south of there and then to another area out of the zone ( i forget where honestly) so that my xp from the events wouldnt drop. I figured that at least the bots, after running the events for days, wouldnt be getting any xp or karma from the events since they just did them over and over.. YET… i watched them at the bridge a while. They would run around and kill stuff… and then run to one spot between the bridge and the fort (about where the one catapult spawns) and disappear.

A few moments later, i noticed that the bot programmers had learned to use waypoints. They were waypointing to overlords camp, running a circle down there to get credit for that event and then they would run off the edge to the next event next door.. if it was up they would engage.. if not they would run to a point near the event, circle and disappear again.

Thursday morning, I decided to go back and check to see if the world worm was up in caldon forrest… and as soon as i waypoint to twilight arbor… who do you think i saw… Yup.. those same 4 bots. Just by pure coincidence that happened to be where they were zoning off map to get thier xp back up. They would run a circle by the lower camp and then disappear again. I was enraged.. so i made sure to report them all again and told everyone in the area to do the same, and everyone was complaining about them as well and said they had reported them.

Thursday night… the bots are still running around. They have obviously outleveled the area because they all have the down arrow. Reported numerous times again.

Friday morning. Bots still online, now they are running a pattern in bloodcoast out where the skalks spawn, south of the alpha drake spawn point. Reported them again and again.

Saturday morning Spotted the bots again… this time in sparkfly fin.. They are all there.. all running the pattern at splintered coast waypoint farming the kryat event, the gorge, then running up to where the dragon spawns, around the corner to where the quaggans come out of the water, back by the venders and back to the gorge… over and over and over.

I just noticed that when i brought up the launcher.. there was a red line with the phrase “please consider changing your password” click here. and a link to the account login.

Is this normal?

Has my account had a problem…? or does this show on all launchers?

just wondering.

I have played both… so let me get my 2 cents in.

Right now the only thing mesmers have going for them is the simple fact that the clones/phantasms keep the agro off the mesmer.

thier aoe sux and.. for example…

i went to orr last week. The penitent waypoint events (three total 2 at one end of tunnel one at the other) i could not get a single kill.

one event was camped by a warrior bot, 4 ranger bots and a guardian bot.

the event on the lower hill on the other end of the tunnel was camped by 3 engineer bots with tons of turrets, an elementalist (afk runnning against wall only popping his elemental) and 2 more ranger bots..

The spider event was camped by 2 guardian bots, a warrior bot and 4 more ranger bots.

The point is.. as messer.. it was impossible for me to get any kills. When i would pop berserker, he would appear and because the target died so fast, disappear without hitting anything. Same goes for the rest of my clones etc. The only way i could tag stuff, if i was lucky, was to pop down staff 5 aoe and pray.

My elementalist could at least drop aoes and get a few kills here and there.

Now… with that said… Let me say that i like elementalist, but…. they need more defense. I have tried every “defensive” build including water and earth.. and anything my level or above kills me in 1-2 hits simply because elems are a glass cannon… always will be because of the class design.

This is really the only difference in elem vs mesmer. Mesmer doesnt die ( they are just as squishy if not more squishy than elem) because thier clones, phantasms keep stuff from hittin them. The trade off is that mesmers do horrid damage and have NO aoe skills to speak of other than berserker, and to do ANY good aoe, you have to keep three berserkers up spinning… which is virtually impossible unless its on a world boss like the dragon in sparkfly fin.

if you get killed by them in WvW then its basically your fault for losing track of the real one. They are 1 -2 shot kills in WvW. Elementalists are about the same.. 1-2 shot kills.. but they have better run and evasion skills.

2 fixes they need.. and im sure everyone will agree..

Elem need more toughness so that they arent completely glass cannons, even if this means a slight reduction in aoe skills or dps.. i mean come on.. you can throw down how many aoes? flame aoe, signet aoe, flamesword aoe, earth has two aoes, water aoe, air aoe and if your asura poison aoe… im sure i missed one.. but you get the point.. all of these down at once is a lil OP.

mesmers do great at surviving, but to make them viable at events etc.. they need some serious AOE love.. and it wouldn’t hurt to make thier damage a lil less dependant on having 3 berserkers etc up to be competitive.

ALSO.. there are at least 3 engineers with a ___load of turrets on the OTHER end of the cave camping the spawn for the other event as well..

ALSO.. there are at least 3 engineers with a ___load of turrets on the OTHER end of the cave camping the spawn for the other event as well..can or will anything be done to remove these bots?

ALSO.. there are at least 3 engineers with a ___load of turrets on the OTHER end of the cave camping the spawn for the other event as well..can or will anything be done to remove these bots?it is impossible to do the events with this many bots parked in one spot

There are 4 ranger bots camping the events at penitent waypoint in cursed shore on TARNISHED COAST SERVER… the same 4 BOTS i and several hundred other people have reported over and over and over since they first started about a week ago.

They started “train botting” in the human starter area under the bridge on level 2-3 mobs, and the owner has moved them several times when they would level up, camping major events or in areas like sparkfly fin where they just run around killing in a circle for DAYS.. Now they are level 80 and are camping the events in cursed shore.

1. Arena net claims to be doing something to get rid of bots.. yet this happens ALL THE TIME.

2. The bots are allowed to level and then camp/farm major events in cursed shore, making it impossible for anyone else to tag any kills for event credit or loot.

This is stupid… if anyone knows how to get in touch with a game manager or anyone.. please do.. i personally have filed about 100 tickets on these 4 ranger bots over the last week or two.. and i KNOW im not the only one.. Arenanet has to have THOUSANDS of reports on these 4 accounts, which to me.. would = instant and perm ban… BUT… yet.. there they are.. farming away.. making the game impossible for others to play and frankly im getting pretty kitten sick of fighting against bots for event credit and loot at every kitten event i have done since level 1 all the way to 80… and yet they are still allowed to stand there botting.

If a game manager would simply log in and check some of the events on tarnished coast, they would be banning people left and right.. There are literally HUNDREDS of bots across all the events. from the low level 20ish ones… all the way to the 80 leet events.

please fix this asap.

PS. im sorry for the multiple copies of the paragraph in the last post… no clue why that happened

as someone said before.. we can tag mobs with a shatter build… but thats it.. we have one aoe with staff… and then clone/phan shatters that do pitiful dps.. Sometimes, even with shatter you cant do enough damage to get credit for the kills.

I know that the premise seems to be if you hit something at least once you get credit, but the truth is you have to do enough damage before it dies to get credit and xp. In large scale events, mesmers just dont have the aoe dps to tag a full group for credit on most.

The most i can tag in a large scale invasion event is maybe 1-3 out of 12 incoming. It is enough to get me credit for the event yes… but, we need cash too and its almost impossible to kill in large events efficiently to get any drops.

The ONLY way a mesmer can tag an entire group is if you are there as they spawn… pop your phan berserker, he happens to spin through the middle tagging them all (*becuse the direction they spin seems to be totally random) and then immediatly hitting shatter for confusion damage. Then.. we have to wait for those skills to reset (missing 1 spawn) and trying again.

Staff aoe is mainly a debuff field.. almost no dps so thats only an option if scepter/focus or Greatsword skills are down depending on which you use.

I have played elementalist and all other classes except warrior and thief, so i cant count on those 2 classes…

but.. lets take elementalist for example as a comparison.

but.. lets take elementalist for example as a comparison.In a group they can pop meteor shower, drop a greatsword and use 5 (the aoe) and also pop a signet of storms and have 3 HEAVY aoes going at the same time. They can also drop a ice bow and use that AOE if they are fast enough and call a pet for 30 seconds. Not counting the aoe from thier regular skills like air skill 1, earths 2 aoes and water even has an AOE bomb.

but.. lets take elementalist for example as a comparison.In a group they can pop meteor shower, drop a greatsword and use 5 (the aoe) and also pop a signet of storms and have 3 HEAVY aoes going at the same time. They can also drop a ice bow and use that AOE if they are fast enough and call a pet for 30 seconds. Not counting the aoe from thier regular skills like air skill 1, earths 2 aoes and water even has an AOE bomb.Rangers have traps they can throw, and a volley along with multi shots etc.

but.. lets take elementalist for example as a comparison.In a group they can pop meteor shower, drop a greatsword and use 5 (the aoe) and also pop a signet of storms and have 3 HEAVY aoes going at the same time. They can also drop a ice bow and use that AOE if they are fast enough and call a pet for 30 seconds. Not counting the aoe from thier regular skills like air skill 1, earths 2 aoes and water even has an AOE bomb.Rangers have traps they can throw, and a volley along with multi shots etc.Guardians have staff aoe out the wazoo along with the spin of greatsword that does 10x any aoe a messer can do in 1 hit.

but.. lets take elementalist for example as a comparison.In a group they can pop meteor shower, drop a greatsword and use 5 (the aoe) and also pop a signet of storms and have 3 HEAVY aoes going at the same time. They can also drop a ice bow and use that AOE if they are fast enough and call a pet for 30 seconds. Not counting the aoe from thier regular skills like air skill 1, earths 2 aoes and water even has an AOE bomb.Rangers have traps they can throw, and a volley along with multi shots etc.Guardians have staff aoe out the wazoo along with the spin of greatsword that does 10x any aoe a messer can do in 1 hit.Yes we may be able to tag multiple mobs in events, enough to get credit for the event if we’re lucky.. but as for tagging enough to get fair loot compared to the other classes.. it is impossible.

but.. lets take elementalist for example as a comparison.In a group they can pop meteor shower, drop a greatsword and use 5 (the aoe) and also pop a signet of storms and have 3 HEAVY aoes going at the same time. They can also drop a ice bow and use that AOE if they are fast enough and call a pet for 30 seconds. Not counting the aoe from thier regular skills like air skill 1, earths 2 aoes and water even has an AOE bomb.Rangers have traps they can throw, and a volley along with multi shots etc.Guardians have staff aoe out the wazoo along with the spin of greatsword that does 10x any aoe a messer can do in 1 hit.Yes we may be able to tag multiple mobs in events, enough to get credit for the event if we’re lucky.. but as for tagging enough to get fair loot compared to the other classes.. it is impossible.

TONS of events on tarnished coast server have been bugging today… event spawns.. no bad guys attack.. especially in sparkfly fin areas. A lot of the lower level areas are having events bug as well.

Also.. level 50ish events (the few that are working) are only giving 200xp instead of 5000 xp as they should.

Also.. level 50ish events (the few that are working) are only giving 200xp instead of 5000 xp as they should.Can we get a server restart please?

to the orginal poster… the game requires windows vista or higher… your running xp Pro… upgrade!… or you can try one last thing. right click on the game icon, goto compatability mode and set to run as admin..

also.. if anyone is running the game on vista and having problems.. you can set the compatability mode to windows xp sp2 or 3 and run as admin, and this forces the game to use the directx 9c files instead of direct x 11 where they are emulated instead of actually used.. make sure you have the old directx 9c files installed on your PC and a copy of the dll in your game folder.

also.. if anyone is running the game on vista and having problems.. you can set the compatability mode to windows xp sp2 or 3 and run as admin, and this forces the game to use the directx 9c files instead of direct x 11 where they are emulated instead of actually used.. make sure you have the old directx 9c files installed on your PC and a copy of the dll in your game folder.hope this helps.. =)