Quickblade Vince – Thief
The Asurnator – Elementalist
CD: only fight when they’re outnumbering you, thief hitting keeps so we can’t spawn, thieves abusing food that roots you. Great guys. Why couldn’t you leave the tier instead of SBI who fights with honor?
CD only fights when we outnumber the enemy? You should’ve seen CDBL bay keep at around 4-5am server time. We definitely did not fight with number superiority. As for hitting hitting keeps, contesting keeps is a legit tactic and I don’t know why you wouldn’t do it.
Also, there’s no such thing as food that stuns you, you probably just got hit by basilisk venom.
It immobilized me and had the animation of the tree branches from Oakhearts. There was no Oakheart or any other mob near us. And I find contesting keeps weak.
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Grasping_Vines
And I think contesting keeps is smart, not weak. Purposely putting yourself at a disadvantage is just stupid.
Ah, it is indeed this skill that he used as he was sylvari. And I still stick my point on contesting keeps, especially the ones that aren’t SM. Brb, hitting walls for 3 hours to make others run. Seems pretty low life to me.
CD: only fight when they’re outnumbering you, thief hitting keeps so we can’t spawn, thieves abusing food that roots you. Great guys. Why couldn’t you leave the tier instead of SBI who fights with honor?
CD only fights when we outnumber the enemy? You should’ve seen CDBL bay keep at around 4-5am server time. We definitely did not fight with number superiority. As for hitting hitting keeps, contesting keeps is a legit tactic and I don’t know why you wouldn’t do it.
Also, there’s no such thing as food that stuns you, you probably just got hit by basilisk venom.
It immobilized me and had the animation of the tree branches from Oakhearts. There was no Oakheart or any other mob near us. And I find contesting keeps weak.
CD: only fight when they’re outnumbering you, thief hitting keeps so we can’t spawn, thieves abusing food that roots you. Great guys. Why couldn’t you leave the tier instead of SBI who fights with honor?
One of the best sets for a mesmer imo. I rocked it until I got tier 2 asura, which is even more mesmerlike to me.
I just found it in the Shatter Cat hybrid 2
Could you tell me the name of the first song in that video? There’s no title in description or the end of the video.
Hey Osi
Hkittenter cat Heavy 2.0 dissapeared from your uploads or did you never have it? There’s an awesome song I’m looking for, very soothing, and I thought it was in that video. Now I can’t find it anywhere.
Outside of my suggestions I like Revealed and The Initiated. I absolutely hate Cloak and Swagger. Swag is an overly used word, is for little boys that wants to act though imo. It doesn’t fit the thief as well. A thief is a dark, sneaky assassin, not a rapper with 7 golden rings.
kitten please my half naked burly norn woman with fangs and tail is no sneaky tank that gets off on energy regeneration and block chance, she throws shiny daggers in a chain-gold-purple pimp suit and a shortbow to range-slap, Cloak (for all you stabby stabby guys that used to be really annoying in wvwvw) and Swagger (true pimps sharing venoms and boons around like cheap hookers on a mixer) is perfect.
It’s not because you like swag and be a travesty to us fellow thieves, that we all want to be. This is a thief: http://www.3drt.com/3dm/characters/thief/thief-3d-character-fantasy-lowpoly_02.jpg
Not this: http://24.media.tumblr.com/1e48e6fcf7d33e951b7017603478698b/tumblr_mibdi5ujel1rmnqqgo1_500.png
Outside of my suggestions I like Revealed and The Initiated. I absolutely hate Cloak and Swagger. Swag is an overly used word, is for little boys that wants to act though imo. It doesn’t fit the thief as well. A thief is a dark, sneaky assassin, not a rapper with 7 golden rings.
The Brotherhood
Hiding in plain sight
Hiding in the Shadows
Cloak and Dagger
Step and Stealth
Thieves Guild
What’s your build?
The way you play is insane. Seems cooler than Jumper’s FS spam. I’m convinced to make such a build now. That shadowstepping was beautiful.
You sometimes spam HS 4 times in a row. Lol.
So if we find a hacker from SoS, does that mean the whole SoS server hacks? or if they capitalize on the hacker’s distraction, does that make them a bad server? … not really. Best you could do is just report it.
Don’t generalize and pick out one person/guild for their actions because every server has their own hacker/glitcher/oppurtunist/etc.
Here’s a pic of an SoS ranger from guild Elite Ones [LeeT] having invulnerability for like 2 min straight until we just gave up haha =)
Seems like a thief, not a ranger. And he probably has the protection buff from being close to the homebase. Do you even WvW?
CD is pathetic. There are 2 thieves locking SM and our Keep.
While I agree thief is very fun to play, I’d say most of your analysis is wrong. Thieves are meant to be squishy damage dealers. Sure the others exist but they aren’t that effective. I also feel thief is based on stealth, seeing as our best trait line is Shadow Arts, which heavily utilizes stealth.
Lol, culling rarely happens anymore, that’s not a vaid argument. It’s probably not popular on your server. They’re not popular here on SoS too but in WvW, CD seems to have them a lot. Especially thieves and mesmers.
I’ve fought a lot of guardian these past days and I can tell you, thief is far from OP. First off, they have a lot of retal up, that hurts. Secondly, they have their whirling attack that hits like a truck. I’ve seen over 6k damage on me with it when I was CC’ed. That while I hit for 3k backstabs on him, with his protection and high toughness. A good guardian will NEVER lose against a thief unless he catches him off guard. Same with many other classes but this is the most apparant to me.
Kind of dissapointed that CD needs to resort to arrow carts at Quentin Lake to wipe a zerg of SoS that’s barely half the size.
Lol at the ignorant noobs saying this is balanced. A thief is the squishiest class in game, even bunkered up. If we don’t have stealth we’re dead in seconds. See what happens when u chain CC a thief, he can’t do kitten cause he isn’t stealthed. The whole class relies on it. But it’s okay, other classes, just give us your 10k base hp u got more, or your 10k boons. Some people really need to think before they type.
By your description you are already the best player in the world. Why do you seek help?
I can’t stand S/D. Brb spamming 3. It’s literally nothing else.
Our different attunements don’t mean much when we’re forced to switch between them due to weak autoattacks, long cooldowns, and bonuses for swapping attunements, instead of using them for specific situations.
What he said.
I thought it would be like the Engineer, where you swapped attunements depending on what’s needed. Right now I’m leveling an Engi, and it’s a lot more fun because all of the 10-30 skills can be accessed at any time.
Obviously if attunements have no cooldown, it would be overpowered, but I still hope that one day I can swap attunements not just because all the skills in the current attunement are on cooldown.
It would not be overpowered if the traits and bonuses would have ICD’s.
Try Tier 6-7 any server.
But before you leave. We keep camps during the evening. Not sure which borderland you go to but EB/SoS always have few people playing during NA. We don’t have NA as much as SBI/CD but we trying to recruit more.
Cheers
Luvpie
Yeah I was exaggerating a bit but the point is still the same. Last night or a couple of nights before CD had whole EB.
Wait wuh? Haven’t been playing that much lately but did this really happen? As much as I love my server, I don’t think we are strong enough to do that.
Yep I definitely saw that happening. NSP and DH are both to be considered. I like the tiers and I like what I have read about them thus far, esp NSP. I have read a bit in the tier threads as well
^ It’s also for the zergs though. I like smaller scale battles for 2 reasons: they’re more fun to me and involve more individual role. 2nd reason is that my laptop was just 800 dollars and it runs on pretty low graphics. Big zergs make my laptop go to a slideshow.
Try Tier 6-7 any server.
But before you leave. We keep camps during the evening. Not sure which borderland you go to but EB/SoS always have few people playing during NA. We don’t have NA as much as SBI/CD but we trying to recruit more.
Cheers
Luvpie
Yeah I was exaggerating a bit but the point is still the same. Last night or a couple of nights before CD had whole EB.
Hey guys
I’m currently in SoS and now getting into WvW but the zergs are too big to my liking. It’s T4. What I also dislike with SoS is the huge lack of people during NA times. I myself am European and play during all hours but it’s not fun just facerolling in the morning and then barely keeping a camp in the evening. I’d like a server that’s pretty balanced.
I was thinking of joining a server in T6 but I’m open to suggestions.
Please help
Saw this video yesterday, commented on it wtf RTL got nerfed, made a ranger with this build. Hey OP, try it without master’s bond, get shouts recharge trait and get sic’em
You have to swap pets now but they still have great sustain and now, you have strong burst
I saw 4k crits with jaguar in spvp. Ranger seems to be a better bunker than my ele ever was. The only thing lacking is stunbreakers/ condi removal compared to an ele.
What Pentalic said about initiative is true. I use a D/P and D/D set up. D/P requires a lot of initiative yet my only trait ini regen is 2 on stealth. I see a lot of D/P users also using others like the signet and 20 in acrobatics but this not needed. I can do fine witht his one. Just gotta be careful with spamming dat der heartseeker. I mainly use it as a short gap closer/damage dealer. I always chain a few auto attacks (that hit like a truck) in between heartseekers.
Hey Coloxus, I’m in your guild :P
I must say that this gameplay was not great. You have done loads better before. What I really disliked is how you constantly used your utilities to stealth up to stomp while you’re sitting in full initiative. Drop BP or switch to D/D to use CnD.
I speak mainly from a WvW point of view. They’re okay. It’s not easy to land backstabs all the time but isn’t that difficult either. With Shadow Refuge and a D/P I have a lot of access to on demand stealth which is great. I don’t even need to run 20 in acrobatics for initiative every 10 secs or the utility.
Stealth is also a very strong mechanic so use it as much as possible. It shines especially in small team battles where you just pick off the low guys and stealth up again.
What is difficult though, is not getting focused sometimes. If you get stunned or immobilized you have to be very quick to react to that or you’re dead. And sometimes you can’t do anything about it. Overall, in WvW I feel thief is very strong. Landing 8k backstabs on level 80’s is awesome. And I’m not even that glassy.
that was kinda slow and boring 1v1 and if you think mez isn’t getting nerfed every patch you should look at patch notes. Engi/mez is all that receives nerfs
I have a mesmer too and most of the nerfs were bugs that made you unstoppable. Multiple shatters on the same clones? Might stacking through the roof because of bugs? Those are well deserved nerfs. My mesmer can still do what I could when I first created it. Confusion got nerfed which is one build of the mesmer while they still ahve at least 3-4 others that are great. Mesmer is THE most viable class for pvp-play, don’t come crying to me about mesmers.
I agree with engis though, they really need some love.
He also dodges a lot, sometimes with no point just to get positioning better. Since eles have perma vigor, access to dodges generally isn’t a problem.
His gear is afaik PVT with more damage oriented trinkets. Mostly ascended berserker stuff.
Next time I’ll try to observe his status bar 24/7 to watch the leap come in instead of actually seeing where he’s positioned to land my burning speed and other skills. Thanks for the tip.
I got up to 4 mins of the video until I got bored. At that point it takes anyone to see how the mesmer completely out play that d/d ele. Due to the various and constant heals this build has to get out of any possible tight 1v1 situation the ele can encounter, the mesmer can’t emphasize on bringing him down. Don’t be surprise when the heals from this build get nerf because I am certain, it will happen.
That’s the thing an ele needs. He needs the heals to keep him alive. If he doesn’t have that, the damage needs to be stronger.
Hey guys
This is a duel between Intigo, who is a great D/D ele player and Osicat, the famous shatter mesmer. As you can see, these battles are before the nerfs. Both are very good players, they have mastered the class to an excellent level and they are very capable of killing both opponents. They also are very evened out.
Now tell me, if a mesmer can play like that against a clearly overpowered profession (/sarcasm). Why did they only nerf us so badly? If a mesmer if capable of doing that, aren’t they OP as well?
Not suggesting they are OP just simply stating that the nerfs were unreasonable. Especially the RTL nerf. Inb4 confusion nerf which barely hurt him.
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Hey guys, is there any way to this build begin viable in PVE too? For high damage i mean. Ty
Of course. Just gotta know where you can and where you can’t.
I’m ‘avin’ a giggle with this build. Fun to kill people quickly. Burst of peace
As natty as naturalgraham
For example, my thief has mostly valkyrie equips, but there’s also some knight’s in it and some berserkers. Overall, this puts me at 3k attack, 45% crit rate, 99% crit dmg, 2.5k armor and 16k health. I feel like this is a really good set up so far. If I feel like I’m getting squished too hard I’ll probably try to add in some more knight’s or cavalier to try to make up for that. It’s all about trying out and not being afraid to using multiple armor sets.
Shameless bump ! I cannot be the only one to be interested by this question, or ? :-)
I cannot fully answer this as my engineer is only level 12 atm. I do however have an ele and thief that I play in wvw. For stats I really go for whatever fits my build. Rampager, carrion and rabid all have good stats for a HGH engineer so it’s a matter of balancing them to get the right amount of stats.
Don’t forget distortion. Mesmer, Arenanet’s favorite didn’t get this nerf of course.
-50% Confusion damage nerf. Maybe pick another class to pick on?
The fact remains that distortion still does not block your skills, like it should. The confusion nerf actually hits engineers harder than mesmers since mesmers still have multiple viable builds and are one of the strongest classes since the release of the game up until now? So no thanks Jeff, I will not pick another class to pick on.
I don’t agree with the damage nerf to confusion, it should have been that less things trigger it but still, it doesn’t hurt mesmers that much who still have 3 very viable builds. Or even more that I do not know off.
I just don’t understand it. Other classes have similar skills (Warrior’s Savage Leap, Rush, Ranger’s leaps on sword and greatsword, thief heartseeker spam) and yet they have a way lower cooldown.
Why? They do the exact same thing? And don’t give me the crap of an elementalist is supposed to be slower. An ele is a kitten wizard and wizards can dissapparate.
Solo.9027
“Shield #5 is a 30 second cooldown mist form clone that you can trait even
further to 24 seconds.
Mist form needs to be dropped down to 45 seconds base with 36 seconds if
traited.”Shield #5 or Shield stance is a weapon skill, and mist form is a utility skill. You can’t compare the two in this situation.
The closest Warrior utility skill you can compare to mist form is endure pain, which, as we all know, is susceptible to cc’s, i.e, stuns, fear, daze and the like. This means that heals during the duration of endure pain can be interrupted. If you’re upset that now your heals can be interrupted as well, all I can say is welcome to our world.
Susceptible to stuns, poor you. You can still damage for the entire duration.
There was actually. In a 1v1, you have to interrupt the enemy heal skill if you want to win. There are always certain skills that need to be interrupted. Ele and Engi had the distinct advantage to completely block you from doing this all together. In fact, Engi could do this TWICE (at 25% hp and on demand). Mix this with reduced recharge on elixirs and it’s insanity. I could hold a point from 2-3 people for an entire match with my engi bunker.
Warrior’s Endure Pain, Mesmer’s Distortion. Why didn’t they get the same treatment? Especially Distortion.
Don’t forget distortion. Mesmer, Arenanet’s favorite didn’t get this nerf of course.
This is brilliant.
I totally agree with your solution. You fix would also make confusion hit equally as hard on anyone. Some classes get hurt a lot more by confusion. Just like your engineer, an elementalist, …
Signet of Restoration: Reduced effects passively
I don’t really run Signet of Restoration anymore, since I still feel ether renewal is superior in every situationHow (if) do you upkeep permaswiftness then? Last patch they reduced/fixed the amount of swiftness frostaura grants you. And not using Signet of Restoration means you miss out on another 17 seconds or so of swiftness (considering the increased boon duration through runes).
And what are your thoughts on swapping Mistform (from a WvW perspective) with Earth Armor now if one would still use Signet of Restoration? Might be the better deal now, considering how long the damage reduction lasts and it also brings stability to the build, which i often have been missing in bigger WvW fights wehere I was subject to a lot of CC.
You’re thinking about the glyph heal, not the signet.
I use ether renewal too and I can achieve permaswiftness. Auras, air swap and air 5 is enough for me.
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