Guild Wars 2

Just made this build while playing around in the editor (I do love this site) wondering what you’re thoughts and opinions are. This would be for small group or solo roaming in wvw. I generally stick to power/crit builds but wanted to look into conditions.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMAQRAsY3fjEV11xVuVo2BiVBB1ekJzfe2DD5oHVyoeC-jkyA4sAj1iIJAmsEI6AYmsIasVzioxqZwUpER1ekioVLFAMLrA-w

How I see SFR in this match up thread:

Should have brought my umbrella when I came to this thread, the tears are getting me soaked.
Can’t wait until the league is over, I’m dying to fight some T1 servers. Beware though SFR, Desolation has Canadians too.

OMG deso wins silver league? I will pull an SFR and blame the Canadians. Curse you Rox!!!

Jayne.9251:

Psst, I’m canadian too. But I’m on Piken

You must be why piken is third place then, kitten Canadians

LampGhost.9658:

Had a lovely weekend, starting with some open raids during reset, yesterday blobbing it up a bit and today in deso bl and around 6-9 CET in Gandara bl. It’s always so lovely to wipe out the complete abba blob and watch the endless load of loot scrolling on the right of the screen. The Gandara presence was minimal (think i’ve only seen diva and some other small scale guilds).

I wonder what the rest of the week will bring, maybe Gandara will make a heavy push in order to come first since Deso doesn’t really care anymore since we’ve already won anyway?

I’ve made a bet that we won’t win by over 45k, so Gandara and AM better keep fighting throughout the week

Syrul.4352:

so why the hell should a canadian play in eu servers? ….beside that 6 hours of delay IS relevant and isn’t desolation the first in silver league? ah yes…….but that’s pointless ofc

Are we first in silver league because of the 3 Canadians we have on our server? No. Common sense seems to be something of a commodity nowadays.

Stillmoon.6894:

here is a suggestion: how about moving server? it is just plain dang tad ridiculous that you have to wait 30min – 2 hour to join the wvw.
my server have no wvw queue, i can always get instant mayhem anytime i want.

just think about it

Giving logical suggestions isn’t that hard, you should try.
@OP, yes I agree getting dced in a guild raid can be frustrating having to re-queue

Syrul.4352:

lol i was crying? i don’t care or being third in the matchup , becouse we are still going to be seconds in the end…the fact is that the way they behave isn’t correct: i don’t want ban for this season i just want balance for the next becouse actually there isn’t, i play wvw a lot and i see what you do there i see how zergs behave and moreover i read the chat and hear the status of the maps so i’m not reporting something false, but only the consequences of their acts…call these cries but this is the truth, you think i’m a liar, a crier? check the forum, check on google on youtube we have video that show this, you think is normal? well i will laugh when it will happen to you….if everyone would play honestly ther wouldn’t be these problems ….however the fact that vizunah have a massive zerg during night is real, the fact that canadian’s time zone allow them to play during our insane night hours is another real fact i wonder what would happen is wvw would be closed after 2 am and opened after 8 am i guess those 6 hours would change much….ah yes actually i see the whole map in vizunah’s hands except 4 castles and piken keeps striking us (and only us) in ethernal , for those who say hold the line or die trying: i decided to play during nightime to hold the line so i know perfectly what that means (strange thing how bad in 1v1 french are…they work good only in zerg)

Quebec is only 6 hours behind france, it’s not like Australians or something. And ofc they have Canadians, I’m Canadian and i’m on desolation. I know of atleast 2 other Canadians on desolation as well, do people say Deso winning is due to Canadians? No because nobody is quite as ignorant as yourself.

Even if Vizunah has Canadians they make up <10% of their population and it’s not purely due to them that they win every night.

PS: this is wvw discussion, keep you garbage posts in a matchup thread please

If you don’t mind giving up the shortbow I would strongly reccomend: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMAQNAT8YjAVV2RWGWs2Bi1DBt//0UkJzzUwfGB-jECBYLCykFBi+AO9pIaslRFRjVbDTFjIq2iuIa1SBUuwI-w

That never fails me in 1v1, with the sword/dagger I can keep perma poison which is great for warriors using signet. If you really want to keep shortbow and run this build you will have to drop sword/dagger because you need the LB stealth for remorsless. Taking away sword/dagger however removes 3 evades and perma poison.

Shortbow is a condition weapon, so any build more specced to condi damage would really shine with a shortbow.

Cufufalating.8479:

mini.6018:

Cufufalating.8479:

Thieves balance their insane hits from stealth from being the squishiest class and the need for melee range..

Thief is by far NOT the squishiest class in the game and they also do not count as melee if you just press 1 button and you are teleported from range on your target.

Lowest health pool + light armour + extremely poor boons (unlike ele) = squishest

Backstab is 130 range = melee range

Anything else you’d like to share with us, or was that it?

Theives wear medium armour, try again. Thus making eles the squishiest going by base stats

Nty, with sword/dagger I can keep perma poison, and that is amazing against warriors who run healing signet. I do agree though more stealth would make that trait more usefull.

Let’s hope for a week full of fun fights in game rather than the forums

cazza.6078:

Yeah, keep telling you that.

You realize the French Canadian population is quite small. I think vizunah’s success is more based on real french nerds than french Canadians, but people with believe what they want, just try not to get too sad

Great fight with XXX at the south camp. Was definitely the highlight of the night. Big props the the Gandara who were watching and not interfering all I can say to you is Respect.
I like the Gandara I see in game better than the ones on the forums, so please less crying about the tick and lets just enjoy these great fights

NvN.4321:

Grotesque.6480:

Got a problem with Deso? Fight for it and bring it to the game, not on the forum. Deso fought against Vizunah for months which looked like a lost battle, atleast we never lost our fighting spirit, even after being close to free fall thrice. Not many servers can say the same.

Fighting on field? Now don’t go ahead of yourself there, you admitted you’re weak in primetime (check several posts in this thread). Gandara and FS guilds are far stronger. Unless you consider “fighting” the door when other people are asleep or at work.

Also if you read thread from beginning , it’s an epic saga from heavy tanking denial, to admitting tanking before finally settling for “we dropped into silver league”.

There are a few select guilds on Gandara and FSP that are better, and then there are those that I can’t differentiate from pugs. Deso’s primetime is rubbish because you are fighting pve’rs that don’t know what toughness is. I would love to transfer servers and farm them because I have watched how awful it is, so consider yourself lucky.

Any medium armour class is a good bet, as well as mesmer and warrior.

As it stands, the south part of the bl is a better spot for GvG’s. In my matchup there was a guild camping the entrance to the new arena plus 50 pugs fighting right at the spawn. Until it calms down it’s useless for GvG’s.

aShotOfDaniels.8574:

Loving how our EB side is being heavily capped by both Gand and FS. No team-work you guys protest? What about FS waving Gand on as we tried to take Briar back in Des BL?

Oh my god, from a deso player, please stop crying about double teaming. It’s a three way free for all, double teaming is inevitable, especially when you are the strongest server in the match. Take it as a compliment that they feel the need to tag team us like that, personally I think it gives us the greatest challenge because at least this week we will have to fight if we want to win. Not like other weeks where the match is decided Saturday morning.

Silent Shino.7239:

warriorjrd.8695:

Silent Shino.7239:

I’m from AG and I personally don’t care what happens in this matchup, just as long as Gandara wins and Tanko comes last
as I said before, silver league is counting on you Gandalf!

But then surely, gandara would be gold league material too then right? And FSP if we come last. I don’t understand, you say we tanked for easy wins because nobody can beat us, then you want/think people can beat us, you’re like a 4 yr old trying to pick out candy, make up your mind mate. You sound so sad too when you come on to a seperate match up’s forums and cheer on the other servers because you dislike deso, whats next? You going to make an anti-deso campaign with posters and t-shirts?

Actually, that last part’s not a bad idea^^

Why do I think you tanked? well let me answer that for you.

Your server made several guilds go away (a person from your server told everyone in a thread a little while ago) in order to get into silver league, then they were told to return once the season was over. However, one of the problems was that your server didn’t count on the sheer awesomeness that is Gandalf.

My theory:

Tankolation is a gold league server, but it is a silver league server (in terms of strength at the moment) that has gotten people to leave and has convinced so many forum warriors to deny all of this on these forums; whilst claiming themselves to be victims. Using these methods Tankolation planned to be a slightly better than the rest “silver league server” therefore making the tanking look like it was natural.

Once the league was over and all of the Tankolation forum warriors had gained their pretty dolyak related prizes and the guilds had returned, Tankolation would return to gold league where they would once again claim to be the victims of the “Vizunah zombies”.

This is why I am supporting Gandalf and not Tankolation, because Gandalf deserves to win silver league.

Please correct me if I’m wrong, I am looking forward to your reply (without flame this time )

I’ll buy two bags of whatever you’re on mate, I feel like going on an adventure =D
Let me give you a little history lesson about deso. Putting aside personal feelings, DVG is what carried deso. They were the ones who got us that nice shiny gold medal each week. However the mighty warriors got tired out and decided to go where the grass was greener. With them gone, others left, some for the same reason, others for different reasons.

One of the guilds that left disbanded shortly after the transfer, another split into two guilds on the other server due to different intentions. Another guild that was on deso never had any intention of staying and simply recruited here. I doubt any of the guilds that left deso have any intentions of returning, and if any do return you can give yourself a pat on the back.

I don’t think anybody really has the time to organize something like this simply for what, a golden dolyak finisher? You are thinking too much on a matter that is really quite simple. There is no elaborate plan to steamroll all of the silver league servers.

But of course people will believe what they want right, some people still think the earth is flat. All of this would make a great novel though so you should open a word document and type your thoughts there rather than this forum.

PS: I agree, with the numbers that we pulled at the beginning of the league and the numbers we pull each week, that we are a gold league server. What’s done is done though and no amount of crying and typing “tankolation” will change that, so why not go back to your match up thread and complain how boring a week it is because YOU are steamrolling.

Silent Shino.7239:

I’m from AG and I personally don’t care what happens in this matchup, just as long as Gandara wins and Tanko comes last
as I said before, silver league is counting on you Gandalf!

But then surely, gandara would be gold league material too then right? And FSP if we come last. I don’t understand, you say we tanked for easy wins because nobody can beat us, then you want/think people can beat us, you’re like a 4 yr old trying to pick out candy, make up your mind mate. You sound so sad too when you come on to a seperate match up’s forums and cheer on the other servers because you dislike deso, whats next? You going to make an anti-deso campaign with posters and t-shirts?

Looking forward to lots of smaller scale fights this week, try not to care too much about the score folks

aspirine.6852:

warriorjrd.8695:

aspirine.6852:

Sylosis.7125:

aspirine.6852:

Sylosis.7125:

Epic nite yesterday and morning, capping GH keep on eb was the highlight. GG to all that helped me while i tagged up. Shame we had lost deso hills wp due to lack of communication…..we just managed to save bay. GH and FR how did you like my epic deso garri defence on our home border with ma GOLEM. Omega golems OP to defend. ….. great fights anyway on eb and deso bl….love small scale stuff.

Checkout this video of INVI open raid last night on GH BL where I was tagged up /leading the farmfest. few clips http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4npmzwaf51g

Shame we couldnt take your keep, but you had too many separate groups/wp and spawn advantage… i really miss the separate guild groups we used to have on deso server to co-ordinate attacks…so hard to do anything with 1 blob against separate organised groups. GG GH nice defending.

Lol I like the part where you have to turn the settings down or else your pc wont be able to handle your enormous blob
And that wasnt fun, that was everything that is wrong with wvw right in one video.

Btw this is not me or my video, a guildy you can clearly see he is not tagged @@ ….the quality is really good tbh not seen another as good tbh when runnign so many numbers and he turned his settings down as i asked everyone too in TS as garri fights are normally laggy….most pc’s cant handle this game and its amazing at the spec of pc you have to have to even run it at medium settings.

I’m now waiting for your epic video upload or an epic forum reply…..anyway nothing wrong with WvW….i love to play the game in many ways…spvp wvw roaming…small skirmish’s and blobfests. Variety is the spice of life they say…or some kitten like that.

People always take my comments way too personal. Dont please.
I do not have an epic video because small scale looks way less impressive of course.
Let me tell you what I finf wrong in that vid and remember this has nothing to do with deso, GH does it also.
One big train/zerg/blob whatever you call it. people running through mobs going 1,1,1,1,1,1,1, sometimes 2 because you can just do this when you have more numbers. It’s the way wvw now works. You can just rez everyone during the fight or after it does not matter. The defenders can go out kill one of you but it makes no difference, they get instarezzed. And when one of the defenders dies, they have to waypoint most of the time.
Waypoints in enemy borderlands is also kinda weird because it allows them to be back right after we killed the zerg and dead people in keeps acting like scouts to tell when to attack.
So again, nothing to do with you or your server, every server does it. I also love wvw, but there is much improvement, I am sure some would agree.
Happy hunting Sylosis, I hope I did not dissapoint you without an epic vid or epic comment :/

You running internet explorer by any chance? I quite clearly remember idiots complaining about pointless things like that 7 months ago, weird.

Come down from your blob server and visit bottom of the bronze league for a good view. And internet explorer wtf is that about, don’t drink and post at the same time?

Well that joke went straight over your head, I’m not going to bother explaining it but basically, complaining about blobs is stupid. Do you really think your text on the forums will make them change their minds? Blobbers won’t stop blobbing, if you want to make them look stupid, wipe them then post a video on the forums. That would be much more effective than crying.

aspirine.6852:

Sylosis.7125:

aspirine.6852:

Sylosis.7125:

Epic nite yesterday and morning, capping GH keep on eb was the highlight. GG to all that helped me while i tagged up. Shame we had lost deso hills wp due to lack of communication…..we just managed to save bay. GH and FR how did you like my epic deso garri defence on our home border with ma GOLEM. Omega golems OP to defend. ….. great fights anyway on eb and deso bl….love small scale stuff.

Checkout this video of INVI open raid last night on GH BL where I was tagged up /leading the farmfest. few clips http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4npmzwaf51g

Shame we couldnt take your keep, but you had too many separate groups/wp and spawn advantage… i really miss the separate guild groups we used to have on deso server to co-ordinate attacks…so hard to do anything with 1 blob against separate organised groups. GG GH nice defending.

Lol I like the part where you have to turn the settings down or else your pc wont be able to handle your enormous blob
And that wasnt fun, that was everything that is wrong with wvw right in one video.

Btw this is not me or my video, a guildy you can clearly see he is not tagged @@ ….the quality is really good tbh not seen another as good tbh when runnign so many numbers and he turned his settings down as i asked everyone too in TS as garri fights are normally laggy….most pc’s cant handle this game and its amazing at the spec of pc you have to have to even run it at medium settings.

I’m now waiting for your epic video upload or an epic forum reply…..anyway nothing wrong with WvW….i love to play the game in many ways…spvp wvw roaming…small skirmish’s and blobfests. Variety is the spice of life they say…or some kitten like that.

People always take my comments way too personal. Dont please.
I do not have an epic video because small scale looks way less impressive of course.
Let me tell you what I finf wrong in that vid and remember this has nothing to do with deso, GH does it also.
One big train/zerg/blob whatever you call it. people running through mobs going 1,1,1,1,1,1,1, sometimes 2 because you can just do this when you have more numbers. It’s the way wvw now works. You can just rez everyone during the fight or after it does not matter. The defenders can go out kill one of you but it makes no difference, they get instarezzed. And when one of the defenders dies, they have to waypoint most of the time.
Waypoints in enemy borderlands is also kinda weird because it allows them to be back right after we killed the zerg and dead people in keeps acting like scouts to tell when to attack.
So again, nothing to do with you or your server, every server does it. I also love wvw, but there is much improvement, I am sure some would agree.
Happy hunting Sylosis, I hope I did not dissapoint you without an epic vid or epic comment :/

You running internet explorer by any chance? I quite clearly remember idiots complaining about pointless things like that 7 months ago, weird.

CntrlAltDefeat.1465:

I agree. They are nerfing hammer way to much. In PvE it sucks. It takes 10 hits to do what greatsword can do in 3. Unshakable.defiant/unstoppable only make it worse. Then there is the dungeons foes that it just says, “immune” even though they have none of the above stated boss buffs. It works well in PvP because all of its abilities are close quarter combat..not a thriw, not a rush that gets used only for disengage due to bad pathing, no 3 second self root..with disempower/unsuspecting foe that is the core of the damage. Look at the damage you do on a foe that has stability and no boons..it is weak as water and about to become thinner still.

So use a great sword for damage then. Hammer is a CC weapon, not a damage weapon, you said it yourself, and Anet has said they want to separate CC from damage. I’m sorry to tell you this, but warriors won’t have a universal weapon anymore. You have your damage weapon: GS, and your CC weapon: hammer, so use them depending on the situation.

azizul.8469:

just go to the untested formula : winner goes up, loser move down……

all other formula have been tested, except this one.

give it a go…..

after all ANET love testing

No way! That’s far too logical, and wouldn’t anger enough people. It’s also probably a “technical impossibility” just like separate reset times were.

Prysin.8542:

warriorjrd.8695:

Prysin.8542:

to those who believe our nightcapping crew is bad. Let me just underline a simple fact.
The top 5 server’s nightcrew is more then 4 times as numerous as ours. The remaining 4 servers have nightcrews 2-3 times the size of ours.
We are not a gold league server. Sure we seem strong in silver league, but that is because you guys dont bother to put in some effort and pull a all-nighter. If you guys want your beauty sleep, please, do go ahead, we wont mind. But when you wake up well rested and refreshed the next morning only to fight “zombies”, do not complain about our score, or the lack of “skill”. It is just a matter of prioritizing and dedication, in which we simply excel.

Look, stop lying to yourself. Before league started we weren’t a gold league server, that changed when leagues started. FYI, we don’t have to win gold league in order to be gold league material, but I can assure you we wouldn’t finish last in gold either, not with the surge in numbers we have now.

Funny thing is, if we were in gold league, majority of the people would probably just log off and not put up a fight. Seems a lot of Deso only stays up when they know there is no resistance.

Which means, we ARE NOT GOLD LEAGUE MATERIAL.
If all you got is sissies who only play when you win, you do not have a force to be recon with. You have a bandwagon crowd. And that bandwagon will head to some other place if you dont keep winning, thus, in reality, if we didnt have a PVE population the size of the moon, we would barely be able to beat the other top silver league servers.

It’s not the PVE’rs who PVD at night, and it’s the PVDing at night that gets us the wins, because we sure as hell don’t tick highest when the enemy has equal numbers on.

Regardless, I like the smaller scale fights during prime time I can get with my guild, that’s the best part of wvw in my opinion, not this broken tick mechanic.

Prysin.8542:

to those who believe our nightcapping crew is bad. Let me just underline a simple fact.
The top 5 server’s nightcrew is more then 4 times as numerous as ours. The remaining 4 servers have nightcrews 2-3 times the size of ours.
We are not a gold league server. Sure we seem strong in silver league, but that is because you guys dont bother to put in some effort and pull a all-nighter. If you guys want your beauty sleep, please, do go ahead, we wont mind. But when you wake up well rested and refreshed the next morning only to fight “zombies”, do not complain about our score, or the lack of “skill”. It is just a matter of prioritizing and dedication, in which we simply excel.

Look, stop lying to yourself. Before league started we weren’t a gold league server, that changed when leagues started. FYI, we don’t have to win gold league in order to be gold league material, but I can assure you we wouldn’t finish last in gold either, not with the surge in numbers we have now.

Funny thing is, if we were in gold league, majority of the people would probably just log off and not put up a fight. Seems a lot of Deso only stays up when they know there is no resistance.

I think some of the people replying need to re-read the original post. It said that this is a grandmaster trait. Grand master traits are supposed to define builds and be powerful. Right now one of our GM traits gives our pet 120 ish health regen, yeah because that’s really “grandmaster”. This would work well with a beastmaster build seeing as pets are borderline useless anyway.

I also think people need to understand the abbreviation “OP”, it stands for “over powered” not strong. Some people say things that are simply strong and very useful are “OP” and that’s kittened.

Cazanova.7845:

Its a interesting idea but honestly it will just be exactly what we have now the 2 larger worlds will pick on the 3rd for points and that’s in a evenish match up. In the current imbalanced league match ups the largest world will just constantly flip both worlds stuff and be in front by a large margin. Points from capture will not help any when most of the people coming to WvW are just here to PvE door for XP /karma /loot not for PvP

Keep in mind, in order to cap something back, the enemy had to have capped it, which means they would have gotten points from it. As I said, coverage will still be a factor, but much less of a factor than it is now atleast.

Zosk.5609:

A large percentage of players out there already only care about flips, (because the scoreboard is meaningless) and I have no idea why you think the devs would want or need to encourage it further instead of fixing the scoring system.

Really, I don’t get it. FYI there’s already a lot of roaming and ganking of sentries and camps for the points, perhaps you are just playing on a server that’s overcrowded?

I don’t really care about the tick. Infact, it’s quite ironic that I would make a post like this with the mindset I have about the score. That’s only because of the way it works however. Right now the score is meaningless because whoever can morning cap the most wins the match and there’s no point trying to fight back. This method makes coverage much less of a deciding factor of course it will still play a role, but not as much, thus giving people a reason to play past reset night.

DeadlySynz.3471:

I think numerous things would naturally even out the population imbalance

- Points on capture (as you mentioned)
- Points for kills (extra points for stomping)
- Points for upgrading and/or defending
- Points for winning fights with smaller numbers

I like the third and fourth idea. I was also thinking that maybe upgraded objectives would count more towards the tick. For example with a keep, each upgrade adds 1 ppt to it.

Cactus.2710:

warriorjrd.8695:

Just a thought, but wouldn’t this eliminate most population imbalance problems?
I am currently on Desolation, or Tankolation as some would put it. Regardless of how we got into silver league, we don’t really belong there with the surge in numbers.

If a server got points on capture, it would make defending an objective so much more important, you wouldn’t get replies saying “We can cap it back later for the tick” because if they capped that tower or keep that team would get X amount of points. This would also help when a server goes to sleep. As I said being from Deso, most nights/morning when the enemy sleeps we tick atleast 500. This continues until they wake up which varies with the server, but is still usually enough time to get us 10k ahead Saturday mornings. If you only got points for capping things when you capped them, then come Saturday morning we wouldn’t be out of reach. Yes we will still have capped a lot of objectives, but the enemy server could, when they wake up, put up a great fight and cap them back plus some.

I think this would really help with population imbalances and encourage smaller roaming so you can flip more things ( camp snipers, more guild groups etc).
I just thought of this while looking at my server’s tick earlier, but I’d like to know what you guys think.

Sigh … I can’t believe that anyone would post such a suggestion after spending even three minutes thinking about it. All it would accomplish is to encourage all three teams to flip objectives back and forth for the various non-point rewards, and it would always result in essentially a stalemate since by definition over the course of a week each server would have captured every objective an equal number of times. It would have exactly the same affect as awarding each team in basketball one point for every possession (which are always an equal number) instead of scoring baskets.

People flipping objectives for the non-point rewards back and forth already exists. I’ll be honest, I just thought of this spur of the moment, and there is a lot of flaws with the rough idea. However I think it’s safe to say that even this rough idea isn’t as flawed as the current PPT version. Like I said, some matches are decided Saturday morning because of night capping. There’s no fun in that, this would still be more reliant on coverage but not as much as the PPT method. The matches would be a lot closer overall.

I don’t know, maybe a mix of the two, PPT and points on capture would be better. Right not though, there’s little incentive to defend things that aren’t T3.

pupi.2465:

Separating Dmg and Ctrl exists in every mmo, btw, what i love in hammer is exactly the cc, but i do agree that the nerf on staggering blow is kinda absurd, same on LB, we already have too much cond choices, making LB only cond dmg makes GS/LB loose some powerhouse.

Another thing, they’re adding new weapon types ( i hope soon), and with the new “trait tree” and skills, i can imagine a BattleAxe comming around the corner.

That would mean AoE dmg for how it swings.

You just got the ability to move while casting it, which made it infinitely more useful than before. It’s more balance than nerf.

Just a thought, but wouldn’t this eliminate most population imbalance problems?
I am currently on Desolation, or Tankolation as some would put it. Regardless of how we got into silver league, we don’t really belong there with the surge in numbers.

If a server got points on capture, it would make defending an objective so much more important, you wouldn’t get replies saying “We can cap it back later for the tick” because if they capped that tower or keep that team would get X amount of points. This would also help when a server goes to sleep. As I said being from Deso, most nights/morning when the enemy sleeps we tick atleast 500. This continues until they wake up which varies with the server, but is still usually enough time to get us 10k ahead Saturday mornings. If you only got points for capping things when you capped them, then come Saturday morning we wouldn’t be out of reach. Yes we will still have capped a lot of objectives, but the enemy server could, when they wake up, put up a great fight and cap them back plus some.

I think this would really help with population imbalances and encourage smaller roaming so you can flip more things ( camp snipers, more guild groups etc).
I just thought of this while looking at my server’s tick earlier, but I’d like to know what you guys think.

Banzie.5248:

warriorjrd.8695:

GrandmaFunk.3052:

because your OP was ever so constructive. /eyeroll

“what purpose do Toxics in WvW serve?”

allowing WvW-focused players to get some of the achievements, drops and rewards from the LS, that’s the purpose it serves.

Please, don’t fool yourself into thinking real wvwers actually care about pve achievements. If I want to go do pve I will do it in a bloody pve map. I come to wvw to wvw, not to kill some over sized flower.

Get this pve out of my wvw

It’s yours? Everyone be sure to lodge complaints about wvw with this guy from now on. It’s his.

Yes its mine, I own you all. <3

GrandmaFunk.3052:

because your OP was ever so constructive. /eyeroll

“what purpose do Toxics in WvW serve?”

allowing WvW-focused players to get some of the achievements, drops and rewards from the LS, that’s the purpose it serves.

Please, don’t fool yourself into thinking real wvwers actually care about pve achievements. If I want to go do pve I will do it in a bloody pve map. I come to wvw to wvw, not to kill some over sized flower.

Get this pve out of my wvw

Nice fights on GH bl tonight Sorry for the blobbing some fights, the pug commander on the map apparently couldn’t resist those orange swords

Belfagor Diabolos.1940:

dikamilo.7519:

Belfagor Diabolos.1940:

dikamilo.7519:

Thanks for nice fun on EB today, over 1k kills.

" oh my hero "
sounds like a great achievement running with “guild-zerg” on EB against pug and tag 1000 of them ….
if U fancy killing me a 1k times 1v1 pm in game … if not then stop trolling
have nice weekend

25 guild players is “guild zerg” for you ? So if we are “guild zerg” then our oponent was “mega extreme super huge blob”. And no, no great achvement, it was fun reset raid after week with running and hidden Fort Ranik. So stop trolling and back to you borring sPvP or PvD.

Yes 25 + players is a “zerg” U make a battle marks on the map don’t U ?
So no mater if U run 25 or 50 its still a “zerg”, even worse U r so “hardcore” and U run “easy-mode” 25+ ppl on TS with sorted classes and builds against pug on EB “pug paradise” … try to do this with max 15 ppl …. or jump on the border when U can fight other guilds .. ..
U pretend to be a “so uber pro” but Ur just a “easy-mode” zergling …

I will not waste my time any more with U so enjoy the game my “uber- pro” and have a nice evening …
PS I think I waste to much time on the forum … so I’m off

Good luck everyone and have nice fights for the all week …..

You*

^ Blinds are fine, they affect ONE attack, so condition duration doesn’t affect blinds at all. I don’t even know if it’s possible to get -98% condition duration but if it is, you really have the audacity to cry about increased condition duration?

Rynier.3629:

Wow. Humble pie had to be eaten tonight in EB. INVI was in a destroying mood tonight and some more guild groups joined them.. We had the wrong people stuck in ques and we paid desperetaly for it. Im glad we managed to put up some resistance but /bow to your blob tonight in prime time. I dont think we managed to take a tower more than 3 times where previous nights we could take any tower pretty much over and over. ( not bragging saying we got taste of the proper Deso tonight )

I dont think ive died this many times in ages. I had a 1300 ping to the server from SA tonight but not even that is an excuse.

Really well done to you okes and thanks for the solid hard fights.!

Ps: Invi wiped us once and you could clearly see they pulled their numbers back to allow 4 or 5 guys to get away and not hunt them down. respect for that attitude boys

post edited as original one sounded like a big excuse for getting crushed haha

Haha, we enjoyed those fights too, I’m enjoying those most in the matchup

Great fights in eb tonight, INVI had loads of fun. It’s much more enjoyable to see AG fight on the battlefield rather than the forums because you guys are great fun

Jeez, all this QQ on something that’s already done. You guys cry like we can just up and move to gold league.
To deso players, I wouldn’t really brag about winning either. It’s been pointed out that several times that wvw is a coverage game and that AG ticks higher than deso during primetime. Not only that but I watched yesterday as the eb zerg literally got farmed in deso keep because nobody listened to the commander. I mean the pugs put them self in the same situation like 5 times before AG actually pulled off, I wonder how long it would have taken until those pvers stopped trying to attack them.

Coverage doesn’t equal skill, so every time a deso player brags about winning all you are saying is you’re really good at fighting doors while the enemy sleeps, and tbh, that doesn’t make you superior as somebody tried to put it.

TL;DR Aurora, please stop crying, while I can agree with some of what you say, you won’t change anything, so please just do something productive and farm these pvers taking my wvw spot

Deso, stop bragging, we have nothing to brag about.

great fights from TUP,VII, and FIRE on underworld bl tonight. Was great fun from INVI’s side, we hope to see you guys on the battlefield again =D

Suljo.6310:

MistMirage.4706:

1.You will not believe, but the prime time of my guild is different from yours. UTC+8.
Do you think we should wait when you wake up?
2. You always hidden in the towers. The best way find you – cap everything and then wait for capping something for catch you.

So my gut feeling was correct, when I said to myself, they must definetly have guilds not from Europe – guess you’re from Australia, how much fun is it for you to play versus the doors all the time? Secondly, when your team of 20-30 people arrives late at night to our borderland, when there is 5 people all togather scouting the towers and keeps, do you really think, they will jump down and fight you?

PsYcHoSeAn.4835:

Oh and btw…are you really proud for ticking the highest on saturday evening? The time where people usually go out and have a beer with their buddies or watch a movie? Dunno but I think you could’ve picked better examples than that…

By PRIMETIME I mean the time, that even Aurora Glade has que for entering any borderlands. And judging by the numbers of Desolation players, you had ques too. And guess what; some people drink beer with their buddies and play WvW on Saturday evening. Looks like for you the best time for playing/farmin points is Monday early morning, when people go to work, school, college … I would not be proud of the fact, your biggest opponent at that time are reinforced doors and veteran guards.

Who said he was proud, last I checked the initial reply was to somebody else who was saying we had 600+ tick. Now for those still saying we tanked, before leagues started I can assure you we weren’t a gold league server. However, after seeing the pve blobs we have now, I would say we definitely we are gold league server.

So instead of trying to make yourself sound tough of the forums or complain on the forums, do everybody a favour and kill these kitten pve scrubs clogging up my god kitten queue. Trust me, I hate them just as much as you, probably more. We’ve turned into a bloody vizunah kitten , and the only people proud of that are the pvers that have been in wvw for a total of 30 hours and don’t know what toughness is.

LMAO, well your first mistake was following the ranger underwater, your second mistake was not CCing his pet to stop the healing, and your third mistake was coming onto the ranger forums crying and trying to get some sympathy.

Titan.3472:

Jor.2741:

Thief: shortbow needs 1200 range.

And Longbow warrior1400 range then ; like engineer nades because IRL i never found anyone able to throw a nade farer that an arrow… Then replace the range longbow warrior trait with something new and useful : like 20% stance cooldown reduction.
Also replace the master trait warrior that is actually giving retaliation buff for few seconds for a new master trait 25% chance to cast 6 seconds of Protection when being hit with internal cooldown of 24sec.

Thieves are the only class without a 1200 range attack on a weapon, so don’t cry about warrior LB.

Silent Shino.7239:

I don’t think Underworld were tanking http://mos.millenium.org/servers/history/22 (ignore the latest three weeks) they’ve been around that area for ages.

I wasn’t saying they were tanking, simply pointing out the fact that they too lost wvw guilds and had they lost them any earlier they would have, according to some, tanked into bronze league. Now Underworld is losing every matchup so far and will most likely finish last in silver league, does that mean they are intentionally dropping?

Redball.7236:

Whether deso tanked or not isn’t really the question since it’s hugely obvious you did (I mean just look at the server score history on mos.millenium).
It’s more about whether they tanked for a good reason (so they don’t get blobbed every week in gold league) or just because they wanted to win.

I think a better question to ask is whether we intentionally tanked or not. It seems people only think a server can intentionally tank, but if that’s the case then how come nobody is calling out underworld for tanking and trying to drop to bronze league?

iorlas.6721:

Merc The Forgotten.5610:

Our pve people joined our strenght.
They are helping us a lot.

yea right.. Tankolation pvers save the day

I think most desolation players can agree that the influx of players is more than a nuisance. These queues, people not on teamspeak, people not listening to the commander, the queues.

Believe me, I would rather lose the match and be able to actually play the game, than win and not be able to.

Edit: ^ said while in a queue

PetricaKerempuh.7958:

i guess desolation is one of rare servers grateful for pve in wvw.

I don’t think “grateful” if the right word for me being stuck in hour long queues so people can do the jumping puzzle and get their achievement points.