Guild Wars 2

These forums are starting to read more like the diablo 3 forums every day.

Wizardauz.3761:

Xavi.6591:

I’m talking about the breakout event at Briar where ebay held Briar and Maguuma showed up, hung out by the water/bridge. But good times.

Ahhh

We took Bluebriar real quick but end up ditching it to focus on Yaks around Lake. Too good of a zerg fight to pass up.

Pretty sure you ended up ditching it because I parked my mes there, killed some crappy PURG guardian who I guess didn’t alert the rest of the realm, then ported 5 people in to take it while there were several of you sitting around in the tower.

Great work doing nothing instead of pushing east keep and getting both you and Maguuma extra points on the board at the sake of YB. EBay sure can complain about 2v1s but never seems to take the opportunity to 2v1 another server when it arises.

Cloud.7613:

Even if stealth was removed, thiefs would still be dominant and that is the scary thing.

It would be scary because of how bad the average player would have to be to die to an unstealthed thief.

I love thieves I need more free lootbags

-A mesmer

Hnnnnnng takin keeps from a server when they got 10 people online. I’m spurtin over here

Excuse me while I stroke my internet dick for a few minutes. Only trying to help.

It also works for burst repairing gates or burst building siege in WvW

It works by proccing 1 second of swiftness every second. Because of this, you can do things like stand in timewarp and then blink + stomp a player outside of the timewarp area with the quickness bonus.

I fully support your endeavor to get more good EBay guilds on Maguuma (not pk). I think the best way to accomplish this is for you to transfer to EBay, Bunzy. Plz do it for the realm.

Pinkus.2860:

I think we just need to have faith that the devs are reading the forums and taking notes.

Having faith in the devs is starting to seem like waiting for Godot. I had the highest rated response in the reddit AMA that received no response from the devs… Obviously it was about WvW.

Signed,
Yet another bored commander

Realpost time… how do you all have enough time to drop so many words on these forum posts. I mean I get a lot of time in between fscks to dump maybe a paragraph or two, but there’s an epic amount of care and essays going down in this thread. What kinda jobs do you all work with this sick amount of downtime and where do I apply?

Oh my goodness look at the amount of Words in this thread

Holy kitten y’all forum warriors need to get sedated

I transferred to FC for a week to work on PvP an 1vX skills to hone my build. Now I’m back on Mag and ready to kill.

I hope that EBay Zerg in Mag BL had fun getting knocked straight off the map. It’s nice to be back on Maguuma

Ender.3508:

Hehe, that FC [iRez] mesmer is a blast to duel. One mistake by either one of us and we were dead. If you read this, just wanted you to know i enjoyed it.

Those were awesome fights man. As soon as one of us misses a dodge at the wrong time, poof, game over. You’re one of the first mesmers I’ve ran into that uses a clone wall of shatters effectively. Nice to fight a quality mesmer; I don’t see very many.

I’m sure that’s because they expect 5x more to be culled behind you every time :P

Titan.3472:

Sad people can’t just play and keep their mouth close that would be fine for all to keep that thread clean but as always we wonder who has the biggest no???

I’ll be ur pot if ull be my kettle.

Junkhaus.4301:

Shown here is the coward mesmer. You bring shame upon your one man guild.
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Oh great, do I have to post the pictures of you making excuses in /tell about why you wouldn’t 1v1 me now? How cowardly :/

I think you misunderstood what I mean about using distortion. If you down someone in a 1v3 or more you are going to get extremely high damage while you try to stake them. If you drop time warp and distortion at the same time you can stake someone while fully invulnerable then blink the hell out of there. Using distortion at the right time during a stake is obvious, but that assumes that you aren’t going to be taking high damage the rest of the time. In a berserker build like the one in this guide, that’s not going to be the case.

FCGTAoE: No. When you blink you want to blink to max range, not a tiny bit behind it. This also makes it harder to do things like drop rams at the right distance.

I don’t think I’d ever use Mass Invis instead of Time Warp. Pulling off a full stake while my distortion shatter is still up is >>>>>>>> any possible battle resets.

It’d be best for CD to move up, get their faces stomped in, lose a bunch of fairweather players, and then move back down and balance out in the T4 bracket with even pop to Maguuma and EBay. Here’s to hoping that ever happens.

It’s too bad there aren’t two more servers with higher pop so that you’d get Mag / EBay / DH matchups in tier 5.

metalhead.9385:

Edit… I dont know why Shatter is censored… oh… S-H-A—T

LMFAO I figured it out. Was + Shatter has a word that is a lot like “Butt Hat” in it.

Maguuma and Ehmry Bay both need players. T4 is in a weird spot because two smaller servers will always be matched against one much larger server. Joining either of those servers will help round out the bracket.

Raincrow.1840:

zastari.1730:

I read this in Sun Tzu chapter 420 titled Stalling Enemy Points-Per-Tick by Corpse Bombing. Watch out, this guy is a master strategist and keeps up with the important literature.

This game isn’t real life my friend. There is no “Corpse Bombing” in Sun Tzu because in real life you can’t die more than once.

THIS IS A GAME. When we already hold 75% of the map there is no downside to zerging your garrison. It keeps you from splitting into smaller groups, retaking key positions, and spreading our numbers thin. We lose NOTHING in that anyone who dies can return to the fight.

The idea that this is a bad strategy, is, as much as you want to pretend it’s not… just more bitterness at losing.

The main thing you’re missing as well is that if we were to split into smaller groups and just sit around defending / upgrading, we’d be having less fun. I for one WvW to fight. Not to upgrade keeps for no reason.

You’re too busy reading Sun Tzu to know that a less fun strat means less people interested in coming into WvW. Maybe that’s part of your own server’s problem. Think about that.

Someone obviously didn’t make it to Sun Tzu chapter 421 — Avoiding Forum Flamebait by Not Dumping Five Paragraphs of Obtuse Whining at Every Opportunity

KamikazKid.4872:

This is just the same old song & dance I saw when I played Shadowbane. When winning claim inferior numbers, when losing claim enemy zergs, and if all else fails accuse enemy of cheating. I played on Maguuma before I transferred to CD & they have massive NA Prime time zerg in fact I’m betting the only reason we’ve made incursions to EB BL was because it was easier than fighting Maguma. Last night there was a queue for CD on both their bl maps so I spent a quiet night leveling instead. CD is seriously outnumbered by Maguma in NA Prime-time, we can’t compete yet curiously enough all their zerg does is defend. I don’t think I’ve fought more than 20 of ’em in the field but their keeps & towers are always chalk full of defenders.

Honestly, call us zerg all you like as long as it helps you sleep at night, while our Oceanic crew is all up in your base doing your keep lord.

When losing transfer to the winning server*

Fixed this for you, in your case.

Raincrow.1840:

GuardianOMS.8067:

It’s like saying: "Let’s just hack their keep, it works, we win. " Yea, it works (despite the obvious reasons for not doing it), but it’s not a respectful way to do it.

That’s ridiculous.

Running in a large group has absolutely zero relation to hacking.

What some of you seem to miss here is that CD is WINNING on the score board. Why not keep attacking that heavily defended garrison with our zerg? Even if we don’t take the place, we’ve kept your whole server bust for so long defending you end up losing for the week.

Just because you fail to see the point of what we’re doing doesn’t mean there isn’t one.

I read this in Sun Tzu chapter 420 titled Stalling Enemy Points-Per-Tick by Corpse Bombing. Watch out, this guy is a master strategist and keeps up with the important literature.

Today I took 4 invaders on a 15 minute round of hide-and-seek through blue keep ruins in eternal battlegrounds. sword/torch, staff, and blink+decoy+mirror images made for some confused (in many senses of the word) invaders. I’m pretty sure I killed them all once but couldn’t stop them from rezzing, they finally caught me after I blew blink+decoy too far away from a good corner.

- Hang out with an epidemic necro and watch zergs melt themselves after dumping 12 stacks of confusion on someone.

Secrets to dealing with a d/d ele: Not standing still when that big flashy lightning bolt comes running at you. Not standing still when they switch to earth and put their fist in the air for 20 seconds. Not standing still when they try to knee you captain falcon style when they switch to fire.

How do 3 people die to one at once? They’re either so glassy that you 2-hit them or so bunker that they never kill anything.

I transferred off of my old server because doing things like pulling a 24 hour shift commanding EB to keep stonemist from flipping were too exhausting. Take my advice — if you ever feel like this game has turned away from fun into work, quit caring and do whatever gives you the most fun in the game. For me that was transferring to FC and solo roaming for 1vX fights instead of caring what the points-per-tick was. If you aren’t on the winning server (and often if you are), trying to maximize your points all the time will burn you out extremely quickly.

ykyk.2740:

One must consider that these few months have been heavy-content months – Halloween week, Lost Shores, and soon-to-be-Wintersday. They can’t do everything at once. Sure there will be people who say it’s more important to make what’s already out there bug-free and enjoyable, but this is how they choose to prioritize and honestly you can’t fault them.

Yeah I can. Carebear kitten is kittening boring.

Hey DR commander with a legendary and the zerg of 10-15 that streamed in with you, thanks for the 2v15 you gave us at Southeast Camp on your borderlands. I think I set a new zergbusting record on my mesmer with that one.

If you’re downed maybe you should kill that doe sitting right beside you and rally instead of QQing about the inevitable stomp your unimaginative mind is about to get.

SteepledHat.1345:

I’m going to try to be respectful. Mesmers can only have 3 illusions up at a time. We can get an additional shatter on ourselves if we trait for it. (Grandmaster trait)

Tbh, if you really feel that mesmers are that OP you should probably just run. I get a lot of runners. God forbid you dodge when they shatter. Mesmer shatter build hasn’t been OP for a while. Or you can just hide in a keep where we can’t get to you….

No they can’t, they can have tons of clones up at once because as soon as you choose to shatter a clone they go out of your 3 active slots. I often have 5-6 clones up because one batch is running to a shatter while I have another group freshly set up.

I keep saying that mesmers are kittening awesome in this thread. My main is a level 80 mesmer and I can’t even level anything else because I love it too much. Quit complaining and learn to play your class.

I think maybe you all should rephrase this entire thread: Wall war tower sieges are kittening boring. If you have enough people to wipe their AoE off the wall then the rest of your group should kitten off and go roam somewhere else. If you don’t have enough people on the walls the battle is going to back up to cata / treb range really quickly and the siege turns into a lot more than smacking a button at a wall over and over.

Ahh I was wondering what happened there at the end. Yeah, I decided to drop my full berserkers gear and put on Carrion instead, it allowed me to keep my health rotation up with yours. I don’t think that fight would ever end legitimately.

Just wait till they find out that arrow carts hit those untargetable trebs too.

Bbbbut the arrows can’t shoot that high

Ralathar.7236:

Notice that when a small jab was taken at {PK} above I completely ignored it. Accepting it and moving forwards with a thick skin is part of fixing that rep.

Unless that jab is toward your commanders on EB apparently. I clicked that link in the ehmry.com forums and almost drowned in a sea of delicious QQ.

You’re right, realism in siege warfare in this game is key. Now back to building that catapult behind my keep gate….

Time to golem rush.

Hi Habib,

It seems that one of the main advantages of the Glicko rating system is that ratings can be adjusted quickly because of the large step differences between loss (0), draw (0.5) and win (1). However, the wAPercent function serves to centralize values around 0.5. While the wAGlickoScore transformation does help mitigate this around edge values in [0,1], it is linear in neighborhoods of 0.5. This seems to split matches into two possible directions of motion:

1) A blowout where one server wins heavily and causes all three servers to be adjusted strongly due to being at the “edge” of the wAGlickoScore transform (see HoD and ET)

2) A convergence as all servers have fairly close to the same score and are normalized near the 0.5 mean value.

Ultimately, this seems to result in a stratification between tiers; within-bracket matchups converge to the median glicko rating (unless there is a blowout) while between-bracket scores diverge. This seems unhealthy for overall matchups as people seem to prefer playing different opponents (even if the matches will be more uneven) rather than the same matchups over and over.

Because of these circumstances, has your team given consideration to increasing the volatility in waGlickoScore or changing how waPercent is calculated to create a more uniform distribution in [0,1] ?

Yes. One side effect of the Glicko triangle style rating system they use causes servers in the same bracket to cluster together in ratings. Notice that in the tiers that don’t have much switchups that the rankings are tight within-tier but large between-tier? That will just continue to get larger as servers stabilize until it requires sudden blowouts for a server to change tiers.

Glicko probably wasn’t the best idea for something that has to have combinatorial comparisons between each server in a bracket. At least there aren’t 4+ competing servesr in a bracket because then they’d really get jammed together.

No it’s cool man, just let us cap your home Borderland so that we can go push Crystal Desert ~together~ as BFFs <3

Rhyis.7058:

Sitting holed up in a keep successfully holding off a massive zerg is where the fun is at. PvD is pretty meh.

Keep defense is about the only fun WvW thing in this game. Too bad whenever you are outzerged the correct ~Sun Tzu~ answer is to go PvDoor down 5 things in the time it takes to nab your keep/garrison/whatever

Also most Mag commanders burned out because leading PUGs every day makes you want to die IRL.

It’s more to do that commanding is kittening boring and playing this game for points is also kittening boring. Press 2 at gate is exciting; hold 2 at treb holed up in tower is exciting; Press AoE button at tower wall every 30 seconds is exciting etc….

Everyone should quit caring about points. Go let the karma trains take turn flipping stonemist to power level all their alts to 80 then go open world PvP somewhere while the other bored karma trains put their noses in gates. Much more fun that way.

Props to a D/D Ele and Charr thief from LARP on Kaineng. I had awesome 10+ min long 1v1s with both of y’all today and they were hella fun.

Sword/Torch + Staff is extremely underrated for WvW roaming. Most importantly, using the torch 4 makes your enemies drop target if they have you marked. I use this to drop a decoy or mirror images, act like my clones, and knock them off their feet until I shatterbomb them into oblivion. I use a 20/20/0/0/30 spec similar to Osicat’s shatter build with blink, decoy, mirror images, and time warp. Armor set is full carrion’s. Making someone hit themselves for 4k a tick with confusion while you’re relaxing there stealthed from a torch never gets old

In small groups, you can drop chaos storm with staff, switch to torch and blast combo the field with the prestige to give AoE chaos armor as well.

Why do people think that the only thing to do at a tower / keep siege is AoE walls?

Screenshot attached to demonstrate a path that allows one to jump around Green Keep outer. One can walk along the gate trimming until they are at the corner of the spot I am facing. From there, use swiftness and jump over to the target location I am at in the picture.

Other locations (that I think have already been reported) are available upon request. I didn’t see any way to submit these privately, but I would prefer to if possible.

OldRodKS.9758:

Not sure if this is the case here or not, but I’ve noticed a similar thing in supply camps. Sometimes I don’t even get the green bar, no pop up message about capturing the camp, etc. But I happened to notice my xp bar moved as if I got the reward. So it’s like I got the reward but didn’t get the notification. Could that be the case here?

I’ve seen that happen and the camp is globally bugged when it occurs — no one gets a bonus. I’ve also occasionally had it bug out and not give me any bonuses in a BL until I jump maps or relog. The latter sounds like what is happening here.

Nuka Cola.8520:

iZerker is the reason to run a glass cannon build, now there’s none.

This is so wrong it’s not even funny.