the superior tactic is this THEY r a server that ppl wanna xfer to and ur server isnt
SO sick of ppl talking trash to server who get xfers like its there fault ppl like wt they see in them. maybe if mag didnt troll so much they would get more xfers. Issue with sos is that they collapsed after they lost in t1 and lost a bunch of guilds and r again lossing guilds so ppl r looking at them as a shaky server
I long to be a top tier server that you want to transfer to. I could read your beautiful prose all day.
Speaking of Blobs, this is the biggest Zerg I have ever seen. This is the first time post rendering patch that I’ve had rendering issues and skill lag. Was still a good fight @ mag garrison all night w/TC.
I honestly hope that no one is kittening about this match up, especially on the Mag side because all I heard in chat all last week was how boring the match up was when we had 80% of the map. Always gonna be someone to fight this week so enjoy it while it lasts.
Anyways hope TC brings that near fully q’d Zerg back out tonight
It’d be nice to have real match ups again. Getting tired of fair weathers coming out in a zerg and giving my server a bad name of running from field fights. KH thrives on field fights and hates zerging, but it’s hard to find fights when zergs steal the life from our opponents and they stop showing up.
It was nice to run into KH being split off from the CERN/TSL/PINK/whatever the hell zergs all night tonight. Props for not going full blob.
Because drp and PYRO weren’t running a big blob, oh wait….
I had to edit so much to get it to stop saying “kitten” lol
if you dont want us to blob up then dont blob up yourselves. you wont see us running together until you pull that junk.
If this week’s match up was DB-Mag-SOS, you guys will face the EXACT same problem. DB will just roll over all of you. So what’s the difference? What’s your next plan? Disperse DB also?
Same thing with any of JQ, BG, SOR or FA facing Mag and SOS. The exact same thing will happen. So what are you going to do disperse them all?
Give me a break please.
As far as low population servers are concern, none of the top 6 servers is any different. They will roll over you, period.
I do feel sorry for you guys. But it is all Anet’s fault. Instead of disperse the bigger server to fit your needs, why don’t you transfer yourself to a lower tier server so you can enjoy yourself there?
Oh look someone that bandwagoned from SBI to Kaineng and then Kaineng to TC. Please tell me more!
You guys were on the edge of transferring out of Maguuma remember? The only thing that “saved” Maguuma from collapsing was that well timed patch update. Although I am sure you guys are reconsidering right now. :P
D#RP has been in the process of transferring to Vizunah Square for the past 2 months, but we are very poor so it takes time.
It has been like this for several weeks, the winner out of our little group got a “promotion” facing a server from a higher “tier”, it happened to CD and Ebay, and now it seems that it’s Mag’s term. Oh and after a week against a higher “tier” server both CD and Ebay came back into our “tier”. We are facing Kaineng and Ebay this week, it will be a lot more fun than the week with Mag. And Mag can now prove that they are up to a challenge, right?
And YB can prove that they can stack might and run in circles around eternal doing god knows what for 5 hours. Everyone wins!!!!
Not sure which is worse, TC zerg or DB zerg. Hmmmm..
Worse gameplay? TC by a mile. I thought DB was kind of mediocre but after a night of TC my opinion has gone up quite a bit. On the other hand, TC seems to actually come out in the open and fight instead of hiding behind the nearest tower that contains a bevy of arrow carts.
It’d be nice to have real match ups again. Getting tired of fair weathers coming out in a zerg and giving my server a bad name of running from field fights. KH thrives on field fights and hates zerging, but it’s hard to find fights when zergs steal the life from our opponents and they stop showing up.
It was nice to run into KH being split off from the CERN/TSL/PINK/whatever the hell zergs all night tonight. Props for not going full blob.
If this week’s match up was DB-Mag-SOS, you guys will face the EXACT same problem. DB will just roll over all of you. So what’s the difference? What’s your next plan? Disperse DB also?
Same thing with any of JQ, BG, SOR or FA facing Mag and SOS. The exact same thing will happen. So what are you going to do disperse them all?
Give me a break please.
As far as low population servers are concern, none of the top 6 servers is any different. They will roll over you, period.
I do feel sorry for you guys. But it is all Anet’s fault. Instead of disperse the bigger server to fit your needs, why don’t you transfer yourself to a lower tier server so you can enjoy yourself there?
Oh look someone that bandwagoned from SBI to Kaineng and then Kaineng to TC. Please tell me more!
So where are those elite TC zergs that win open field outnumbered? TC was rolling over and dying to D$RP/PYRO repeatedly until we logged off and even more of them logged on.
Stacking with your back against a corner and falling over and dying is a great tactic, we obv have a lot to learn from top tier guilds like [CERN]
What I’ve learned is that when groups die to us even numbered, like TSL or PINK, they transform into one mega zerg so that they can skill lag us out and win with press button.
Mag why do you have to resort to glitching when you’re obviously going to win?
Yes the gate is glitched at the NW tower but does that mean you have to take advantage of it to kill our arrow carts?
Oh you mean the same gate that 90% of attacks show up as obstructed and that golems can’t hit? The broken-ness of it works both ways. Try complaining to ANet instead of Mag.
So basically CD runs away repeatedly and can’t cap an objective until they have a 2:1 advantage and YB still stacks their whole queue on RAM/CL and runs around in circles with some stacks of might for the whole night.
Hopefully we roll a better matchup next because this is a yawnfest. Still no quality players. I’ll give 20g to anyone who beats me in duels best of 5.
so CD and YB bring enough into our BL to make us outmanned and they spend most of their time stacking might, wandering around aimlessly, and chasing groups of 2 or 3 halfway across the map.
I feel like I’m fighting some real powerhouses here.
The trick is to burst them down in groups and not use any stealth to let them cap it back when they respawn. The hardest part is not getting jumped while doing this.
So Maguuma has at least 10 people on map. DB is attacking FA, who are holding Hills. There are no DB on Maguuma side of the map. Please Maguuma, please, explain why you would camp south hills and FA spawn instead of taking towers and Bay.
Edit: And now you took our Hills, which you will definitely not be able to hold. Please explain. Do you guys not understand how to win WvW? You realize any ppt still counts towards your total ranking?
WOW muguuma you are such kittens…. we are leaving you alone on DB BL and you decide to first spawn camp us and kill people running supply. Then you go ahead and take hills when we weren’t even attacking you. You guys really need to learn meta… yes I am angry So tonight when you go to sleep I hope you enjoy having your BL colored RED! Your lack of strategy and meta, as well as kittenry is appalling.
Thanks for the loot bags. I didn’t know you’d get so mad in the forums as well. I’m going to have to do this again.
FWIW the fact that you lost hills to about 15 of us is pretty hilariously bad on your part. Also dying to us while we have the outmanned buff a lot. gj gj gj I thought FA was the open field server?
Not mad, just astounded by the fact that you ignore a paper keep to troll us. I would just like to know what you guys were thinking. This is not the first time I have seen this. Do you guys go into WvW thinking of just taking camps and sentries or actually doing something productive?
My definition of productive:
Why Muguuma is not a tier 2 server…….. and once again [DERP]
You’re right. We need more warm bodies that can carry 10 supply and roll over and die whenever an opponent engages them in the open like [APS] or [RET].
So Maguuma has at least 10 people on map. DB is attacking FA, who are holding Hills. There are no DB on Maguuma side of the map. Please Maguuma, please, explain why you would camp south hills and FA spawn instead of taking towers and Bay.
Edit: And now you took our Hills, which you will definitely not be able to hold. Please explain. Do you guys not understand how to win WvW? You realize any ppt still counts towards your total ranking?
WOW muguuma you are such kittens…. we are leaving you alone on DB BL and you decide to first spawn camp us and kill people running supply. Then you go ahead and take hills when we weren’t even attacking you. You guys really need to learn meta… yes I am angry So tonight when you go to sleep I hope you enjoy having your BL colored RED! Your lack of strategy and meta, as well as kittenry is appalling.
Thanks for the loot bags. I didn’t know you’d get so mad in the forums as well. I’m going to have to do this again.
FWIW the fact that you lost hills to about 15 of us is pretty hilariously bad on your part. Also dying to us while we have the outmanned buff a lot. gj gj gj I thought FA was the open field server?
Not mad, just astounded by the fact that you ignore a paper keep to troll us. I would just like to know what you guys were thinking. This is not the first time I have seen this. Do you guys go into WvW thinking of just taking camps and sentries or actually doing something productive?
I never come to the defense of Maguuma, but as I understand it Mag folks don’t put much stock into PPT. So while their strategy may not be winning, I suspect they are trying to maximize their fun.
PvDooring down some empty towers while all the enemies are fighting each other on the opposite side of the map is exactly how I define fun.
So Maguuma has at least 10 people on map. DB is attacking FA, who are holding Hills. There are no DB on Maguuma side of the map. Please Maguuma, please, explain why you would camp south hills and FA spawn instead of taking towers and Bay.
Edit: And now you took our Hills, which you will definitely not be able to hold. Please explain. Do you guys not understand how to win WvW? You realize any ppt still counts towards your total ranking?
WOW muguuma you are such kittens…. we are leaving you alone on DB BL and you decide to first spawn camp us and kill people running supply. Then you go ahead and take hills when we weren’t even attacking you. You guys really need to learn meta… yes I am angry So tonight when you go to sleep I hope you enjoy having your BL colored RED! Your lack of strategy and meta, as well as kittenry is appalling.
Thanks for the loot bags. I didn’t know you’d get so mad in the forums as well. I’m going to have to do this again.
FWIW the fact that you lost hills to about 15 of us is pretty hilariously bad on your part. Also dying to us while we have the outmanned buff a lot. gj gj gj I thought FA was the open field server?
Haven’t seen much of PYRO on field so far. I did see a few ME and DARPs in a few blobs, but no stragglers. What’s happening to Maguuma?
we’ve been playing with FA. they invited us to their BL for tea this week.
and you know, having 80 DB respond to your 15man team at any hour of the day is no fun.
your NA is stronger than ours, it’s just your fairweathers.
Same happened to us last week when we fought BG and JQ. Though, I thought that was fun… continuous action, and lots of lootz! I’ll take the previous week’s match over this one any day.
Did you even bother to look at the ss JohnWiddin posted taken during NA primetime? Apparently not.
Most of us play in FA BL because the fights… actually exist. Rather than the DB strategy – are the numbers close to even? Run to nearest tower / backup. Are the numbers really uneven in my favor? OK push !!!!!
FA will actually come out in the open to fight. Ebay did as well. DB hides in towers until they have enough of a zerg to lag the map because they know all they can do in open field is roll over and die.
It shouldn’t be hard to keep up not much is changing. [EA] still sitting inside of keeps shooting mortars at one person because they all learned they fall over and die open field long ago.
Every time someone mentions killing something with larger numbers in DB it includes [Agg] somewhere. So what I’m basically hearing is one guild xferred in and gets kitten done and the rest of you ride on their coattails and/or turn over and die when they aren’t around. Am I missing anything?
CC nerf? Not really. That’s what stun breaks/condition removal are for. The only CC I really have an issue with is immobilized which bugs for me and I frequently cannot break where basically my skills won’t work because there is some kind of lag issue with immobilized where it resets me in the location after I used a stun break/condition removal.
Stability is a counter to mass CC, not stunbreak. Stunbreak is more like a GTFO if you are stunned. But it will do little about you immediately eating another stun. However stability is also able to be boon stripped. Not all classes have as much boon coverage as guardian or ele after all. Rangers and necros for example are much more vulnerable to being stripped of their stability.
In all of our testing and GvGs we have been unable to reliably strip stability off of the majority of a group with good boon control even when running a necro and boonstrip on shatter mesmer heavy group composition. If your group is not providing enough boons to maintain stability on your frontline during a push then you need to rethink your group composition.
FWIW, I’m part of one of those CC heavy Maguuma groups you’re running into. No, CC does not help the “zerg”, it helps the group with better group cohesion. We put heavy soft CC on groups with stability uptime and we dish hard CC on them the instant we see stability run out.
CC and positional control are pivotal parts of winning a group battle. They’re mostly well set to make an interesting meta. The only one that is kind of broken is immobilize. However, there are not any uncapped AoE immobilizes (unlike cripples, stuns, and pushes), and most of them have a short enough duration that traiting accordingly or using food/runes that reduce condition duration can largely mitigate the impact of it.
The only real issue I have had with CC in GW2 is that I wish stun break skills also broke immobilize. Not a huge deal, but that is the one change I have always thought I would like.
Pretty much this.
Stability is the counter to hard CC, and it is a rare enough boon that I feel that it’s in a good spot. You have to anticipate hard CC to get stability uptime to counter it. I am perfectly fine with immobilize going around stability because cripple / chill are typically too short duration in large AoE settings to pin down groups with good stability management. However, immobilize is too powerful in its current spot and making stunbreakers remove it would balance out CC pressure very well.
Looks like we are in the exact same position AR and BP was.
Sort of, except we are loving it! Thanks for the fun fights FA in our BL this morning. Taking garrison back was good times. We aren’t use to having that kind of army to push through. Mags BL today has been a blast too. That kitten zerg got the drop on us a couple times, and I find that impressive considering you were a larger group than us. You guys move fast and we have to be more on our toes with our area scouts.
wow glad to see fa packs a pvd zerg. i’m currently watching 40 people autoattack down reinforced doors on our nw tower because they got thwarted by two arrow carts. at least db’s pvd zerg had a double digit IQ.
I think the worst part about DB night-time is that 30 DB will randomly chase one person around the map until they get a kill which makes it impossible to actually get an interesting fight.
After about midnight I can forget actually getting a 1v1 or even a 1v2.
I feel sorry for anyone who doesn’t have multiple gear sets for zerging / roaming or a build with flexible traits that allows them to quickly swap between each style.
FYI we had one of our eles review the video of the fight we won. He didn’t see any spectators join in. Either way, excellent fights, we’re reviewing now and would like a rematch at some point.
I’m not really disappointed in the numbers, I’m disappointed that DB runs and turtles in the nearest tower unless they have an overwhelming numerical advantage. You’d think maybe DB could use this week to actually learn to PvP but somehow I doubt that’s going to be the case.
and this is what mags gonna feel at the end of the week
shield bash to the face
I don’t get it.
Slow down your keyboard warrioring, this is a different [RE] called Red Essence. Regardless, let’s GvG. I’m sure you won’t be posting the score after you fight us.
rp and PYRO weren’t running a big blob, oh wait….
