Guild Wars 2

ParaldaWind.4523:

stale.9785:

Bluesavanah.8562:

DevonCarver.5370:

I love bacon too. And, we are hustling to make this a reality. Just remember to listen to George Michael. “You’ve gotta have faith.”

There’s a fine line between having faith and just going to another game that treats it’s PVP players with some respect. TBH the WvW updates have set the game back instead of moving it forwards. Firstly the change to orange swords encouraged the current zerg playstyle, then the wxp changes further re-inforced this. Now you need a significant amount of supply just to siege a tower or keep because of the AC changes.

So given Anet’s track record recently I can’t imagine the introduction of ascended items to WvW will be anything other than a complete pain in the butt to get.

Seriously how hard can it be to throw the average WvW player a bone and put a vendor in that charges say 500 badges per piece, don’t go adding + gold or such being as you make next to nothing in WvW these days if you buy siege and do an upgrade or two.

The problem here is that I could get a full set inside of two weeks in WvW, whereas doing the laurel stuff, I’m looking at 6 months. Not what I would call balanced.

EDIT: the bold is because I personally am not a particularly good WvW player, and I still get badges at a rate that would result in my kitting out all my alts in ascended gear inside of a month or two. As opposed to few years of doing dailies.

I also firmly believe that the badge conversion should be comparable to dailies, instead of the fractal return. To get badges, you do nothing you wouldn’t otherwise in WvWvW. To get dailies, you do nothing you wouldn’t otherwise be doing in PvE. Fractals is a grind, grind, grind deal, and very much going out of your way to get something.

TL:DR make the conversion of badges to ascended a number high enough to resemble the reward of 1 laurel a day, with a bonus 10 per month. If you want ascended at the speed of grinding fractals, go grind fractals.

Anyone who claims to get more than 150 badges per 8 or so hours is either lying or in Red Guard.

I can fill a stack in approximately that time when we’re doing guild raids so…

Jski.6180:

Aytrix.4059:

No matter how much you love Anet or Guild Wars 2, they have and they will make many mistakes. You don’t have to kiss Anet’s kitten up and down the forums just because people are upset over a change made in game.

If you play WvW for the pvp, then you would realize how dumb this change really is. Siege should support the players, not the other way around.

Anyways, I support this thread and the guild VoTF for speaking up on this god awful buff to arrowcarts. Arenanet needs to man up and address this situation soon as WvW is losing what little fun was left in it.

If you play WvW for pvp your doing it wrong. WvW is comply different from the idea of PvP mainly because its not player vs player it is a world vs world.
I have got to say FA guilds are becoming major disappointments for me if this is the best we have as a world to go crying to Anet that its op and to fix it for us. It has not even been a full week of trying new things out and we as a world have ppl who want it to be made easier. I am ashamed to be on the same world as these guilds if this is the true view point of there guilds and not just a few random players from the guild.

If you’re playing this game you’re doing it wrong. This is World vs World not PvP. That means that your world needs to be as big as possible and you should be spending time on the forums recruiting for your World instead of doing fun stuff like… you know… killing people.

Can I break more pieces of their armor the longer I /dance on them?

Lara Croft.5807:

SOTG: since release still 10/10 regarding gameplay etcpp

Imo best MMO yet ever seen, start enjoying all the variations, facettes and diverse abilities within this game instead of adressing to ANet one QQ-post after another…

Also ANet should listen less to the opinions within these boards here and rather send out an individual short questionnaire to get an idea of how many people are happy with this lovely, exciting and amazing MMO?

BR
Lara

lol

Oh god yes please. I’d spend my life in EBJP, and I would be the richest bounty hunter in Tyria.

Caephire.5238:

JudgeD.5673:

Sorry, PYRO, no RE but we did have CNB, led by Sano the Great. Hope that worked too.

His nickname is Might Stacker Sano! Get it right! :P

If only CNB had some way to stack toughness or vit they might last for more than a microsecond in an engagement.

Boose.6201:

saiyr.3071:

You think that fight was 2 hours?

Time flies when you’re getting your can kicked by YB! DEEEEERPPPP

Is this what happens when YB comes out on top for their first time the whole matchup? Do I really have to go to YB BL on reset tomorrow and DARP the whole borderland to smithereens with a 25 man DURP raid to put the forum warriors back in their place? Tune in tomorrow to find out I guess. Too bad I wasn’t there to witness YB doing something right for the first time in their lives !!

It works on flat terrain. It undershoots on slight hills, overshoots on slight drops, and fails to really go anywhere on more than slight terrain changes.

Yeah but how’s your SEA / Oceanic presence

Basically if you’re a reasonably coordinated guild of 25 people then you’re going to be bored to death in anything below T4 if you put those players in the same place. Even in T3 once we get 25 of my guild in one location we faceroll whatever shows up until there’s an entire queued borderland trying to fight back. Regardless, Borlis Pass is probably the best in those tiers and would (maybe) lead to balanced fights.

I still recommend Sea of Sorrows though, you probably want to be T4/T3 with a guild that large. And if you do choose T3 please don’t choose Maguuma we don’t need another NA guild.

80-90 online at once? You’re going to screw up whatever match you go to in T5-T7. I’d suggest waiting a week, and if Kaineng is dying enough to go to T4, you’d probably want to go to Sea of Sorrows and bring them up to a well-rounded T3 server.

Nokaru.7831:

zastari.1730:

if they build a cata it’s in traited AC range. If they build a treb it can be counter-trebbed because guess who has the height advantage (hint: the person inside the tower).

Catapult is 4,000 range.
Traited AC is 3,500 range.

zastari.1730:

Please tell me more about your T7 tactics.

Heh!

How wide is the AoE radius on an AC? How wide is it after traited?

80% increased damage to all siege. I want to see zergs randomly land underneath a treb shot and turn into a wxp crater.

Gab Superstar.4059:

Get 20 people.

2 Catapults
1 Treb

Treb / cata down the wall.
Use treb to take out all arrow carts.
Use SR to stealth a group of 5 in to wreak havoc on the Arrow Carts remaining, giving your zerg enough time to get in there.

Oh wait, what was that? T1 meta revolves around removing as much of the player skill component as possible? Hmm. Tough luck. This change will be awesome in lower tiers.

“Treb / cata down the wall”

If they build a cata it’s in traited AC range. If they build a treb it can be counter-trebbed because guess who has the height advantage (hint: the person inside the tower).

Please tell me more about your T7 tactics.

Nordic Natedog.4360:

Getting 25 in chaos boosts your condition damage even more than going to 30 in illusions (another +5% of toughness goes to condition damage).

I too run with over 6000 toughness on my build.

Rinzler.8072:

Solution? Mesmer #1 attack on greatsword. Attack the nearest object near arrow carts (Wall, door, player, etc).

The LASER will destroy everything near your target, LOS not needed.

I haven’t been able to get beam tech to work like this on siege after the patch. I believe it’s fixed.

Note that with the Arrow cart range change, the max arrow cart range will basically always be within the min treb range which essentially negates attacking with catapults. There are no longer sweet spots (like in the water at SW tower) to place catas that will avoid both.

If you want the min/max breakpoint for heavy zerker with enough survivability to get out of a glass thief burst it looks something like:

Armor: Mix of Knight / Soldier
Weapons: Zerker
Runes: 6x Ruby orbs
Sigils: Whatever you desire
Trinkets: Full Zerker/ Full Ruby Orbs

This gives you the cheapest crit dmg % bonuses on orbs / trinkets while giving you some survivability on armor.

They should just make hitting a guard instantly contest any structure. A guard gets hit, they relay information! You want to do something stealth? Use catapults or a treb to hit walls and avoid guards. Wall caps are slower anyway.

How playing without an AoE cap would go: A necro casts one well on a blob and then the server crashes due to how they handle condition stacks on the network.

Siege Escalation:

0 defenders = flame ram
defender builds a cart → Attackers build catapult/treb
defender builds a treb → Attackers try to build a treb. It won’t work. The End.

The only fortifications that are going to be captured after this change are:

- Fortifications that are undefended
- Fortifications that the attacking side can gain a height advantage on, i.e. Anzalias, Bay.

The siege arms race ends at trebs and whoever has the height advantage. Before this change it was sometimes advantageous to close range on an enemy when under pressure, i.e. move from a catapult/treb to a golem or ram. Now that’s never going to be the case.

lordkrall.7241:

zastari.1730:

You’re wrong here. Hitting guards and no gate does not contest the structure. Doing any damage to a gate or wall triggers it. I know this because I’ve contested lots of keeps by hitting the gate with one AoE or throwing a jar of bees at the wall (back when that worked).

Regarding these changes, it makes scouting useful, but it also makes dealing with golem orgies actually feasible. If someone calls it out when the golems hit a gate you have 30 seconds to get there and man the newly OP arrow carts.

I am fully aware that doing actual player damage to the wall/gate does trigger it, but I am quite certain that ONLY hitting it with ram doesn’t.

Sorry I misunderstood you. That’s interesting and I’m going to have to try it now.

lordkrall.7241:

VOLKON.1290:

Pretty sure it does, can you verify that? We’ve peeled the guards off a gate without setting off the “X”, but the moment the ram starts hitting it swords go up.

It would be kind of silly that a thief can hit it with a butter knife and set off the “X” but a flame ram ripping through it can’t.

And you are absolutely sure no one used an AoE or a auto-attack and hit the gate? I have seen quite a few cases both when our server have breached the gates without x and also situations where the enemy have already been inside when the x turns up.

You’re wrong here. Hitting guards and no gate does not contest the structure. Doing any damage to a gate or wall triggers it. I know this because I’ve contested lots of keeps by hitting the gate with one AoE or throwing a jar of bees at the wall (back when that worked).

Regarding these changes, it makes scouting useful, but it also makes dealing with golem orgies actually feasible. If someone calls it out when the golems hit a gate you have 30 seconds to get there and man the newly OP arrow carts.

Littlefeather.8623:

On a side note, this is a video game, with virtual characters. I sincerly do not understand why people log off after one wipe, this is a problem with every server. But if you have no sense of fortitued or constitution, dont even waste a slot in WvW please.

That’s mostly a side effect of playing on flavor-of-the-month servers. I bet you’ll start seeing a lot less of that now that you have nothing but the real Kaineng players and not the server hopping quitters.

Littlefeather.8623:

Feels like another Darkhaven again for some of us RE…

Honestly, what do you expect to happen when you transfer to a bandwagon server? I don’t get why you all jumped off of Darkhaven just because ICoa left. DH was pretty stable with Mag and in a good tier at the time. The matchup we’re currently in seems to be one of the more even ones between the tiers, but of course anyone is free to jump ship and get a free 1800 gem ride to whatever the green server of the week is.

At least leave it on for teammates, that way I know which rally bait to deliver to an enemy zerg then retreat.

So you have boring battles in T1 and go to T8 to “train”, have more boring, faceroll-ey battles up to T2, get bored in T2 battles that seem to be pretty even from the outside, then go to T1 expecting to… not be bored?

Maybe you should just admit that you think the game’s boring and quit doing the tier shuffle. The “volatility” column in the Glicko listings will thank you.

saiyr go to bed. If your staff ele is sleepy for the next DARP raid I’m gonna bee angry at the whiffed static fields.

Kaineng needs NA, not SEA. If they got a bit more NA presence this matchup would be awesome.

Props to the guilds with a spine that are staying on Kaineng to bring the heat in T3. There have been some awesome battles today, thanks for the fun in Mag BL this morning [XF]!

T3 is the last tier that isn’t 24/7 megablob zerg party. I like being able to press a button on my skill bar and have the skill go off. Although RAM/CL learned that the counter to me running glamour is to put so many people in one place that I can’t get feedback to go off.

Oh cute the YB megazerg is back on our BL. Have you all figured out that the only way to get kills is to outnumber mag 2:1? On the other hand, it was kinda neat how fast you dropped when we pull in people from other BLs.

Perceptor.7189:

idari.4273:

i have to say again if any chilean player want to join a pro wvw feel fre to join RP, we have cookies and we’re full of WIN.

Thanks, I would much rather you all stay free lootbags on your server rather than free rally bait on ours.

Le Rooster.8715:

We need NA guilds to help balance out our coverage in anticipation for our return to tier 3 which we would need to be able to give Magz and Yak’s a run for their money during NA

If you give either of us a run for our money in NA you’d run over us in the morning with your Oceanic. How about we trade?

Next time you’re going to flip 0 keeps in Mag BL, please don’t bring a whole queued map and place them on one spot. While killing YB repeatedly is fun, killing them with immense amounts of skill lag isn’t.

alcopaul.2156:

RP, D_ERP and iLL made an impression on me. On their full teams, they always wipe Kaineng’s motley zerg. Happened on the first hours @ Yak’s Bend borderlands.

Certainly good at spiking.

I commend our Commander from FBA who painstakingly led us even we were spawning after some wipes. So patient and encouraging. The heart is there yeah.

So you were the one rocking the MATH tag. I yelled “Betrand Russel represent” into our mumble chat and everyone called me a nerd

D|ERP is enjoying the fights so far. We’re mostly terrorizing YB until they learn to open field fight. Although, it gets kind of depressing when 15 of us roll out into 30 YB and Yaks do a 180 and run straight away. The few times they’ve actually charged towards us the fights have been quite fun.

Kain NA seems really haphazard so far and hasn’t been very fun to fight. I didn’t quite make it into SEA primetime last night but it seems like yet another wash and our lone oceanic commander will probably drink himself into a coma this week.

Artention.3510:

Comprissent.3856:

32 minimum in this screenshot, I couldn’t even screenshot all of them in one go.

Real respectable

The best part is the:
“im scared

OH MY GOD"

in chat. I LOL’d. Always wanted to know what the enemy thinks when BP attacks.

“Where are the other 80?”

or

“Oh that’s odd I didn’t see them building golems outside of spawn for 30 minutes prior this time”

lol @ glamour mesmer running without a focus.

Can FA please shed a few players and join Maguuma in the ~Forever Roaming~ tier. We will all reach enlightenment and play a full week without dropping a single piece of siege (other than superior ballistas of course).

Old CD were emote pros. I even learned some new things playing against them the first time… Like going up behind someone who is dead underwater and tapping back and forth to hump them.

Incidentally, I didn’t see any of that the last time we played them post-exodus. I guess there’s a high correlation between emote spammers and fairweather players.

Unless the owner of the TS service gets a message from their ISP that their IP address has been null routed, you were not the target of a DDoS. Period. End of Discussion.

wish.3102:

The best counter is to split into groups of 9, and attack everything they own at the exact same time. I say 9 because this would allow you to drop 3 rams on every gate they have. But every group needs to drop its 3 rams and be using them at the exact same time, that way the massive zerg can only take out 2-3 groups and the others will take whatever theyre trying to take. This is of course assuming they own a lot of stuff.

Rams take 40 supply not 30. Also superior rams work better and take 50 supply. I guess in JQ you never have to worry about this because every tower gets zergballed anyway?

The best thing you can do is split into a 10-man group or two and slap dolyaks then filp supply camps when the PPT timer gets < 5:00. You stall all upgrades until you get more coverage and you get 10 points per yak. Bonus points if you can get a crew of solo people to contest as many structures as possible and keep the zerg endlessly roaming around.

Then once you’re done with that you can reflect and cry to yourself that the best strategy in this PvP game is to do the ~Sun Tzu~ kitten and attack NPCs instead of other players.

Shiren.9532:

The further away you get from the top tiers, the less existent this problem is. I spent all weekend in WvW and I was frequently on maps where I was taking towers and siegeing keeps with 20 or less people and the defense was similair. People think they need to be in higher tiers to experience the best WvW has to offer. In my experience, WvW is the most fun in the mid to lower tiers where you can get a small to medium sized guild together and take on an entire map with the aid of the handful of allies who come and go.

You had your chance to solve this problem when they had free transfers to medium population servers.

So your idea of fun is PvDoor? That’s exciting please tell me more.

Watching angry gamers try to understand how the internet works really is an incredible thing.

Video game karma train war is extremely serious business I’m going to buy a botnet to UDP flood your teamspeak host. Yes !!!! PPT lead is mine !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DARP likes to roleplay on TC with the cuties in Divinity’s Reach but if you saw someone with that tag in WvW it wasn’t us.

Windmoor.9834:

Just 1 thought here…

What if instead of removing the AoE limit, but impose the same limit to Buffs as well. only 5 peeps get swiftness buff, only 5 peeps get healing buff…ect.

I may be wrong here, but I’m sure that more then 5 receive the benefits from these skills.

That used to be the case for a lot of skills (guardian altruistic healing, warrior shout heals), but they were changed to be AoE capped to 5. It’s what broke up stacking and portal-stack chaining. They are all capped to 5 now. The only ability I know that hard exceeds the 5 limit beyond CC skills like Static Field and Sanctuary is Mass Invisibility.

New WvW meta: Run around the map and drop 5 ballistae every 1000u. Move in a zerg ball and stack and spam 4 whenever you encounter an enemy.

Glad to see Rebel has moved from posting essays in the GW2 forums to posting them in Yaks Bend forums.

scooby treat.8420:

Thats not how you stop those types of zergs FYI, they WILL have stability, might and probably retaliation as well, only way to win is to be the bigger, badder ball of death…..Good luck with that by the way personally I don’t like the tactic but it’s certainly effective.

So open with boon removal / boon strips then chain CC them? Outzerging them seems like the boring way to do it without using your head. Necros and shatter mesmers can safely rip all of their boons right off of them at the start of a fight.

Bern.9613:

GuardianOMS.8067:

I know we’re apparently the troll server (no idea how THAT happened)

How big was the one that got away?

It took 7 days to accrue 5 pages when it was DB/YB/SoS. Three pages and counting, 40 hrs later, with Mag in the mix. Really wish this would stop. So many useless posts to sift through.

Let’s get into some big metaphysical debate about what constitutes usefulness on an internet forum post.