Guild Wars 2

Teamkiller.4315:

So I noticed that as soon as PRO showed up with 20 people the 8 OG members that were in DB borderlands disappeared.

You guys never seem to like to fight fair. Oh, here’s another pic of a dead OG member.

OG left DB BL because the action died. Also 20 v 8 = fair fight? Well against PRO, it probably is….

grats FA for finally pushing through on our map after everyone went to sleep.

LOCO.1785:

Columba.9730:

I’ve yet to see what thieves give up for survivability, particularly in wvwvw.

That’s simply because you refuse to be reasoned with and your mind is already made up (your post history is a dead give away).

I roll a 30/30/30/30/30 thief they are pretty good you should try it some time.

Sword / Torch + Staff mesmer
D/D Ele

Frontliner with speed + Burst DPSer. Both have solid escapes (mes has stealth, ele has speed)

Too Frisky.9165:

Columba.9730:

Well your central argument is that thieves are not popular in tournament play. I simply point out that this isn’t about tournament play.

That was definitely NOT my central argument whatsoever. My central argument was that thieves are one of the easiest classes to outplay and I listed 3 scenarios that every player will run into when playing a thief. I simply added the tournament statement to further the statement that thieves honestly suck; most people are too busy whining to learn how to counter them.

Bingo. Everyone complains about thieves being unstompable but they don’t even realize that they can get 2 stake attempts off before #3 is active (because they are really slow and bad at pressing buttan). This whole thread is a basic L2P issue.

Good job DB for wrecking the FA forum warriors at briar with a clever use of game mechanics!!!

You need to try a signet + retaliation build on your mesmer to understand the full power of your weapons.

I think they should be removed because they have an unintended side effect of creating many duplicate posts that clutter up the WvW forum.

Vizier.3164:

zastari.1730:

I like these items they are a stunbreaker check. Didn’t come to WvW with any stunbreakers ready? Time to die!

Bullkitten, these items when spammed stun you more then once.

Last night I was getting spammed with it, had to use both stunbreakers, but they just keep reapplying it.
Steam was comming out of my ears, getting stunned for 30sec and being killed by some skillless player is not what I call fun.

All you idiots that say “Keep it” Obviously have not been on the receiving end of these items.

I consider it a game breaking exploit. It needs to go, yesterday.

I ran into NNK spamming gears all night last night. Things I did that worked:

- Spam gears back at them (lol!)
- Stability
- Mesmer Sword 3 and Sword 2 their face in. People with consumables sure do get panicky when the damage and confusion set in!

Having full groups spamming gears is pretty stupid though! I think a 30s cooldown on these would be great.

Real answers:

1) I have enough time to respond to contested crosses on a fully upgraded camp if I have waypoints at the nearest keep. This isn’t the case with un-upgraded camps

2) Solo roamer deterrents. That solo thief / mesmer / ele is going to walk right on by a camp when they see an 82 zealot in it

3) Actual defense. Zealots and cabalists hurt like hell. In a close fight, having the guards re-pop will typically allow you to clutch a victory with the added firepower you get.

If your camps are getting hit by 10+ though, then yes, it won’t matter.

If those level 82 cabalists and zealots aren’t annihilating the 3 people trying to take you out in the middle of the camp, I guess you need to be carrying more than zero CC abillities because those things hit like freight trains.

I like these items they are a stunbreaker check. Didn’t come to WvW with any stunbreakers ready? Time to die!

ower.9143:

zastari.1730:

ower.9143:

zastari.1730:

ower.9143:

dreztina.4820:

Really got to hand it to FA. They don’t have much in the way of individual skill, but the sheer size of the zergs they run makes it not even matter. Really tough opponents.

hahahahaha the D/D ele wants to talk about skill. Too bad we only have one opponent again this week, DB. Maybe if you guys spent as much time in the game as you do kitten talking on the forums and crying about everything under the sun you wouldnt be a joke and bad at video games.

Oh well, at least DB still puts up great fights and are worthy opponents.

hahahahaha FA zergling thinks that all it takes to win at D/D ele is press button. Too bad they are scared of engaging in any sort of PvP and would rather plink at doors all night long in balls of 30 than split up and find any sort of interesting fight.

sorry kiddo.. hardly a zergling, but then again to crybabies like you, anything over 4 people is a “zerg”. I’m actually rolling solo at the moment and laughing at the magoobers who just fumble their fat fingers on the keyboard. Keep being bad at video games though and thanks for the badges.

That’s nice so when would you like to duel?

never, this isn’t WoW kiddo.. i’m flipping camps and actually contributing to the effort of the server to win. you guys should try that.. wouldn’t be come in last ever week and they having to pull the ole’.. “well.. we want to go down so we’re not trying and don’t care” routine. Funny, for not caring you sure turn out for the first or second day and try ever so hard. Have fun with your carebear dueling though.

Ahh so the badges you’re thanking us for are coming from camp supervisors? Talk a big game and get allergic to PvP whenever it’s time to back up your forum bravado. Standard.

Edit: kiddo

ower.9143:

zastari.1730:

ower.9143:

dreztina.4820:

Really got to hand it to FA. They don’t have much in the way of individual skill, but the sheer size of the zergs they run makes it not even matter. Really tough opponents.

hahahahaha the D/D ele wants to talk about skill. Too bad we only have one opponent again this week, DB. Maybe if you guys spent as much time in the game as you do kitten talking on the forums and crying about everything under the sun you wouldnt be a joke and bad at video games.

Oh well, at least DB still puts up great fights and are worthy opponents.

hahahahaha FA zergling thinks that all it takes to win at D/D ele is press button. Too bad they are scared of engaging in any sort of PvP and would rather plink at doors all night long in balls of 30 than split up and find any sort of interesting fight.

sorry kiddo.. hardly a zergling, but then again to crybabies like you, anything over 4 people is a “zerg”. I’m actually rolling solo at the moment and laughing at the magoobers who just fumble their fat fingers on the keyboard. Keep being bad at video games though and thanks for the badges.

That’s nice so when would you like to duel?

Osicat.4139:

Imo a 4 clone burst is more effective than stomp vs alot of classes.

/Osicat

…When running a power+crit based shatter build

Reiven.2543:

On an offhanded suggestion to the OP is why don’t you try to PvP in the JP with some friends? You yourself suggested that PvP players have a better “gear of mind” which also helps in other areas of the game so maybe you could take this time to become a better player? who knows you may be able to get revenge on those dirty campers its certainly a satisfying feeling.

PvE players don’t play video games to get better. They play them to watch a progress meter slowly fill up over and over.

ower.9143:

dreztina.4820:

Really got to hand it to FA. They don’t have much in the way of individual skill, but the sheer size of the zergs they run makes it not even matter. Really tough opponents.

hahahahaha the D/D ele wants to talk about skill. Too bad we only have one opponent again this week, DB. Maybe if you guys spent as much time in the game as you do kitten talking on the forums and crying about everything under the sun you wouldnt be a joke and bad at video games.

Oh well, at least DB still puts up great fights and are worthy opponents.

hahahahaha FA zergling thinks that all it takes to win at D/D ele is press button. Too bad they are scared of engaging in any sort of PvP and would rather plink at doors all night long in balls of 30 than split up and find any sort of interesting fight.

Eliyahu.1467:

zastari.1730:

Herr der Friedhoefe.2490:

Thief still needs a team to stomp/AoE, but they all still tell you l2p. It’s a great situation we have here.

Thief is easier to stomp than mesmer since the mesmer disappears when they use their position reset. L2P.

-A mesmer

No way.

How you stomp a mesmer:

1. Begin stomp. Mesmer disappears.
2. Wait for the second mesmer to appear with the BIG kitten RED ARROW OVER HIS HEAD.
3. Stomp the mesmer with the red arrow above his head.

Done.

Also, if a mesmer screws up and uses his 2 skill too early, there’s a good chance he’ll reappear before your first stomp has finished and since he doesn’t teleport far enough, you’ll kill him.

I can blink stomp most thieves on their first ability usage. Most of them teleport behind the person stomping them and to the left or right. If I teleport backwards at max distance for their ability I almost always get the initial stomp. If that’s not the case, I stomp them before they can use their second ability.

Mesmers on the other hand require getting lucky with a fakeout on their ability. I stomp, break the channel, and then stomp again hoping they try to relocate right when I start the second stake for an easy blink stomp. If this isn’t the case, I have to wait for the second one to reappear and walk over and stake them.

This is a faster stake on a thief than a mesmer every single time. When fighting 1vX this means I get less DPS dealing with a thief than a mesmer. L2P.

Herr der Friedhoefe.2490:

Thief still needs a team to stomp/AoE, but they all still tell you l2p. It’s a great situation we have here.

Thief is easier to stomp than mesmer since the mesmer disappears when they use their position reset. L2P.

-A mesmer

Why were you getting FA badges in DB BL as a Maguuma player?

teleport if you’re a mesmer or ele, steal if you’re a thief. I’m sure some other classes have ways to deal with it too. If you know they have the in-place cloak up then break your stake channel halfway through and restart it to fake them out and have the stake go off after they reappear.

dreztina.4820:

Maguuma got green all over. T4 here we come.

Join the dark side and gear spam down the FA/DB zergs with me until we reach glorious T4~

jportell.2197:

Mag guild tag STRM you have been reported. You were exploiting the bugged invuln spot in SW supply on DB BL. Either take your lickings or get off our map… That stupid fight lasted too long and when your chips were down you just went to your invuln spot where you could still do damage and then get back up there if we were pushing. This is beyond unacceptable.

Reported for exploit accusations on the forum. Please keep this thread civil and don’t degrade it into childish mudslinging or else it’ll probably get closed.

dreztina.4820:

Man, if there’s one thing this matchup has taught me, it’s never try to 1v1 anyone from PRO. No matter how much it looks like they want to 1v1, it’s just bait for the rest of their guild. You’d think I’d stop by now, but I keep trying, but it always ends the same.

Try the EB JP. Two [PRO] thieves threw themselves at us at least 20 times and never brought reinforcements I was amazed at how broke they must have been by the end!!!

You’re trying to get the Gift of Battle for your legendary, and you’re complaining about having to fight people? Go join up on a commander icon and actually play WvW. You’ll get a lot more badges, you’ll get camped a lot less, and you may actually learn how to play your character beyond press button get loot.

Cactus.2710:

Straegen.2938:

Cactus.2710:

Nethod.7068:

Sometimes i think que is bugged, both for numbers on my side, as well as numbers on opposition. Somehow it seems like either side is far outnumbering and It doesn’t appear legit. Can we possibly get a numbers in zone query command for all sides?

For that to happen ANet would have to accurately know how many players from each server were on the map. There seems to be considerable evidence that they don’t.

There has to be some numbers otherwise capping and out manned buff wouldn’t be possible.

I didn’t say they didn’t have numbers. I said they weren’t accurate. Go read the several forum threads on broken queues if you don’t agree.

but they have to be accurate some dev did a query against teh db once how can you argue with that!??

It got worse about the same time the improved* culling system was released.

*kitten

Kerithlan.1659:

zastari.1730:

Spencer.1386:

zastari.1730:

Maybe try bringing a stunbreaker and learning to dodgeroll? I applaud people who figure out good PvE items for WvW, it brings some nice variety.

You applaud them until it happens to you. Unless you enjoy losing control of your character and watching as an item clearly not intended for pvp is used to kill you while you have no ability to fight back.

I’ve been on both ends of a gear slinging fight. I won the one on the receiving end (probably because I’m just an OP mesmer but whatever). First I used decoy to break stun, followed up with torch 4 to stealth and get close range. Pop torch 4, sword 3 and 2 + mirror images mind wrack shatter. Dead thief, no problem.

Out of pure curiosity, what if you were against a bunker rather than a thief?

Not trying to argue one way or the other, just looking to figure out if that solution (or one similar to it) is one you’d tag under, “know what you’re doing, this guy clearly doesn’t.”

1) Spam gears back at them. I have more stunbreakers and probably am better at dodging

2) Dump 12 stacks of confusion on them and make them do something to mitigate it or keep losing 4k hp each time they throw a gear.

Spencer.1386:

zastari.1730:

Maybe try bringing a stunbreaker and learning to dodgeroll? I applaud people who figure out good PvE items for WvW, it brings some nice variety.

You applaud them until it happens to you. Unless you enjoy losing control of your character and watching as an item clearly not intended for pvp is used to kill you while you have no ability to fight back.

I’ve been on both ends of a gear slinging fight. I won the one on the receiving end (probably because I’m just an OP mesmer but whatever). First I used decoy to break stun, followed up with torch 4 to stealth and get close range. Pop torch 4, sword 3 and 2 + mirror images mind wrack shatter. Dead thief, no problem.

Opc.4718:

zastari.1730:

Maybe try bringing a stunbreaker and learning to dodgeroll? I applaud people who figure out good PvE items for WvW, it brings some nice variety.

So, you’ve used your 3 stun breakers up, 2 dodges, and 10 sec stability, and the guy still has a stack of spikefruit left kiting you at range. Now what?

I killed him in between clicking another one from his inventory and doing the slow kitten throw animation.

Alternate answer: I pulled a cog out of my inventory and chain stunned him back.

I think Bunzy is looking for guilds that move in groups of less than 30.

Maybe try bringing a stunbreaker and learning to dodgeroll? I applaud people who figure out good PvE items for WvW, it brings some nice variety.

And so the prophet said, “Yea, the other two servers shall go to sleep. And they did.”

Hexin.5603:

Hackuuna.4085:

DER|P has presence at most organized duels and every one of them (until this one) our members are respectful and will always respect random duels out in the open. The reason this one got into a brawl is because of the lining up system.

Tip for future fight clubs: people have limited play time and do not want to be sitting around waiting 1 hour to get a fight in. Whoever thought that was a good way to run a fight club hopefully will realize that we are all adults and this isn’t pre-school. Every single person should have a chance to fight and all the areas in a fight club should have fights going.

So let me understand how this works. Your adults, who look for a fair chance to play and believe in equal opportunity for those to have a chance to fight.

The rules were laid out in writing well prior to the event, and because you did not agree with them, and choose to ignore the /whisper and get in contact with the organizers, it’s better to break the rules? Even downing random people who come to watch there friends or father?

Pro Tip: Why not just whisper or get on the voice comm together and say "hey guys, we have a lot of people here, and waiting 10 minutes between fights even longer is incredibly lame/boring. Can we set up a couple arenas to help speed it up we want to duel, not watch?

It’s a valid suggestion, and probably would have gone over better. We’ll take your advice and suggestion on here, and maybe if your true to your sentiment and retaining the respectful duels, we can have it be more successful next time? If there’s 10 people per group… break out 2 arena’s more … 3 etc. Maybe … communicate even a quick 1 liner with them so both voice comms can arrange it.

Nah, I like the way we did it. The duels were a lot more fun once Rethesis was kicked out.

Good job on the Fight Club [RE]!!! It was really boring so we decided to liven it up a bit. Can you all let me know the names of some of your really good duelists because the few I had in there were 100% snore fests?

Props to the charr d/d ele that I had a sweet duel with by west keep on mag bl. It’s a shame door machine had to come interrupt round 2. I did figure out how to get away from WM’s zerg though… down one and then run while they all drop down and rub them to res them back up.

Props to [RISE] for being the first Kaineng guild to bother with duels this whole matchup. 0 Props to door machine for calling in enough people to make us outmanned on home BL whenever they see half their numbers show up. I would really like to hear some broken english justification for why they needed to bounce from SBI to tier 8. The only answer I can figure out is too many players not enough doors.

Zoel.9154:

Oozo.7856:

Littlefeather.8623:

Oozo.7856:

Littlefeather.8623:

Oozo.7856:

Littlefeather.8623:

Oozo.7856:

Acelerion.6820:

Does kaining run any small group stuff or is it all for the realm business?

Kaineng on an individual basis is one of the least skilled servers we have gone up against. Maguuma is much better in terms of individual skill overall.

But, what Kaineng has that Maguuma doesn’t are multiple no-skill 30-40 mobile guild zergballs. And, they’ve picked up even more of this cheese in the last couple of days.

Thats a general blanket statement If I ever seen one ;p lol

Maguuma knows about RE already, and I can vouch that WM is top shelf WvW hands down. There are other great guilds I have seen, and some new ones which I have not seen as well. I will admit that Kaineng PUG’s can you a little bit of guidance, not for WvW, but for WvW in higher tiers is what I mean. But I can tell you, Kaineng PUG’s are willing and eager to learn.

We’ve beaten RE and WM is open field fights with comprable numbers on both sides. The only thing that has killed us are the 30+ man zergballs that Kaineng runs. We run a max of 15, but usually have 10 or less.

Oh not this again…lol

onesies and twosies dont count, on either side friend. I wont play tic for tac but I will say in higher tiers 30 man zergs are not big zergs at all, and 30 man zergs wont do anything to some of the zergs I have seen when I faced YB/CD/FA a while back. 10-15 man teams are great, but when faced in higher tiers those numbers are just loot bags in all honesty, sorry to be frank.

Yes, please proceed to the upper teirs where zerg groups can run around and autoattack their way to success. It’s an excellent place for zerglings to play together.

Please come to Fight Club when we host it Its a great PvP style event for every one. PvP skill wise, that is where we can showcase everything, but to win in WvW, numbers and coverage, those are key elements, sorry to say but 5-15 PvP experts can not win against 30+ man zergs in WvW.

PUG zergs, yes. Guild zergs, no. If we cared about server ranks we would have left DR a long time ago. We want balanced fights and although you aren’t personally responsible for the crap we’ve been getting – I’ll take it out on you, nonetheless.

It sounds like WvW isn’t for you. If you want even man odds then you want spvp. The only selling point of WvW’s pvp is that you can put together a complex group composition with a lot of moving parts.

Oh look someone who has never played sPvP

One time this week while zergherding we somehow kept swiftness up and everyone had 10+ stacks of might when we rallied to bomb a zerg. Then I realized there were like 15 [D|ERP] tags there.

I mean we can talk about superior tactics all day when our transfer commanders are saying “omg treb at NW tower hitting garrison what do” (actually they don’t say anything they just stand there confused), but the truth is 90% of what we did this match was zerg over the top of kitten.

Edit: And zerg onto Do It Two It’s portals. We have some of the best mesmer in the game.

ParaldaWind.4523:

cesmode.4257:

I actually have a question about..future WvW for servers like IoJ and even Yaks. So maguuma obviously doesnt belong with us. I think Yaks vs IoJ vs someone else would be decent. However, curious if the wvw experience would be..better or not. Maguuma is fielding what seems to be 200 on a map or something. I rarely see any yaks on our BL, and it doesnt look like they do a lot on others. I dont know exact numbers for IoJ, but it cant be more than 100 or so. With populations hurting on some of these servers, would we be able to spread out enough to cover at least two BL effectively….would we be spread too thin? Zergs of 5 taking a keep? lol.

Curious to see how it all shakes up once the balancing and ranking is all set.
Curious to see if we will still see 40 man zergs.

Unfortunately, and I mean no disrespect, I think this is a perfect example of one of the problems I see with Yak’s Bend. Your mentality is so rooted in numbers, that you guys seem to give up and forget strategy.

I tried to get some pugs to bomb and kite a zerg. The results were hilarious(ly bad).

40 man zergs are not the ideal play style, and they are not at all necessary. I run a guild that at most fields 15 people, and there is rarely a tower we can’t take, and a keep we can’t pressure. If I could have one 40 man zerg or two 15 man organized groups, I would go with organization any day. We learned, as a server, how to do this because we were so often outmanned. We know siege placements, work together, know how to ninja, and have some of the best mesmers in the game. These are more important than numbers any day.

Every time yaks brought a zerg this matchup we just rolled it with a bigger zerg. I think the one exception was reset night when it was queued on both sides. Zerg server etc……..

At least you made it out without dying!

Ordibble.3092:

zastari.1730:

If you join YB you’ll be in a zerg; don’t believe his lies. Read my 1st post in this thread, it’s really all you need to know.

Haha, by calling them lies you seem to have assumed that I am soliciting him to join YB, which I am not. I was merely providing info which he asked for in a non-biased manner.

You also seemed to have missed the part where the OP is on at 3am US time. It’s hard for YB to put together a zerg at that time when we might have 20 people on each of two maps at the most. And even if we did, there would be ample opportunity to get away from it if you wanted.

As for directing him to Millenium, only very vague info can be derived about how many people are on at a particular time. Changes in ppt could occur because one server has 5 people on and the others none.

Tiers 6 and 7 are close matchups and don’t have any zerg transfer servers driving by any time soon to ruin things. Their matchup threads seem to show a pretty fun matchup. Tier 8 is probably too empty for OP’s taste.

Waffler.1257:

I only get invites from people I kill in the JP. I just assume it will all be garbage coming out of their mouth so I never accept them. Before with the report bug it was unavoidable and I had to just put them on my ignore list.

You like to gank carebears but don’t want to listen to their stream of tears afterward? But that’s the best part…

If you join YB you’ll be in a zerg; don’t believe his lies. Read my 1st post in this thread, it’s really all you need to know.

MarMaster.6241:

Would it be possible to get the text format results in Comma-Separated-Value format? Thanks for the posts on overall results.

This is simple with sed (no server names start with a – or number):
$ sed ‘s/ \([0-9\-]\)/,\1/g’ servers.txt
Na
Sea of Sorrows,1,0,2170.607,2.453,192.514,0.968
Jade Quarry,2,0,2141.913,-15.84,192.635,0.968
Blackgate,3,0,2076.316,14.031,194.977,0.968
Sanctum of Rall,4,1,1981.734,80.835,194.308,0.971
Stormbluff Isle,5,-1,1936.251,-110.372,197.8,0.975
Tarnished Coast,6,0,1903.448,26.284,195.56,0.968
Crystal Desert,7,0,1824.204,46.569,191.028,0.968
Fort Aspenwood,8,1,1743.324,11.411,191.051,0.967
Dragonbrand,9,1,1738.72,51.235,192.937,0.97
Isle of Janthir,10,-2,1697.177,-58.001,191.013,0.969
Maguuma,11,2,1671.007,90.458,203.702,0.974
Yak’s Bend,12,0,1598.58,-9.327,191.673,0.968
Ehmry Bay,13,-2,1570.719,-41.187,191.637,0.968
Kaineng,14,3,1448.679,179.929,196.729,0.999
Devona’s Rest,15,0,1341.406,-15.201,199.345,0.972
Borlis Pass,16,-2,1338.76,-69.534,196.88,0.972
Anvil Rock,17,-1,1210.981,-84.073,192.92,0.972
Northern Shiverpeaks,18,0,1158.548,-86.372,193.119,0.973
Darkhaven,19,0,1117.969,-114.786,207.65,0.981
Gate of Madness,20,0,1053.134,10.566,201.649,0.977
Henge of Denravi,21,0,1035.972,102.782,205.689,0.978
Sorrow’s Furnace,22,0,793.338,-30.339,208.643,0.982
Ferguson’s Crossing,23,0,744.723,36.845,201.431,0.973
Eredon Terrace,24,0,649.686,-10.392,203.905,0.975

Eu
Seafarer’s Rest,1,1,2067.89,31.387,192.559,0.968
Vizunah Square,2,-1,2009.483,-68.468,194.096,0.972
Desolation,3,0,1980.737,36.709,194.699,0.97
Elona Reach,4,0,1928.548,21.383,193.939,0.97
Kodash,5,1,1812.028,21.27,193.124,0.968
Arborstone,6,-1,1795.621,-42.035,192.069,0.969
Baruch Bay,7,1,1780.714,72.74,191.504,0.97
Riverside,8,1,1747.443,97.297,192.723,0.972
Piken Square,9,1,1690.435,85.596,190.644,0.971
Jade Sea,10,3,1618.89,51.319,190.793,0.968
Blacktide,11,-4,1569.084,-171.902,193.174,0.987
Augury Rock,12,-1,1558.324,-19.116,190.323,0.967
Gandara,13,-1,1502.569,-66.262,190.429,0.969
Aurora Glade,14,0,1500.71,-20.323,190.436,0.967
Dzagonur,15,3,1494.124,70.959,192.662,0.972
Abaddon’s Mouth,16,-1,1488.507,-30.805,190.441,0.967
Drakkar Lake,17,0,1463.622,-16.356,191.191,0.967
Miller’s Sound,18,-2,1462.112,-53.919,192.092,0.969
Far Shiverpeaks,19,2,1397.905,51.141,191.621,0.969
Fort Ranik,20,-1,1385.141,-33.076,191.988,0.968
Underworld,21,-1,1335.239,-18.152,191.556,0.967
Gunnar’s Hold,22,0,1261.515,44.137,195.714,0.97
Ring of Fire,23,0,1197.402,-6.134,196.451,0.97
Whiteside Ridge,24,0,1083.457,-39.862,199.974,0.973
Ruins of Surmia,25,0,990.063,34.593,223.923,0.98
Vabbi,26,1,769.559,140.941,223.286,0.985
Fissure of Woe,27,-1,604.836,-154.231,212.175,0.984

Only a WvW player has 2 million karma and 2 silver.

I’m going to be reincarnated as a cow

Basically you need more Amn El Ith Tir Sol.

http://mos.millenium.org/matchups#NA

Pick something in Tier 6 or 7.

junglizm.5843:

My guild is 10 people, how man is GOON?

Man enough to not hop servers after a few losing weeks.