Sayit, if running with 5 guys every night and kiting Zergs around is what you call fun, then youre right, this game is perfect for you. We like playing players as good if not better than us. Not ONLY being able to push the envelope due to a ridiculous discrepancy in numbers.
Yet you’re playing in tiers where the average player can barely kill a mob let alone another player. I got tired of so many battles that went like the link below that I had to transfer back to T3 because T6 was just stupidly poor:
Lol in game gold can be made in a week. Weak excuse buddy. Unless you were a Daoc real 8 manner , actually xfer an fight daily with the same guys, focus on group makeup and player builds, then I don’t believe your anywhere close to our level.
Wait… you actually think about your group composition? Sorry that’s way too much for me I just rolled mesmer and press GS1. Occasionally I press portal button to move golem a place. Sorry you can have your uber roamer trophy I had no idea what I was up against.
Dude you send us (in t8 btw so be apauld at this) those guilds kitten PYRO, WaR, iLL)‘s best players and I guarantee you we give them a run for all your kitten talking ego money and probably beat them. Please don’t try and tell us that zergers will ever beat elitist hardcore small man players open field with less than 10.
I think the only accurate word in that paragraph was probably “elitist”. How about you pay for a 5 man to transfer there and back and then I’ll talk about bringing 4 others with me.
Here is my question to you who seems to think he can be “napolian” via gw2 wvw….. Why when my guild shows up (or other 5 mans like us) and chunk off 10-15 of your epic 50 man, do they ALWAYS lose that fight? If our 5 man separates 10-15 of your lemmings/deciples from the “Zerg” why do they lose when forced to open field fight?
Probably because you’ve been playing in the bucket tiers this time and you think that everyone plays like an autoattacking bad.
No… we’re winning because we have people who log on every day to go to WvW and our participation doesn’t take a huge hit after the weekend is over. From the score trends the past few weeks, that’s kinda a no-brainer.
It’s sad to say but our reset participation isn’t as big as everyone thinks. Even during the NA prime time we had only enough to man 3 BLs ( nobody on Yaks BL at all ) and were solidly behind because of this during prime time. I think people confuse our guilds putting in more effort on reset with ‘increased participation’. The truth is guilds like FBA that held mags keep for 20+ hours with 10 people can’t do that during the weekdays. Similarly the NA guilds that stayed up late on reset to paint the map can’t do that every night.
I wish we had big reset participation. Unfortunately its just our remaining guilds putting in extraordinary effort when they can afford to (i.e. at the weekends but not during weekdays).
You had the other servers outmanned on every BL throughout SEA time and had your PPT swing over +600. No matter how you cut it, that’s big compared to the other servers.
I’m in tier 3 and I’ve hopped down to FC and DR at different points to get a change of pace. The meta and average player skill in the lower tiers seemed ridiculously far behind the upper tiers. I lost count of how many terrible glass d/d thieves I killed. Glass guardians. Glass everything. It was bad enough that I’d get mad if I lost a 1v3 because I honestly expected to win every one.
I had to go back to Tier 3 after a week each time because a lot more of the players there actually have a clue of what they are doing.
T3 is so screwed up I wish maguuma would take first and it was a more even match up. I just like maguuma. :P
We took first last week, and likely will this week. Kain loses a lot of people after the weekend for some reason.
We didn’t lose ppl. We just have very few Europeon players. That’s by far our weakest time zone. In the weekends we can play overtime to cover it. But in the weekdays everyone got work and school so we lost everything to pvdoor. That’s costing us a lot of points. >_>
No worries though. The fights are fun and that’s good enough for me.
That’s pretty much the definition of losing people, isn’t it? Your NA prime time isn’t as strong as it is on the weekends. Work and school aren’t really a complete story for that, it’s not as if we don’t all have similar situations.
When we do have people we always wins. That’s all we care about at this point. That final score has much more to do with our European coverage, which is out of our control so why worry?
Everyone wins when they have more people, though. That’s mostly what WvW is about. I think Mag only cares because there’s about 8 hours of dead air for us during the day and it gets quite boring!
Honestly, if this matchup was decided by number of WvW’ers it would have been mag 1st, yak 2nd , kain 3rd from day 1
Luckily it isnt.
Obviously right? Surely you are winning with your lesser #’s and superiorz skillz. !!!!
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Let’s just ignore the first night of the matchup where KN had YB and Mag outmanned on all 4 BLs at once. It’s those T2 skills with their T4 coverage.
One of the most intense fights I’ve ever had over a supply camp, unedited. Unfortunately I didn’t think it would be that interesting, so I only started recording a few minutes in. Actually, I think most of our intense fights were over supply camps on reset night. Probably want to watch this on 1.5x or something if you’re interested, hope the Kaineng involved had fun
So far I have no respect for [DER~P] and [PYRO]. Constantly hoping maps to take on easy opponents, cry in publicity, and bad-mouthing others.
I hope this isn’t most of the Mag’s WvW population.
About 95% of threads are made in Mag. Giving bad impressions almost everywhere FYI.
It’s true. I only see DORP win against uplevels and when they outnumber the opponent more than 5:1. They are all terrible players and will never match up to the quality of top tier guilds like [CL].
There is a player named Colhearth kitten on Kaineng realm that gives info on Kaineng positions to kitten guild on Magumma. He turns on his commanders tag and places himself in the Magumma Zerg position to lure unsuspecting PUGs to get gangbang. He keeps typing in fake information on Kaineng Map Chat.
How desperate you are … this is Tier 3 and you need to play dirty ? Be thankful that Kaineng is helping you keep your score close or u jump into Tier 2 and get demolished. I was in CoF path 1 with some outstanding board warriors in this thread from Magumma and they could not beat the portion with the flaming rolling balls and there was no mesmer. They then used some “magic” to teleport from the start to end to clear that portion.
If you guys want to have a good time, learn to play fair without all these dirty tricks. You come whine about other realm zergs and put them down when you are obviously are the type of players that are so desperate to win that you use any means. Magumma reputation is in tatters, Kaineng tend to fight Yak’s Bend as they prove to be better sports and dun whine or cheat as much.
I also noticed that the seige operators of Magumma tend to be unerring accurate in range and position. Either you got superb skills or have running some program.
You realize he transferred to Kaineng to roam with a friend he spvps with. Last week he was listening to our channel and ended up following us to the towers we went to and building a superior arrow cart in them. In other words, he trolls everyone, he’s Colhearth the Brave. Deal with it.
Lol if you think KN will hold their lead throughout the week. They are a kittening ghost town in everything but SEA primetime throughout the weekdays. The same thing happened last week and Mag won by the end.
Anyway, I hope you all enjoy the skill lag and DC-fest in Tier 2. Remember, you created this yourself by dragging more guilds into your servers. I feel bad for FA since they’re getting the crap end of 2 other servers’ bandwagons.
Dude I totally agree. I cannot stand the constant skill delay and lag.. I die to bad players because I press buttons and nothing gets casted and I get rubberbanded into a death machine.. How Tier 3 with lag/delay/dc?
Tier 3 gets some skill lag in NA primetime when servers start bringing 70+ onto a BL, but I usually don’t see it for more than about 15-30 minutes at a time before groups disperse enough where it isn’t a problem. Yaks is bad about zergstacking an entire server in one spot that seems to cause it. Kaineng does it on the weekend but doesn’t have the numbers to the rest of the week.
There’s kind of a tradeoff, Tier 3 is more coverage gaps but less skill lag it looks like. Kaineng rolls through everything in SEA but is a ghost town the rest of the time. Yaks and Mag seem to have some random but consistent times where one has lot more coverage than the other as well.
Lol if you think KN will hold their lead throughout the week. They are a kittening ghost town in everything but SEA primetime throughout the weekdays. The same thing happened last week and Mag won by the end.
Anyway, I hope you all enjoy the skill lag and DC-fest in Tier 2. Remember, you created this yourself by dragging more guilds into your servers. I feel bad for FA since they’re getting the crap end of 2 other servers’ bandwagons.
gj at wk on Kain BL. Glad to see you’ve learned to stop getting demolished by us open field by building a million arrow carts.
edit: looooooooool. Next we meet you open field between sw camp and sw tower, you instantly 180 and build an arrow cart in the camp and get wiped while stacked on it. This new game meta is kittening idiotic.
That’s a pretty recent development and only through the concerted effort from a few people. Though most of the time the largest channel I see is the karma train channel.
Theres a…karma train channel now? EBG the most full channel? Times they are a changin’.
You’re a bit behind. Just go back to TERA and play your animemancer
Spend 50+ gold gearing a character to actually be able to play the game?
Why?
Spend 5 silver( I have no idea how much AC’s cost…) buy an AC, get your under leveled character out, sit on said AC and spam 1-2-3-4-5 (again , I have never used one, so I have no idea what buttons do what..but I assume theres 5 skills?)
Well done ANET.
but hey, I guess people are finally buying more treb blueprints so its a win for you guys right? more gold…
Thanks.
Please give us an arena to 20v20 in if this ridiculously absurd update is not going to be patched out.
Condition damage affects arrow cart bleeds. Time to buy full carrion!
Oh I see what I didn’t understand, zerker gear is the best choice for a condition based class. You are such a good player you can kill zergs by yourself and guardian is a really bad support class in large groups. Yeah my tiny little brain, I must try to broaden my experience so I can fully understand your genius.
Arguing against someone who thinks a zerker necro without spectral walk is a viable roaming spec is kind of hopeless to be honest.
I’m a bit surprised at how underrated the shortbow Thief seems to be. Having the ability to lay down multiple poison fields with Choking Gas, while also being able to shot over obstacles or walls with Cluster Bomb, is absolutely priceless. Next to that the auto-attack, although severely nerfed now, is able to hit three targets.
The Thief is also able to stealth golems or dolyaks for over 30 seconds, they are experts at taking out stranglers in a zerg, they can providing pressure by shadow stepping into a group and cause mayhem, and they are still the fastest profession in the game which makes them superior scouts.
Venom share shortbow thief + Staff Ele with water fields.
8th place necro for small roaming? Hahaha, Zastari I should show you mine in full zerk.
Ranger isn’t in 8th place on that second list. Must be a typo.
You’ve never dueled a competent ranger with some tpvp experience apparently.
Wrong forum mate, take the tpvp talk where it’s relevant. Things are different in wvw they aren’t comparable.
Yes they are. Trap rangers with a good enough amount of cond + healing are extremely tough fights in 1v1 up to 5 man groups, and they have a good amount of area denial as well.
Necro needs 5+ to shine? Really? I think YOU need to L2P and try different builds with one. I can solo run with a necro all day long sir, can even well bomb multiple guardians down in a matter of seconds. Boon strip/Boon conversion + over 10k well dmg+ fear/locks + 6k dagger crits = death. See the worst part about this is, my main isn’t even a mesmer yet I’m still defending the cause because it’s THAT bad.
You can solo roam but you don’t have a stunbreaker / teleport. Right. Enjoy being hard-countered. Pan your camera more and pop stability when you see a thief basilisk venom and stealth. If they get the jump on you then you already messed up with your build.
My mesmer is fine. It’s harder and I think the nerf is overkill, but I still doubt I’ll ever lose a 1v1.
Um.. Have you even played a necro before? We have speed boost/stun breaker/ semi teleport all in the same skill. L2p.
Um.. Have you even played a necro before? We have speed boost/stun breaker/ semi teleport all in the same skill. L2p.When a thief gets ready for a gank hit f1. Game over gc thief.
Apparently this guy hasn’t which I was responding to:
… A good thief can easily down a single target with 20k+ hp with backstab and keeping them stun locked within seconds, I have witnessed it on both ends of the stick. Learn how to play before commenting.
No, they can’t. Learn math before commenting because PRE Mug nerf their maximum output on the standard d/p spike rotation was ~24k, post nerf its not even remotely close to that (its roughly 10k less damage).
Also: What are cantrips? Use them.
Well on one of my characters I have witnessed this after the nerf. Thief out of stealth backstabs then stunlocked me, killed me and disappeared in about 2-3 seconds when I had over 20k hp. And I have seen the same when thief was on my team. So maybe you should learn to play aswell? Maybe only good thieves can pull it off I don’t know.
You got stunlocked and sat there for 2-3 seconds eating the damage without doing anything? Sounds like l2p problems to me.
Umm sat there? If you are stunlocked/immobilized and a necro you cant teleport/stealth away unless you are god which you just might be?
Have fun, I play with a build that has as much stealth as a thief, multiple condition clears, and the ability to drop out 16k bursts with immobilize. If you’re rampager setup you’ll probably get dropped before you can death shroud.
Necro needs 5+ to shine? Really? I think YOU need to L2P and try different builds with one. I can solo run with a necro all day long sir, can even well bomb multiple guardians down in a matter of seconds. Boon strip/Boon conversion + over 10k well dmg+ fear/locks + 6k dagger crits = death. See the worst part about this is, my main isn’t even a mesmer yet I’m still defending the cause because it’s THAT bad.
You can solo roam but you don’t have a stunbreaker / teleport. Right. Enjoy being hard-countered. Pan your camera more and pop stability when you see a thief basilisk venom and stealth. If they get the jump on you then you already messed up with your build.
My mesmer is fine. It’s harder and I think the nerf is overkill, but I still doubt I’ll ever lose a 1v1.
… A good thief can easily down a single target with 20k+ hp with backstab and keeping them stun locked within seconds, I have witnessed it on both ends of the stick. Learn how to play before commenting.
No, they can’t. Learn math before commenting because PRE Mug nerf their maximum output on the standard d/p spike rotation was ~24k, post nerf its not even remotely close to that (its roughly 10k less damage).
Also: What are cantrips? Use them.
Well on one of my characters I have witnessed this after the nerf. Thief out of stealth backstabs then stunlocked me, killed me and disappeared in about 2-3 seconds when I had over 20k hp. And I have seen the same when thief was on my team. So maybe you should learn to play aswell? Maybe only good thieves can pull it off I don’t know.
You got stunlocked and sat there for 2-3 seconds eating the damage without doing anything? Sounds like l2p problems to me.
Umm sat there? If you are stunlocked/immobilized and a necro you cant teleport/stealth away unless you are god which you just might be?
So you’re solo roaming with a class that basically requires groups of 5+ to shine? Still l2p problem.
A proper fix to confusion really has nothing to do with cutting down the damage from where it was. It should be set to not proc on damage-traited dodgerolls, heals, and autoattacks.
I will thanks, unless I see massive ele participation rates drop(which I haven’t) Mesmer is a different matter, apparently 60-80% of wvw mesmers were running a confusion based build…
Confusion did enough damage that it supplemented any build no matter what you ran. I’m definitely noticing that it’s much harder to finish people in my zerker shatter build, but it’s added a new challenge and I’ve had to be more careful with my skill usage.
… A good thief can easily down a single target with 20k+ hp with backstab and keeping them stun locked within seconds, I have witnessed it on both ends of the stick. Learn how to play before commenting.
No, they can’t. Learn math before commenting because PRE Mug nerf their maximum output on the standard d/p spike rotation was ~24k, post nerf its not even remotely close to that (its roughly 10k less damage).
Also: What are cantrips? Use them.
Well on one of my characters I have witnessed this after the nerf. Thief out of stealth backstabs then stunlocked me, killed me and disappeared in about 2-3 seconds when I had over 20k hp. And I have seen the same when thief was on my team. So maybe you should learn to play aswell? Maybe only good thieves can pull it off I don’t know.
You got stunlocked and sat there for 2-3 seconds eating the damage without doing anything? Sounds like l2p problems to me.
I love the change of arrowcarts, now make catapults able to be usable outside of AC-range again
Buff trebs and catas 80 % now and give them 33% more range like ACs.Yup that willmake things even.
I agree with you but now map will be getting too small. Scale up the map of about 33%. :P
Don’t forget to increase range on all weapons by 33% and make all structures 33% higher as well.
Also buff all armor and damage reduction by 80% as well as all player damage to compensate for that and healing and vitality as well of course.
Now the game is balanced again and no need to nerf Arrowcarts.
Just buff everything else in the game as well.
Arrow carts are under-powered. Imagine a real-life situation: when you’re hit by three arrows, two in the chest, one in the knee, you’ll have little chance to survive.
Now, you got a whole arrow-shower, and you’re still alive. So I recommend to empower those ant-toys. And, if were are already here, I also hate when someone heals up magically in just a second’s time.
Imagine a real-life situation, some magician starts hurling a bunch of firey meteors down on ya head. You’re bricked in the noggin by one, you’ll have little chance to survive.
) and were solidly behind because of this during prime time. I think people confuse our guilds putting in more effort on reset with ‘increased participation’. The truth is guilds like FBA that held mags keep for 20+ hours with 10 people can’t do that during the weekdays. Similarly the NA guilds that stayed up late on reset to paint the map can’t do that every night.
.Yup that willmake things even.