Guild Wars 2

SundayTrash.9562:

All I see projectile spam. what happen to the head bashing, blood quirting close range combat.

Sory did you not see thr 50 plus zergball rushing through you comprising of 75% guardians and warriors mashing their ‘1’ melee skill?

greyblue.4962:

Wait wait. Let me get this right. You wanted to nerf an entire class that was generally worse then yours just because one of your skills got nerfed?

To be fair, roughly 1/2 of Mesmer skills cause confusion. We have a weapon that does nothing but that. We have a class mechanic that does nothing but that. Equivalent impact to other classes would be:

1. For rangers, pets no longer do damage.
2. For necromancers, bleed and poison now do 50% damage.

Would anyone actually notice if ranger pets did 0 damage? You really want to compare an op’d mechanic with the most godawful pet execution I’ve ever seen in any mmo?

Mesmers need to stop whining so much.

You have no case to state.

Overpowered ability being adjusted. Not the first, won’t be the last. Deal with it.

lordkrall.7241:

tagnut.8621:

No they just have to move 2 steps whilst their stealth heals them and removes conditions – but thats kind of hard for teif players to do. Cos thats why they got the 3s reinstated, as most thief players find it hard to count to 4 before mashing their many stealth options.

True, if they face someone that is stupid and just attacks the spot where the thief turned invisible.
Most players are smart enough to not do that though.

So Mr thief take an extra step before unleashing another massive burst and dropping his target to the floor. Counting to 3 is hard.

Sounds fair enough, but it doesn’t prevent confusion from being overpowered and recieving a much needed nerf.

It needed a nerf. Its finally getting one. Find something else to cry about.

No they just have to move 2 steps whilst their stealth heals them and removes conditions – but thats kind of hard for teif players to do. Cos thats why they got the 3s reinstated, as most thief players find it hard to count to 4 before mashing their many stealth options.

Seriously is someone blowing the thief dev on a regular basis? So they get to spend 50% of the time invisible and immune to all damage whilst pumping out insane dps? Really? Really? 4s revealed reverted to 3s? Should be 10s min.

Consider the absence of players from SFR in T1 a protest. Vizz’ll love it tho – more doors to fight. never happier than when its just doors.

Really?

Mesmer has been top 3 since launch and spent many moons in the overpowered camp. You want to feel nerfed? Play a ranger.

Svarty.8019:

We have witnessed the ladder system even out to some degree since the end of free transfers. Ignoring the problems in the top and bottom tiers, the ladder started to work as intended, but a problem has occurred.

Now that the economy has given rise to the phenomenon of people feeling wealthier, whole-guild transfers are MUCH more viable and as we have seen recently, many guilds are moving to bandwagon servers, surfing them up the tiers and then transfering to another bandwagon server. This is a problem because when guilds move wholesale from one server to another the bias swings way out of whack on both the tier they leave and the tier they join – they then disrupt all the tiers they run through on their way up.

To address the bandwagon problem, Arenanet need to take action. It seems quite clear that financial disincentives are not enough and that Arenanet need to impose a limit to the number of transfers a player may make. I would suggest something like one transfer per six months.

TL;DR

• people are richer,
• transfers are effectively cheaper,
• bandwagoners are riding low-ranking servers up the ladder then repeating the feat,
• financial disincentive doesn’t work as intended,
• there should be a limit to transfers per year.

There is an even simpler solution.

Place Vizunah in an empty tier all on its own – they won’t mind, they’d love an empty tier with just endless doors to beat on and no mean players to chase them back to their keeps and 3000 arrow carts.

Waffler.1257:

tagnut.8621:

Moraax.9042:

This isn’t a rant or anything, just curious about this.

I was defending Dawn’s Eyre with a ballista, shooting the invaders at the gate (I’m sure you know the location I’m talking about if you wvw much), and a ranger was able to shoot the ballista from on the ground with bow shots. Just straight shots, not area effects ones. I’ve never seen that before.

Did they give rangers a trait to spec for that increases bow range? Or is there a food/buff that increases range? It would have to be more than a range of 1,500.

5% range increase at 30 points. Bad siege placement is bad siege placement.

Pretty sure it increases longbow range from 1200 to 1500, if you think that’s 5% more power to you.

My bad – the trait also increases longbow damage by 5%.

Moraax.9042:

This isn’t a rant or anything, just curious about this.

I was defending Dawn’s Eyre with a ballista, shooting the invaders at the gate (I’m sure you know the location I’m talking about if you wvw much), and a ranger was able to shoot the ballista from on the ground with bow shots. Just straight shots, not area effects ones. I’ve never seen that before.

Did they give rangers a trait to spec for that increases bow range? Or is there a food/buff that increases range? It would have to be more than a range of 1,500.

5% range increase at 30 points. Bad siege placement is bad siege placement.

graverr.6473:

Ilirya Shan.5489:

Good Lord I’ve too many golden medals and no more space around my neck. Thank you Deso and SFR anyway:)

PVDoor medals are always the best

Be fair some of those doors have quite nasty splinters – your average frogzombie could get seriously injured.

Angelwood.7652:

Oh let the poor sod be, i know he’s wrong, you know he’s wrong, we all know he’s wrong. If screaming nonsense on about our servers makes him happy, i say let him

Then if you’re so good why are you last.

Cos that’s how it works in the real world – the best teams finish last, the best runners finish last etc.

Ivano.2604:

tagnut.8621:

(a) its T9 = who gives a kitten
(b) Vabbi and FOW are the worst of the worst of the worst – it doesn’t matter who goes in there with them they’ll lose hard. A small slice of dutch cheese would steamroll them.

Stagnut i would bet my 1 copper coin you were in FoW or Vabbi when this game has launched :p

Your words is pure flaming and obviously something, somehwere, must still burning..

Stay in your higher tier and please refrain yourself to dictate this nonsense.
We in FoW don t want a zerg vs zerg 10 fps rate – low skills involved combat mechanincs

You enjoy where you are and leave other to do the same, and while you are there eat that dutch cheese you are so proud of and leave the real “thing” to us, thanks :p

Ina competitive environment theres a reason vabbi is at the bottom. Clue – its not because you’re good.

It beggers belief that mmo designers continue to make the same class design mistakes over and over.

The invisible class should not have insane damage levels. It is that simple. No class in any mmo should be able to drop out of invisibility and 2s kill any other class. thats really bad design yet its still perpetuated.

So yeah OP is right – thieves are silly overpowered and ANET are still skirting round it.

if you’re worried about wxp then you’re doing it wrong.

S’far as i’m concerned you can turn it off – virtually pointless obsessing over it.

Kuull.3147:

Well, first off I’m on Fissure of Woe. To all the people that’re giving negative comments such as “oh, we’re bad, so bad” etc – is just plain ignorant. Yes, there’s bad players. You can’t say there isn’t any in your servers, now can you?

The point of the thread is. Vabbi + Fissure of Woe are outnumbered by a couple of hundred. These two servers are on “medium” population. The others are on very high. I’m not sure of how much difference there is in number. But you can definitely see it in WvW.
So you’re saying the whole server is bad just because the other server outnumbers you 5 to 1, hell even 10 to 1. Which seems not that exaggerated.

Within the first hour when the restart occurred – they already had the whole place taken over… Now you’re telling me that we’re just plain bad? Go write such absurd kitten somewhere else.

Many people know that WvW is unbalanced at this moment, and always was. But something need to be done about it. If we can provide valid and decent suggestions. Which really could change the balance of WvW is at this very moment. Why not do so?

Vabbi and FoW were bad before they were outmanned. There’s a reason they’re in T9.

Now they’re bad and outmanned. There’s a reason awful players in higher tiers are told to go back to Vabbi…..

Forestgreen.7981:

The ranks for WvW needs to be account bound because at the moment, I feel pigeoned holed into 1 character otherwise I’ll never get a higher rank. At the moment you need 600 ranks to max out everything most likely another 100+ for the upcoming patch. Also you can’t even redo the points you invested.

A-net needs to make make it like sPvP ranks where it’s shared among all characters and allow resets to points allocations.

Really – wxp makes zero difference to your character. Zero.

KabaL.6217:

If you want to destroy blobs:

• Remove teleports on WvW Maps.
• Death => 20sec timer => spawn at basecamp
• 1 min delay between 2 WvW maps (= on EB, if you want to go on your home map, there is a one minute timer)

I see nothing here that has any effect on large scale grouping.

As for wxp being the driver to ‘blob’ thats frankly a foolish thought. WXP has next to zero benefit – you gain more benefit spending a couple of silver on food from the AH.

And minus culling I don’t mind the blob – 3 way clashes of 100s of people are quite fun – just like to see defensive structures be a little more robust and siege be a little more varied.

Pain.3756:

I log in this morning, DB to their credit have great numbers and are owning every one:

DB 565
YB 85
MA 45

Overall score:

DB 86528
YB 35640
MA 30855

I believe WvW in this game for a majority of the tiers is in trouble. I’ll exclude Tier 1/2 from this as they may have great numbers 24×7.

Maybe it’s too hard to fix the balance issues given the game design.

It’s not fun.

Is anyone looking at fixing these population imbalances or is this the game?

-g

How do you propose they ‘fix’ population imbalance? they can’t magic up players from nowhere.

Each borderland is capped, same number of players allowed in on each side.

Asko.4120:

tagnut.8621:

(a) its T9 = who gives a kitten
(b) Vabbi and FOW are the worst of the worst of the worst – it doesn’t matter who goes in there with them they’ll lose hard. A small slice of dutch cheese would steamroll them.

and this is why the servers need to be merged asap so that people on the mentioned weak servers could have fun in wvw.

And 26 divides into 3s so well……

(a) its T9 = who gives a kitten
(b) Vabbi and FOW are the worst of the worst of the worst – it doesn’t matter who goes in there with them they’ll lose hard. A small slice of dutch cheese would steamroll them.

somsom.5201:

This is a STUPID STUPID move and will lead to a HUGE loss of members. Please remove the statement “this benefits everyone” from the login screen, as this benefits pretty much ONLY EU/Oceanics. PST is hit hardest, then CST and then EST; pretty much all of NA is going to take a huge hit. People are either still at work(PST), just getting off work(CST/EST), or starting to eat dinner(EST). Good luck getting participation from the major guilds(those that SUPPORT your WvW) with this move.

T1 especially is going to be hit hard by this, although one of the servers won’t be hit as hard(JQ). My guild is looking at losing probably 30-40% of our numbers on reset night at least for the first 3-4 hrs(assuming a 2hr q). That basically cuts our playtime on reset by more than 60%(we will be fielding way less numbers and probably have people not staying on as long due to q times).

Oh well, this is what you get when you don’t properly plan things before you create them.

Benefits ONLY Eu oceanics?

EU has more servers than US. Add to that the Oceanics and the ‘only’ benefited people are in the majority….

Mizhas.8536:

Centrix.4065:

I personally wouldn’t care. I just told you what happened, u said you didn’t understand so I just said what I think he meant. You don’t have to feel attacked everytime someone posts about you.

don’t we? really? Read below.

tagnut.8621:

Piken needs to stop being so slapdash if a server as truly awful as BB think they’re t2/1 quality……

Funny.

Well, at least BB is not afraid of challenges.
BTW since when T1 or T2 mean to be a high quality server? Its all about numbers and timezones.
SFR proved that high skilled server can get to T1 and win.
Piken is a T3 server atm. Sry if i don’t take seriously your insults.

I agree with you – Piken is a T3 server. They’re too slapdash and disorganised to be anything more.

loseros.5912:

tagnut.8621:

loseros.5912:

Devitz.2136:

I didn’t see so many whining about RG, personally it’s normal for me to change a server when you don’t have fun on other anymore and this is a COMPUTER GAME and it has to give you FUN after a long day of studing/working/whatever. Ofc I can understand their playstyle and tbh it’s always great chance to learn something when chasing them ^^

Btw. what happened to AR? You guys seem to be … exhausted? lost any guild or just want to drop a tier?

We recieved reinforcements actually. Directly from T1. BuLL came back to their home server, which i personally think they shouldn’t have left… and i think the same for the rest of guilds that are still out there… we could recover the nightcapping we had and be back in T2 easily i think. We just jeed morning coverage to be a T1-T2 bouncing server IMO. Just cause our night crew is too powerfull.

Piken needs to stop being so slapdash if a server as truly awful as BB think they’re t2/1 quality……

I did say so if we had a morning crew + the guilds that left, back. We’ve already been in T2 5th in rank thanks to nightcapping, and we recovered some of the nightcapping we had in the past. At least 4 guilds went to T1…

BB have never been good enough to sustain T2. T4-5 server.

loseros.5912:

Devitz.2136:

I didn’t see so many whining about RG, personally it’s normal for me to change a server when you don’t have fun on other anymore and this is a COMPUTER GAME and it has to give you FUN after a long day of studing/working/whatever. Ofc I can understand their playstyle and tbh it’s always great chance to learn something when chasing them ^^

Btw. what happened to AR? You guys seem to be … exhausted? lost any guild or just want to drop a tier?

We recieved reinforcements actually. Directly from T1. BuLL came back to their home server, which i personally think they shouldn’t have left… and i think the same for the rest of guilds that are still out there… we could recover the nightcapping we had and be back in T2 easily i think. We just jeed morning coverage to be a T1-T2 bouncing server IMO. Just cause our night crew is too powerfull.

Piken needs to stop being so slapdash if a server as truly awful as BB think they’re t2/1 quality……

salluks.6017:

tagnut.8621:

They’re not PUGs with a guild tag? Oh dear…..

someone got thier kitten wupped badly by iron it looks like.

why dont u guys go back to capping camps at ticks , as thats what u do to win…rather than openly fight against “pugs” of deso.

Seems i hit a little too close to the mark.

I’m sure you’re not a PUG with a tag – its an easy mistake to make.

They’re not PUGs with a guild tag? Oh dear…..

Shifty.4985:

tagnut.8621:

Anyone want to go through Basic Tactics 101 with Des – cos they’re doing some might strange things this week (slight obsession with SFR BL????)

each guild in our server is allocated a bl, IRON is on sfr this week

But isn’t that most of your server? IRONs like la Main Noire isn’t it – you just have to be able to type ‘invite pls’ and you’re in?

Anyone want to go through Basic Tactics 101 with Des – cos they’re doing some might strange things this week (slight obsession with SFR BL????)

Overly complicated and unnecessary.

3 core solutions:

1. Reduce WXP gain – 60 wxp if you kill someoe 1v1 and 60 wxp gain if you kill someone 100v1? Share the pool – will soon encourage smaller group and solo roamers (well for those who didn’t work out wxp was pointless within 5 minutes of live)

2. Offensive is far greater than defense right now – increase the values of defensive structures (gates/doors etc). Blobs cannot drop towers and keeps in seconds and gives defense a chance to defend – thereby returning us to the pre patch tactical position of feints, multiple strikes, ranged bombardments etc.

3. Upgrade times too slow – a megablob can keep retaking a zeroed structure over and over before it has a chance to become defensible.

No.

More nerfs to come please

swinsk.6410:

Did you even think of the repercussions of this change before you made it? I’m starting thing what happened was that after seeing the thief communities reaction you realized that was a bad idea but you still had to appease the noobs and at the last minute you did this without thinking how it would affect the class.

I don’t care what you do as long as you do something ANet. Playing my thief is frustrating now. It’s not as fun anymore. It’s kind of a pain in the kitten.

We need our stealth time to match our auto-attack chain!

I always thought that’s why you chose 3s attack time because with every weapon set it was very easy to determine when to stealth. Finish you auto-chain stealth.

Now, it feels wierd because stealth falls in the middle of attacks and it feels so stupid and clunky to play a thief right now.

Increase attack speed and damage to scale up to compensate for the 4s change for all auto-chains on thief.
Add in 4th auto-attack in the chain to cover the 4s change.
Simply revert to 3s revealed, culling was enough of a fix to thieves in wvw and spvp didn’t have a problem with stealthing imo.

I’m going to keep posting about this until I get a response from ANet. I really think this needs to be addressed ASAP for the good of the class.

(a) class needs a lot more nerfs first – wait for them

(b) slow the chain down from 3s to 4s – job done.

Its quite simple. Thieves were insanely overpowered at launch and now they’re just severely overpowered.

WxP ranks are utterly pointless – why all the fuss.

Yeeees we keep hearing this unsubstantiated claim whilst seeing hordes of lil red IRON tags running past in massive numbers.

Whats the wordI’m looking for here….Excuses? Kittenpoopy? Help me out.

Yawn – we kicked Viz’s kitten as medium pop. We kicked des’ kitten as medium pop.

Don’t forget your alarm clock.

AshinDreidon.3861:

Are you saying you want the amulet/jewel system? I would totally love that as I spend most of my time in wvw/pvp but have to do pve to get equipment for wvw… I know people like using their pve gear in wvw though, so I’m sure most won’t go for it.

More importantly I’d love for pvp skill balances to roll over to wvw…

How do you have to pve for wvw equipment??

You of course levelled 2 crafting professions as you levelled up right? Cause i’m sure that was worth around 3-4 levels of exp for me – that meant I hit 80 with a full set of exotic jewellry and weapons. I then used invader gear – yes back in the old days – as I’d saved up karma from just levelling. This i replaced with exotics and runes from the ah bought with gold from wvw as i gained it.

I didn’t pve for any of my gear – it really wasn’t hard to get and took no time at all.

A 90+ vizblob on EB is considered a small vizblob.

Oeps Rolls Necro.2594:

Ohliufff.8160:

getting in after 2,3 hours of Q

The funny thing is. We got 2 BL without qeue lol.

But i dont think your randoms are having a nice evening of wvw on SFR BL.
Its a slaugther tbh.

Part of me thinks good get rid of the freebien00bs.

part of me questions desolations constant claim that they’re underpopulated and don’t blob…..

Guess we’ll see 60+ viz at 5am with alarm clocks and omegas at the ready to take on those doors.

So many bads I’ve seen today – been awful.

If you ahve transferred for free to SFR recently thinking you’re getting an easy ride to tot he top of the boards please kitten off back to where you came from.

lol given the numbers des are fielding lately you really can’t play the ‘waa we’re underpopulated’ card anymore…..

Its just Viz up to their old tricks – an alarm clock, massive blob and a bunch of golems.

Be fair to them – doors are challenging and their casualties are high.

The shift from a game that required some form of tactics to ‘omfg wera 150man french blobsquad’ is perhaps the most disappointing.

Atrocious class balance (rangers still utter gimps after 8 months now? Warriors and rogues still better at ranged than a ranger – jeez….)

Its a start but one can but hope there are more nerfs to come.

Beorn Saxon.4762:

Have you not seem all the wxp threads? What’s the highest rank? What lines should we level first? The wxp race is on wether you ignore it or not. Wether it’s underwhelming or not. It’s the first bone Anet has thrown our way.

wxp will make no noticable difference to anyones performance in wvw

Its like complaining that dyes are character specific.

Really – people are not using alts because they’ll miss out on being able to carry 1 more supply or take 1% less siege damage?

Really?

wx kitten o utterly underwhelming and nigh on pointless that i don’t even bother checking it. Anyone playing for wxp – well I’m not allowed to suggest they’re buffons but you join up the dots.